Washington State Magazine bill

[idahojess]

This may be worth contacting your state House representative about, as it sounds like there will be floor vote tomorrow. While it could be worse (it doesn't sound as bad as what is being proposed in Virginia), it still has storage requirements and transport requirements for mags that hold more than 15 rounds. These requirements are basically traps, potentially resulting in gross-misdemeanor criminal violations.

Have a 30-round mag or 17 round mag in your range bag that is not separately locked up while you are heading to the range? Leave a loaded or unloaded 30 round mag in your home, outside of a gun safe? You're a criminal (misdemeanors are crimes in this state -- i.e.. not infractions). Page 3 line 20 of the bill.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20200214/washington-house-to-vote-on-magazine-ban-bill

(The NRA link has a good summary of what's going on and a link to the proposed bill-- I'd rather not turn this into a the NRA-is-lame thread. I get it).

Here is a link to the bill:

https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=2240&Initiative=false&Year=2019

edited to correct link

[John Ralston]

I sent off the email to all my reps...not sure it will do any good.

[Mike C]

Thank you for posting this. I just shot off a text to my brother today about this. Hopefully he will contact his reps, even though it may fall on deaf ears at least he can track this and if passed he can avoid major issues as a result.

[Totem Polar]

Dang. We can’t ever get a break from this. Gonna need a better long-term plan, eventually, since this issue will probably come up each year.

[Lester Polfus]

Dang. We can’t ever get a break from this. Gonna need a better long-term plan, eventually, since this issue will probably come up each year.

Among other things, I'm stocking up on revolvers and trying to take as many people shooting for the first time who aren't part of the stereotypical "gun crowd."

[idahojess]

Dang. We can’t ever get a break from this. Gonna need a better long-term plan, eventually, since this issue will probably come up each year.

Well, you just need to remember that the reason that three felons engaged in a shootout in downtown Seattle that injured nine people (and killed an innocent bystander) last month was because one of them was able to purchase a high capacity magazine. (Sarcasm of course).

That's the Seattle Mayor's opinion anyway.


“The tragedy that occurred in downtown Seattle illustrates a deadly loophole that currently exists in our state’s laws. Felons are prohibited from purchasing firearms, yet they can still legally purchase large capacity magazines. That is exactly what one of the Seattle shooters did on January 22, and all evidence indicates that he used that magazine 4.5 hours later to fire significantly more bullets than he otherwise would have in our downtown,” she continued.

https://mynorthwest.com/1719903/gun-safety-bills-parkland-anniversary-washington-state/

I can't think of anything else going on in downtown Seattle that may have contributed. . .

[Borderland]

I've been in touch with my reps and ask them not to vote for anymore gun or magazine restrictions.

My M1 carbine and 1911's look better all the time.

[idahojess]

Looks like we made it. Hopefully.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20200219/washington-mag-ban-fails-crossover-deadline

As discussed in the article, lots of other stuff in the pipeline --- including a potential state background check system, which might alleviate the backlog that was going on. Maybe.

[Totem Polar]

Looks like we made it. Hopefully.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20200219/washington-mag-ban-fails-crossover-deadline

As discussed in the article, lots of other stuff in the pipeline --- including a potential state background check system, which might alleviate the backlog that was going on. Maybe.

Thanks for the update.

At this point, I’ll just note that I have some extremely liberal/progressive friends with no overt interest in the 2A who also believe that Inslee is a shifty, opportunistic POS concerned more with his own standing than doing right by his constituents, so I know my opinion is not an especially partisan one.

[idahojess]

Thanks for the update.

At this point, I’ll just note that I have some extremely liberal/progressive friends with no overt interest in the 2A who also believe that Inslee is a shifty, opportunistic POS concerned more with his own standing than doing right by his constituents, so I know my opinion is not an especially partisan one.

I agree, I really don't like Inslee either. But AG Ferguson is a factor too, and I think he is a longtime zealot in this gun control stuff.

I'm not sure who is Batman and who is Robin between the two of them.

