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That Guy
01-22-2020, 07:58 AM
I have a new-for-me Ruger Speed Six with a 2 3/4" barrel.

Very few places mention holster compatibility with a Speed Six. If a holster fits a Security Six the fit should be exact, as far as I've understood. The Internets also claim a holster meant for a K-Frame would fit, but I would like to confirm this from a more reliable source, such as you guys. Any difference between leather and kydex (if such a thing even exists as a Kydex K-frame holster... :p ), or something else like that one should take into consideration before buying a holster meant for a K-frame for use with a Ruger Speed Six?

To facilitate a faster sight picture, I painted the front sight orange (with a white undercoat first). This works very well in good light. However, in poorer light (like say around dusk, or shooting at the local outdoor range after dark with the range floodlights on) the orange color tends to disappear. The front sight appears to be pinned in place so in theory it is replaceable. The Internet claims a Ruger SP101 front sight will fit, just needs a hole drilled in the right place for the retaining pin. But is that actually true? And are the sights the same height?

Nj Det 354
01-22-2020, 08:43 AM
Don Hume made dedicated Ruger Security Six holsters. They fit the Speed Six. Same gun just different sights.

BehindBlueI's
01-22-2020, 09:52 AM
Leather k-frame holsters will fit. No idea on kydex.

csheehy
01-22-2020, 11:40 AM
Watching this with interest. Picked up a mint-ish blued Service Six 4" .357 last year from a co-worker. Found a set of the Rogers/Safariland synthetic grips on eBay. There was a holster available on there that claims to by former NYPD issue. Kind of a hybrid IWB/OWB thing. has a metal clip on the outide edge for IMB and belt slots on the other side for OWB. There are a few on their now in pancake style for shorter barreled Rugers.

paherne
01-22-2020, 12:02 PM
Ted Blocker can make holsters for the Ruger Six series.

BobM
01-22-2020, 02:01 PM
Simply Rugged also lists fits for the older Rugers.

mmc45414
01-26-2020, 10:04 AM
(if such a thing even exists as a Kydex K-frame holster)
JMCK makes several, including 2.75". Wonder about loosening them a little, or (blasphemous!) heating one up a bit.


The front sight appears to be pinned in place so in theory it is replaceable. The Internet claims a Ruger SP101 front sight will fit, just needs a hole drilled in the right place for the retaining pin. But is that actually true? And are the sights the same height?
I have a Gemini Small Wonder in mine, and it is 0.135 tall and about 0.130 wide, and it did come not drilled.
ETA: It is an older one, might double check on current production.

willie
01-26-2020, 10:49 AM
As said, leather K frame holsters fit. Bianchi is the brand that I use for both. Any holster advertised to fit a 21/2 K frame would work.

That Guy
01-26-2020, 01:33 PM
JMCK makes several, including 2.75". Wonder about loosening them a little, or (blasphemous!) heating one up a bit.


A JMCK holster would be great. What say you, Tony Mayer? Would a Ruger Speed Six fit into a S&W holster, either K-frame or L-frame?

Tony Mayer
01-26-2020, 06:42 PM
A JMCK holster would be great. What say you, Tony Mayer? Would a Ruger Speed Six fit into a S&W holster, either K-frame or L-frame?

Guys, not sure if the Speed Six fit our K/L frame mold, i don't own a Speed six to verify fitment. I can make a holster for our K frame and the end user can let me know if it fits. If it doesn't I can refund the holster completely. If someone wants to give it a go order using the K frame and let me know in the comments that it's for the Speed Six and I will now what's happening.

Thanks

Dog Guy
01-27-2020, 06:33 PM
I'm local to JMCK and I have a Speed Six. PM me if you'd like me to bring it by for you to check fitment.

JonInWA
01-27-2020, 07:25 PM
I agree with the others based on my empirical experience as well; leather K-Frame holsters will work. For a field holster, Bianchi's UM84R will work for both K, L, and GP100-sized revolvers.

Years ago, I had Blade-Tech make a kydex IWB form my 4" Security Six; it's very much my go-to holster for most carry and competition (IDPA) needs, but I have no idea if they're still making the same holster.

