Glock 44 range reports

[GJM]

Now that the big reveal has happened, and the Glock 44 is out, it seems like it is time for a thread dedicated to Glock 44 range reports.

I picked my Glock 44 up today at the LGS. When I handed it to my wife to show her, she basically turned up her nose and said she wasn’t interested. In that her main competition pistol is a 320 Legion, I could sort of understand how the 44 might feel like a toy. When I got it home, I was pleased to determine that I could add a GlockStore Thug grip plug, which added about 1.5 ounces. Link:

https://www.glockstore.com/Thug-Plug

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The trigger felt heavy relative to the weight of the pistol, and I decided to look at the striker spring. It appeared to be a regular OEM 5.5 spring, although the spring cups were white instead of black. I replaced the 5.5 OEM striker spring with a Wolf 5.0, improving the trigger somewhat, but in the process launching one white spring cup to an as yet undetermined area of my gun area. Replacements are on the way, but in the meantime, I used regular black OEM spring cups. Next, was to check the G44 in a George AIWB and my Comp Tac International competition holster — the 44 worked perfectly in both.

End of the day, my wife and I headed back to the range — me to shoot the 44 and her to mess with one of her new Legion optics top ends. After a few rounds to verify it would still light off rimfire rounds, I figured I should shoot some known test. My wife suggested Gabe’s test, using a Pistol Training target, since that is what I had up. Oh, before I forget, the 44 shot POA/POI in windage, but about two inches high at 7 yards with the 40 grain Fiocchi ammo I was using. Will look at a taller front sight later.

I had to edit the various strings together, so you didn’t have to watch me reloading magazines. I was turbo on three runs, maybe on a fourth, and just over on a few more. I could stand some time working with the smaller grip as my draw looked balky. Here is the video.


https://youtu.be/pRBHOWyMblY

Afterwards, I tried some doubles, and found the 44 harder to split than my Gen 4 17 competition pistol. While the sights lift less than a 9mm, the overall experience was very similar. At this point my wife asked to shoot a few magazines through the 44. Here she is shooting a two inch dot and then the eight inch circle at about 7 yards.


https://youtu.be/eHXxRP6awxg

Just as I was about to ask her what she thought, she turned to me and said “wow, I had no idea this thing was going to be so much fun to shoot!” That, of course led me to end up loading a box of .22 ammo into magazines as she shot away.

After I wrestled the pistol back out of her hands, I finished up another box just enjoying the 44. At that point I got the bad feeling I might be ruining my recoil control with my Glock 17, so I went and grabbed it to see. I figured I would do a cold Garcia dot drill, which is a draw and six shots into a two inch dot at 7 yards, since that would test recoil control. It went clean in 3.69, allaying any concern about not remembering how to shoot centerfire.


https://youtu.be/BYAgo6im2vU

I repeated another dot in 3.20 something with my sixth shot about a half inch high, then did a number of other tasks, and experienced no negative from the .22, and positive from steering the sights and working the trigger on a harder to shoot pistol than my G17.

Throughout the session, I had a couple light strikes, possibly from my lighter striker spring, possibly because it is a rimfire. I also had a few stoppages when trying to load from slide lock. I have no idea how these pistols will do with higher round counts, and if my sample is representative, but as of now I give it an unqualified thumbs up as a helpful training tool, especially for a Glock shooter.

[Balisong]

You mention a couple times that it's harder to shoot than your G17. Why is that? The trigger?

[GJM]

You mention a couple times that it's harder to shoot than your G17. Why is that? The trigger?

Fair question, and not exactly sure, but the trigger weight to total weight and grip size are less favorable than on my 17.

[Paul D]

I took my Glock 44 this weekend. So things I noticed:

1) It will not feed ammo rated less than 1000 fps. It will not cycle reliably. All that hype that it will eat anything is bull.
2) The trigger 'feels' lousy because the gun and recoil is so light. I had to use a (-) connector and 4.5 lb spring to match my carry glock 'feel'.
3) I wish the frame was made out of steel. It would weigh the same as my G19. I will need to get that grip plug GJM had.
4) Because the dovetails are plastic, I will have to be careful not to force in metal sights for fear of peaning the slide. The stock sights sucks.
5) It is absolutely one of most fun gun to shoot. I can't find any mags online! I need more mags to feed this thing!

[Doc_Glock]

Nice. I am just pretty much in awe of the Garcia dot times. Of course that has nothing to do with the 44.

[CDFIII]

I really want one bad... I am fighting the flu at the moment but almost dug myself out of the house today to snag one until... I watched 3 separate videos of G44's cracking slides and shooting out of battery. Kind of got me a bit worried about purchasing one now. I had high hopes and was actually excited about the 44 until I watched these. I would post em up for you all but I am just to spent to hunt them down right now. I know Mac posted one video a guy sent him of it firing out of battery if that helps for now. Anyway I probably shouldn't be posting while I'm so full of meds;).

[JHC]

Fair question, and not exactly sure, but the trigger weight to total weight and grip size are less favorable than on my 17.

D1 to a low probability target and transitions - tasks without recoil control elements were discussed as possibly this pistol's training aide forte. Did you notice anything about those?

Good that your G17 recoil management didn't take a hit. Sunday I was shooting and super light .22 for about 50 rounds and afterward the first couple of runs with my G17 felt like I was shooting a .357 magnum. Had to real that back in. It was psychological of course.

[GJM]

D1 to a low probability target and transitions - tasks without recoil control elements were discussed as possibly this pistol's training aide forte. Did you notice anything about those?

Good that your G17 recoil management didn't take a hit. Sunday I was shooting and super light .22 for about 50 rounds and afterward the first couple of runs with my G17 felt like I was shooting a .357 magnum. Had to real that back in. It was psychological of course.

I wouldn’t over think this, I would just shoot it and see.

[AJLooch]

I'm up to 950 rounds through my 44 and still have yet to have a light strike or any FTE or FTF. I should say I almost never run the gun to slide lock, just leave a round in the chamber and replace mags. I also clean the the gun and re lubricate after every range session (last few have been 200 rounds per). After 550 I did replace the connector with a Lone Wolf 3.5 and Wolff Striker Safety Spring which did help me soften the extremely hard wall the trigger came to which I like more.

[JHC]

I wouldn’t over think this, I would just shoot it and see.

I might come across someone with one someday I guess. ;)

[AJLooch]

Forgot to mention but I have been shooting Aguila Super Extra almost exclusively and it is amazing for 3.5 cents a round delivered. Next range trip I may run my Surefire X300 and SLR Magwell to see if the weight of the light effects reliability or not and helps with feeling more like a "real" gun.

[LtDave]

Forgot to mention but I have been shooting Aguila Super Extra almost exclusively and it is amazing for 3.5 cents a round delivered. Next range trip I may run my Surefire X300 and SLR Magwell to see if the weight of the light effects reliability or not and helps with feeling more like a "real" gun.

Aguila Super Extra is the best kept secret in 22LR ammo. Accurate, reliable and cheap compared to CCI MiniMags. I have shot thousands of rounds and consider it a great alternative to MiniMag. When I test a new 22 with HV ammo, the first two rounds I test are MiniMags and Super Extra.

[GJM]

I installed a Glock OEM .200 x .140 front sight. This is five rounds at 12 and five at 22 yards.

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[GJM]

In terms of what is the Glock 44 for, based on my shooting yesterday and today, I believe it is accurate enough to practice shooting B8’s at 25 yards. Since I primarily practice with a red dot, I have started to work the 44 in at the end of my practice sessions to work on iron sight refam. Doesn’t hurt my hands, inexpensive to feed, and fun.


https://youtu.be/PsWWowJdkCA

[10mmfanboy]

That 22 plinkster guy on youtube already had a G44 kaboom.

[javemtr]

That 22 plinkster guy on youtube already had a G44 kaboom.
According to the guy that runs MilitaryArmsChannel, there are at least 4 independent reports of G44 either losing their extractor or having out of battery explosions or both. Also on his Instagram he posted something about significant wear on the striker sleeve (induced by the striker itself) after only about 3000 rounds.

[GJM]

I view it as a training tool not an heirloom purchase. Assuming nobody is getting hurt, I am not too concerned, as I am confident that Glock will fix or replace a broken 44. It is not like I haven’t broken a few red dots training.

[HJB]

Forgot to mention but I have been shooting Aguila Super Extra almost exclusively and it is amazing for 3.5 cents a round delivered. Next range trip I may run my Surefire X300 and SLR Magwell to see if the weight of the light effects reliability or not and helps with feeling more like a "real" gun.

What is the source to get Aguila Super Extra for 3.5 cents a round please ?

I would definitely like to give it a try.

[farscott]

What is the source to get Aguila Super Extra for 3.5 cents a round please ?

I would definitely like to give it a try.

Here it is for $0.036 per round. https://www.targetsportsusa.com/aguila-superextra-22-long-rifle-ammo-40-grain-high-velocity-plated-lead-round-nose-1b222328-p-3436.aspx

[farscott]

According to the guy that runs MilitaryArmsChannel, there are at least 4 independent reports of G44 either losing their extractor or having out of battery explosions or both. Also on his Instagram he posted something about significant wear on the striker sleeve (induced by the striker itself) after only about 3000 rounds.

Mine is at my LGS waiting for me to return from a trip. The reports of issues are not encouraging, especially as I already have two Advantage Arms kits, one for a G17.3 and one for a G17.4, that have many more rounds through them with no issues. I also have one for a Springfield XDM. It is not unusual for a brick of ammo to go through one of these in a weekend, especially if a bunch of shooting buddies get together.

[HJB]

Here it is for $0.036 per round. https://www.targetsportsusa.com/aguila-superextra-22-long-rifle-ammo-40-grain-high-velocity-plated-lead-round-nose-1b222328-p-3436.aspx

I thought when you said "landed" you meant with shipping. Shipping costs double the unit cost and that makes it over 6 cents per round.

Thanks.

[farscott]

I thought when you said "landed" you meant with shipping. Shipping costs double the unit cost and that makes it over 6 cents per round.

Thanks.

If you buy a case, shipping is included. It is $179.90 delivered for 5,000 rounds or $0.036 per round.

[HJB]

If you buy a case, shipping is included. It is $179.90 delivered for 5,000 rounds or $0.036 per round.

Thanks, but I don't want to buy that much until I have had a chance to give it a try. I will probably just go to Academy and buy a couple of hundred rounds to give it a try when I get my S&W 22 back and try it out before I would go off and buy 5000 rounds.

Thanks for the information. I have bought 9mm from that sight before so I am familiar with them. Thanks again.

[jandbj]

If you buy a case, shipping is included. It is $179.90 delivered for 5,000 rounds or $0.036 per round.

I already have 5k of these on hand and just picked up my G44.
They run great in a variety of my rimfires.
Hoping to run some this weekend through G44 & LCP 22. Will report back.

[farscott]

Thanks, but I don't want to buy that much until I have had a chance to give it a try. I will probably just go to Academy and buy a couple of hundred rounds to give it a try when I get my S&W 22 back and try it out before I would go off and buy 5000 rounds.

Thanks for the information. I have bought 9mm from that sight before so I am familiar with them. Thanks again.

If you have a shooting buddy or two, splitting a case is a great way to try new lots and new loads. I often split cases of ammo with a buddy. $90 for five bricks is a good deal if you split with one other person.

I do agree about buying a few fifty-round boxes before springing for a case. I was first exposed to Aguila Super Extra after Sandy Hook as the LGS got some. I bought a brick, liked it, and stared buying cases.

[HJB]

If you have a shooting buddy or two, splitting a case is a great way to try new lots and new loads. I often split cases of ammo with a buddy. $90 for five bricks is a good deal if you split with one other person.

I do agree about buying a few fifty-round boxes before springing for a case. I was first exposed to Aguila Super Extra after Sandy Hook as the LGS got some. I bought a brick, liked it, and stared buying cases.

I don't have a problem buying a case if I know it will shoot, but that is exactly the problem I was having with my 22 pistol, so I sent it back to S&W last week.

I just on-line ordered some from Academy for pick up and funny because they only have 2 boxes available at the store, so I just ordered them to give them a try. They also have a 40 grain lead tip version for the same price. You ever give that a try ?

Thanks

[farscott]

I don't have a problem buying a case if I know it will shoot, but that is exactly the problem I was having with my 22 pistol, so I sent it back to S&W last week.

I just on-line ordered some from Academy for pick up and funny because they only have 2 boxes available at the store, so I just ordered them to give them a try. They also have a 40 grain lead tip version for the same price. You ever give that a try ?

Thanks

I have tried an Aguila Super Extra 40-grain lead (no copper wash; wax lube) standard-velocity round. It is decent plinking ammo in pistols. Another budget round worth a try is the Armscor 36-grain high-velocity HP.

[HJB]

I have tried an Aguila Super Extra 40-grain lead (no copper wash; wax lube) standard-velocity round. It is decent plinking ammo in pistols. Another budget round worth a try is the Armscor 36-grain high-velocity HP.

OK thanks again. I expect my 22 pistol to probably be gone for a month or so to S&W. They say expect 4-6 weeks. I'm interested to see what they find and what they fix, if anything and then will start again down the ammo journey. But, I will definitely try the Aguila Super Extra that I have bought and if that will fire reliably, I will gladly buy a brick from TargetSports.

[HJB]

I already have 5k of these on hand and just picked up my G44.
They run great in a variety of my rimfires.
Hoping to run some this weekend through G44 & LCP 22. Will report back.

Thanks and looking forward to hearing back on how the G44 shoots and what your impressions are of it. Someone said on this or another forum that it felt "cheap" Maybe because it is so light with the plastic slide ?

Have you seen the videos of the "kaboom" on utube of a new G44 recently ? I sure would like to hear someone from Glock address that problem.

[flyrodr]

Anybody know if a red dot can be mounted on the G44's aluminum/polymer/whatever it's made of slide?

I'd sure like to duplicate, as far as possible, the size/dimensions/feel of a dot-mounted G19.

Thanks!

[JohnO]

As reported by my son who just got in from a range session with his Police Cadet Post.

The Cadets had a new G44 on the range tonight. The officer who brought it acted like he didn't trust the G44. My son said anyone shooting the G44 was put on the extreme right hand side of the indoor range. My son was specifically told this was a precaution if the extractor blew out.

He did not like the mushy trigger. Feeding from a full (10) magazine was problematic. Trouble getting the last few rounds to sit properly in the magazine.

One of the officers had a 17 frame with a .22 LR conversion upper. My son said he much preferred shooting the 17. Much better trigger on the 17.

A retired officer on the range with the cadets showed my son a cell phone picture of his G44 with a cracked slide after 10 rounds. The crack was from the ejection port to the rear sight. Already on the way back to Glock.

