My 9 year old daughter needs a rifle

[LittleLebowski]

I need recommendations on a bolt action, short LOP (length of pull), threaded for suppressor .22 rifle. Open sights are fine. She’s small for her age, but needs to start training on my back acreage for a hunt with me hosted by Giving Back. Right now, I’m wondering if we will need to buy an aftermarket stock because of the LOP issue.

[Kyle Reese]

CZ 457 Scout


https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-scout/


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[Tokarev]

Bolt gun only? No option for something like an M&P 22? It'll make shooting an AR that much easier when she's 12.

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[LittleLebowski]

Bolt gun only? No option for something like an M&P 22? It'll make shooting an AR that much easier when she's 12.


I’ve got an M&P 15/22, but I’m biased towards learning on a bolt gun. She will definitely shoot ARs later.

[OlongJohnson]

CZ 457 Scout


https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-scout/

Nothing better comes to mind. If it's like the 452 and 455, the action can be installed in a standard stock as they grow.

Although, you may like this price a little better.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/856697670

Like the CZ, and unlike the Crickett, etc., it has the same action as the regular Marlin rifles. It's a single-shot. The build quality is exceptionally nice for what they cost. If you were local, I'd lend you mine to try.

[deflave]

CZ 457 Scout


https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-scout/


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Agreed.

And I'd try and get a Skinner rear for it.

[Trooper224]

https://www.keystonesportingarmsllc.com/crickett-rifles/

[Earlymonk]

Savage Rascal Rascal FV-SR, $219 MSRP
(Comes in pink too, if that's a thing.)
https://www.savagearms.com/content?p=firearms&a=product_summary&s=13834

Savage Rascal Target, $315 MSRP
https://www.savagearms.com/content?p=firearms&a=product_summary&s=13823

We have the hardwood version. Awesome little rifle. 11.25" LOP.

[jandbj]

https://www.keystonesportingarmsllc.com/crickett-rifles/


My kids learned on a chipmunk barracuda. Needed trigger work and wasn’t factory threaded, but other than that was delightful. If you skip the can, just use CCI Quiets. Manually cocking the gun kinda blows too.

https://www.keystonesportingarmsllc.com/product/chipmunk-barracuda-style/

All that said, the CZ Scout is definitely the EZ button approach and can grow with her.

[BehindBlueI's]

I'd at least take a look at the Savage Rascal. That's what I started my son on after comparing to the Cricket, though I did not have it threaded as I don't own a suppressor or have the desire to jump through the required hoops just yet. It has the Savage Accu-trigger and is actually quite nice to shoot. It's very light and suitable for small statures, as that's the target audience. Somewhat bigger but with various inserts for the stock to adjust LOP, the Ruger American Compact rimfire is pretty reasonable in the price/performance matrix.

[Earlymonk]

I'd at least take a look at the Savage Rascal. That's what I started my son on after comparing to the Cricket,...

We too shopped the Rascal vs. the Cricket and went with the Savage.

[Guerrero]

So... Barrett Light Fifty is out?

[mmc45414]

https://ruger.com/products/precisionRimfire/specSheets/8400.html

Length of Pull 12" - 15.50"?
Might be heavy, might be a lightweight barrel option out there?

[SeriousStudent]

https://www.keystonesportingarmsllc.com/crickett-rifles/

Agreed. I bought one of these for my granddaughter, and put a fixed 10x mil/mil scope on it with a spare rimfire can I had in the safe.

https://www.keystonesportingarmsllc.com/product/crickett-precision-rifle/

She loves shooting it with Paw-Paw.

[Wise_A]

Savage Rascal is 100% designed as a child's gun--everything is miniature, including the weight. However, it's really an item that's going to be disposed of once she outgrows it.

The 457 is more of a First Gun. It's much heavier than the Rascal, at 5 pounds to the Savage's 2, but it's got a much nicer stock. As she gets bigger, you can move it over to a full-size stock/chassis and it comes with a single-shot sled while still having the option of a DBM. It's also more than twice the price of the Rascal ($400 vs $170).

I think it's close. The CZ is a ton more expensive, even though I feel like the price gap is nonexistent after resale--but who's gonna resell a First Gun? You could get the Rascal in a hardwood stock for around $220, and get it most of the way to the feel of the CZ, but you're gonna end up replacing it, whereas the CZ could hang in NRL22. So the question for me would be, do I want to make a $200 now and maybe wind up getting another .22 later, or do I just want to spend more and get one gun?

[Duelist]

The CZ scout is nice.