My thought is that the -Six trigger guard shape differentiation between K-Frame revolvers is sufficiently different that it alone might induce fit issues precluding commonality/shared use with kydex holsters between the manufacturers. In kydex, I counsel a specifically fitting holster for a given specific gun.

Best, Jon

mmc45414
01-28-2020, 07:08 AM
My thought is that the -Six trigger guard shape differentiation between K-Frame revolvers is sufficiently different
Good point, Tony also does a 3" GP, perhaps that would be easier to adapt/tweak/tighten.

Norville
01-28-2020, 07:47 AM
A JMCK holster would be great. What say you, Tony Mayer? Would a Ruger Speed Six fit into a S&W holster, either K-frame or L-frame?

My 3” Service Six (square butt, fixed sights) fits in my IWB #3 for my 4” GP100 better than the K frame version of the same holster.

But it fits my Tiffany Blue AIWB for a 3” K frame perfectly.

Go figure

Tony Mayer
01-28-2020, 01:22 PM
I'm local to JMCK and I have a Speed Six. PM me if you'd like me to bring it by for you to check fitment.


Dog Guy, will do. Thanks

That Guy
03-04-2020, 01:22 AM
Dog Guy, will do. Thanks

Did you guys have a chance to test fit a Ruger Six in some holsters?

Tony Mayer
03-04-2020, 01:45 PM
Did you guys have a chance to test fit a Ruger Six in some holsters?

Not yet, sorry. Been burning the candle at both ends. Will hopefully have something in the next few days. Thanks

Tony Mayer
03-04-2020, 01:46 PM
I'm local to JMCK and I have a Speed Six. PM me if you'd like me to bring it by for you to check fitment.

Dog Guy, can you swing by my shop this Friday?

Thanks

Rex G
03-04-2020, 02:04 PM
My 2.75” and 4” Speed Sixes fit perfectly into my JMCK AIWB 3” GP100 holster. The 4” protrudes through the bottom opening, of course. I acquired the holster second-hand, so am unsure of the exact AIWB variant, but I would think (?) that JMCK uses the same GP100 mold for all Holster models.

This same holster fits my 3” GP100 perfectly, too, so it was not tweaked to fit the Speed Sixes.

That Guy
03-04-2020, 02:33 PM
I would think (?) that JMCK uses the same GP100 mold for all Holster models.


It appears there might be some sort of variance, as reported by Norville earlier. Looking forward to hearing the test results from the fitting.

Bunch of leather holster options out there for immediate purchase, but it seems all of them have 1 3/4" belt loops. My belts, and belt loops, tend to be 1 1/2".

Dog Guy
03-04-2020, 02:34 PM
Dog Guy, can you swing by my shop this Friday?

Thanks

Yes. What time and exactly where? Or PM or email details.

That Guy
03-04-2020, 02:42 PM
Has anyone tried using a Sickinger Gunfighter with a shorter barrel weapon? Sickinger only makes the holster for K-frames with 4" (or 6") barrel, and the retention adjustment is located very low on the holster. I'm concerned the adjustment may not work with a 2 3/4" barrel.

Tony Mayer
03-04-2020, 10:03 PM
Yes. What time and exactly where? Or PM or email details.

Dog Guy, how about 9:00 AM ?

We are at
755 East Greg st
Suite 16
Sparks, NV 89431

Thanks

Dog Guy
03-05-2020, 12:35 AM
Dog Guy, how about 9:00 AM ?

We are at
755 East Greg st
Suite 16
Sparks, NV 89431

Thanks

Got it. See you then.

Tony Mayer
03-06-2020, 01:20 PM
Did you guys have a chance to test fit a Ruger Six in some holsters?

We tested the Speed Six in our K frame holster, works pretty well, has a bit of play but not much. Good positive click in for retention. if you PM me your telephone number I can send a quick video of it to you.

Thanks

That Guy
03-07-2020, 01:10 PM
We tested the Speed Six in our K frame holster, works pretty well, has a bit of play but not much. Good positive click in for retention.

So the holster could be tensioned so there's no rattle or anything like that?


For a field holster, Bianchi's UM84R will work for both K, L, and GP100-sized revolvers.


Where would one get one? They don't seem to be widely offered, and the few places that have them won't ship outside the US.