[STI]

Color me paranoid, but I’d take zero chance pulling the trigger on something that I thought might blow up in my hand. I was really close to buying one during release week too.

[BillSWPA]

I really want one of these but once again the wisdom of not being the first kid on the block with the new toy that just came out is demonstrated.

Any .22 I bring to the range is likely to be handed to my wife or my 12 year old daughter so they can shoot it. Having it blow up in one of their hands, or even having too many malfunctions, would likely dampen their enthusiasm for the next trip to the range.



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[jandbj]

Just back from the range. Shot 250 rounds of the Aguila super extra mini mag substitute rounds through the G44. Had a total of 4 light strikes... each fired with a second whack of the striker. No failures to feed, extract or eject. Also put 50ish rounds through an LCP2 22. Similar performance there... 1 light strike, no feeding, extraction, or ejection issues.

Sometime this weekend or Monday, I’ll run 50-100 of these through a MK3 22/45 and my S&W model 17. Those are 2 of my most vetted reliable rimfires. I’m mostly curious about the light strikes... firing pin indents from both these new guns look a tiny bit shallow. Maybe I’ll bring along the 43c with the centerfire mainspring as well.

[HJB]

Just back from the range. Shot 250 rounds of the Aguila super extra mini mag substitute rounds through the G44. Had a total of 4 light strikes... each fired with a second whack of the striker. No failures to feed, extract or eject. Also put 50ish rounds through an LCP2 22. Similar performance there... 1 light strike, no feeding, extraction, or ejection issues.

Sometime this weekend or Monday, I’ll run 50-100 of these through a MK3 22/45 and my S&W model 17. Those are 2 of my most vetted reliable rimfires. I’m mostly curious about the light strikes... firing pin indents from both these new guns look a tiny bit shallow. Maybe I’ll bring along the 43c with the centerfire mainspring as well.

Thanks for all of that report.

I have a question for you too if you don't mind. I have seen that the Glock 44 is OK to dry fire without snap caps. Can you explain what was said about that and how it does that without possible damage to the gun ?

[jandbj]

No inside knowledge on the design... my presumption on rimfires that are “safe to dry fire” is a precise measurement from firing pin to breechface... but I’m just guessing.

[GJM]

The complaints I have heard are:

The 44 is too expensive.

The 44 doesn’t come with a threaded barrel.

The 44 has occasional light strikes.

The 44 has some stoppages.

The 44 can be tricky to get the top cartridge or two in properly.

The 44 can kaboom.

Only the last one bothers me — if it kabooms and/ or cracks the slide, that will be a problem.

[BillSWPA]

The complaints I have heard are:

The 44 is too expensive.

The 44 doesn’t come with a threaded barrel.

The 44 has occasional light strikes.

The 44 has some stoppages.

The 44 can be tricky to get the top cartridge or two in properly.

The 44 can kaboom.

Only the last one bothers me — if it kabooms and/ or cracks the slide, that will be a problem.

The last 4 issues concern me, but I am confident that they will ultimately be addressed by Glock.



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[willie]

The .22 Rimfire is the world's most finicky round in the sense that failures to fire and feeding issues are frequently reported. Said another way, there is a high degree of variation from brand to brand and even within brands. Now that ammo has become vastly less expensive, it's safe to assume that QC effort has decreased with this caliber too.

[BillSWPA]

The .22 Rimfire is the world's most finicky round in the sense that failures to fire and feeding issues are frequently reported. Said another way, there is a high degree of variation from brand to brand and even within brands. Now that ammo has become vastly less expensive, it's safe to assume that QC effort has decreased with this caliber too.

My Browning Buck Mark will feed and fire bulk packaged Federal or Winchester with zero issues, or at worst close to zero issues.


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[Doc_Glock]

I impulse bought a G44 a couple days ago, shot today

I shot 576 rounds all in one session. 100 Minimags, 226 Golden Bullet, 150 Aguila Super Extra and ended with another 100 Minimags. I didn’t intend to shoot so much ammo, but it ran so well and I was having so much fun I couldn’t quit til the ammo was gone.

I generously oiled the Glock touch points with a few drops of Slip EWL prior to shooting I intended to add oil every couple hundred rounds but it never really slowed down so I let it roll.

I shot fairly fast and the gun got hot enough I could not touch the slide releases or disassembly latch for long. Zero problems except when using the Golden Bullet ammo. Honestly that stuff was garbage and very inconsistent in recoil. All the malfunctions were weak rounds that did not fully extract. 5/226 so around 2%. Zero stoppages with the CCI Minimags or Aguila Superextra.

I am very impressed with the gun and see zero need for my Advantage Arms .22 conversions any more. I have tried to get a lot of .22 pistols to run over the years and this one is amongst the best running. It runs circles around the conversions for reliability.


I did some 25 yard shooting and could keep the rounds on a B8 but it wasn’t blowing me away with accuracy or anything maybe 6-7” groups. May be a function of me and the sights more than the gun. Today was all about function testing and getting it hot and just seeing if it would run. I wish I had about thirty more mags!

I may have found my “old man gun” finally.



Ammunition:
200 CCI Minimag 40 grain FMJ
150 Aguila Super Extra 40 grain FMJ
226 Remington Golden Bullet


Stoppages:
1 Stovepipe: Golden Bullet.
4 FTExtract partial extraction. All weak rounds. All Remington Golden Bullet.
All cleared with a tap rack.

[echo5charlie]

Ran 100 rounds through mine so far, far from any real range report but I can say this is every bit of a .22 than any other semi.

50 rounds Winchester Wildcat, many low powered rounds caused stoppages.
50 rounds Remington Thunderbolt, better than the Winchester but still the occasional under powered round caused stoppages.

A common issue between both rounds were "feed ramp stoppages" common to .22 semis: sometimes the top round would jam into the bottom of the feed ramp area OR attempt to feed into the top of the chamber. (Edit to add: this was only encountered with a full magazine chambering the first round)

The only real head scratcher was when I performed a slide lock reload using the Rem TB in a full magazine: the top round being chambered was launched out of the pistol and downrange about 12 feet, the slide closing on an empty chamber. Never seen that before.

I am not overly impressed with the pistol (and I drink the Glock-Aid) and put it in line with the rest: it is a semi .22 and reliability sucks. I do love that the pistol gives me a Glock trigger and a cheap way to practice marksmanship.

[Jim Watson]

50 rounds Winchester Wildcat, many low powered rounds caused stoppages.
50 rounds Remington Thunderbolt, better than the Winchester but still the occasional under powered round caused stoppages.

it is a semi .22 and reliability sucks. .

For crying out loud, give it a chance with some good ammo.
The G44 a friend and I shot at the rental range was 100% on CCI SV.
My similar size Plastic M&P Compact is 100% on Minimags and once "broken in" on them is doing fine with CCI SV and Aquila HV and even some old stock Golden Bullets.
A guy I know is entirely happy with 1-2% failures on cheap ammo in his G44 because he doesn't want to pay for Minimags which he found to work all the time.

[echo5charlie]

For crying out loud, give it a chance with some good ammo.
The G44 a friend and I shot at the rental range was 100% on CCI SV.
My similar size Plastic M&P Compact is 100% on Minimags and once "broken in" on them is doing fine with CCI SV and Aquila HV and even some old stock Golden Bullets.
A guy I know is entirely happy with 1-2% failures on cheap ammo in his G44 because he doesn't want to pay for Minimags which he found to work all the time.

Meh. Not impressed. Not pissed either, it's actually what I expected. It is a semi .22 and as such can NEVER live up to centerfire Glock reliability. It's not a knock, it's a fact. Don't get me wrong, if it requires CCI MiniMags to attain near-100% reliabilty I will run that. It's a .22, sometime that's what you have to do.

"The G44 was thoroughly tested with a wide variety of ammunition to ensure maximum performance and redefine what small can do." - Glock

If the G44 will require MiniMags to keep that near-100% reliability then Glock has not redefined anything, they just hit the status quo for semi auto .22s.

[revchuck38]

Dang, all those seasons I shot NRA Conventional Pistol and UIT Sport Pistol with my Ruger MKII with 100% reliability, and the folks I shot with using S&W M41s, old High Standards, Walthers, Pardinis and such with the same results...to think we were doing it wrong. Gosh.

[Balisong]

Dang, all those seasons I shot NRA Conventional Pistol and UIT Sport Pistol with my Ruger MKII with 100% reliability, and the folks I shot with using S&W M41s, old High Standards, Walthers, Pardinis and such with the same results...to think we were doing it wrong. Gosh.

Never mind all that. Weren't you paying attention? Glock says these are legendary.

[Doc_Glock]

Dang, all those seasons I shot NRA Conventional Pistol and UIT Sport Pistol with my Ruger MKII with 100% reliability, and the folks I shot with using S&W M41s, old High Standards, Walthers, Pardinis and such with the same results...to think we were doing it wrong. Gosh.

To be fair, my semi auto .22 experience so far is:

Two Advantage Arms Glock conversion. Run kinda okay with quality ammo and lots of oil.

Beretta Bobcat: never could get better than 95-97% reliable no matter the ammo or cleanliness.

Beretta 92 conversion: pretty reliable.

M&P compact: problematic then reliable after a trip to the factory.

[Doc_Glock]

I got out to the range today to dial in the sights and test the gun with a larger variety of ammo. 415 more rounds for a total of 1100 since I oiled it or cleaned it.

Shot a box of each of the below plus some more Aguila SuperExtra plated round nose.

Fiocchi 40 grain SV LRN
Winchester Match 40 grain SV T22 LRN
Federal Match 40 grain SV LRN
Armscor 40 grain SV LRN
CCI Velocitor 40 grain plated HP 1435 FPS
CCI Stinger 32 grain plated HP 1640 FPS

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All ran great.

I had two light strikes with the Aguila that fired second hit. And one fail to lock back on empty with Armscor.

The rear sight needs to be dialed all the way down for 25 yard zero and I had to hold at bottom of black on a B8.

Best group was 3.5” with the CCI Velocitors.

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Most groups were 5” which is probably me.

The Stingers and Velocitors are markedly hotter than the other loads.

I have rarely been as happy with a firearm purchase. It lets me shoot a lot for cheap and doesn’t beat me up.

[GJM]

The 44 can be summed up as cheap to shoot, easy on your hands, with a Glock trigger and form factor. Lots of .22’s do the cheap and easy thing, not too many the Glock trigger and form factor.

[deflave]

Thanks to all for providing reports.

Great info. Great thread.

[HJB]

For crying out loud, give it a chance with some good ammo.

The problem is that Glock touted it as a totally reliable 22 with pretty much all kinds of ammo. I already have a S&W 22 compact that will shoot CCI mini mags but wont shoot much else worth a darn. So, I don't need another 22 to shoot CCI, I want something that is reliable with Federal bulk ammo or Blazer Brass.

Glock should not have staked its reputation on a 22 semi-auto if it could not deliver.

[Doc_Glock]

The problem is that Glock touted it as a totally reliable 22 with pretty much all kinds of ammo. I already have a S&W 22 compact that will shoot CCI mini mags but wont shoot much else worth a darn. So, I don't need another 22 to shoot CCI, I want something that is reliable with Federal bulk ammo or Blazer Brass.

Glock should not have staked its reputation on a 22 semi-auto if it could not deliver.

Here is what Glock says in the owners manual which may be different from their marketing claims. I didn't pay attention to the marketing so I may have missed something:

"The GLOCK 44 is designed to work with a variety of quality 22 l.r. ammunition
that is manufactured to SAAMI and/or CIP specifications. GLOCK recognizes that some
22 l.r. ammunition offerings may not produce sufficient energy to fully cycle the slide.
GLOCK also recognizes that the quality of 22 l.r. ammunition varies greatly between
different types and brands. Therefore, it is recommended that you test fire several fully
loaded magazines using your preferred ammunition to ensure optimum performance."

So far in my testing it is pretty reliable with eight different types and brands of quality .22 ammunition and spotty with one low quality type. I haven't tried Federal Bulk or Blazer Brass.

[HJB]

Here is what Glock says in the owners manual which may be different from their marketing claims. I didn't pay attention to the marketing so I may have missed something:

"The GLOCK 44 is designed to work with a variety of quality 22 l.r. ammunition
that is manufactured to SAAMI and/or CIP specifications. GLOCK recognizes that some
22 l.r. ammunition offerings may not produce sufficient energy to fully cycle the slide.
GLOCK also recognizes that the quality of 22 l.r. ammunition varies greatly between
different types and brands. Therefore, it is recommended that you test fire several fully
loaded magazines using your preferred ammunition to ensure optimum performance."

So far in my testing it is pretty reliable with eight different types and brands of quality .22 ammunition and spotty with one low quality type. I haven't tried Federal Bulk or Blazer Brass.

Here is what Glock says....

"The G44 was thoroughly tested with a wide variety of ammunition to ensure maximum performance and redefine what small can do." - Glock

I certainly would have expected it to perform with an ammo as well known and popular as Federal and Winchester bulk pack 22 ammunition.....

[GJM]

Here is what Glock says....

"The G44 was thoroughly tested with a wide variety of ammunition to ensure maximum performance and redefine what small can do." - Glock

I certainly would have expected it to perform with an ammo as well known and popular as Federal and Winchester bulk pack 22 ammunition.....

Not sure about this — my multiple 10-22 rifles are very finicky about what ammo they run with. At the Rogers School, for example, they had to run CCI AR Tactical ammo to get their M&P .22 pistols to run reliably enough to be used in class. They went to the M&P because they couldn’t make their Glock conversion .22 pistols run reliably enough to not detract from class.

[BillSWPA]

Having shot many boxes of Federal and Winchester bulk packs through my Buck Mark, I would not consider either to be low quality ammo. Remington has not worked as well.



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[deflave]

The problem is that Glock touted it as a totally reliable 22 with pretty much all kinds of ammo. I already have a S&W 22 compact that will shoot CCI mini mags but wont shoot much else worth a darn. So, I don't need another 22 to shoot CCI, I want something that is reliable with Federal bulk ammo or Blazer Brass.

Glock should not have staked its reputation on a 22 semi-auto if it could not deliver.

Get a Buckmark.

[BillSWPA]

Get a Buckmark.

I own a BuckMark and am still planning to purchase a G44.

[Wayne Dobbs]

First the impeachment, then coronavirus, and the ongoing TTI soap operascandal. Now Glock ruins their sterling reputation by releasing a .22 LR pistol that doesn’t run every variety of rejectbargain .22 ammo available. I don’t think I can take any more bad news. Calgon, take me away!


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Don't forget the lotion for the sand in tender areas, Tom.

