Rock it like Crockett.

[Trooper224]

After an on again, off again two year Ebay search I finally landed a sweet, sweet Galco Miami Classic for my 4506. It took a while due to the early hooked trigger guard. It's far from new, but a little application of Picard's fixed it right up. Is this my new EDC? Hardly. Will I use it on occasion? I bet I will. Mostly, I bought it because it makes me smile.

https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/170419385.uezmfNbS.jpg

[Totem Polar]

That is excellent.

[Lester Polfus]

You need one of these:

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/930074/1986-ferrari-daytona-spyder-replica-for-sale-in-volo-illinois-60073

This one sold for a mere $27K.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for one for you...

[Trooper224]

You need one of these:

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/930074/1986-ferrari-daytona-spyder-replica-for-sale-in-volo-illinois-60073

This one sold for a mere $27K.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for one for you...

As a matter of fact, that's my current ebay search. :)

[MattyD380]

Beautiful. I carry my 645, on occasion, in a Ted Blocker shoulder holster. My 645 has always been reliable, accurate and soft shooting. It’s my favorite “macro pistol.”

48664

[Maple Syrup Actual]

Awesome. I don't have a shoulder rig for my 4506 but seeing that makes me think this could be a situation worth addressing.

[entropy]

Nice blaster pal!

[Bigghoss]

Now I'm thinking I also need a Miami Classic for my 4506.

Maybe I should get one for my 92FS in case I find myself in an elevator with some bad guys.

[Bucky]

After an on again, off again two year Ebay search I finally landed a sweet, sweet Galco Miami Classic for my 4506. It took a while due to the early hooked trigger guard. It's far from new, but a little application of Picard's fixed it right up. Is this my new EDC? Hardly. Will I use it on occasion? I bet I will. Mostly, I bought it because it makes me smile.

https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/170419385.uezmfNbS.jpg

Very nice. A solid A! Of course, to achieve an A+, you’d need a Bren 10. ;).

(To be honest, that’s what I thought this thread was going to be.) ;)

[Bucky]

You need one of these:

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/930074/1986-ferrari-daytona-spyder-replica-for-sale-in-volo-illinois-60073

This one sold for a mere $27K.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for one for you...

Go big or go home. :):):)

https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/ZFFSG17A4L0083527

[deflave]

After an on again, off again two year Ebay search I finally landed a sweet, sweet Galco Miami Classic for my 4506. It took a while due to the early hooked trigger guard. It's far from new, but a little application of Picard's fixed it right up. Is this my new EDC? Hardly. Will I use it on occasion? I bet I will. Mostly, I bought it because it makes me smile.

https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/170419385.uezmfNbS.jpg


Very cool.

[deflave]

I was able to find something similar for my Lew Horton. Wife doesn't like me to wear it as it can cause women to chase you down the street.

https://i.imgur.com/kwrtO84.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/J2jqyR9.jpg

[Beat Trash]

I’ve got a Galco Miami Classic for a 5906 that’s been sitting in a box for over 25 years.

I actually forgot all about it until I saw this topic! The 5906 was my first duty pistol.

If anyone wants to get their metric Crockett on, let me know.

[Mntneer357]

After an on again, off again two year Ebay search I finally landed a sweet, sweet Galco Miami Classic for my 4506. It took a while due to the early hooked trigger guard. It's far from new, but a little application of Picard's fixed it right up. Is this my new EDC? Hardly. Will I use it on occasion? I bet I will. Mostly, I bought it because it makes me smile.

https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/170419385.uezmfNbS.jpg


I *really* wish I could click the "Like" button on this post more than once. We need a "Super Like" button or something.

Fucking rad, sir. In all respects. Thank you for sharing. Now I need a holster like that for my G19 fucking because.

[John Ralston]

I carried a 1076 in a shoulder rig for a while...but I couldn't do it for long. That big boat anchor hanging off your shoulders gets old pretty quick. Nice find though.

[BillSWPA]

Having tried several different shoulder holsters, the Miami Classic is among the best regardless of the connection to Miami Vice. I have three of them for different guns, and used them extensively when I wore shoulder holsters more often.

I have not carried regularly in a shoulder holster for many years, but wore my Glock 19 in a Miami Classic under my tuxedo at my brother in law’s wedding. It worked well with beltless pants.



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[Trooper224]

Having tried several different shoulder holsters, the Miami Classic is among the best regardless of the connection to Miami Vice. I have three of them for different guns, and used them extensively when I wore shoulder holsters more often.

I have not carried regularly in a shoulder holster for many years, but wore my Glock 19 in a Miami Classic under my tuxedo at my brother in law’s wedding. It worked well with beltless pants.



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Years ago, I had a Galco Jackass rig for the 1911 I was quite fond of. I still have one for a Beretta 92. There are certain niches a shoulder holster works well in.

I told one of my coworkers that my "sweet, sweet shoulder holster" was arriving in the mail. He said, "Shoulder holster? That's some dinosaur shit man." I replied, "Look in the mirror bro. What do you think we are?"