[idahojess]

The inside baseball on this is that the Republicans put 120 proposed amendments on it to delay its passage. :)

https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=2240&Initiative=false&Year=2019&emci=9a94cd21-6953-ea11-a94c-00155d039e74&emdi=9e0d84b6-6b53-ea11-a94c-00155d039e74&ceid=3251341



"We are outraged by this blatant attempt to misuse procedural measures to run out the clock on this lifesaving policy,” Renee Hopkins, the gun safety group’s CEO, said in a statement moments after it became clear the bill would die. “In Washington state, at least 26 people have been killed and 45 more have been injured in mass shootings involving high-capacity magazines, including the shooting in downtown Seattle just last month that left one dead and seven others wounded.

https://mynorthwest.com/1727463/gun-magazine-ban-felon-voting-rights-die-at-session-cutoff-king-county-business-tax-gets-new-life/

(Yep, the gun safety group is referring to the Seattle gang shooting between felons, which killed and injured innocent people....)

[John Ralston]

The have re-introduced this as an Appropriations Bill, which doesn't allow for Amendments. Good grief this state is fucked.

[Totem Polar]

The have re-introduced this as an Appropriations Bill, which doesn't allow for Amendments. Good grief this state is fucked.

Now that we have a decent variety of ethnic food and craft beer over here, I have very little use for the wet side.

[willie]

I see that Renee Hopkins, big Chief at the Alliance in Seattle, works for restorative justice and criminal justice reform. She has made her living working for non profits. I bet she idolizes Hillary and Jane, two other big chiefs.

[idahojess]

In good news out of the Evercorona --er -- Evergreen State, the legislature adjourned Thursday without passing this.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20200313/washington-legislature-adjourns-sine-die


Looks like they also passed a bill for state background checks for purchases that will be centralized, with an $18 surcharge, rather than spread the process to whatever town/county you live in.

http://wagoal.org/wordpress/

[Borderland]

In good news out of the Evercorona --er -- Evergreen State, the legislature adjourned Thursday without passing this.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20200313/washington-legislature-adjourns-sine-die


Looks like they also passed a bill for state background checks for purchases that will be centralized, with an $18 surcharge, rather than spread the process to whatever town/county you live in.

http://wagoal.org/wordpress/

The problem with town/county checks is 1) they don't get any money from the state to do that, and 2) some are just plain understaffed to do it in a timely manner. I had one take 2 weeks where I live and I have a CPL from the county that did the check. Figure that one out. :confused: It looks like the state has finally hit upon how they'll get these BC's done but as always it's going to cost the end user. I don't have a problem with that if they would just centralize the records and give me a proceed based on my CPL. If my CPL was revoked they could just flag it like they do with DL's. It's all being managed by the DOL so it shouldn't be a huge undertaking. When the WSP or sheriff pulls me over and they run my plates my CPL comes up right along with my DL. They have the information, they just don't know how to use it, or maybe they don't want to.

The magazine restrictions and a AWB is coming but it won't come from the legislature. It will be on the ballot as an initiative in Nov. Watch it pass. The Corvid is god's way of punishing socialist.

[Borderland]

Now that we have a decent variety of ethnic food and craft beer over here, I have very little use for the wet side.

I hear that a lot.

I still make an annual pilgrimage to the east side every year for a box of Galas. Used to spend a few weeks every year in the Palouse.

Took this while hunting on the Snake R. That's all wheat, for 40 miles in every direction.



https://i.ibb.co/CVXfQLT/palouse02.jpg (https://ibb.co/SV1zBS9)

[Totem Polar]

I grew up on the Palouse, and bird hunting the snake river breaks. That pic is very representative of the area. Lovely.

If you get over this way again feel encouraged to PM.


I hear that a lot.

I still make an annual pilgrimage to the east side every year for a box of Galas. Used to spend a few weeks every year in the Palouse.

Took this while hunting on the Snake R. That's all wheat, for 40 miles in every direction.



https://i.ibb.co/CVXfQLT/palouse02.jpg (https://ibb.co/SV1zBS9)

[Borderland]

I grew up on the Palouse, and bird hunting the snake river breaks. That pic is very representative of the area. Lovely.

If you get over this way again feel encouraged to PM.

Roger that.