I finally found that shooting bargain/junk ammo was not saving money because it wastes my time. I don't do it in any firearm now and given the small price difference between quality .22 ammo and junk, it's crazy to waste time. The fact that any rimfire system works well in semiauto is a near miracle given the inherent design problems of the round: wobbly/soft bullets, long for caliber length, rimmed design and the priming distribution issues in that rim. Just buy the good stuff and go have fun with the gun.

I did note when I shot the pistol at Glock back in December, they used CCI Mini Mags.

[HJB]

Don't forget the lotion for the sand in tender areas, Tom.

I finally found that shooting bargain/junk ammo was not saving money because it wastes my time. I don't do it in any firearm now and given the small price difference between quality .22 ammo and junk, it's crazy to waste time. The fact that any rimfire system works well in semiauto is a near miracle given the inherent design problems of the round: wobbly/soft bullets, long for caliber length, rimmed design and the priming distribution issues in that rim. Just buy the good stuff and go have fun with the gun.

I did note when I shot the pistol at Glock back in December, they used CCI Mini Mags.

If they had touted it with "it's a great 22 semi-automatic that is reliable if you only shoot the most expensive 22 lr ammo available on the market."

But they didn't ! They touted it like it would pretty much shoot anything ! And it doesn't !

I already got a 22 that shoots CCI mini mags, I was looking for one that would shoot bulk ammo.

[wlktheduk]

Glock 44 purchased 1/30/2020 Serial # prefix ADUH
Primary use: GSSF Rimfire division
Modifications: Pearce Grip Plug

1,450 total rounds fired to date
400 CCI MiniMags, (40 grain CPRN) 1 failure to pickup and chamber round from magazine during string of fire
400 Federal Champion #510 (40 grain LRN) 1 Failure to Fire, 1 Failure to Eject
410 Federal AutoMatch #AM22 (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=AM22) (40 grain LRN) 1 Failure to Fire
120 CCI Standard Velocity (40 grain LRN) 2 Failure to Eject
120 Remington Golden Bullet (36 grain HP) 2 Failure to Fire

Total Stoppages:
4 Failure to Fire (ALL fired after being rechambered)
3 Failure to Eject
1 failure to pickup and chamber round from magazine during string of fire.

7 indoor range sessions, including 1 GSSF Indoor Match (GSSF Alternative CoF Option "A")
Cleaned and lubed after each range session, magazines (10) loaded as shown on page 12 of the instruction booklet provided with the gun

Accuracy: as always, that depends on the Loose Nut Behind The Trigger.
Targets used were either Bianchi D1's (for GSSF) or B8 bullseyes.
Distances from 5 to 25 yards (maximum range indoors)
With my wife spotting, after I figured out the hold, it was able to put 10 rounds each of the CCI MiniMags, and both Federal loads, into the 9/10 ring of the B8 at 25 yards, very slow and deliberate fire
Shooting the GSSF CoF, with 10 round strings in 15 seconds at 5,7,10,15 and 25 yards, it is capable of keeping all 50 rounds into the 8 ring of the Bianchi D1. I AM NOT CAPABLE of that accuracy on demand, kept pulling shots out into the 5 rings. But the overall group size could fit into the 8 ring, IF I do my part ;)

Other Notes: Primary users are my wife and adult daughter. Both are experienced GSSF shooters, using Gen5 and Gen4 Glock 17's respectively. Both want the front sight changed to a fiber optic of the type they are using on their G17's. Both felt the trigger was typical Gen5 Glock. The light weight took some getting used too (about 1/2 the weight of their G17's)

As always, YMMV, but so far this example has done well, for our intended use.
Mike

[Duelist]

If they had touted it with "it's a great 22 semi-automatic that is reliable if you only shoot the most expensive 22 lr ammo available on the market."

But they didn't ! They touted it like it would pretty much shoot anything ! And it doesn't !

I already got a 22 that shoots CCI mini mags, I was looking for one that would shoot bulk ammo.

Are you saying that it only runs on Eley and Lapua? Because you said it only runs on the most expensive ammunition on the market. CCI Green Tag is more expensive than Mini Mags, as are a number of other offerings I haven’t seen tested in this thread.

[HJB]

Are you saying that it only runs on Eley and Lapua? Because you said it only runs on the most expensive ammunition on the market. CCI Green Tag is more expensive than Mini Mags, as are a number of other offerings I haven’t seen tested in this thread.

I think you get my point. If you want to nit-pick what I said fine, but the message is clear to most on here, and since I expressly mentioned CCI mini mag I think you know exactly what ammo I was referring to.

But thanks for pointing out that my statement was technically incorrect.

[ST911]

Bulk pack rimfire from the bigs is no better than "okay" ammo. Nice if a gun runs it, and many do, but I don't expect it.

[Wayne Dobbs]

So I took my new G-44 on a range trip today to a large Dallas area PD's range. The two guys there are still waiting on theirs and were fired up to shoot mine. They had a huge stash of different brands of .22 LR ammo, most of it citizen turn in ammo. If you've ever been on the desk at a PD, it's a frequent event for usually an older lady to come in and say her husband, the shooter, has gone to the great sky range and she wants to "turn in" his guns and/or ammo. (We had trained desk folks to NEVER get a property tag before several of us had the chance to come down and look over what was available and to buy anything viable from the grieving widow). Based on packaging, some of this ammo was 40 plus years old, so I knew we would find out quickly about my new G-44.

We fired CCI Mini Mag, Winchester Wildcat (cheap WalMart ammo), Winchester Ace (70s vintage), Remington Standard Velocity, Winchester HV HP and a gob of unknown loose stuff in boxes. I even found some that was stuck together in clumps of rounds. Broke them free and loaded the mags with that, too.

400ish rounds later and had one fail to fire Mini Mag (fired on second try) and one feedway stoppage which resulted after a clearly underpowered round right before failed to run the slide adequately to provide proper function. I even ran the 1911 extractor isolation test (chambered round with no magazine) and got a clean 10/10 pass. Basically, this pistol gobbled up ammo like a Texas feral hog (whose type will eat virtually anything). I'm going to detail strip it, clean and lube it and start doing some 25 yard ammo testing and zeroing for an upcoming GSSF match with the new .22 class.

It's a keeper...

[RJ]

Crap. Now I want a Glock 44.

[flyrodr]

Crap. Now I want a Glock 44.

As do I. But think I'll hold off a while, hoping Glock brings out a MOS version.

As an aside, my last two range trips I took my RMR-equipped M&P .22 (the original one) to the range. Both times, and without looking closely, I grabbed some old, and mismatched boxes of .22 ammo out of the safe (working on cleaning out the "leftovers").

This gun usually functions virtually 100% with high-velocity .22 ammo. On the first of the above trips, it wasn't, hardly ejecting any of the rounds, so I looked a bit more closely at the box. It was subsonic suppressor ammo. Interestingly, that ammo works well in my "squirrel guy", a Ruger .22/.45 with suppressor mounted.

The second trip (clearly, I didn't learn from the first), I grabbed more miscellaneous ammo. I opened the first 50-rd box, and it was rat shot, the old version with the long, crimped brass cases. It was 100% - - - 100% of it not ejecting. I switched to some bulk .22 from a box store. It ran "better", about 70%. Went back to CCI Mini Mags, which ran 100%.

Bring on the MOS G44, please Glock!

[BillSWPA]

So I took my new G-44 on a range trip today to a large Dallas area PD's range. The two guys there are still waiting on theirs and were fired up to shoot mine. They had a huge stash of different brands of .22 LR ammo, most of it citizen turn in ammo. If you've ever been on the desk at a PD, it's a frequent event for usually an older lady to come in and say her husband, the shooter, has gone to the great sky range and she wants to "turn in" his guns and/or ammo. (We had trained desk folks to NEVER get a property tag before several of us had the chance to come down and look over what was available and to buy anything viable from the grieving widow). Based on packaging, some of this ammo was 40 plus years old, so I knew we would find out quickly about my new G-44.

We fired CCI Mini Mag, Winchester Wildcat (cheap WalMart ammo), Winchester Ace (70s vintage), Remington Standard Velocity, Winchester HV HP and a gob of unknown loose stuff in boxes. I even found some that was stuck together in clumps of rounds. Broke them free and loaded the mags with that, too.

400ish rounds later and had one fail to fire Mini Mag (fired on second try) and one feedway stoppage which resulted after a clearly underpowered round right before failed to run the slide adequately to provide proper function. I even ran the 1911 extractor isolation test (chambered round with no magazine) and got a clean 10/10 pass. Basically, this pistol gobbled up ammo like a Texas feral hog (whose type will eat virtually anything). I'm going to detail strip it, clean and lube it and start doing some 25 yard ammo testing and zeroing for an upcoming GSSF match with the new .22 class.

It's a keeper...

Glad to hear about both the good range report and that your people found a way to do right by the grieving widows while getting the guns into good hands.



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[HTM]

As do I. But think I'll hold off a while, hoping Glock brings out a MOS version.

Bring on the MOS G44, please Glock!

You aren't serious I hope. What makes you think a RDS will run on a G44?

[flyrodr]

You aren't serious I hope. What makes you think a RDS will run on a G44?

I have no idea if it will or not as is, or whether it would with minimal mods by Glock or another. But then, why not? My Walther-made M&P .22 has a non-ferrous slide, and as with the G44's "hybrid steel-polymer slide", I presume that's for weight reduction needed to cycle with .22s. And, although it was not designed for a red dot, the S&W works fine with the added one-ounce-plus weight of an RMR (thank you Mark Housel), at least with hi-vel loadings like MiniMags. No idea if the G44 slide, as is or with some mods, can hold a dot securely.

One would think if Glock built the G44 to more/less G19 dimensions, there was some thought to it being used as a low cost trainer. And if Glock is working to be active in the red dot-equipped pistol market, is it too far a stretch to think the G44 could be modified to work with a dot? I would have expected Glock to have at least considered that pathway in designing the G44. So if sales of the standard G44 meet some threshold, perhaps a MOS versions isn't unreasonable.

I can hope . . .

[Wayne Dobbs]

Bring on the MOS G44, please Glock!

I don't think you'll see that happen. They used a polymer/steel "laminate" slide to get the slide light enough for reliable function. To then add 3 - 3.5 or so ounces to that slide with an MOS plate and optic will virtually guarantee the gun won't work properly. And since the slide is polymer for most of its mass and totally so on top, I doubt Glock is going to start screwing things into polymer.

[flyrodr]

I don't think you'll see that happen.

You guys crush an old man's hopes . . . ;~)

[O4L]

You guys crush an old man's hopes . . . ;~)Yeah...I know a guy that bought two of these and and they would not cycle standard velocity ammo after switching to a rear sight that weighed one third of an ounce more than the factory sight.

[deflave]

Yeah...I know a guy that bought two of these and and they would not cycle standard velocity ammo after switching to a rear sight that weighed one third of an ounce more than the factory sight.

Which rear sight did he add and which ammo was he using?

[HJB]

Bulk pack rimfire from the bigs is no better than "okay" ammo. Nice if a gun runs it, and many do, but I don't expect it.
Well, since Glock claimed that it did and that it would....I do expect it !

[farscott]

This gun usually functions virtually 100% with high-velocity .22 ammo. On the first of the above trips, it wasn't, hardly ejecting any of the rounds, so I looked a bit more closely at the box. It was subsonic suppressor ammo. Interestingly, that ammo works well in my "squirrel guy", a Ruger .22/.45 with suppressor mounted.

My experience with suppressed rimfires is that rounds that will not properly cycle without the suppressor often will cycle with the suppressor. I am not sure if the extra gas pressure is the reason, but it works.

Another round I like to use with any .22 LR auto is the Gemtech Subsonic ammo; it uses a 42-grain LRN and is loaded by CCI. It has run in just about every firearm, suppressed or not, I have tried and is great on small game.

[RJ]

So there have been a few reports now...very useful, thanks.

Relative to the ‘feel’ of a Gen 4 or Gen 5 Glock 19, how close would you say the Glock 44 trigger press is?

Maybe on a 1 (nothing like a 19) to 10 (can’t tell the difference) scale?

Obviously this is not a question on recoil. Trying to get an idea of how useful a G44 would be as a “live fire training aid”, I guess I would call it.

Thanks!

[flyrodr]

Relative to the ‘feel’ of a Gen 4 or Gen 5 Glock 19, how close would you say the Glock 44 trigger press is?


Based on n=1, and with just a very few pulls, a G44 I tried at a local shop is considerably heavier, or at least felt that way. Caveats: I'd just been shooting a G19.5 with an Apex D/C trigger, and at least a couple of thousand rounds through it. The G44 felt the same dimensionally, but with its lighter weight and newish (heavy) trigger. Hate to try and quantify it, but I'd say a 5 or less. If the pull was a bit lighter/smoother, and other than the overall weight difference, they'd be close, i.e., a pretty good trainer in .22.

And I just got an email in the last day or two that Apex was offering triggers for the G44. Found it, saying: "When properly installed and lubricated, the kit will give you an approx. pull weight in the range of 5.5 to 6.0 lbs., which is due to the heavier striker spring in the .22 caliber model."

My 19.5 with the Apex trigger reads about 4.5 lbs on my Lyman scale, but I think it consistently reads about 0.5 - 1.0 lbs light.

Going back to my earlier post, I'd be all over a G44, if I could red dot it like my G19. But Wayne burst my bubble . . .

[flyrodr]

My experience with suppressed rimfires is that rounds that will not properly cycle without the suppressor often will cycle with the suppressor. I am not sure if the extra gas pressure is the reason, but it works.

Another round I like to use with any .22 LR auto is the Gemtech Subsonic ammo; it uses a 42-grain LRN and is loaded by CCI. It has run in just about every firearm, suppressed or not, I have tried and is great on small game.

Thanks very much!

[sqeeler]

Well i'm pushing 8,000 rds on my new G44 between myself, wife and daughter training, testing and just having some plain old fun. Have run everything I could get my hands on including federal, winchester and remington bulkpack, 36 and 40gr mini mags and stingers.

My personal 44 tends to print between 2-5 inches high depending on range, have benched it at 20 yds and seems to shoot more point of aim with rem golden bullets and 40gr mini mags. Reliability wise mine has been absolutely phenomenal. Day of purchase we ran a brick of Fed 36gr hp, had a couple malfunctions which I found were attributed to the magazine. I figured out if you smack the back of the mag a couple times in the palm of your hand seems to settle things in for better reliability, definitely hope this gets some attention as well as some higher capacity mags soon. After the first range session of a little over 600 rds brought the 44 home and stripped and lubed the 44 with slip2000ewl and haven't cleaned it since as I was curious as to what this thing was capable of.

I have lubricated the pistol aprrox. every 1000-1,500 rds with slip, but am going for the 10,000 rd mark by the end of the month. I do think that for once I have been blessed with getting a good gun at launch as I usually end up with getting the lemon in the bunch. I will try and keep everyone posted on the ongoing test on the pistol and mags during the test. I am only using 2 dedicated mags for the range and managed to pick up 4 extra in case one fails.