[Duelist]

I’ve got a Galco Miami Classic for a 5906 that’s been sitting in a box for over 25 years.

I actually forgot all about it until I saw this topic! The 5906 was my first duty pistol.

If anyone wants to get their metric Crockett on, let me know.

Would it work with a 3913? Some 5906 holsters work with the 3913.

[vcdgrips]

Absolutely outstanding.

[Trooper224]

I decided to wear it today to check the fit. So, since it's eleven degrees outside, I donned a blue wool turtleneck sweater and threw the rig on over it. I looked in the mirror and felt so Steve McQueen. Now, Bullitt's in the mall shopping for Valentine's Day. I'm such a stone cold bad ass.

[Bucky]

I decided to wear it today to check the fit. So, since it's eleven degrees outside, I donned a blue wool turtleneck sweater and threw the rig on over it. I looked in the mirror and felt so Steve McQueen. Now, Bullitt's in the mall shopping for Valentine's Day. I'm such a stone cold bad ass.

You mention Bullit, I always thought that a well designed upside down shoulder holster would be more comfortable, better balanced, and more easily concealed. Robert Culp also rocked an upside down shoulder holster on The Greatest American Hero.

[JTQ]

You mention Bullit, I always thought that a well designed upside down shoulder holster would be more comfortable, better balanced, and more easily concealed. Robert Culp also rocked an upside down shoulder holster on The Greatest American Hero.

Like this? http://www.c-rusty.com/pages/holsters/shoulder.html

[Maple Syrup Actual]

I decided to wear it today to check the fit. So, since it's eleven degrees outside, I donned a blue wool turtleneck sweater and threw the rig on over it. I looked in the mirror and felt so Steve McQueen. Now, Bullitt's in the mall shopping for Valentine's Day. I'm such a stone cold bad ass.

Obviously there's some pretty legitimate critiques of the shoulder holster but there's a few things that personally I think they do really well and obviously one of those things is "look incredible".

ECQC is maybe not so much one of their strong points but I reserve the right to make a few arguments in their favour, despite my doing so giving a lot of smart people Forrest Whittaker eye.

[Bucky]

Like this? http://www.c-rusty.com/pages/holsters/shoulder.html

Cool. Too bad (or good thing for my wallet) they don't make one for a Semi Auto. Sure, you don't get the "cylinder hold" like on a revolver holster, but I'm OK with a thumb break.

[Trooper224]

You mention Bullit, I always thought that a well designed upside down shoulder holster would be more comfortable, better balanced, and more easily concealed. Robert Culp also rocked an upside down shoulder holster on The Greatest American Hero.

Unfortunately, that design proved to be a better idea than a reality. The gun was retained by an elastic band that would eventually, certainly, let go of the gun at what was sure to be an innopportune time. This was especially true with anything larger than a j frame.

[Trooper224]

Obviously there's some pretty legitimate critiques of the shoulder holster but there's a few things that personally I think they do really well and obviously one of those things is "look incredible".

ECQC is maybe not so much one of their strong points but I reserve the right to make a few arguments in their favour, despite my doing so giving a lot of smart people Forrest Whittaker eye.

There are legitimate criticisms to be sure and I'm certainly not advocating their use at all times and places. On the other hand, I'm not in the "it'll get you kilt on da streetz" camp either. There are times and places where it works well. At my current job, we spend so much time seated in a chair that a good case could be made for its use.

[BillSWPA]

F I am wearing a suit and button-front overcoat in cold weather, a strong side hip holster is extremely slow, but a shoulder holdter is readily available.

Re: horizontal v. upside down, I have not seen an upside down holster with a harness that I would find comfortable. The Figure 8 harness of the Miami Classic and similar designs avoids putting pressure on the back of the neck. Every upside down holster I have seen has something right at the base of the neck.

[Maple Syrup Actual]

Yeah, that's kind of the thing...I mean maybe it would get you kilt in da streetz but if most of your day is not in da streetz...isn't that potentially a non-issue anyway?

I mean I'm a passionate advocate for ECQC stuff but here's my typical day right now: I get up, experience an existential crisis, give my teeth a quick brush, beat my head on the floor mourning the ravages of time, clean up, and get in my car. I drive to work and then I get out and I go sit in an office most of the time and when I'm not in the office I'm usually out driving somewhere and I pretty much always have a jacket on. Then I drive home and avoid mirrors and refuse to open mail until I lose consciousness sometime around midnight. On the way home I might stop at a grocery store or something but I'm just not really in an environment where I interact with random strangers on the street.

Granted I'm living in a place now where the most heated exchange I have seen was one guy mouthing the words "oh come on" when cut off in a Tim Horton's lineup (this actually resulted in an apology - it turned out the guy who cut him off didn't realize there were two entrances and wasn't expecting a vehicle from that direction.) (Also this was me cutting him off...sorry, that guy.) My threat level is pretty low. And I don't carry a gun in Canada for obvious reasons.

