Need an opinion, Peltor ComTac III or MSA Sordin Supreme Pro X

[Clay1]

Street price of sub $300, which one? Why and where to buy? I'm calling SRS tomorrow. Thought that I made the decision already to go with the Sordin's but a friend has me questioning my decision. I have no current plans of mounting ear pro on a helmet. I take classes, shoot leagues, shoot matches and train.

Thanks for your thoughts.

[BillSWPA]

Street price of sub $300, which one? Why and where to buy? I'm calling SRS tomorrow. Thought that I made the decision already to go with the Sordin's but a friend has me questioning my decision. I have no current plans of mounting ear pro on a helmet. I take classes, shoot leagues, shoot matches and train.

Thanks for your thoughts.

I have both Peltor and Sordin muffs. I like both and would not hesitate to buy either again. My preference is Sordin for the ability to use Eneloops and the sound quality.



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[Clay1]

I have both Peltor and Sordin muffs. I like both and would not hesitate to buy either again. My preference is Sordin for the ability to use Eneloops and the sound quality.



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Nice comment, I bet I have twenty plus Eneloops. I use them in my electronic predator caller. I also have a whiz bang charger for them. That comment hit a good button for me. I think that I can get the Sordins a little less expensive anyhow, but $50 over 5 or 10 years isn't an issue either way.

Strange how things come to light once you start shopping, but I have good access to the Safariland Liberators as well, but know little about those.

I hear good things about the customer service at SRS.

[ssb]

I have no experience with the Peltors.

I do have the Sordin Supreme Pro Xs, combined with the excellent Noisefighters gel cups and a cool guy headband. They are easily the most comfortable ear pro I've worn. They also seem to do well with sweat (I sweat... a lot. I've killed several pairs of Howard Leights that way). I've had them about six months and, in retrospect, I should have just bought these at the beginning rather than buying four pairs of Howard Leights over the years. Still on the original batteries as well, with an average of about 10 hours/month of use, plus two classes, for what that's worth. Sound quality is good, though I find they tend to amplify a bit less than the Howard Leights on indoor ranges. Outdoor quality is excellent.

Edit: mine came from SRS.

[Spartan1980]

SRS customer service is great. How’s your hearing now? I have the Supreme Pro X with gel cups. Overall quality is excellent. But if you have hearing loss now you’ll still be pissed. You can hear a squirrel tiptoeing through the grass at 100 yards but you still can’t make out what someone is saying to your face. I’d go with Comptacs or the new 3m model just for that reason alone. Otherwise the Sordins are fantastic.


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[Clay1]

SRS customer service is great. How’s your hearing now? I have the Supreme Pro X with gel cups. Overall quality is excellent. But if you have hearing loss now you’ll still be pissed. You can hear a squirrel tiptoeing through the grass at 100 yards but you still can’t make out what someone is saying to your face. I’d go with Comptacs or the new 3m model just for that reason alone. Otherwise the Sordins are fantastic.
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Good questions, while I don't wear hearing adds, I stop asking people to repeat them self after the third time and just smile and nod my head.

I would like a muff with good volume, I still plan on double plugging. I guess if it was an easy answer, they would only make one model and everyone would be happy with it.

[flyrodr]

I've been using the Sordin Supreme Pro X (with gel cups) for several years. Bought 'em at SRS; nice folks. I do double plug if on an indoor range (one I frequent, although only 25 yards, allows rifles, and having a short AR next to you can get loud).

Mine have held up very well. Some shedding of the coating on the wiring, but no problem with performance. And with the gel cups, they're comfortable for long sessions.

No experience with the Peltors, but I'd highly recommend the Sordins.

[Clay1]

Found this on youT and it was very informative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lMZkJOjd9Y

Not buying the $900 pair of Ops Core Amp. But a decent review of the Peltor Comptac III and the Sordins.

[BN]

Found this on youT and it was very informative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lMZkJOjd9Y


For crying out loud. Get to the point. He must be getting paid for how long the video is. :mad: I won't usually watch a long youtube video.

[Nephrology]

I own a pair of each. The Comtac IIIs are better than the Sordins by a wide margin IMO. Only downside to the Comtacs is they are kind of chunky. Otherwise in every way superior to the Sordin product.

[Clay1]

Thanks for the help everyone. If I was going to buy a pair of the Comptac III today, where would you suggest?

And Bill, while Garand Thumb has some great info, he really could cut those videos down in length. :rolleyes:

[Spartan1980]

Good questions, while I don't wear hearing adds, I stop asking people to repeat them self after the third time and just smile and nod my head.

Sounds like we're in the same exact boat. I was torn between the Comptac III's and Sordin myself when I bought the Sordin from SRS through Amazon. Kinda wish I'd have sprung a few more bucks and got the Comps but the Sordins are good kit. I especially like them when hunting, that thing I said about the squirrel is real!

[Nephrology]

Thanks for the help everyone. If I was going to buy a pair of the Comptac III today, where would you suggest?

And Bill, while Garand Thumb has some great info, he really could cut those videos down in length. :rolleyes:

I got em through SRS. No issues. Get a headband and gel cups for sure. I got the Ferro Concepts band SRS sells on their website; comfortable enough for me.

[RJ]

I have no experience with the Peltors.