On a side note the Winchester bulk pack stuff has been horrendous as far as the amount of bad rds per brick, tried both the lead and copper coat, and I know I will NOT be buying anymore of that ammo unless it is the only thing on the shelf, averaging around 2-6 rds per 100 that are just dud rounds. I have had great success with the Rem 36gr golden bullet in the bulk buckets of 1,400, have shot 3 of these buckets so far and haven't had a single bad round.

[sqeeler]

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[deflave]

Well i'm pushing 8,000 rds on my new G44 between myself, wife and daughter training, testing and just having some plain old fun. Have run everything I could get my hands on including federal, winchester and remington bulkpack, 36 and 40gr mini mags and stingers.

My personal 44 tends to print between 2-5 inches high depending on range, have benched it at 20 yds and seems to shoot more point of aim with rem golden bullets and 40gr mini mags. Reliability wise mine has been absolutely phenomenal. Day of purchase we ran a brick of Fed 36gr hp, had a couple malfunctions which I found were attributed to the magazine. I figured out if you smack the back of the mag a couple times in the palm of your hand seems to settle things in for better reliability, definitely hope this gets some attention as well as some higher capacity mags soon. After the first range session of a little over 600 rds brought the 44 home and stripped and lubed the 44 with slip2000ewl and haven't cleaned it since as I was curious as to what this thing was capable of.

I have lubricated the pistol aprrox. every 1000-1,500 rds with slip, but am going for the 10,000 rd mark by the end of the month. I do think that for once I have been blessed with getting a good gun at launch as I usually end up with getting the lemon in the bunch. I will try and keep everyone posted on the ongoing test on the pistol and mags during the test. I am only using 2 dedicated mags for the range and managed to pick up 4 extra in case one fails.

On a side note the Winchester bulk pack stuff has been horrendous as far as the amount of bad rds per brick, tried both the lead and copper coat, and I know I will NOT be buying anymore of that ammo unless it is the only thing on the shelf, averaging around 2-6 rds per 100 that are just dud rounds. I have had great success with the Rem 36gr golden bullet in the bulk buckets of 1,400, have shot 3 of these buckets so far and haven't had a single bad round.

Damn! That's a review.

Thanks for posting.

[deflave]

I'm not as scientific as a lot of you guys. I picked mine up a few days ago and just got to shooting it today.

Running CCI Mini-mags (both the standard round nose and the "choot 'em" stuff) I put 150 rounds through the two mags it came with and had zero hiccups.

I didn't clean it and I didn't lube it (that's what she said).

I was bouncing these from the 5yd line to the 35yd line with a six o'clock hold. I'm gonna color it good.

https://i.imgur.com/jfryZJ9.jpg

[deflave]

So there have been a few reports now...very useful, thanks.

Relative to the ‘feel’ of a Gen 4 or Gen 5 Glock 19, how close would you say the Glock 44 trigger press is?

Maybe on a 1 (nothing like a 19) to 10 (can’t tell the difference) scale?

Obviously this is not a question on recoil. Trying to get an idea of how useful a G44 would be as a “live fire training aid”, I guess I would call it.

Thanks!

10.

[HCM]

Picked up a Glock 44 And got to shoot it this past Tuesday at lunchtime.

Ran about 300 rounds, 100 of mini mags, 100 Aguila “super e tea” (Mexican Minimags) and 100 or so Federal auto match. Had one failure to feed with federal automatch on aslide lock reload. No other issues. Kept everything in an 8” shoot n see at 25 yards.

It hit a little high at distance. I will likely throw on a fiber optic front sight and black out the factory adjustable rear. In his review, Hilton Yam mentioned his G44 hit POA/Poi with a .235 height front usually used on a G34/35 vs the standard .215.

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25 yards with a 6 o’clock hold.

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Ps- RJ trigger feels just like a stock Gen 4 Glock trigger.

[GJM]

I put a Bold .200 x .140 front sight on my 44 and it regulates well. My 44 was running good, and then couldn’t get through a magazine without a stoppage, using CCI 40 round nose mini mags. I ran a bore snake through it, lubed it, and now it is running great again.

[Doc_Glock]

So there have been a few reports now...very useful, thanks.

Relative to the ‘feel’ of a Gen 4 or Gen 5 Glock 19, how close would you say the Glock 44 trigger press is?

Maybe on a 1 (nothing like a 19) to 10 (can’t tell the difference) scale?

Obviously this is not a question on recoil. Trying to get an idea of how useful a G44 would be as a “live fire training aid”, I guess I would call it.

Thanks!

The G44 trigger is identical but 6-6.5lbs in weight.

[GJM]

The G44 trigger is identical but 6-6.5lbs in weight.

I find the lighter weight of the 44 makes the trigger feel heavier than a 19.

[Doc_Glock]

Pistol: Glock G44


Caliber: .22


Ammunition:

700 CCI Minimag 40 grain HV plated round nose.
615 Aguila Super Extra 40 grain HV plated round nose
226 Remington Golden Bullet
Fiocchi 40 grain SV LRN
Winchester Match 40 grain SV T22 LRN
Federal Match 40 grain SV LRN
Armscor 40 grain SV LRN
CCI Velocitor 40 grain plated HP 1435 FPS
CCI Stinger 32 grain plated HP 1640 FPS


Dates of testing: 2/2020


Total rounds fired: 2000


Stoppages:
1 Stovepipe
4 FTExtract partial extraction. All weak rounds. All Remington Golden Bullet.
2 light strikes Aguila
1 FTLBE Armscor


Malfunctions: 0


Breakages: 0
I can’t say much bad about this gun. I consider it one of the best firearm purchases I have ever made. It has had zero stoppages of any kind in the final 1000 rounds of this test. It’s a keeper.

I installed a .205” tall Dawson fiber up front. With that and the rear clicked up two clicks from full low it is tip of front sight at 25 yards and drive the dot at 5 yards with Minimags.

The lack of recoil and ability to shoot a lot of round in a session is allowing me to see subtleties in my technique that are usually masked by recoil. I think it it making me a better shooter. I wish I had 50 mags for it.

I think the reliability has been stellar and it way exceeded my expectations in this regard.

[Doc_Glock]

I find the lighter weight of the 44 makes the trigger feel heavier than a 19.

My minus connector G19 has a 4# trigger.
G44 has a 6# trigger.

The G44 trigger doesn’t just feel heavier, it is heavier.

[cornstalker]

I put a Bold .200 x .140 front sight on my 44 and it regulates well. My 44 was running good, and then couldn’t get through a magazine without a stoppage, using CCI 40 round nose mini mags. I ran a bore snake through it, lubed it, and now it is running great again.

Do you have a ballpark on the round count it took to plug it up?

[Doc_Glock]

I weighed the G44, here it is in comparison to a few other guns:

LCR .22 15.7oz loaded with 8x40 grain
LCR .38 16.2oz loaded with 5x158 grain
G44 .22 16.2oz loaded with 11 Velocitors
G42 16.3oz loaded with 7x90 grain
S&W 642 17.1 oz Airweight 5x.38 158gr

Unloaded weight is identical to a LCR .22.

I am not saying a .22 is a best choice for a defensive handgun. However, the G44 is by far the most shootable of any of the guns in its weight class. Given its reliability in my hands I would recommend it for a weaker, or recoil sensitive shooter provided they vet it.

[GJM]

Do you have a ballpark on the round count it took to plug it up?

Something over 1,000 rounds. Took just two passes of a bore snake and a dab of lube and it was back in action.

[TWR]

I got a 44 on Thursday, had a Steel Challenge match this morning but before it started I ran 20 rounds of CCI Mini mags through it. The first mag showed me what would happen if you don't load it right. Fixing that, the gun ran fine with a 6:00 hold. After the match I shot 55 more rounds of Mini mags without issue. Shot 100 rounds of CCI SV without issue, 100 rounds of CCI Blazer and 100 rounds of Federal bulk patch 36 grain Wal-Mart ammo. The Federal had one dud that had a good indention, not a light strike. Then a buddy tried Remington Golden bullets and had one round fail to feed, probably not loaded right, the other 99 fed fine.

So that's 475 rounds and so far it's as reliable as any other 22 I've ever had. Feed it what it likes and it'll shoot.

We also shot a 10" plate at 50 yards offhand that made everyone smile. It's just so easy to shoot, I love this thing.

[GJM]

I found this holster this afternoon in a box of old holsters. I got it years ago from Bill Rogers, and believe it was part of an initial run he did for a military unit. It fits a direct milled 17 for an RMR, with the rear sight in front of the optic, but not the MOS slides I have.

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[littlejerry]

Based on this thread I placed an order today for a new G44. A little searching yielded one for $370 OTD.

I plan to use the G44 and my 15-22 to increase my practice this year. The lower cost and low noise will allow me to run more drills on our hunting property.

[GJM]

I found this holster this afternoon in a box of old holsters. I got it years ago from Bill Rogers, and believe it was part of an initial run he did for a military unit. It fits a direct milled 17 for an RMR, with the rear sight in front of the optic, but not the MOS slides I have.

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Darn, no wonder this didn’t make the red dot holster thread, I put it in the G44 thread by mistake!

[TWR]

I don't post much here but I've been following for a few years now, after reading your response, I thought I had posted in the wrong thread.

[HCM]

For those complaining about quality 22 ammo being “too expensive” Brownells has Aguila Super Extra, a mini mag equivalent) on sale for $.04 per round.

If you buy 8 bricks and use code TAG it is $.0365 per round shipped.

This stuff has run in very “mini mags only” .22 rifle, pistol and conversion kit I have tried it in.

https://www.brownells.com/ammunition/rimfire-ammo/22-long-rifle-40gr-copper-plated-round-nose-500-box-sku105000615-82595-176178.aspx?sku=105000615&avad=avant&aid=152894&cm_mmc=affiliate-_-Itwine-_-Avantlink-_-Custom+Link&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=Avantlink&utm_content=NA&utm_campaign=Itwine

[Doc_Glock]

For those complaining about quality 22 ammo being “too expensive” Brownells has Aguila Super Extra, a mini mag equivalent) on sale for $.04 per round.

If you buy 8 bricks and use code TAG it is $.0365 per round shipped.

This stuff has run in very “mini mags only” .22 rifle, pistol and conversion kit I have tried it in.

https://www.brownells.com/ammunition/rimfire-ammo/22-long-rifle-40gr-copper-plated-round-nose-500-box-sku105000615-82595-176178.aspx?sku=105000615&avad=avant&aid=152894&cm_mmc=affiliate-_-Itwine-_-Avantlink-_-Custom+Link&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=Avantlink&utm_content=NA&utm_campaign=Itwine


Someone called it the Mexican Minimag, and I have to agree that is a fair assessment.

[HCM]

Someone called it the Mexican Minimag, and I have to agree that is a fair assessment.

Might have been me. I agree with your assessment.

[flyrodr]

For those complaining about quality 22 ammo being “too expensive” Brownells has Aguila Super Extra, a mini mag equivalent) on sale for $.04 per round.

Thanks. Ordered some!

[deflave]

After doing drills with my 34 yesterday I just dropped in the 44 and mags, easy-peasy. 200 more issue free rounds. Very happy with it.

https://i.imgur.com/UZ81Wa6.jpg

[sqeeler]

Well I only have a little time tonight and will try and give better info shortly but to summarize, I have hit the 10,000 rd mark and will be adding an additional 500-1000 tomorrow with the Mrs. and daughter tomorrow, tried to get some pictures where I could and did make a trip to my closest Glockmeister and had an extended ambi slide stop/release installed and a new striker/firing pin spring installed.

I will try my best to keep updating as the ladies in my life seem hell bent on running this new G44 into the ground, LoL.

Wish everyone well and God Bless.

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[deflave]

Well I only have a little time tonight and will try and give better info shortly but to summarize, I have hit the 10,000 rd mark and will be adding an additional 500-1000 tomorrow with the Mrs. and daughter tomorrow, tried to get some pictures where I could and did make a trip to my closest Glockmeister and had an extended ambi slide stop/release installed and a new striker/firing pin spring installed.

I will try my best to keep updating as the ladies in my life seem hell bent on running this new G44 into the ground, LoL.

Wish everyone well and God Bless.

Did the slide blow up?

[sqeeler]

Did the slide blow up?

No, It did not, actually it is doing very well getting ready to go out here in just a couple hours. I am
going to try and get some more pictures for posting if possible.

[deflave]

No, It did not, actually it is doing very well getting ready to go out here in just a couple hours. I am
going to try and get some more pictures for posting if possible.

Shit. Sound like more winning.

[Doc_Glock]

After lubricating my G44 I put another 400 Mexican Minimags through it. 1 FTE first magazine then it ran fine. I have seen this “fail to extract issue on initial mags issue” with the conversion kits and other .22 guns as well. The gun must get a little sticky when cold. Does not give me confidence as a carry gun that is shot little, and needed cold.

The trigger was getting grungy so I did a complete detail strip and cleaning which let me look at internals a bit.

G44 is a very clever gun. It is blowback. A plastic "locking" block that just stops barrel. Barrel only moves a couple mm.

Decent parts commonality with other Gen 5 guns and very easy to detail strip. Appears to take all Glock Connectors but I left the dot in for now. Would be interesting to see if a minus lights off 22 reliably.

Very dirty after 2400 but the firing pin channel was still pretty clean. Breech face awful but it was running.

They did a good job on this IMO. Many less friction points than the conversion kits.

The magazine design is very nice and handy for loading with the little tabs. I have not felt the need for a loader at all.

The bottom of the mag is near impossible to remove like all Glocks.

On reassembly I went light on lube just doing the dot to various places thing Glock recommends.

[TWR]

Had a match yesterday and didn't get to play with the G44 but I did let a guy shoot 20 rounds through it afterwards. Something dawned on me, I've yet to get it back from someone that wasn't smiling from ear to ear.

[Doc_Glock]

I just ran an entire brick (525 rounds) of Golden Bullets through a clean, lubricated G44 with zero malfunctions. Loving this gun.

[sqeeler]

Alright finally the 13,000 plus mark, finally had to clean this nasty little beast as around the 12,500-13,000 plus count started having some malfunctions. I was not 100 percent sure it was the pistol or the ammo but considering the round count and the cleaning schedule (practically nothing), cleaned once after first brick and only lubed to this point figured it was time to do the deed.

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I did manage to get a target showing the accuracy I achieved with my particular 44 but it is from a couple weeks ago and I have to get it uploaded and my wife left it in my daughters jeep, as soon as I get it from her I will get it uploaded, be safe and hope this sheds some light on the G44 questions, I do know some others have had verifiable issues, but I feel I got an exceptional one and absolutely love this this for practicing reps on draws, reloads and trigger press.