But all things considered I think there's an argument that for a lot of people with a similar daily routine, you might actually benefit from a holster that works really well with seated posture, and affords you an extremely covert draw stroke.



Not a popular opinion, I know. But on the zillion to one chance that the gas station I'm in gets robbed while I'm in it, which is about the only realistic scenario for me, I wouldn't be all that sorry I had a shoulder holster, if that's what I had.

[Beat Trash]

48681
Would it work with a 3913? Some 5906 holsters work with the 3913.

Yes it would.

[RevolverRob]

Upside down rig with a Colt in it? Check.

48682

Alas, no '68 Mustang GT Fastback...yet.

[Mntneer357]

Can y'all give some guidance on shoulder holsters? I get they're not "perfect" but I can definitely see their utility/usefulness. Sadly, I admit I know jack shit about them.

Any advantage to the Miami Classic over the Miami Classic II? Any knowledge y'all can impart is appreciated, as these things ain't exactly cheap.

Now, moar shoulder holster action plz... :-)

[Bigghoss]

I was able to find something similar for my Lew Horton. Wife doesn't like me to wear it as it can cause women to chase you down the street.

https://i.imgur.com/kwrtO84.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/J2jqyR9.jpg

I'm not gay. Buuuuttttt......

[CWM11B]

Thanks for the trip down memory lane. My first duty gun was a 1086. Policy at the time was the ONLY gun authorized for off duty carry was the issued duty pistol. I bought a MC as I found it to be the easiest way to carry that big beast. Also had the cuff pouch accessory attached to the mag pouches. Sadly, both (like my youth) are gone. Why sadly? The rig because it was just fookin' cool. The pistol, not because it was awesome, but because only about 1200 were made and my agency had half of them. A former colleague sold his a couple of years ago for almost 2k. Apparently they are collectors items now. I could have bought as many as I wanted for about 250.00. Most of us didnt buy them because we hated the damn thing And oh, to have the big ass box of spare mags we had (or the 20 or so personal owned ones) since they go for about 100 bucks a pop...

[Trooper224]

Can y'all give some guidance on shoulder holsters? I get they're not "perfect" but I can definitely see their utility/usefulness. Sadly, I admit I know jack shit about them.

Any advantage to the Miami Classic over the Miami Classic II? Any knowledge y'all can impart is appreciated, as these things ain't exactly cheap.

Now, moar shoulder holster action plz... :-)

I've found the MC style (many other makers copy it) to work the best for me. Galco still makes the Jackass, as the MC was called pre-Miami Vice. The main difference is, the JA positions the gun at a diagonal slant, whereas the MC keeps it in a horizontal position. It's hard to adjust the MC to hang diagonally, if that's your thing. in terms of concealment one or the other may work best for you depending on your build. The big difference in the MCII are the wider shoulder straps and the horizontal positioning of the mag case. I've never had a problem with the narrow straps and sometimes the wider straps can be seen along the edge of a cover garment, like an open shirt. The horizontal mags are easier to access, but harder to conceal. What will work best largely depends on how your built.

[medmo]

Sweet, nice eBay score!

I have one for my Beretta 92 and use it on long motorcycle rides under my riding jacket. Very comfy.

[Gary1911A1]

48685Congratulations Trooper224 on finding the right shoulder holster for your 4506. I got one years ago that simple said Larger Frame Pistol on the holster and have been known to wear it while driving my SLK-320.;)

[BillSWPA]

Can y'all give some guidance on shoulder holsters? I get they're not "perfect" but I can definitely see their utility/usefulness. Sadly, I admit I know jack shit about them.

Any advantage to the Miami Classic over the Miami Classic II? Any knowledge y'all can impart is appreciated, as these things ain't exactly cheap.

Now, moar shoulder holster action plz... :-)

I prefer shoulder holsters with a figure 8 harness because it keeps the pressure off the back of my neck.

The harness should be adjusted so that the gun and magazine pouch come as high up under your arms as possible, but not so high that the grip of the gun is being pulled outward away from your body. With the straps so adjusted, the gun will stay in place even when you bend forward, eliminating the need for tie-down straps. I discourage tie-down straps, because as you move, they will pull the gun in ways that will not help concealment.

Horizontal shoulder holsters are one of the few holster types for which I prefer a thumb break. Gravity works against keeping the gun in the holster. A combination of a thumb break and tension screw is helpful, but the tension screw cannot be too tight. In the case of a 1911, the retention strap should pass between the hammer and firing pin. Some holsters are designed to pass the strap around the spur of the lowered hammer, and are to be avoided. For a Glock, I do not find a significant advantage or disadvantage to the strap passing over the back of the slide or the backstrap of the grip. Either way, I find that I have to release the thumb break with less than a perfect grip.

The attachment of the harness to the holster should cause the holster to cant slightly grip down, and should also cause the gun to cant with the grip angled towards your body. The Miami Classic revolver holsters do this better than the semiauto holsters, although their semiauto holsters have proved acceptable to me, and the Kramer holster is particularly good for this.