I got my daughter a Marlin 915YN when I was in the market for such a thing. She and her baby brother both learned on it, though brother proved to not be able to comprehend iron sights as a child and so it got a nice little 4x scope mounted on it.

It’s still sitting in the back of the safe waiting for one of them to pop a sprog. I take it out to hike/casually hunt Thumpers with once in a while.

[BobM]

Would the Ruger American Rimfire compact work? It's available with a threaded muzzle and an interchangeable stock piece to lengthen the LOP as she grows.

[camsdaddy]

So... Barrett Light Fifty is out?
Is it available in youth.

My son is now nine also a smaller fella 50lbs with clothes on. I bought him a savage mark 2 in 22lr for Christmas a few years ago. It's a little big but he has shot it quite a bit. Before hunting season 2018/2019 I bought a savage 110 in 243. Both guns share the same trigger and controls. At first I wondered if I had chosen the right gun. Three deer dead where they stood that year told me it was a good choice for us. I'm thankful for the time he spent with the bolt action 22 prior. Most range days now he is shooting my 15/22 and enjoying 25 round mags.

[medmo]

For my daughter's 10th birthday I got her a Ruger 10/22 with the stock cut down to her length of pull and painted her favorite color green that she picked out. I also added a Williams peep sight. That was 20 years ago last May. She still has the rifle and still shoots it with a standard stock now. She has kept the favorite color green birthday stock and plans on using it when she has her own 10 year old. She just might need to refinish it with someone else's favorite color.

[Toonces]

I need recommendations on a bolt action, short LOP (length of pull), threaded for suppressor .22 rifle. Open sights are fine. She’s small for her age, but needs to start training on my back acreage for a hunt with me hosted by Giving Back. Right now, I’m wondering if we will need to buy an aftermarket stock because of the LOP issue.

I have two daughters, ages 10-1/2 & almost 9. They've been occasionally shooting a Savage Rascal for a couple of years now. They are just now growing into the Rascal LOP. Standing, the weight is still an issue for the younger.

I started them with a cut down 10/22, painted in a color they picked. That was WAY too heavy for them to hold while standing. Both girls are normal kids, can climb and swing on the monkey bars, but can't hold that rifle up without a struggle. Enter the Rascal. To my amazement, it was still too heavy at the start. Given that, my feeling is that the CZ 457 at 5 lbs is more for small adults than teaching kids. Obviously, the CZ is a higher class rifle, and as shooting enthusiasts we appreciate that. But since you said she is 9 and small for her age, why saddle her with an overly heavy nice rifle that she won't be able to properly stand and hold for (maybe) years?

If everything will be from a rest, whatever length they can properly hold.

[pangloss]

My 8 year old has a pink Savage Rascal. It had the shortest LOP I could find. A Cricket might be better for a 10 year old. I'm thinking about getting her a T/C Encore for when she moves up. She really really wants to kill a deer.

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[awp_101]

So... Barrett Light Fifty is out?
I was thinking a .45-120 Sharps would be the ticket. Start with BP .45-70 level loads and work up as age and skill increase.

And I had a .22LR insert for the one I had...

[BN]

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This is an old 22 I bought cheap because the stock was broken. I fixed the stock and cut a couple inches or so off the butt with a hacksaw. The kids all started on it and they still want to shoot it once in a while. It has a cocking piece that they weren't strong enough to pull back. Built in safety. ;)

[vaglocker]

Would the Ruger American Rimfire compact work? It's available with a threaded muzzle and an interchangeable stock piece to lengthen the LOP as she grows.

This. Bought one for my 10 year old and he likes it.

[Alpha Sierra]

CZ 457 Scout


https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-scout/


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YES

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[Totem Polar]

So, what ever became of this? Asking because, #1, curious and, #2, I just saw one of keystone’s "mini nagants." The last time I saw something even close that cute, it was a live puppy.

[LittleLebowski]

So, what ever became of this? Asking because, #1, curious and, #2, I just saw one of keystone’s "mini nagants." The last time I saw something even close that cute, it was a live puppy.

I just texted Hansohn Brothers about finding me something. I asked her if she wanted a pink rifle, she prefers camouflage :)

[peterb]

I just saw one of keystone’s "mini nagants." The last time I saw something even close that cute, it was a live puppy.

"It is the first of a series of “Mini Mil-Surp™” rifles, a collection of five WWI and WWII rifles scaled down for Youth shooters and chambered in America’s sweetheart, the .22lr cartridge."