JonInWA
03-07-2020, 06:01 PM
So the holster could be tensioned so there's no rattle or anything like that?



Where would one get one? They don't seem to be widely offered, and the few places that have them won't ship outside the US.
Bianchi is under Safariland; just go to the Safariland site, or check Amazon, etc. Best, Jon

That Guy
03-07-2020, 06:29 PM
Bianchi is under Safariland; just go to the Safariland site, or check Amazon, etc. Best, Jon

Hey man, give me some credit - obviously if a place like Amazon would ship Safariland products outside US, I wouldn't have to ask.

eBay has usually been quite convenient for me in these matters, but there aren't any even there.

JonInWA
03-07-2020, 07:19 PM
Did you check directly with Bianchi/Safariland? Obviously you'll pay full retail, but at least you'd get what you want. Best, Jon

Tony Mayer
03-07-2020, 08:50 PM
So the holster could be tensioned so there's no rattle or anything like that?
That Guy, it will have a bit of play no matter what, but it's not much. PM me your cell number and I can send you the video I did. Thanks




Where would one get one? They don't seem to be widely offered, and the few places that have them won't ship outside the US.

That Guy
03-08-2020, 08:26 AM
Did you check directly with Bianchi/Safariland?

Safariland does not sell directly outside of the US.

That Guy
05-21-2020, 08:57 AM
Can a Pachmayr stock meant for a Security Six be used on a Speed Six?

Zeke38
05-21-2020, 11:58 AM
Can't help you with the leather but a P95 semi auto Ruger front sight will interchange with your SS sight. You can get that sight in a night sight version. Trijicon or Meprolight. Same keyway cut on both weapons for front sight.

Poconnor
05-21-2020, 12:17 PM
The security six and service six are square butt. the speed six is a round butt; so no they don’t use the same grips.

Chuck Whitlock
05-22-2020, 06:37 PM
Can a Pachmayr stock meant for a Security Six be used on a Speed Six?


The security six and service six are square butt. the speed six is a round butt; so no they don’t use the same grips.


Yeah, but....

The corners of the Speed-Six grip frame are rounded, compared to the Security/Service-Six. But the difference is not so dramatic as on a S&W K frame. I would expect some gaps at the lower corner of a grip with an exposed backstrap, but something like the Presentation grip may work ok.

That Guy
05-23-2020, 07:28 AM
I would expect some gaps at the lower corner of a grip with an exposed backstrap, but something like the Presentation grip may work ok.

Thanks!

I tried to keep my post short and sweet for once and managed to leave out that I was looking for the Presentation stocks. Not exactly what I was hoping for, for the Speed Six, but I know from previous experience that they work well even with heavy recoiling, and they are available. I'm going to try these. I should have them by late June, we'll see then whether they fit or not.

That Guy
06-04-2020, 10:58 AM
A package just arrived.

Inside it was a set of old Pachmayr Presentation stocks I bought from an Ye Olde Militaria Shoppe in the UK. (Surprisingly fast shipping! I wasn't expecting them for another week or two.) They came with a cute old style box that was pretty beat up, they were grungy, and the stocks had (well, have...) an authentic mil-surp smell. About ten seconds with an old toothbrush and some liquid soap got rid of the whateverthehell was on the stocks, but unfortunately the smell still lingers (and in fact, now my hands smell like musty old milsurp :p ).

Anyways, a quick scrub, rinse and dry later I soon had the stocks on the gun. And what do you know, it felt like a perfect fit! Once the mounting screw was tightened, grabbing the revolver in one hand and the stocks in another, I was unable to make the stocks wiggle in any direction. The gun functions like it should, nothing feels impeded in any way. And it looks like there is room for a HKS speed loader next to the grip as well, although since I destroyed my snap caps in this calibre I didn't test this very thoroughly. But I have high hopes for the upcoming live fire test!

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It was a bit tricky to take a picture that shows the size difference between the two stocks, but it is not very significant. Main difference is that one is a round butt stock and the other squared - height-wise, width-wise they seem quite similar. Even the trigger reach doesn't seem to be affected too much!

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The shop had two sizes of Pachmayr Presentation grips for Security Sixes. This one was described as "small".