Although the vast majority of shoulder holsters with figure 8 harnesses are horizontal or diagonal, Galco and FIST both make vertical holsters with such a harness.

Before I knew better, I tried some cheap nylon shoulder holsters. Concealment was generally not as good as better quality leather holsters, and access speed was often compromised by poor thumb break design and/or the potential for snagging. A thin nylon strap can easily get caught between the hammer body and hammer spur of a revolver.

Ken Null makes a few very interesting upside down holsters, my favorite of which is the SKR. This holster is extremely fast when drawing with either the strong hand or weak hand, although a weak hand draw will cover your own torso. A discreet draw is not possible, since the pull-through snap will be loud. I did not find the harness to be comfortable.

When drawing from a shoulder holster, be aware of the potential for covering your own arm as well as everyone within a 180 degree arc. This is the least of your concerns if you need your gun to stop something really bad from happening, and certainly would not concern anyone who carries AIWB, but ti does create a risk. You will not be able to practice drawing with live ammo on any public range, even those that permit drawing from strong side hip holsters.

[deflave]

I decided to wear it today to check the fit. So, since it's eleven degrees outside, I donned a blue wool turtleneck sweater and threw the rig on over it. I looked in the mirror and felt so Steve McQueen. Now, Bullitt's in the mall shopping for Valentine's Day. I'm such a stone cold bad ass.

LOL

[Trooper224]

48685Congratulations Trooper224 on finding the right shoulder holster for your 4506. I got one years ago that simple said Larger Frame Pistol on the holster and have been known to wear it while driving my SLK-320.;)

That car screams Hawaiian shirt and pornstache.

[Rick R]

After an on again, off again two year Ebay search I finally landed a sweet, sweet Galco Miami Classic for my 4506. It took a while due to the early hooked trigger guard. It's far from new, but a little application of Picard's fixed it right up. Is this my new EDC? Hardly. Will I use it on occasion? I bet I will. Mostly, I bought it because it makes me smile.

https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/170419385.uezmfNbS.jpg

Now you need a pet alligator and a boat to live on.

Edit to add,

Does anyone make a similar holster out of kydex? Seems that would help with retention, especially with a muzzle up rig.

[TGS]

48688

Got a Miami Classic II (open horizontal mag pouches) for cheap when Virginia Arms Company went out of business. Had JRCHolsters make a Glock 19M+Surefire XC1 holster component for it, as well as a radio pouch. Asked him to try and match the Galco color as close as possible, and I think he just about damn nailed it. The idea being that I could wear this if pulling watch in a vehicle for long periods. When I came onto my current assignment, we were pulling 12s in a vehicle outside the bosses residence, and wearing shit on the belt was pretty damn annoying. Both fortunately and unfortunately, we moved into the bosses house in a hardened command post, so the need rapidly disappeared. Very few people wear them outside specific niches like this (driving, sitting CP duties, back problems, chronic Delhi belly offenders that have explosive diarrhea with no warning, etc), and they have their limitations....but yeah, shoulder holsters are just plain cool.

I've got it mounted with the horizontal mag pouches right now, carrying 1 mag and a flashlight.

[SouthNarc]

I actually put quite a bit of time into working with shoulder holsters because

A) Two female detectives at my agency lobbied for them and the admin said they had to have a block of instruction specific to shoulder holsters and I got stuck with it.

B) I had a group of surveillance nerds that were really good at what they did and spent a lot of time squatting in vans and liked shoulder holsters.

The best one I ever found was made by Safariland and I’m not sure it’s even made anymore but it was surprisingly stable.

[Maple Syrup Actual]

Well, I would not have guessed that. I always figured it would pretty much stop at "this holster puts a gun directly in front of the right hand of anyone you're talking to, and if you reach for it your arm is instantly subject to being trapped, ergo: don't do that shit."

[TGS]

Well, I would not have guessed that. I always figured it would pretty much stop at "this holster puts a gun directly in front of the right hand of anyone you're talking to, and if you reach for it your arm is instantly subject to being trapped, ergo: don't do that shit."

Pretty much mandatory for those guys, as well as:

1) 15 year detectives on their 4th marriage with a drinking problem and crippling alimony

2) Canadian dudes with wild stories and smokin' hot babes making them Thanksgiving turkey dinners.

[Stephanie B]

Y'all are going to cost me money.

[RevolverRob]

Now you need a pet alligator and a boat to live on.

Edit to add,

Does anyone make a similar holster out of kydex? Seems that would help with retention, especially with a muzzle up rig.

Ken Null.

-

I keep the shoulder rig for two purposes.

1) There is nothing quicker to throw on for walking the dog at night, going to the stop and rob, or running to check the mail, if you’re already dressed in your PJs.

2) for road trips. Especially since I started having this liver issue, road trips can go smooth or they can go poor. If it’s bad news, being able to sit on the john without taking everything loose is nice.