This could be fun.....

[LittleLebowski]

I want this...

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/866865977

[LittleLebowski]

If you see a deal on a Ruger Precision .22, please let me know. Used is fine.

[Totem Polar]

If you see a deal on a Ruger Precision .22, please let me know. Used is fine.

I’ll let you know if I see a smoking deal on more than one...

[BN]

I want this...

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/866865977

Looks like they are about $400 and there seems to be a lot of them on Gunbroker. When I wanted something like that I found the Gunbroker dealer with the best combination of price, free shipping and no credit card fee.

[willie]

A CZ would arrive with soul and beauty to become an instant heirloom.

[LittleLebowski]

A CZ would arrive with soul and beauty to become an instant heirloom.

Agreed, but with an unworkable LOP. I’ve got her grandmother’s Winchester pump .22 for heirloom duty.

[hufnagel]

man, if you'd ask about this in about 2 years, I'd be willing to sell you my henry youth lever with extra already shortened stock.
Kid was 7 when he started using it, with the shortened stock. I just put the original one on at our last outing; he's 12.5 now.

[OlongJohnson]

You know about this site, right?

https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/736676084005

[jandbj]

If you see a deal on a Ruger Precision .22, please let me know. Used is fine.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/867950007

Not affliated with seller. Saw it when I was looking at a 2” S&W model 12 the guy has for sale.

[LittleLebowski]

Probably getting the Ruger Precision rimfire.

[LittleLebowski]

You know about this site, right?

https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/736676084005

Nope, not until now. Thank you, nice find.

[OlongJohnson]

I pretty much don't buy anything gun-related that has a UPC without checking the UPC on that site.

[LittleLebowski]

Anyone got a Magpul K grip they don’t want? I’ll pay postage.

[LittleLebowski]

Ruger Precision Rimfire purchased! My daughter memorized the Four Rules so I have to uphold my end of the deal.

[LittleLebowski]

Damnit, Hansohn Brothers

Fucking crack dealer. Dat PF discount, doe.

https://hansohnbrothers.com/shop/cgs/silencers/rimfire/cgs-siren/

[Hansohn Brothers]

Damnit, Hansohn Brothers

Fucking crack dealer. Dat PF discount, doe.

https://hansohnbrothers.com/shop/cgs/silencers/rimfire/cgs-siren/

Happy to be of service! :)

[LittleLebowski]

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[LockedBreech]

She looks psyched, and that's a nice lookin rifle!

[BobM]

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Reminds me of when I bought my then seven year old her Marlin 15Y twenty years ago.

[willie]

#ThisIsTheWay (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=ThisIsTheWay)

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Seeing a happy child warms my heart. Here we have a girl and her gun, but where is her dog?

[LittleLebowski]

Seeing a happy child warms my heart. Here we have a girl and her gun, but where is her dog?

Her German Shepherd is near her now, but since I don't have a truck anymore; the GSD stayed at home. That picture was taken at Hansohn Brothers.

[LittleLebowski]

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[LittleLebowski]

I need a 10/22 mag loader for her small hands as she can’t load the mags unassisted. There is a plethora of these available on Amazon and I’ve no idea which one to pick.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=10%2F22+magazine+loader&crid=2QP14R2IQY4QK&sprefix=10%2F22+ma%2Caps%2C146&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_4_8

[mmc45414]

There is a plethora of these available on Amazon and I’ve no idea which one to pick.
I don't know dick specifically about the 10/22, but my experience with the other four I have leads me to think if Maglula has a product I tend to wanna start there.


https://youtu.be/EEzjozpQKd4

[SeriousStudent]

Anyone got a Magpul K grip they don’t want? I’ll pay postage.

You still need this?

I got one just sitting in a box on a shelf in the gun room.

[LittleLebowski]

You still need this?

I got one just sitting in a box on a shelf in the gun room.

Yes and thank you, sir!

[SeriousStudent]

Yes and thank you, sir!

I have a cunning plan.....😁

[Toonces]

Her German Shepherd is near her now, but since I don't have a truck anymore; the GSD stayed at home. That picture was taken at Hansohn Brothers.

So you got a new vehicle and now the dog gets left behind. What are you?...Some kind of communist?

No wonder Stephanie barely tolerates you.

[M2CattleCo]

My daughter got a 6920 and a G17 when she turned 10.

No point in beating around the bush.

[littlejerry]

McFadden mag loader is epic. Buy the loader for $20 and then whichever adapters you want. You can load mags about as fast as you can shoot.