Thanks everyone.

[jandbj]

About 2k through my G44. Mostly Aguila copper plated HV. It likes the Mexican minimags for sure. Had a few teething pains early on but it’s very reliable now. Definitely a keeper!

[peterb]

How does the G44 work for folks with small hands? I was thinking of a M&P22 Compact for the new/small shooters role, but now I'm wondering.....

[jandbj]

How does the G44 work for folks with small hands? I was thinking of a M&P22 Compact for the new/small shooters role, but now I'm wondering.....

My G19’s, Gen3 & gen4 got flat triggers that I love! I threw one on the G44 but it really isn’t needed, and I have medium size glove paws. 🐾

[momano]

How does the G44 work for folks with small hands? I was thinking of a M&P22 Compact for the new/small shooters role, but now I'm wondering.....

If you are uncomfortable with a regular G19 grip, you will be uncomfortable with the 44. I love mine, but I had to adjust the sight to the end of the adjustment in the rear sight and then drift the rear sight in the dove tail. With my size hands - I always shoot Glocks low and left- and at 65 years old- I'll never train out of it.

At 700-800 rounds of CCI mini mags, I've had only FTF and that was because I inadvertently released the mag and didn't notice.

I'm truly happy to be a beta tester in this instance.

Long-term, I'm wondering if an aluminum slide like the S&W or the Beretta has would be more better...

[Jeff22]

Back about 1982 or so I started accumulating .22 conversion units or .22 cal equivalents of my various guns to allow me to practice for cheap. My normal practice has been to shoot about 1000 rounds a month of .22 indoors in the winter.

In January I bought the first Glock 44 I ever saw. I already have a Ciener conversion unit on a G19 frame and an Advantage Arms conversion on a G22 frame.

I've been REALLY impressed with the Glock 44 so far. I have tested it with the following ammunition types:

200 rnds CCI Mini Mags. (40 grn at 1235 fps)

300 rnds CCI AR Tactical. (40 grn at 1200 fps)

200 rnds Winchester M-22 (40 grn at 1255 fps)

200 rnds Winchester Super Speed (40 grn @ 1300 fps)

200 rnds Federal Black (38 grn at 1260 fps)

200 rnds Browning Performance Rimfire (BPR) (40 grn at 1435 fps)

200 rns Armscore High Velocity (36 grn at 1260 fps)

200 rns Augila Super Extra High Velocity ((40 grn at 1255 fps)

That's 1,700 rounds in five weeks.

I cleaned and lubed the gun after each trip to the range.

I had NO (0) malfunctions.

Most of the shooting I did was accuracy drills on NRA B-24 or B-34 or B-29 or TQ-20 targets at 30 and 50 feet. I also shot on some Warren Tactical WTS-8 targets at different distances.

Both of my other Glock conversions and the SIG factory .22 conversions require hot ammo with plated bullets to run reliably. I've usually used CCI Mini-Mags for that application, and still experienced occasional malfunctions caused by the slide not going fully into battery.

So far I've been really impressed with the G44. The trigger feels like a stock Glock trigger.

My next project is to do some shooting on some B-3 bullseyes at 50 feet and see how that goes.

[backtrail540]

Glock 44 threaded barrels in stock at g&r.

https://www.gandrtactical.com/Glock-44-Threaded-Barrel-12X28_p_1409.html

[littlejerry]

My threaded barrel arrived today.

Ran through a good bit of CCi Std, CCI 45gr HP Suppressor, and CCI clean subsonic. No failures, great accuracy with the 45gr.

Between the 15-22, G44, and the 22 can, in going to burn through A LOT of rimfire this year.

[Duelist]

23 March 2020
New gun, first rounds
CCI Blazer - first box
50 rounds, 3 yards, 5” circle

Federal Game Shock
50 rounds - Dot Torture
(I counted it if they hit within a 9mm diameter of the line - there were just a few I wouldn’t have counted otherwise, but I decided that’s how it was going to be done today)
48/50
2 misfires

Win M22
60 rds on 1” circle @ 3yds
1 misfire

50 rds Win M22 Dot Torture
5 yds
47/50
1 rimlock misfeed on dot 10

67 rounds Win M22 @ 5yds
2 misfeeds on 2nd round in magazine

5 yards
50 rds CCI Blazer
50 rds Rem Thunderbolt
2 misfeeds
50 rds Armscor
3 slidelock misfeeds


There were a total of 4 misfires. All fired on the second try.

427 rds total for the day.
My thumbs are a little sore from all of the sliding of the followers. And I did switch back and forth between left and right hands. But I’m not nearly as wearied as I would be had I been shooting a 9mm or .45. (Shock face)

I deliberately took a mix of ammunition I expected to work and ammunition that regularly has various problems in other guns: extraction failures, cycling failures, and misfires. And I had misfires, cycling, and feeding issues, but not so many, and no extraction issues at all. Rounds that regularly tie up other guns over and over again ran through this thing like it was nothing. Even if there was a misfire or feeding issue, it cleared easily.

Here’s the thing a lot of people forget about .22LR rimfire ammunition: most of it sucks. Rim fires are fun. .22 is easy on the wallet and the ears and the hands, and it’s fun.

But the ammunition that is so cheap? Most of it sucks when compared to centerfire ammunition. I had 4 misfires today in 427 rounds of mixed brands. Two brands had no misfires. Others had multiple. Only one had no misfires or feeding issues: CCI Blazer, which isn’t actually an expensive round, but it’s a little bit more than the bulk rounds I ran today, and on par with the Federal Game Shock and Armscor. I only see that kind of poor performance in a centerfire when I feed it steel cased Russian ammunition.

My opinion is: it’s not the gun’s fault if you feed it garbage and it doesn’t run on it. And each rimfire is a law unto itself. Some guns work better with one brand than another, and some are more accurate with one than another. And you only find this out if you actually test a variety of ammunition and accept that some of it isn’t going to work.

In a rimfire, if I’m running bulk/cheap ammo? I just kind of expect it and roll with it. If I’m concerned to make sure my gun runs right, I don’t feed it garbage ammunition. I have seen the M22 that shot very accurately today in the Glock, and that mostly ran well, completely tie up two other quality pistols repeatedly, and shoot like doodie out of both, to boot. Blazer and MiniMags usually run well out of most guns, but aren’t always the most accurate. Wolf standard, MT & Extra, Lapua, Eley, CCI Green Tag & SV, Midas, etc are usually the most accurate out of most guns and also seem to rarely have a misfire or feeding issue, but range from $4/50 on up to $20/50 and sometimes more.

I expect to do a lot of shooting with this gun, and will appreciate it if it likes a variety of inexpensive bulk ammunition, but if the least expensive thing it will run well on is Blazer, I won’t complain about it. Blazer is usually 2.99/50, and I’ve seen it for 1.99/50. That’s cheap enough.

Quite a fun little gun. I imagine it’s going to be a popular one with my family.

[secondstoryguy]

Got my G44 last week. Put 400-500 rounds of a blend of mixed crap that ranged from Eley/Federal match to ancient Winchester and it fed most with no problems(only 6-10 malfunctions all attributed to crappy Winchester ammo from the 90s-some of this was just mixed in a ziplock bag from god knows when). Very accurate and giggly fun to shoot. By the end of the session I could shoot out the middle of a 1" square dot at 5 yards without much problem with only a few flyers that were wholly my fault. The malfunctions were actually very welcome as this is my 12 year olds first handgun and he learned to tap rack during this session. I even shot a 90 on a B8 at 25 with it! Definitely worth the $$$$!

As a side note I also found a cherry old 4" S&W pin-barrel Model 17 22LR at a pawn shop for a very good price. I never realized that the perfect combo for plinking is a rimfire revolver and a semi as if the ammo you buy wont run in the semi you have the revolver to fall back on. The S&W is silly accurate by the way. I was shooting the staples off the target at 4-5 yards...god its fun to shoot.

[deputyG23]

Got my G44 last week. Put 400-500 rounds of a blend of mixed crap that ranged from Eley/Federal match to ancient Winchester and it fed most with no problems(only 6-10 malfunctions all attributed to crappy Winchester ammo from the 90s-some of this was just mixed in a ziplock bag from god knows when). Very accurate and giggly fun to shoot. By the end of the session I could shoot out the middle of a 1" square dot at 5 yards without much problem with only a few flyers that were wholly my fault. The malfunctions were actually very welcome as this is my 12 year olds first handgun and he learned to tap rack during this session. I even shot a 90 on a B8 at 25 with it! Definitely worth the $$$$!

As a side note I also found a cherry old 4" S&W pin-barrel Model 17 22LR at a pawn shop for a very good price. I never realized that the perfect combo for plinking is a rimfire revolver and a semi as if the ammo you buy wont run in the semi you have the revolver to fall back on. The S&W is silly accurate by the way. I was shooting the staples off the target at 4-5 yards...god its fun to shoot.

I am seriously eyeing one of these.
Will save wear and tear on my back picking up brass to reload or to sell for scrap eventually when the price improves;
The Bride might actually try this one.
I have been unsuccessful in getting her to the range to try and sort of self loading pistol.

[diananike]

Mine arrived by courier this afternoon.
First impressions are it is crazy lightweight. It still handles just like my Glock 19. It seems to hold as stable in spite of it’s ridiculous lack of mass.
I could really see sticking this in a hiking pack and forgetting that it was there. (If I was in a free country)

I hope mine shoots to the same POA as my G19 and G48. It would suck to have to mess with sights right off the bat.

Unfortunately I can’t go and shoot it until I get the paperwork from the firearms centre.

I’ll post round count and brands when I get to the range.

[MGW]

Bought one last week. My son and law and I put 200 rounds of bulk pack 38 grain federal through it last weekend. Had one failure to fire and one failure to feed. The failure to feed didn’t even strip the round out of the magazine so I’m not sure what to think about that. I don’t remember which one of us was shooting it when it happened. I didn’t think to look at or try the failure to fire round again.

It’s an absolute blast to shoot. We both shot Finding Your Level multiple times. Also lots of plate rack runs. It might be the most fun to shoot 22 I’ve ever owned. Can’t wait to let my 22 and 18 year old daughters shoot it.

I sold off a 22/45 that I was thoroughly frustrated with. Couldn’t keep it running, magazines suck for kids to load, and it was notorious for pinching hands and fingers. The G44 is like the easy button of 22s. Very user friendly.

I kinda want a 43x or 48 size model now.

[deputyG23]

Bought one last week. My son and law and I put 200 rounds of bulk pack 38 grain federal through it last weekend. Had one failure to fire and one failure to feed. The failure to feed didn’t even strip the round out of the magazine so I’m not sure what to think about that. I don’t remember which one of us was shooting it when it happened. I didn’t think to look at or try the failure to fire round again.

It’s an absolute blast to shoot. We both shot Finding Your Level multiple times. Also lots of plate rack runs. It might be the most fun to shoot 22 I’ve ever owned. Can’t wait to let my 22 and 18 year old daughters shoot it.

I sold off a 22/45 that I was thoroughly frustrated with. Couldn’t keep it running, magazines suck for kids to load, and it was notorious for pinching hands and fingers. The G44 is like the easy button of 22s. Very user friendly.

I kinda want a 43x or 48 size model now.

I sold off a 6 7/8 Ruger target gun years ago because I never could get the damn thing apart for a proper cleaning.
It would shoot quarter size groups off a car hood rest at 25 yards all day long.

[diananike]

We got absolutely dumped on with snow the last week but I still got my boots on and trekked into the range to try the 44.

I only shot 50rds of Federal Champion 36gr CPHP. Flawless function.

It shot a little high but once I figured out the 6 o’clock hold I was hitting the 6 inch plates on the dueling tree 8/10 times from 25yds. That’s pretty darn good for a gun I never shot before although I do have a ton of flick trigger time. I guess that’s the benefit of this model is the cross training.

Personally I really like this gun. It’s accurate and it fed the cheap bulk pack just fine. I’ll try some thunderbolts and some Winchester 555 next time I’m out. Now if this snow would just melt...,..

[ssb]

I'm only at most of a 550-round carton through mine (probably ~450), but one semi-persistent issue I've encountered has been light strikes. I'm using Winchester M-22 and have had four light strikes (round detonated on second strike) and one dud round (would not detonate after three strikes). I've had no feeding issues or failures to extract/eject. Wondering if it's the ammo -- the hits on the light strike rounds don't look any different than the ones which fired on the first strike. Figure I'll try some different ammo whenever I get around to buying more .22LR.

In any event, I'm not overly concerned about a 1/100 failure rate. This is a ballistic dry fire tool for me. Apart from the above I've been quite happy with the pistol, though I want to figure out a way to mount a red dot.

[diananike]

I put another 150 rounds through mine today.
The first 50 were federal classic 36gr cphp no malfunctions.
The next 100 were alternating magazines of Remington thunderbolt 40gr lead RN (flawless function) and Winchester 555 36gr cphp
I had a couple of malfunctions with the Winchester. One was a failure to feed. 3d round in magazine. It was a real soft ejection prior and actually ejected left instead of right. The trigger went dead. And when I cycled the slide it hadn’t picked up the next round. I think it was a weak charge.
The second was a failure to fire. It fired when reloaded and cycled again. Looked like a strong hit with the pin the first time. This is a pretty common issue with inconsistent priming compound around the rim.
I think both malfunctions were ammunition related.
I thought the malfunctions would be with the thunderbolts as it jams my revolver up with fouling and lead shavings very quickly. The Thunderbolts surprisingly worked fine in the Glock.
The Winchester bulk pack was more accurate but malfunctioned twice in only 50rds.
I’m quite happy with the Glocks reliability and attribute it’s malfunctions to this one brand (or lot) of ammunition the Winchester bulk pack 36gr cphp.
I managed to adjust the rear sight down to where it’s zeroed at 20yds with high velocity ammunition. It is bottomed out though.
I cleaned the gun after this 150rds and will clean it every 100rds from this point on as I think that is appropriate for how filthy a rimfire gets.

[TWR]

I'm only at most of a 550-round carton through mine (probably ~450), but one semi-persistent issue I've encountered has been light strikes. I'm using Winchester M-22 and have had four light strikes (round detonated on second strike) and one dud round (would not detonate after three strikes). I've had no feeding issues or failures to extract/eject. Wondering if it's the ammo -- the hits on the light strike rounds don't look any different than the ones which fired on the first strike. Figure I'll try some different ammo whenever I get around to buying more .22LR.

In any event, I'm not overly concerned about a 1/100 failure rate. This is a ballistic dry fire tool for me. Apart from the above I've been quite happy with the pistol, though I want to figure out a way to mount a red dot.