[Maple Syrup Actual]

Pretty much mandatory for those guys, as well as:

1) 15 year detectives on their 4th marriage with a drinking problem and crippling alimony

2) Canadian dudes with wild stories and smokin' hot babes making them Thanksgiving turkey dinners.

This does explain the small production numbers - I would hate to have to depend on that target market. Sounds like the customers fall into the categories of cheap, broke, or wildly irresponsible. Possibly all three.

[MattyD380]

I love carrying in shoulder holsters. It's always more comfortable to NOT have gun stuffed into my pants. Driving AIWB is generally tolerable with something small... like my P230 or Kahr... but sitting is always more comfortable with a shoulder holster.

That said, shoulder holsters (obviously) require a jacket/vest. So, warm weather... they're out. And I feel like the gun is less accessible, quickly. Reaching under your arm... breaking the snap... ripping it past your jacket... etc. But it's definitely nice to have the option, when I know I'm going to be sitting/driving a lot.

I've got a Galco Classic Light shoulder rig for my Sigs. It fits all of the ones I own except the P230, of course. It's my favorite. I also have an original Jackass rig for a 1911... which fits my Hi Power with a little extra tug on the strap. But I find the snap on that one a little stiffer, than on the Galco or the Blocker.

[entropy]

Quickly approaching the age in which my selection of sport coats vastly outnumbers my selection of workout clothes...I have so far thoroughly enjoyed this thread...

[Trooper224]

Quickly approaching the age in which my selection of sport coats vastly outnumbers my selection of workout clothes...I have so far thoroughly enjoyed this thread...

When I recieved the new rig, one of the first things I did was make sure it was compatible with my favorite leather blazer.

[MDFA]

After an on again, off again two year Ebay search I finally landed a sweet, sweet Galco Miami Classic for my 4506. It took a while due to the early hooked trigger guard. It's far from new, but a little application of Picard's fixed it right up. Is this my new EDC? Hardly. Will I use it on occasion? I bet I will. Mostly, I bought it because it makes me smile.

https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/170419385.uezmfNbS.jpg

Had the same set up back in the day. Did I mention 30 years ago.... You're gonna cost me money... Thanks Brother:cool:

[Chuck Whitlock]

I prefer shoulder holsters with a figure 8 harness because it keeps the pressure off the back of my neck.

The harness should be adjusted so that the gun and magazine pouch come as high up under your arms as possible, but not so high that the grip of the gun is being pulled outward away from your body. With the straps so adjusted, the gun will stay in place even when you bend forward, eliminating the need for tie-down straps. I discourage tie-down straps, because as you move, they will pull the gun in ways that will not help concealment.

Horizontal shoulder holsters are one of the few holster types for which I prefer a thumb break. Gravity works against keeping the gun in the holster. A combination of a thumb break and tension screw is helpful, but the tension screw cannot be too tight. In the case of a 1911, the retention strap should pass between the hammer and firing pin. Some holsters are designed to pass the strap around the spur of the lowered hammer, and are to be avoided. For a Glock, I do not find a significant advantage or disadvantage to the strap passing over the back of the slide or the backstrap of the grip. Either way, I find that I have to release the thumb break with less than a perfect grip.

The attachment of the harness to the holster should cause the holster to cant slightly grip down, and should also cause the gun to cant with the grip angled towards your body. The Miami Classic revolver holsters do this better than the semiauto holsters, although their semiauto holsters have proved acceptable to me, and the Kramer holster is particularly good for this.

Although the vast majority of shoulder holsters with figure 8 harnesses are horizontal or diagonal, Galco and FIST both make vertical holsters with such a harness.

Before I knew better, I tried some cheap nylon shoulder holsters. Concealment was generally not as good as better quality leather holsters, and access speed was often compromised by poor thumb break design and/or the potential for snagging. A thin nylon strap can easily get caught between the hammer body and hammer spur of a revolver.

Ken Null makes a few very interesting upside down holsters, my favorite of which is the SKR. This holster is extremely fast when drawing with either the strong hand or weak hand, although a weak hand draw will cover your own torso. A discreet draw is not possible, since the pull-through snap will be loud. I did not find the harness to be comfortable.

When drawing from a shoulder holster, be aware of the potential for covering your own arm as well as everyone within a 180 degree arc. This is the least of your concerns if you need your gun to stop something really bad from happening, and certainly would not concern anyone who carries AIWB, but ti does create a risk. You will not be able to practice drawing with live ammo on any public range, even those that permit drawing from strong side hip holsters.

+1! A solid post with good info. I only take issue with the bolded sentence, as a strap that goes around the tang can be trapped between the hand and the gun, stalling the draw.



Can y'all give some guidance on shoulder holsters? I get they're not "perfect" but I can definitely see their utility/usefulness. Sadly, I admit I know jack shit about them.

Any advantage to the Miami Classic over the Miami Classic II? Any knowledge y'all can impart is appreciated, as these things ain't exactly cheap.