I do have the Sordin Supreme Pro Xs, combined with the excellent Noisefighters gel cups and a cool guy headband. They are easily the most comfortable ear pro I've worn. They also seem to do well with sweat (I sweat... a lot. I've killed several pairs of Howard Leights that way). I've had them about six months and, in retrospect, I should have just bought these at the beginning rather than buying four pairs of Howard Leights over the years. Still on the original batteries as well, with an average of about 10 hours/month of use, plus two classes, for what that's worth. Sound quality is good, though I find they tend to amplify a bit less than the Howard Leights on indoor ranges. Outdoor quality is excellent.

Edit: mine came from SRS.

Ditto.

My MSA Sordin Pro X's are from the group buy in September 2015. Still going strong. www.srstactical.com are a stand up group to do business with.

[Clay1]

Maybe a strange twist, but I called SRS and asked about the Sordins vs the Comptac IIIs and he said that Sordin has just released a new unit called the SWATCOM Active 8 Waterproof set. He told me that the people from Sordin came from Peltor. The Peltors have a 1 year warranty and the Sordins have a 5 year warranty. Then what closed the deal for the semi deaf guy is that the Sordins have more volume than the Peltors.

Bottom line, I bought the new Swatcom Active 8 unit. I'll report back on how these do for me.

[Nephrology]

Maybe a strange twist, but I called SRS and asked about the Sordins vs the Comptac IIIs and he said that Sordin has just released a new unit called the SWATCOM Active 8 Waterproof set. He told me that the people from Sordin came from Peltor. The Peltors have a 1 year warranty and the Sordins have a 5 year warranty. Then what closed the deal for the semi deaf guy is that the Sordins have more volume than the Peltors.

Bottom line, I bought the new Swatcom Active 8 unit. I'll report back on how these do for me.

First time I've heard of these. Let me know how you like them. Very curious.

[172driver]

Maybe a strange twist, but I called SRS and asked about the Sordins vs the Comptac IIIs and he said that Sordin has just released a new unit called the SWATCOM Active 8 Waterproof set. He told me that the people from Sordin came from Peltor. The Peltors have a 1 year warranty and the Sordins have a 5 year warranty. Then what closed the deal for the semi deaf guy is that the Sordins have more volume than the Peltors.

Bottom line, I bought the new Swatcom Active 8 unit. I'll report back on how these do for me.

Verdict on these? Interested in a pair.

[Jim Watson]

Looked interesting until I saw NRRs of 18-20. You might have to accept that for connection to a radio on a SWAT raid or for a shot or two hunting, but it is not enough for me on a range. I have HL Pro 30 dB for when I absolutely positively have to hear the chit chat but mostly I wear high NRR passives.

[DMF13]

Looked interesting until I saw NRRs of 18-20. You might have to accept that for connection to a radio on a SWAT raid or for a shot or two hunting, but it is not enough for me on a range. I have HL Pro 30 dB for when I absolutely positively have to hear the chit chat but mostly I wear high NRR passives.Absolutely. Beyond just the EPA NRR, if you look at the individual frequency data the high priced low profile tactical earpro under perform many other options out there, across all the sound frequencies. Those sets are designed for radio comms by a tactical team, AND for wear with helmets. So unless you need to wear a helmet, and have radio comms, you're paying a lot of money to sacrifice protection for your ears.

Further, you can have radio comms with the lower priced headsets. I trained with another office at our agency, where the lead FI there had arranged to get everyone Peltor 100s, and I used my Peltor 500s. We all connected our radios to the earpro through the 3.5mm audio jacks. All range commands for qualifications, and training drills were done over the radios. It worked great.

My Peltor 500s, with gel earcups, cost less than half the price of the Sordins or ComTacs, but offer much better hearing protection.

If you're a SEAL, Delta, HRT, etc, and are wearing earpro with a helmet, then get those low profile tactical sets. If you want to save your hearing, and avoid tinnitus (or keep it from getting worse like me), you're much better off with other earpro.

[rob_s]

Many years ago (15? 18?) I borrowed a pair of each for a stage or two at a match, settled on the Sordin as being better and never went back. I even wear them for carbine and clays shooting (some people complain about muffs with long guns). I pits been so long I can’t even remember why I preferred the Sordin but I’ve had no reason to switch. I’ve had two sets in that time after the first gave up the ghost a couple of years back, seemingly more from neglect than anything else.

[spelingmastir]

I bought a set of sordins a few years ago and sold them because my head is too big for them. I now use comtacs as they can accommodate my Charlie Brown head.

[RJ]

I own a pair of each. The Comtac IIIs are better than the Sordins by a wide margin IMO. Only downside to the Comtacs is they are kind of chunky. Otherwise in every way superior to the Sordin product.

Neph - What are three things you find better about the Comtac IIIs than Sordins? Not trying to argue - my Sordin Supreme Pro X are now going on maybe 6-7 years old, and I'm pondering replacement options. They still work fine, and after using a set of Noisefighters, fit on my glasses even better.

PS Hope all ok with you and things are going well in your studies.

[Nephrology]

Neph - What are three things you find better about the Comtac IIIs than Sordins? Not trying to argue - my Sordin Supreme Pro X are now going on maybe 6-7 years old, and I'm pondering replacement options. They still work fine, and after using a set of Noisefighters, fit on my glasses even better.

PS Hope all ok with you and things are going well in your studies.

They have a lot more degrees of freedom with their adjustment mechanism, give a better seal, have better speaker quality and subjectively are a little more comfortable. They also subjectively just feel like a better made product, and the battery compartment is effortless to access (unlike the Sordins). The biggest downside is they are chunkier which makes them sort of a pain with scoped rifles, but not the end of the world.

The Sordins are a great product too, but I always wear my Comtacs even though both live in the same range bag.

and thanks! Still chugging along.