I have a few duds with Federal 550 pack ammo but I don't think it's light strikes.
https://i.postimg.cc/CxynFVhz/247-D96-C4-574-D-4-C76-9123-2267639351-EC.jpg (https://postimg.cc/7fVZVdTk)
just bargain ammo. Still loving the pistol.

[diananike]

I have a few duds with Federal 550 pack ammo but I don't think it's light strikes.
Still loving the pistol.

I am also loving mine
Its a must have for Glockophiles
And a perfect training compliment to other glock pistols
the hybrid plastic slide construction is super cool
I was apprehensive after seeing the poor reviews on youtube but I think that might have been early production and they got the kinks worked out by the time they shipped up here to Canada

[LtDave]

Misfires and/or fliers with some brands of .22 LR occur when rim thickness is on the low end. In my experience you want about .040 or a little more. I've found an awful lot of bulk ammo runs significantly less than .040. CCI MiniMags/Standard Velocity runs closer to .040.

[diananike]

Another 100 rounds through mine today.
1/2 Remington Golden Bullet and 1/2 federal classic 36gr cphp.
Flawless function with both.
It works perfectly with all the bulk pack ammo I’ve tried except the Winchester 36gr CPHP.

[diananike]

150rds today
50 Federal bulk 36gr cphp- flawless
50 Winchester bulk 36gr cphp, 2 failure to eject, the case was still in the chamber but the gun was cocked and the striker fell on the empty case. The gun recoiled normally.
50 Federal American Eagle 40gr LREN, 1 failure to fire (light strike the case was barely dented went off on second strike) 1 failure to eject (like the winchester) Also the slide failed to lock back twice on an empty magazine.

Overall my initial impressions with this gun working so well have been somewhat tempered by its lack of reliability with the Winchester ammunition and this lot of Federal American Eagle LRN.
It has still functioned very well with the Federal bulk pack 36gr. I believe I have 200rds without a single malfunction. Also both bulk Remington have yet to malfunction but I only have 50rds through it with both.

It seems this gun is just as finicky as other Semi-Autos about what ammunition it likes.
Another issue I have is that unless I sink the white dot of the front sight so that the black top edge is even with the top of the rear sight the gun shoots a few inches high. My instinct is to just put the ball in the bucket but that leaves the top edge well above the rear and will shoot high. If im doing slow fire its not an issue. As soon as I run fast I wind up slinging them high. Obviously Ive bottomed the rear out on its adjustibility.
I'll be buying a taller front sight and blacking out the rear white bucket.

I still love having a .22 Glock. The cross training with 9mm Glocks is invaluable. I wish the blowback Glock BB pistols were better. I tried one of the Gen 4 BB guns and it shot about 4" low at 5yds and all the weight was in the magazine so its balance was terrible, it also had a terribly designed magazine. As it stands now I've been using a laser cartridge for dry fire but if I had a good BB glock then I'd be getting even more cross training in at home.

[deputyG23]

Mine arrived by courier this afternoon.
First impressions are it is crazy lightweight. It still handles just like my Glock 19. It seems to hold as stable in spite of it’s ridiculous lack of mass.
I could really see sticking this in a hiking pack and forgetting that it was there. (If I was in a free country)

I hope mine shoots to the same POA as my G19 and G48. It would suck to have to mess with sights right off the bat.

Unfortunately I can’t go and shoot it until I get the paperwork from the firearms centre.

I’ll post round count and brands when I get to the range.

I am presuming that this is a “restricted” firearm in Canada and can be only transported to and fired at an approved range?

[1Rangemaster]

We got a sample at the dept. weeks ago, and I guesstimate I have put close to 1000 rounds through it-virtually all some 36gr. Federal hp (Black Pack that someone bought on sale). I had forgotten what fun a rimfire is. I get it-it’s not a “combat” pistol. But anytime one can launch rounds downrange safely, that’s a good thing.
Have done a few “Dot Tortures”@3yards. The first one was clean, 50/50. Then I had an idea that I am still working with: timed fire on the drill. Set par at 5 seconds, and had at it! Haven’t cleaned it yet-single handed shooting where I’m falling short-but I’m working on it. The G44 makes it fun, and I consider it “ballistic dry fire”, working on trigger manipulation and sight focus(carefully installed Sevigny suppressor sights w/green fiber; gotta be very careful and work slow, ‘cause it’s a steel sight going into a polymer slide).
Get one and get to shootin’!

[diananike]

I am presuming that this is a “restricted” firearm in Canada and can be only transported to and fired at an approved range?

Yes its a restricted here in Canada like all handguns manufactured after 1898. And therefore only authorized for use at the gun range. Our range here in The Pas is outdoors which in Northern Manitoba means a pretty short handgun shooting season.

I shot another 150rds today.
Federal 36gr, Remington Thunderbolts and Golden Bullets.
I had 0 malfunctions with all 3.
This gun is really quite reliable with ammunition it likes.
I was impressed with it today.

[JoeSixPack]

Just a PSA...don't try firing Aguila Colibri (powderless 20 gr) loads from your G44 unless you like finishing the job with your cleaning rod and a hammer.
Heard it from a friend.

[Doc_Glock]

My G44 just passed 4000 rounds. With a modicum of cleaning and lubrication (every 3-500 rounds) it just runs and runs.

Total stoppages sit at 11. 4 of those were one lot of Golden Bullet Ammo.

Only one stoppage (unlit primer) in the last 1600 rounds since I started giving it a bit more lube. It loves Mexican Minimags (Aguila SuperExtra).

[Toddles]

My G44 just passed 4000 rounds. With a modicum of cleaning and lubrication (every 3-500 rounds) it just runs and runs.

Total stoppages sit at 11. 4 of those were one lot of Golden Bullet Ammo.

Only one stoppage (unlit primer) in the last 1600 rounds since I started giving it a bit more lube. It loves Mexican Minimags (Aguila SuperExtra).

I'll second that. I got some bricks in this week and had a chance to run some through the gun today; great stuff.

[farscott]

I sold off a 6 7/8 Ruger target gun years ago because I never could get the damn thing apart for a proper cleaning.
It would shoot quarter size groups off a car hood rest at 25 yards all day long.

Taking the Ruger Standard apart and putting it back together is an acquired skill. The good news is it does get easier as the gun is used. The bad news is the guns, when new, are tight. Those first few times can be difficult and the rubber mallet may well be necessary. But after that, it is not too difficult -- unless you have a Mark III with the magazine safety. The trigger needs to be manipulated at different times during disassembly and assembly so that hammer is in the right place, so the magazine for the Mark III has to be repeatedly removed and inserted and removed. The older guns do not need the magazine handling.

The Mark IV eliminates the issue, coming apart with the push of a button, but I am partial to the Standard and Mark II patterns. My Standards have triggers as good as the newer guns with Volquartsen triggers. Due to the lack of a last-shot "hold open", the guns are not popular in shooter conditions. That means the guns sell for $300 or less.

That being said, the Glock 44 seems to shine as sub-caliber trainer and comes apart and goes together quite easily.

[MGW]

My G44 just passed 4000 rounds. With a modicum of cleaning and lubrication (every 3-500 rounds) it just runs and runs.

Total stoppages sit at 11. 4 of those were one lot of Golden Bullet Ammo.

Only one stoppage (unlit primer) in the last 1600 rounds since I started giving it a bit more lube. It loves Mexican Minimags (Aguila SuperExtra).

Glad to hear the Aguila is GTG. I picked up a box of that when I bought my G44. I’ve been burning up the stock of Federal bulk pack I had on hand first.

[EzGoingKev]

The trigger felt heavy relative to the weight of the pistol, and I decided to look at the striker spring. It appeared to be a regular OEM 5.5 spring, although the spring cups were white instead of black. I replaced the 5.5 OEM striker spring with a Wolf 5.0, improving the trigger somewhat, but in the process launching one white spring cup to an as yet undetermined area of my gun area.

GJM - any updates on the striker spring? Any issues with any brand of ammo?

[JSGlock34]

What sights are folks running on these?

[MGW]

I measured the sights on mine and it looks like the front and rear are exactly the same height. I have a set of trijicon fiber sights that are the same front and rear height. I’m going to try them out. Might be a couple weeks before I have an opportunity too.

[Doc_Glock]

What sights are folks running on these?

Replaced front with 0.205” Dawson fiber and drove on. Works great.

[BillSWPA]

Shot mine today with Federal bulk pack 40 gr. With the exception of 2 failures to load the first round in the magazine, reliability was flawless. It is necessary to load the magazine carefully, but doing so is easy.

My example shot to the top of the front sight at 25 yards, with no sight adjustment needed.

My 13 year old daughter enjoyed shooting the gun as well.

My daughter does not like the noise of larger calibers despite wearing foam ear plugs under electronic ear muffs. This gun will allow me to practice a wider variety of skills while keeping her within her comfort zone when she is with me.


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[Doc_Glock]

I shot the G44 versus my two Advantage Arms Conversions today. I was able to shoot the AA units quite a bit more precisely. I don’t know if it is the trigger, the sights, or the lack of cleaning on the G44, but the G44 accuracy seems to be worse than it was initially.

Reliability of the AA units was abysmal. To the point where I am going to sell them off I just can’t stand constantly monkeying with them and having to keep them perfectly clean with their precise ammo needs.

The G44 continues to run without complaint. I cleaned the barrel carefully focusing on the crown. Didn’t see anything too bad. Is there anything I should look for with degraded accuracy on this gun?

[MGW]

My G44 seems to be a little more accurate with 40 grain Aguila super extra. I was having trouble making clean trigger presses but my 73 year old dad was making regular hits on 8” steel at 50 yards with it. That’s with stock plastic Glock sights. It was pretty impressive.

[jandbj]

I replaced just the front sight with a plain black defoor front from Ameriglo, left the rear factory one on it and Sharpie’d the goal post away. Runs near flawlessly on the Aguila plated HV stuff. Over 5k through it at this point. So I laid in a supply of another 20k to keep it happy. ;)

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These MTM Case-Gard ACR12 Ammo Crate Utility Box - Dark Earth https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C58YH4M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_i6x8EbPQJEBXFMTM ammo crates hold 16k. Was half way through filling it when I snapped the pic.

[TWR]

What's the story on threaded barrels? I read where a guy said the first run of barrels were recalled and the new version should be out by end of June. Now I can't find any mention of it and Brownells, Midway USA and a few others have some in stock but I'm wondering if they are old stock or if there ever was a problem and recall to begin with.

I was gonna wait till they offered a complete gun with a threaded barrel and just pick up another one but I'm ready to just buy a barrel if they are GTG.

As for a range report, I continue to enjoy my G44 even shooting a few SC matches with it but I lost round count around 1500 and just continue to shoot it every Saturday morning.

[TWR]

I called Glock just now and the tech I spoke with was not aware of any recalls, design changes or problems on the threaded barrels.

I also asked about putting a Dawson fiber optic front sight on there (Dawson said it could crack the slide but are going to look at other options, one day...) the tech said he couldn't recommend it either.

Just FYI

[dustyvarmint]

Qualifier - this is not a knock against the G44, just sharing the experience.

My G44 started randomly shooting high last session. Took it apart and found the barrel leaded up. This is only part of the lead removed by brush. Remington Thunderbolts - an estimated 420 rounds.

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Happy shooting, Jerry

[diananike]

I had the exact same thing with mine and thunderbolts
After 400 rounds the barrel was leaded so badly I broke a cleaning rod hammering the shavings out
Accuracy was terrible so I took it apart and looked down the barrel. It was half smooth bore near the muzzle from all the lead

[TWR]

Thunderbolts have a rep for leading badly. I ran a brush through mine for the first time and got nothing. CCI Blazer, SV and Federal value packs have been the most used ammo in mine.

[wlktheduk]

Update to my post #61
Glock 44, serial # prefix ADUH, purchased 1/30/2020
primary use GSSF Rimfire division

5,220 rounds fired to date
3,445 CCI Mini Mags (40gr CPRN) 1 failure to pickup and feed from magazine during string of fire
865 Federal Champion #510 (40gr LRN) 3 Failure to Fire, 1 Failure to Eject
470 Federal Automatch #AM22 (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=AM22) (40gr LRN) 1 Failure to Fire
150 CCI Standard Velocity (40gr LRN) 3 Failure to Eject
120 Remington Golden Bullet (36gr HP) 2 Failure to Fire
170 Aguila Super Extra (40gr CPRN)

All of the stoppages (so far) happened within the first 1500 rounds fired.

At 1450 rounds I installed a Dawson Fiber Optic Front Sight, .205 tall X .105 wide, by request of the primary users, my wife (AKA SWMBO) and adult daughter. I used the tool provided with the replacement sight, red loc-tite and hand tightening the screw. No problems so far.

The factory adjustable rear sight was blacked out. Not sure how much elevation was added, but adjustments were made by the primary users, and they have pronounced the sights good for them.

At the same time, I also added a factory Glock "-" minus connector. They both felt that the original connector in the G44 had a rough, gritty break, and did not like the reset. With the minus connector, they like the reset, and the break feels smoother. Their pistol, their call :)

My personal preference is to clean .22 rimfire pistols after each range session. Normally between 200 to 300 rounds are fired in the G44 at each range session. The fluting of the G44's barrel chamber seems to attract more fouling then (for example) my Ruger MK II pistol's chamber, sometimes requiring more attention with a bore brush. I have not seen an issue with leading, in this pistol, with the ammo used. YMMV

My only significant problem with this G44 was I didn't get to shoot it. As pointed out, I am not the primary user. I loaded magazines, I cleaned it, but if I shot more then a couple of magazines at any range session...so I have bought a G44 for myself. :cool:

Only about 750 rounds thru MY G44, but so far, so good.

[JSGlock34]

So this happened today...
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[Whirlwind06]

Any anyone think a rmr could be mounted on the 44? Or to heavy?

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[EzGoingKev]

Any anyone think a rmr could be mounted on the 44? Or to heavy?

I tried a Holosun 508t with an aluminum adapter plate on mine.

I shot Aguilla Super Extra standard velocity and high velocity. It would not cycle 100% of the time even with the high velocity.

The 508t is made of titanium which is much heavier than aluminum. I think if I had put an RMR on it it would have worked fine.

[ST911]

G44 is not viable for RDS in current form.

[ssb]

As much as I'd like a slide-mounted RDS, I think it's gonna have to be a frame mounted optic on the G44, whenever I get around to doing that. Putting together an AR15 this month kind of put a damper on that project though.

[1Rangemaster]

So this happened today...
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And that suppressor is made by-..., please sir.