Now, moar shoulder holster action plz... :-)

I'm partial to the designs of Sam Andrews. http://www.andrewsleather.com/traditional.htm

I once had a Solo shoulder rig for a Kahr that I wore as a BUG under a sport coat / blazer while working at the Tribe's casino. It also worked great with a waist-length leather flight jacket. I'd wear it partially zipped while sitting in the bleachers during my kids' events at school, and didn't have to worry about anything showing at my waist.

Sam also has an online store with stuff in stock: https://samuel-andrews-crh7.squarespace.com/

The only thing keeping me from snapping up an in-stock Monarch rig for the Kahr is, now that I have both a K9 and a CW9, I really want another Solo rig and an Urban Safari rig (less the mag pouches). I will probably succumb to temptation and grab an in-stock Monarch for my Commander.



Y'all are going to cost me money.

The circle is complete. :cool:

[TGS]

Does anyone make a similar holster out of kydex? Seems that would help with retention, especially with a muzzle up rig.

Muzzle up is generally used for Colt DS or S&W J-frame sized revolvers, not semi-autos. I'd be much more confident in a leather thumb break than just plain kydex for retention.

There are kydex options available, however I can't remember who makes them. Safariland even makes an ALS shoulder rig, if you like carrying a holster the size of a football under your armpit.

[CWM11B]

Here's a couple I found while working on a project. Havent tried them, so no comment on quality, etc.

https://www.highnoonholsters.com/kydex-holsters/equalizer

https://www.arestactical.net/product/shoulder-holster/

[Trooper224]

+1! A solid post with good info. I only take issue with the bolded sentence, as a strap that goes around the tang can be trapped between the hand and the gun, stalling the draw.




I'm partial to the designs of Sam Andrews. http://www.andrewsleather.com/traditional.htm

I once had a Solo shoulder rig for a Kahr that I wore as a BUG under a sport coat / blazer while working at the Tribe's casino. It also worked great with a waist-length leather flight jacket. I'd wear it partially zipped while sitting in the bleachers during my kids' events at school, and didn't have to worry about anything showing at my waist.

Sam also has an online store with stuff in stock: https://samuel-andrews-crh7.squarespace.com/

The only thing keeping me from snapping up an in-stock Monarch rig for the Kahr is, now that I have both a K9 and a CW9, I really want another Solo rig and an Urban Safari rig (less the mag pouches). I will probably succumb to temptation and grab an in-stock Monarch for my Commander.




The circle is complete. :cool:

Andrew's stuff is first rate.

I need that Urban Safari for the 4506 and 4566.

[JonInWA]

I've been rocking this one for my Beretta 92D, as I discussed in our fairly recent (well, started in 2018) shoulder holster thread. https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?31888-Shoulder-Holster-Recommendations
Excellent orthopedic holster (when suffering/recuperating from hip/nerve damage) or for vehicular carry.

https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/ra-shoulder-holster-s-92-bwn-bwn-lthr/e02226/

Excellent holster, very well made and fitted. I like how it's not saddled with off-side magazine pouch(es), as I prefer to carry my reload magazine(s) on my belt.

According to Beretta, they're currently out of stock on this one in brown, but it's available in black (and on sale, for any interested).

Best, Jon

[Chuck Whitlock]

Andrew's stuff is first rate.

I need that Urban Safari for the 4506 and 4566.

:cool:

Once I get one of these:
https://www.mossberg.com/product/590-nightstick-6-shot/

I will need one of his firepower rigs.

[Trooper224]

:cool:

Once I get one of these:
https://www.mossberg.com/product/590-nightstick-6-shot/

I will need one of his firepower rigs.

The two were made for each other.

On the other hand, if I try to carry the '06/'66 combo with that Urban Safari rig, I just might rupture a disc from the weight. :)

[Chuck Whitlock]

On the other hand, if I try to carry the '06/'66 combo with that Urban Safari rig, I just might rupture a disc from the weight. :)


It will be the perfect rig to use from your wheelchair.

[Maple Syrup Actual]

:cool:

Once I get one of these:
https://www.mossberg.com/product/590-nightstick-6-shot/

I will need one of his firepower rigs.

carelessly googled

tears of joy ran down my face

for 1980

[fatdog]

I could never get comfortable with the horizontal rigs, so I had Jim M. at FIST make one of his model 70 rigs for my 645 years ago. It is a vertical "pull through" design with nothing to unsnap on the draw, you just pull through and begin to rotate and it breaks the snap on the drawstroke...love it. Unexpected benefit was it works with a cocked and locked government model just as well (but the picture is my beloved 645)...

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[BillSWPA]

I could never get comfortable with the horizontal rigs, so I had Jim M. at FIST make one of his model 70 rigs for my 645 years ago. It is a vertical "pull through" design with nothing to unsnap on the draw, you just pull through and begin to rotate and it breaks the snap on the drawstroke...love it. Unexpected benefit was it works with a cocked and locked government model just as well (but the picture is my beloved 645)...