[1Rangemaster]

I don’t think an optic on this version slide could work-is be concerned about damage.
FWIW, shot a small Steel Challenge match yesterday with a G44 and Sevigny red fiber optic. I’m sure there’s work to be done, but hoping it simulates a red dot, sorta...
Be that as it may, it was fun! Had a couple of failures to fire with Federal “Black Pack” ammo; bonus stoppage clearance practice-tap, rack, um...pop!

[Lon]

Any anyone think a rmr could be mounted on the 44? Or to heavy?

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Down the road I plan on getting a G44 and putting a Sig RomeoZero on it. I’ll be interested to see how it runs. It’s pretty lightweight so I’m hoping it’ll run fine.

[JSGlock34]

And that suppressor is made by-..., please sir.

It's a Silencer Co. Sparrow.

[1Rangemaster]

Thanks, sir.

[littlejerry]

I also asked about putting a Dawson fiber optic front sight on there (Dawson said it could crack the slide but are going to look at other options, one day...) the tech said he couldn't recommend it either.

Just FYI

Huh? I'm not tracking here, how does a FO front sight risk damage to the slide?

ETA: I have about 1000 rounds through mine with a Dawson FO front and no problems

[TWR]

Same thing Dawson said when a friend tried to put a set on his AA conversion. Different dovetail cut than Glock so he sent the slide in. They were afraid the battering back and forth would open the rear dovetail up in the aluminum slide. They made him a front sight to match his AA rear sight.

Dawson is afraid the metal front sight's extra weight might cause the plastic slide to wear or crack. It probably won't but until they can test it out, they can't recommend it.

I shoot with a guy that bought a Bersa 22 back in Febuary to shoot steel Challenge with. Last month it wouldn't decock without pressing down on the slide and the slide rails were almost non existent. He had about 24000 rounds down it. Kinda got me skittish.

[littlejerry]

Same thing Dawson said when a friend tried to put a set on his AA conversion. Different dovetail cut than Glock so he sent the slide in. They were afraid the battering back and forth would open the rear dovetail up in the aluminum slide. They made him a front sight to match his AA rear sight.

Dawson is afraid the metal front sight's extra weight might cause the plastic slide to wear or crack. It probably won't but until they can test it out, they can't recommend it.

I shoot with a guy that bought a Bersa 22 back in Febuary to shoot steel Challenge with. Last month it wouldn't decock without pressing down on the slide and the slide rails were almost non existent. He had about 24000 rounds down it. Kinda got me skittish.

The rear sight I understand. The front I have no concerns about.

That's coming from a Mechanical Engineer who designs plastic and metal parts to survive automotive crash testing for a living.

[psalms144.1]

On a lark I snagged a G44 on Wed, with an eye towards using it as a trainer for a NEW shooter (as in, never was in the same room with a gun before Friday new). After about 4-hours of one-on-one basic marksmanship and weapons handling training on Friday, we hit the range yesterday in the AM. Shooter is a petite woman in her early 70s, with a bad back and significant hand/arm strength issues. She struggles with locking the slide to the rear even using the "push pull" method, and can just barely release the slide on a fresh magazine.

Having said all that, she ran almost 300 rounds of Aguila Super Extra without a bobble. We were shooting at 11-ish yards, on an IDPA-sized steel, and I doubt she missed more than 2 rounds in the whole session. On paper at 5 yards, she was easily putting rounds into a 3x5" "head" card, or a 6" Shoot-n-C "chest."

After she felt like she was done for the day, I ran a few magazines through it, again, zero issues, and, dang, that's a lot of fun...

[1Rangemaster]

And good for you for helping out a new, though “senior” shooter. I don’t know if it will fit, but the Tango Down extended
Slide plate might be of assistance. A couple of years ago, I assisted a widow whose husband had left behind a G42. She had an issue with hand strength and also felt like the slide slipped as she used the “scissors” method. The plate alleviated her concerns. Interestingly, once she got it loaded, no issues with functionality, to include one handed shooting-all with ball ammo.

[JSGlock34]

So has anyone swapped out the rear sight?

[JSGlock34]

First 200 round session; all with 40 grain Federal Champion (which is what I had on hand - works well in the S&W M&P 15-22). Three rounds failed to ignite; all fired on the second hit. One FTF which was shooter induced with a weak hand grip. I've got some Aguila Super Extra on the way.

Bought this pistol as a youth trainer, much like the aforementioned S&W M&P 15-22. I think it will fill that role quite nicely. I do wish the rear dovetail was not polymer; I'd like to swap the sights out but I'm hesitant to try. The stock sights are sufficient...for now.

[littlejerry]

Blacking out the rear sight and installing a Dawson front helped a lot... but I still don't like the rear shape.

I have an old Defoor rear that I may try and mate up with a different front. I believe I measured a .010" offset between front/rear on my zeroed 44, with the front being taller.

[littlejerry]

Installed a new rear sight today. Used an Ameriglo rear with a Dawson FO front. Rear measures .280 from bottom of dovetail, front is either. 205 or .210. This allows me to drive the dot at 15 yards with Aguila 40gr HV. POI is about 2" lower with CCI clean subsonic.

Sight picture is much improved over the plastic rear sight. I think the big difference is the depth of the notch, but the slightly narrower outer profile and rounded edges helps also.

The rear isn't all that tight. It took VERY light taps to get it in position. I can't move it with just my fingers, but it's by no means a "solid" installation. I tried using a defoor rear which had a set screw but it was too short and my Sevigny was too tall.

[littlejerry]

Ran the 44 through a 7 stage steel match today. Used a bore snake before the match and applied some fresh lube. 0 malfunctions for the day using Aguila 40gr HV, probably 200-215 rds total.

Sights regulated well at steel challenge distances. No signs of deformation in the rear dovetail.

I'm really liking the gun so far. Great trigger control trainer. Steel challenge is well suited to rimfire training since its only 1 round on target.

[JSGlock34]

Has anyone dropped an extended slide stop into one of these? I've seen varying reports as to whether the G44 part is the standard GEN5 part (SP47249).

[JodyH]

Picked up a 44 yesterday because 9mm is hard to find and stupid expensive and I already have around 6000 rounds of CCI Mini-Mags I picked up on super-sale at the grand opening of a Cabelas a few years back.
I'm only 200 rounds into it, but it's humming along perfectly.
Installed a Dawson red FO front and blacked out the rear with a Sharpie. Two or so clicks up on the rear has me ringing a 8" steel plate out to 40Y (at 50Y I have to aim at the top of the plate).

Great for draw to 1st shot practice and transitions between widely spaced targets, basically anything that doesn't revolve around recoil control.

[Lon]

Found a use for my Romeo Zero. Hope it lasts. JP Enterprises dovetail mount. Put 100+ rounds through it the other day with no issues.
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[littlejerry]

Shot another 200 rds today. Mix of Rem Thunderbolt and Aguila HV. 1 FTEject with Thunderbolts. Garbage ammo, you could feel different recoil impulses cycling through a 10rd mag. It was also noticably less accurate at just 5 yards. Aguila continues to impress.

From now on I'm trying to keep any practice to at least a 2:1 ratio of 22lr/9mm. Prices are stupid and I can't bring myself to spend $0.60 per rd of 9mm.

[psalms144.1]

Because a friend is considering a G44 as a home defense pistol, but wants a light/laser combo, I ran about 100 rounds the other day through mine with a TLR-8AG on it. Ran like a champeen. Same day, another friend who bought a G44 after shooting mine ran about 200 rounds of old, crappy, mixed exposed lead range fodder through his - 0 issues.

[EzGoingKev]

Has anyone dropped an extended slide stop into one of these? I've seen varying reports as to whether the G44 part is the standard GEN5 part (SP47249).


Because a friend is considering a G44 as a home defense pistol, but wants a light/laser combo, I ran about 100 rounds the other day through mine with a TLR-8AG on it. Ran like a champeen. Same day, another friend who bought a G44 after shooting mine ran about 200 rounds of old, crappy, mixed exposed lead range fodder through his - 0 issues.

I have been running a Vickers slide release and TLR-7A on mine for about 1800 rounds without any issues.

[Duelist]

Huh? I'm not tracking here, how does a FO front sight risk damage to the slide?

ETA: I have about 1000 rounds through mine with a Dawson FO front and no problems


Picked up a 44 yesterday because 9mm is hard to find and stupid expensive and I already have around 6000 rounds of CCI Mini-Mags I picked up on super-sale at the grand opening of a Cabelas a few years back.
I'm only 200 rounds into it, but it's humming along perfectly.
Installed a Dawson red FO front and blacked out the rear with a Sharpie. Two or so clicks up on the rear has me ringing a 8" steel plate out to 40Y (at 50Y I have to aim at the top of the plate).

Great for draw to 1st shot practice and transitions between widely spaced targets, basically anything that doesn't revolve around recoil control.

I know that others have installed a Dawson fiber front on a G44, as well. I tried to do so last night using a friend’s Trijicon front sight tool - the wrench end wouldn’t fit down inside the G44 slide to loosen the factory screw in the base.

What tool are people using to change their front sight?

[JodyH]

I know that others have installed a Dawson fiber front on a G44, as well. I tried to do so last night using a friend’s Trijicon front sight tool - the wrench end wouldn’t fit down inside the G44 slide to loosen the factory screw in the base.

What tool are people using to change their front sight?

standard Ameriglo front sight tool worked perfectly on mine.

[wlktheduk]

I know that others have installed a Dawson fiber front on a G44, as well. I tried to do so last night using a friend’s Trijicon front sight tool - the wrench end wouldn’t fit down inside the G44 slide to loosen the factory screw in the base.

What tool are people using to change their front sight?

Front sight tool that came with the Dawson sight.

[EzGoingKev]

I know that others have installed a Dawson fiber front on a G44, as well. I tried to do so last night using a friend’s Trijicon front sight tool - the wrench end wouldn’t fit down inside the G44 slide to loosen the factory screw in the base.

What tool are people using to change their front sight?
The plastic slide is bulkier in this area so it is tighter than a steel Glock slide. I have the Glock front sight tool from Fix It Sticks and it worked perfectly.

[Duelist]

Front sight tool that came with the Dawson sight.

Mine either didn’t come with one, or I lost it.

[psalms144.1]

Mine either didn’t come with one, or I lost it.Shoot me a PM with your address and I can mail you one if you need it.

[littlejerry]

Front sight tool that came with the Dawson sight.

Yeah, same here. It's thin walled and worked fine.

[Duelist]

Shoot me a PM with your address and I can mail you one if you need it.

Thanks!

[JodyH]

Just passed 1000 rounds through my 44.
One stove pipe out of an old box of mixed rounds, other than that it's hummed right along.

I'm primarily using the 44 to work on my draw to first hit, long transitions, singles on the move and entering/leaving USPSA shooting boxes. Basically any shooting that isn't geared around recoil control.
My draw to first precision hit with my 19 has improved significantly, the 44 gives way more feedback than just dry fire and I can get 10 times the reps with .22 as I can with 9mm for the same money.

I'm about to buy a Walther PPQ .22 for my wife.
Anyone have feedback on them?

[HJB]

My son-in-law bought a Glock 44 yesterday, and also bought the threaded barrel so he could use his suppressor on it.

So, naturally we had to go to the range with it today. That, plus the fact that I had not gone to the range since April and I was ready to go shoot something.

We took the best combined assortment of ammunition that we had between us to try to give it a good test. We had Remington Golden Bullet, Winchester, Aguila, Federal Bulk Pak, Blazer, and even tried some CCI Quiet 22.

Put about 400 rounds through the G44 without a single hiccup with any of the brands except the CCI Quiet ammo (which did not surprise us).

About 200 rounds were without the suppressor and about 200 with the suppressor and it all worked flawlessly except the CCI which fired no problem but would not cycle the slide.

We both own other Glocks and really liked the feel of the G44. Accuracy seemed to be great and loved shooting it. Very happy with the quality and reliability of the gun so far. Hope it continues for years and years.

We were also on the lookout for potential problems with loading magazines and had none. We did not pay any particular attention to how we loaded them or the angle of the rounds once loaded.

So I give the G44 high marks for this first outing. My son-in-law really liked it as well.

[Duelist]

Front sight tool that came with the Dawson sight.


Mine either didn’t come with one, or I lost it.


Shoot me a PM with your address and I can mail you one if you need it.

The Dawson front sight tool provided by psalms144.1 worked perfectly.

[HCM]

Has anyone tried a "bridge" type optics mount like the ALG or Carver mount on a G44 ?

[MGW]

Found a use for my Romeo Zero. Hope it lasts. JP Enterprises dovetail mount. Put 100+ rounds through it the other day with no issues.
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I’m really interested to see how this goes.

[backtrail540]

Just came across these optic ready aluminum slides for the g44. Seems like they'd be a cool option.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/09/09/nelson-precision-44x-aluminum-slide-for-glock-44-pistols/


Here's for the pre-orders. $220 pre order price, about the price of an optic cut on a centerfire gun.

https://www.nelsonprecisionmfg.com/store/p47/22SuperXSlide.html

[Lon]

Just came across these optic ready aluminum slides for the g44. Seems like they'd be a cool option.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/09/09/nelson-precision-44x-aluminum-slide-for-glock-44-pistols/


Here's for the pre-orders. $220 pre order price, about the price of an optic cut on a centerfire gun.

https://www.nelsonprecisionmfg.com/store/p47/22SuperXSlide.html

Saw that over on AR15.com. Very interested to see how those turn out.

[Whirlwind06]

Preordered one I’ll post some pictures and review once I get it


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[Up1911Fan]

Preordered one I’ll post some pictures and review once I get it


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Was going to order one, sold out.

[Blades]

Does everyone know about the ProMag 18 round magazines? (https://gunmagwarehouse.com/promag-glock-44-22-lr-18-round-magazine.html?avad=55963_b1dbbe61d)

[Duelist]

Does everyone know about the ProMag 18 round magazines? (https://gunmagwarehouse.com/promag-glock-44-22-lr-18-round-magazine.html?avad=55963_b1dbbe61d)

Out of stock.

Interesting, though. I’ve never seen a ProMag I’d trust. But for $14, I’d buy a couple and wring them out.

[EzGoingKev]

The last time I looked some guys over at ar15.com have been running without any issues.

They did say they were tough to get all (18) rounds in the mag. IIRC the common consensus is they wished the follower's "buttons" were the same size as the factory mags.

[DiscipulusArmorum]

Wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the NFA section:

Just got my Glock 44 threaded barrel and attached my Dead Air Mask. All threads were cleaned and had anti-seize applied before screwing everything together hand-tight. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but the issue I'm having is that when I try to remove the Mask, the barrel's metric-to-1/2x28 adapter stays locked together with the can's direct thread mount. Then when I try to remove the barrel adapter from the mount, I just end up unscrewing the mount from the back of the can. Got them separated by holding the (taped up) mount in a crescent wrench while I used a 1/2" wrench on the flats that are so conveniently present on the adapter.

Surely I'm doing something wrong, right? Or am I going to have to bring hand tools to the range if I want to move the can to another host during a session. I'm new to the suppressor game, so forgive me if any of this sounds stupid.

[Doc_Glock]

Got my "back up" G44 to the range yesterday. 150 flawless rounds out of the box.

This pistol needed the adjustable rear dialed all the way down as opposed to my other one which requires the rear dialed full up.

[littlejerry]

Wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the NFA section:

Just got my Glock 44 threaded barrel and attached my Dead Air Mask. All threads were cleaned and had anti-seize applied before screwing everything together hand-tight. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but the issue I'm having is that when I try to remove the Mask, the barrel's metric-to-1/2x28 adapter stays locked together with the can's direct thread mount. Then when I try to remove the barrel adapter from the mount, I just end up unscrewing the mount from the back of the can. Got them separated by holding the (taped up) mount in a crescent wrench while I used a 1/2" wrench on the flats that are so conveniently present on the adapter.

Surely I'm doing something wrong, right? Or am I going to have to bring hand tools to the range if I want to move the can to another host during a session. I'm new to the suppressor game, so forgive me if any of this sounds stupid.
I haven't had this issue. I torqued the barrel thread adapter per the manual, which is more than I hand-tighten the can.

[paherne]

Took my G44 to the range today for its first rounds. Did not lube, clean or do anything other than stuff mags and shoot. In total, we put 100 rounds through the pistol and CCI 40 grain Mini mags and Eley 38 grain high velocity hollow points worked well. The other shooter I was shooting with runs his off hand thumb against the slide when shooting Glocks and this caused several malfunctions. However, it was definitely shooter induced and when he changed his grip the pistol ran like a top. Just barrels of monkeys fun. I need to get different sights. I was concerned by all of the videos I saw with parts breakage and failures to feed on other G44s. Running good ammo seems to solve those issues. I can't wait to run 400-500 more rounds through it of different types to see if I can replicate the ammo issue.

[Duelist]

Does everyone know about the ProMag 18 round magazines? (https://gunmagwarehouse.com/promag-glock-44-22-lr-18-round-magazine.html?avad=55963_b1dbbe61d)


Out of stock.

Interesting, though. I’ve never seen a ProMag I’d trust. But for $14, I’d buy a couple and wring them out.


The last time I looked some guys over at ar15.com have been running without any issues.

They did say they were tough to get all (18) rounds in the mag. IIRC the common consensus is they wished the follower's "buttons" were the same size as the factory mags.

Local pusher had these ProMags in stock yesterday, so for $17.50, I rolled the dice.

Pics below. Follower buttons are too small. It gets progressively more difficult to load. Flashing is all over it - I am not cleaning that up till after shooting evaluation. Cartridge stack is interesting. Does slide into the gun smoothly and lock in place without resistance, whether loaded or empty. Loaded, it does not have any spring assistance for dropping the magazine, unlike the factory 10rd.

Shooting later today.

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[Duelist]

G44
ProMag
1x17- Federal bulk. 1xmisfed due to cartridge stack. Depressed tabs, shook magazine, remainder fed properly.
Thunderbolt
2x17
1st round from each misfeed by jamming into the top of the chamber. Locked slide to rear, realigned round, fed and fired.
2nd magazine - 2nd round nose down jam inside of magazine. Removed top round, shifted cartridge stack, all rounds fed and fired.
CCI MiniMag HP
1x17
2nd round misfeed. Cleared, remainder fed and fired properly.
12 rds 3 at a time one handed
All fed and fired properly
1x17 thunderbolt
Loaded top round, removed magazine, adjusted cartridge stack. All fed and fired properly.
97 rounds through the ProMag.

Factory magazines
1x10 blazer
All fed and fired properly
2x10 thunderbolt
All fed and fired properly

Bottom line on the ProMag: The follower tabs on the ProMag are too small and fiddly and uncomfortable. The cartridge stack issue seems to have the possibility of working if the user learns how to use the magazine.

My opinion: Glock didn’t make something like these for commercial sale because they aren’t nearly as reliable as the 10 rounds, all cartridge noses lined up magazines are. And the Glock follower tabs are vastly superior, more comfortable, easier to use, and the magazine spring tension is easier, too.

I’ll probably run another couple hundred through the ProMag and then maybe karma it to someone who wants to try it.

1022 rounds through G44 to date. I like it.

[HJB]

I'm up to 950 rounds through my 44 and still have yet to have a light strike or any FTE or FTF. I should say I almost never run the gun to slide lock, just leave a round in the chamber and replace mags. I also clean the the gun and re lubricate after every range session (last few have been 200 rounds per). After 550 I did replace the connector with a Lone Wolf 3.5 and Wolff Striker Safety Spring which did help me soften the extremely hard wall the trigger came to which I like more.

You say you almost never run a gun to slide lock, and I saw a video where the guy usually doesn't do it either, and makes a point when he does that it is "for demonstration purposes only."

So, explain to me the issues and reasons that you should be careful about that. I have not ever seen an explanation for why this is a bad idea.

Thanks

[diananike]

Isn’t it just a recognition that if you count your rounds you never have to have an empty gun?

Paul Harrell always says that and it bugs me.

Personally I run my guns to slide lock all the time so I get another rep of speed reloading.

[Duelist]

Isn’t it just a recognition that if you count your rounds you never have to have an empty gun?

Paul Harrell always says that and it bugs me.

Personally I run my guns to slide lock all the time so I get another rep of speed reloading.

I recommend that you not spend too much time or effort worrying about things Paul H says or does that bug you. Some of what he does is interesting, some of his videos are fun to watch, but he does say and do things I disagree with on the regular.

He’s just another sumdood on youtube. If you find value there, cool, if you find something wonky, recognize it and move on.

If you don’t run your gun to empty, you also won’t know what it does when it’s empty.

[littlejerry]

I reached out to McFadden again recently and they said their adapter is still in development.

I fear once my McFadden loader works with G44 mags I'll demolish my 22lr stockpile.

[Duelist]

I reached out to McFadden again recently and they said their adapter is still in development.

I fear once my McFadden loader works with G44 mags I'll demolish my 22lr stockpile.

Sounds like you need more .22LR.

[lwt16]

65457

25 yard freestyle off hand. My G44 hates RWS 40 grain but runs 100% on:

Federal Automatch
CCI Standard velocity
Winchester
Aguila Standard velocity

That’s all I had on hand. I have a 50 caliber ammo can full of the RWS so I guess I’ll be good at clearing malfunctions.

Regards.

[HJB]

I recommend that you not spend too much time or effort worrying about things Paul H says or does that bug you. Some of what he does is interesting, some of his videos are fun to watch, but he does say and do things I disagree with on the regular.

He’s just another sumdood on youtube. If you find value there, cool, if you find something wonky, recognize it and move on.

If you don’t run your gun to empty, you also won’t know what it does when it’s empty.

Yes, he's the guy. I had to go look because I didn't know his name. So, his reason for not running a gun to empty is not because of any gun mechanical or damage problem ? It has to do with counting your rounds ? I mostly never count my rounds.

[Up1911Fan]

Anyone know if a Gadget will work with the 44?

[Duelist]

Anyone know if a Gadget will work with the 44?

Not yet. Will take a different part than a standard one, IIRC.

[BillSWPA]

Discovered something else about the standard plastic Glock sights: the front post width is about 0.150 inch, and the rear notch is about 0.135 inch wide. Hopefully we will see more and better sight options for changing the sights on the polymer slide.

[psalms144.1]

Took a pair of 18 year olds to the range on Monday with the G44 - ran about 200 rounds total through it without incident. It continues to be reliable, accurate and a great trainer for someone not ready for a centerfire Glock yet. I've got well north of 1,000 rounds through mine, mixed Aguila Super Extra and whatever cheap fodder I can find at Wally World, Rural King, etc. Haven't cleaned it yet, or added any lube since the initial take down, wipe off and relube.

Need moar mag and .22 ammo...

I agree that it would be nice to have better sight options, but, at this point, I'll take what I can get.

[lwt16]

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I'm really pleased with the G44 and use it regularly to train shooters in trigger work.

Regards.

[Joe Mac]

I agree that it would be nice to have better sight options, but, at this point, I'll take what I can get.

I haven't read this whole thread; are folks having trouble installing sights on the G44?

When I got mine I simply installed a set of Ameriglo Hacks I had in my spare sights box, and off I went.. The rear did shave away a tiny bit of polymer when I pushed it in, but no matter – it's in there solidly and I won't be changing it. The front installed as easily as on any other Glock slide.

[jandbj]

I agree that it would be nice to have better sight options, but, at this point, I'll take what I can get.

I put an Ameriglo defoor front on mine, left the factory rear and sharpie’d out the goal post. No issues in many 1000’s of rounds. Didn’t even have to adjust the rear sight.

[BillSWPA]

Looking further into the issue of sights, Nelson Precision Manufacturing has some styles of their slides back in stock. I ordered one with standard height sights to see how they work out. If it goes well, I may try it with a red dot.

https://www.nelsonprecisionmfg.com/product-page/44x-carry-slide

Dawson Precision does not offer rear sights, but does offer front sights of two different widths, both of which are narrower than the Glock polymer rear sight, They offer a variety of different heights.

https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-glock-standard-front-sights/

[BillSWPA]

I put an Ameriglo defoor front on mine, left the factory rear and sharpie’d out the goal post. No issues in many 1000’s of rounds. Didn’t even have to adjust the rear sight.

Do you know the height of the Ameriglo Defoor front sight?

[jandbj]

Do you know the height of the Ameriglo Defoor front sight?

Was from a G19 set. I think whatever is in the GT-504 package deal. I like the thinner front.

[BillSWPA]

Was from a G19 set. I think whatever is in the GT-504 package deal. I like the thinner front.

Thanks! I completely agree about the thinner front.

[professor]

Dawson Precision does not offer rear sights, but does offer front sights of two different widths, both of which are narrower than the Glock polymer rear sight, They offer a variety of different heights.




I’m running the same sights on both of mine that I run on my competition Glocks. The standard Glock Dawson rear with an Ameriglo front. I installed them when I first got the guns 16 months ago. [emoji848] Between the two guns, I’m about 10K on one gun and 5K on the other.

I have seen installs where people over tightened the rear and damaged the slide. The rear sights were lifted .060” or more.

[BillSWPA]

I’m running the same sights on both of mine that I run on my competition Glocks. The standard Glock Dawson rear with an Ameriglo front. I installed them when I first got the guns 16 months ago. [emoji848] Between the two guns, I’m about 10K on one gun and 5K on the other.

I have seen installs where people over tightened the rear and damaged the slide. The rear sights were lifted .060” or more.

Good point. I was previously concerned about a metal dovetail deforming a polymer slide, when ordinarily the slide should be deforming the sight dovetail. Deformation through over-tightening a set screw seems to be a very easy mistake to make. To the extent that my own solution uses the original slide, it will use Glock OEM polymer rear sights only.

[Wendell]

Do you know the height of the Ameriglo Defoor front sight?

https://ameriglo.com/uploads/2020AmeriGloCatalog_SinglePagesForWeb.pdf

[BillSWPA]

https://ameriglo.com/uploads/2020AmeriGloCatalog_SinglePagesForWeb.pdf

Thank you for this link. The width looks like it will work well with a Glock factory polymer rear. What I hope to confirm is that the height of the front sight is the same as a Glock polymer front sight.

Since the plain black is not expensive and is my preference for this purpose, I took a chance and ordered a set, so hopefully I will be able to confirm that this is the case in about a week.

[DDTSGM]

Looking further into the issue of sights, Nelson Precision Manufacturing has some styles of their slides back in stock. I ordered one with standard height sights to see how they work out. If it goes well, I may try it with a red dot.

https://www.nelsonprecisionmfg.com/product-page/44x-carry-slide

Well, before they sell you one, I'd appreciate it if they'd send me the one I ordered two months ago - April 12th to be exact.

[BillSWPA]

For anyone considering replacing the front sight, the original polymer sight is 0.160 inch high.


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[BillSWPA]

The Ameriglo Defoor front sight is 0.165 inch high - close enough to the original Glock plastic front sight so that the difference in elevation will be very difficult to notice.


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[Wake27]

The Ameriglo Defoor front sight is 0.165 inch high - close enough to the original Glock plastic front sight so that the difference in elevation will be very difficult to notice.


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Thanks. I haven’t really kept tabs on this thread or general info about the G44 but I have been feeling like my Ameriglo Bolds aren’t working as well as I’d hoped on mine.


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[BillSWPA]

Thanks. I haven’t really kept tabs on this thread or general info about the G44 but I have been feeling like my Ameriglo Bolds aren’t working as well as I’d hoped on mine.


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Thank you, but it was Jamdbj who identified the correct front sight which was both sufficiently thin for the plastic rear notch and the correct height. I only quantified what he found.

[HTM]

Thanks. I haven’t really kept tabs on this thread or general info about the G44 but I have been feeling like my Ameriglo Bolds aren’t working as well as I’d hoped on mine.


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What rear sight are you mounting? With the stock poly adjustable sights I installed the 4.9 front to give have more adjustment for elevation. The stock 4.1 hit high at the lowest adjustment.

[Up1911Fan]

Well, before they sell you one, I'd appreciate it if they'd send me the one I ordered two months ago - April 12th to be exact.

Ordered mine on 12/31. Get in line lol.

[BillSWPA]

Ordered mine on 12/31. Get in line lol.

The home page indicates that all pre-ordered slides are scheduled to be shipped by the end of this month. Hopefully that proves to be correct.

When I ordered my 44x Carry Slide recently, I did not see any indication of a pre-order, but simply clicked "add to cart," which seems to indicate that it would be in stock. Other versions of the Glock 44 slide showed out of stock or pre-order only. That is the only reason I picked that version of the slide.

[professor]

Ordered mine on 12/31. Get in line lol.

LoL

I was thinking the same thing. I ordered mine 12/31 also. [emoji3]

[professor]

The home page indicates that all pre-ordered slides are scheduled to be shipped by the end of this month. Hopefully that proves to be correct.


I’m glad to see they updated the webpage and the ship date hasn’t changed.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210610/d35f766a9cb5ab932d5d82e4fef1b6b9.jpg

[TWR]

https://www.primaryarms.com/glock-44-magazine-10-round-22-lr

Good deal on mags but the main thing I wanted to add is how much better these load. I had 8 mags from when I bought my pistol new I also bought all the extra mags he had. From the get go I had to pay attention to how the last 3 rounds loaded into the mag, always making sure they didn’t nose dive a little. All 5 of these new mags pop all the rounds up without messing with them, I couldn’t make one nose dive. Not sure if they changed something but I’m tempted to order 5 more.