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I have never actually tried one of these but it appears to be the best designed vertical shoulder holster I have seen.

[Trooper224]

I could never get comfortable with the horizontal rigs, so I had Jim M. at FIST make one of his model 70 rigs for my 645 years ago. It is a vertical "pull through" design with nothing to unsnap on the draw, you just pull through and begin to rotate and it breaks the snap on the drawstroke...love it. Unexpected benefit was it works with a cocked and locked government model just as well (but the picture is my beloved 645)...

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Now that's really something.

[Bucky]

I could never get comfortable with the horizontal rigs, so I had Jim M. at FIST make one of his model 70 rigs for my 645 years ago. It is a vertical "pull through" design with nothing to unsnap on the draw, you just pull through and begin to rotate and it breaks the snap on the drawstroke...love it. Unexpected benefit was it works with a cocked and locked government model just as well (but the picture is my beloved 645)...

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Are they cross straps? Picture doesn’t quite show it.

[fatdog]

Are they cross straps? Picture doesn’t quite show it.

Yes, identical to a Galco

[Trooper224]

Now that I've got the classy leather, how about going further with a set of Pau Ferro Hogues?
https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/170433270.jrrD5GRv.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/170433271.Ycc6LPXv.jpg

[dgg9]

Can y'all give some guidance on shoulder holsters? I get they're not "perfect" but I can definitely see their utility/usefulness. Sadly, I admit I know jack shit about them.

Any advantage to the Miami Classic over the Miami Classic II? Any knowledge y'all can impart is appreciated, as these things ain't exactly cheap.

Now, moar shoulder holster action plz... :-)

I've had shoulder holsters but admittedly used them infrequently. The usual scenarios -- long drives, etc. The Alessi Bodyguard is the MC done right. No comparison. It just drapes better and keeps the grip where it needs to be. Plus, you can get the mag carrier to be 90 degrees rotated so the mags don't point down; they point to centerline. Much easier to reach.

ETA: I did get mine from the "Lou Alessi still alive" era, so IDK about today. There's always ebay.

[MattyD380]

Now I wanna check out some wood grips for my 645.

[That Guy]

Now that I've got the classy leather, how about going further with a set of Pau Ferro Hogues?

That. Looks. Amazing!

[Gary1911A1]

Now I wanna check out some wood grips for my 645.

I got some nice wood for my 645, but I don't remember where I got them from.:confused:

[MattyD380]

I got some nice wood for my 645, but I don't remember where I got them from.:confused:

Sweet. There’s plenty of options floating around on eBay. I’ve liked the pachmayrs better than the stick panels...but some wood would look slick.

[Brian T]

I have plenty of wood grips, factory and not, for S&W 2nd and 3rd heaters. I have a set of smooth Hogue wood grips for S&W 4506/4566 (and corresponding 10mm variants).

I am trying to save up for a pair of 4506-1s. And I'd trade my 4516-2 to get one!

[Trooper224]

I snagged an old Safariland 540 off ebay. It'll make a good range holster. It's actually for a 645. However, the early production 4506 shares the same profile regarding holster fit and I'v found more success narrowing my search for 645 accessories.

https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/170607991.65qenV6c.jpg

[Stephanie B]

Had the same set up back in the day. Did I mention 30 years ago.... You're gonna cost me money... Thanks Brother:cool:

Galco's running a 20% off sale. Coupon code: HERE2HELP

[Eagle76]

After an on again, off again two year Ebay search I finally landed a sweet, sweet Galco Miami Classic for my 4506. It took a while due to the early hooked trigger guard. It's far from new, but a little application of Picard's fixed it right up. Is this my new EDC? Hardly. Will I use it on occasion? I bet I will. Mostly, I bought it because it makes me smile.

https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/170419385.uezmfNbS.jpg

Very nice setup. What are the Galco product numbers on the backs of the holster & mag carrier? Thanks!

[Trooper224]

Very nice setup. What are the Galco product numbers on the backs of the holster & mag carrier? Thanks!

Holster: 244
Mag pouch: SCL22

[Eagle76]

Holster: 244
Mag pouch: SCL22

Thank you very much! I appreciate the information.

[MattyD380]

Because I’ve been happily Crocketting my 4506-1 lately…

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That’s a Ted Blocker Lifeline, I believe. It’s for a 645 but it fits the -1 fine. Carries comfortably and shoots great.

[entropy]

Ted Blocker....that’s a name you don’t hear much anymore.

Neat stuff.

[bac1023]

Now that I've got the classy leather, how about going further with a set of Pau Ferro Hogues?
https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/170433270.jrrD5GRv.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/170433271.Ycc6LPXv.jpg

Beautiful grips

[bac1023]

After an on again, off again two year Ebay search I finally landed a sweet, sweet Galco Miami Classic for my 4506. It took a while due to the early hooked trigger guard. It's far from new, but a little application of Picard's fixed it right up. Is this my new EDC? Hardly. Will I use it on occasion? I bet I will. Mostly, I bought it because it makes me smile.

https://a4.pbase.com/g12/64/521964/2/170419385.uezmfNbS.jpg


Great rig and pistol

You've got to rock one of these though. :cool:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/g8Mj1u.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/png8Mj1uj)

[Archer1440]

Sure. But what would you put into the mag pouches?

[CWM11B]

This brings back memories. My first duty pistol was a 1086, and the flaming asshole of a chief we had was anti-gun and would only authorize the duty pistol fir off duty carry. I had a Miami classic for it. I wish I had bought a dozen of those pistols when we traded them in. Ive seen them go for close to 2k. And I really wish I had the pile of mags I had. And the 1006 and 1066 I sold when 10mm was fading away.

[HeavyDuty]

…1086…

Never heard of that flavor before - damn, that’s sexy.

[CWM11B]

DAO 10mm. IIRC, only 1200 or so were made. My agency and one other adopted it, can't remember which one. There is another variant out there which is more rare. I think it was a four inch version of the 1076 made for a state bureau of prisons. I want to say it was Maine, and there were only four hundred and change of them.

[Gary1911A1]

The 3rd Generation S&W Autos were some of the best service pistols made. I'd rather have a 4566 than any M&P.

[Archer1440]

Well, as long as we’re going all old school here… A Python nest. (And, yeah, I know it’s not a semi, but it happened to be what I was wearing earlier today)

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[MattyD380]

Well, as long as we’re going all old school here… A Python nest. (And, yeah, I know it’s not a semi, but it happened to be what I was wearing earlier today)

97937

Noice.

I might have to get a setup like that when I get my 1965 Trooper back from its reblueing adventure.

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[BN]

When I first saw this thread title, knowing who posted, my mind immediately went to Davy Crockett. Then my mind confused Davy with Jim Bowie and I expected to see a giant knife when I opened the thread. ;)

[MattyD380]

I mean... we've got revolvers.

I'm certainly not opposed to seeing a giant knife :)

Or a Roman gladius, for that matter...

[entropy]

Great rig and pistol

You've got to rock one of these though. :cool:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/g8Mj1u.jpg[/URL]


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Damn. Trying to post a funny animated gif without success. You get the idea tho...lol

[jnc36rcpd]

I'm surprised no one posted a photo of the Strayer Voigt TIKI-T Crockett carried in the 2006 movie.

[bac1023]

I'm surprised no one posted a photo of the Strayer Voigt TIKI-T Crockett carried in the 2006 movie.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/gcd5Hj.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmgcd5Hjj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/S4bcwz.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnS4bcwzj)

[revchuck38]

Well, as long as we’re going all old school here… A Python nest. (And, yeah, I know it’s not a semi, but it happened to be what I was wearing earlier today)

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Boy, talk about style points!

[feudist]

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Deliver Us From Evil sets up the "Burnett" arc where Sonny simply turns evil because of "Amnesia". Highly unlikely outside of soap operas. A more honest arc would have the bitterly disillusioned and suicidally depressed Crockett simply seduced into the all consuming hedonism of the lifestyle, much like the FBI agent (Ed O'Neil)in the season 1 opener Heart of Darkness.
Since Amnesia is not a defense to a crime, certainly not multiple murders widely committed over time, the show should have ended with Crockett in jail or shot dead.
My personal preference would have been to end it on a shock-the murder of Tubbs in the lighthouse. I think that would have put an exclamation point on the futile and essentially nihilistic essence of the "Drug War" in the 80s.

[jnc36rcpd]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/gcd5Hj.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmgcd5Hjj)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/S4bcwz.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnS4bcwzj)

Well played, sir. Well played.

[Trooper224]

Deliver Us From Evil sets up the "Burnett" arc where Sonny simply turns evil because of "Amnesia". Highly unlikely outside of soap operas. A more honest arc would have the bitterly disillusioned and suicidally depressed Crockett simply seduced into the all consuming hedonism of the lifestyle, much like the FBI agent (Ed O'Neil)in the season 1 opener Heart of Darkness.
Since Amnesia is not a defense to a crime, certainly not multiple murders widely committed over time, the show should have ended with Crockett in jail or shot dead.
My personal preference would have been to end it on a shock-the murder of Tubbs in the lighthouse. I think that would have put an exclamation point on the futile and essentially nihilistic essence of the "Drug War" in the 80s.

That whole season pretty well jumped the shark.

[feudist]

That whole season pretty well jumped the shark.

There was no coming back from "Burnett".
Personally, I kind of liked evil Sonny. He had...vision, and a bloody minded thoroughness.
And hotter women.

[Gary1911A1]

Let's not forget Crockett went to a S&W 6906 as backup around season 4 after he used the Detonics to get that Viking Biker from Hell off him.

[HeavyDuty]

Let's not forget Crockett went to a S&W 6906 as backup around season 4 after he used the Detonics to get that Viking Biker from Hell off him.

Memories of my short-lived 469 that I sold to buy my ASP…