View Full Version : Ruger A Team Folding Stock
Tokarev
01-16-2020, 05:48 AM
Actually called the A-TM stock..
https://www.guns.com/news/2020/01/10/new-side-folding-stocks-for-the-ruger-10-22-and-mini-14-rifles
There were some pics from SHOT last year. Not sure why the delay but hopefully the stocks will be shipping soon. I have a Mini-14 in 300 BLK that will pair nicely with this folder.
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bofe954
01-16-2020, 09:08 AM
Actually called the A-TM stock..
https://www.guns.com/news/2020/01/10/new-side-folding-stocks-for-the-ruger-10-22-and-mini-14-rifles
There were some pics from SHOT last year. Not sure why the delay but hopefully the stocks will be shipping soon. I have a Mini-14 in 300 BLK that will pair nicely with this folder.
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I'm amazed it's taken this long.
Casual Friday
01-16-2020, 09:30 AM
TBH an A-Team clone would be the only reason I'd own a Mini 14.
Guerrero
01-16-2020, 09:51 AM
And the "B-TM" stock for a 10/22
Horseman
01-16-2020, 09:55 AM
I pity the fool that doesn't get one.
314159
01-16-2020, 10:08 AM
I recall these stocks being very highly thought of, and not just because of the A-Team association. I might have handled one once but have no serious memory of their utility.
Anyone care to step in here and pontificate on how good or bad these were as stocks?
bofe954
01-16-2020, 10:38 AM
I recall these stocks being very highly thought of, and not just because of the A-Team association. I might have handled one once but have no serious memory of their utility.
Anyone care to step in here and pontificate on how good or bad these were as stocks?
I know someone with one and have extremely limited use of it, but it was sturdy when extended and you use the rifle with it folded easily which made it fun. It suffers from "don't want to press my face on a metal bar" cheekweld issues like all the metal stocks.
Would make a handy packable 10/22 that could be carried/fired while folded unlike the takedown. Wouldn't have to worry as much about losing zero with a scope, although the scope cheekweld wouldn't be great. If you don't already own a mini 14 it would seem like kind of an expensive rifle to put together relative to an AR, but that's been the mini's issue forever.
RAM Engineer
01-16-2020, 01:43 PM
What gets me is Ruger could have done this years ago, but they chose to leave money on the table.
Tokarev
01-16-2020, 06:05 PM
Ruger quit making the original folder when the Clinton ban passed. They, like everyone else, figured the writing was on the way and the ban would be permanent. The tooling was repurposed and the plans long forgotten.
After the ban's sunset everyone kind of wondered if the original stock would come back. I've seen quite a few threads over the years about these and whether or not Ruger would make them again. Bunches of people said they'd buy them if the price was right.
I think that "price is right" is what's kept Ruger from bringing these back. Ruger guessed a new stock would run $350-ish and would push the Mini-14 price up that much more than it currently sells for.
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Lester Polfus
01-16-2020, 06:07 PM
I love it when a plan comes together.
Bigghoss
01-16-2020, 06:43 PM
Damnit. I had finally gotten over my desire for a Mini-14. I guess now I have to buy one, no way around it.
dogcaller
01-16-2020, 07:42 PM
I have one (an old one, not this new iteration). It and the Mini were gifted to me when a buddy somehow managed to bulge the end of the bbl on his Mini and went to the AR platform. I had a smith cut off the end/bulged part and reattach the front sight. Put a Sig RDS on the scout mount and makes a handy little package, not that it gets out much.
Those stocks are pretty sweet, minus the bar cheek weld. I still think I probably should have sold it for big money during the AWB when I had a chance...
RAM Engineer
01-16-2020, 08:06 PM
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fatdog
01-16-2020, 08:13 PM
AI have a Mini-14 in 300 BLK that will pair nicely with this folder.
Sorry for drift here, but a question, does that .300BLK version shoot well? I had an early '80's and a late 80's Mini-14's, both were horrible, like 10 moa guns....
I will probably buy the A team version of such a gun if I am convinced it will hit the side of a barn in its current iteration...sentimental thing.
Joe in PNG
01-16-2020, 08:14 PM
Wonder if they'll make one for the PC 9?
Tokarev
01-16-2020, 08:23 PM
Sorry for drift here, but a question, does that .300BLK version shoot well? I had an early '80's and a late 80's Mini-14's, both were horrible, like 10 moa guns....
I will probably buy the A team version of such a gun if I am convinced it will hit the side of a barn in its current iteration...sentimental thing.Yeah it shoots pretty well.
Ruger revamped the Mini a few years ago. Fixed a few minor things and started using CHF barrels.
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JR1572
01-16-2020, 09:02 PM
I have one on an ac556. It’s ok, but I rather the Choate ac556 side folder because it’s more comfortable. One day I’ll get a Butler Creek side folder for a mini-14 milled out for the ac556 and see if I like it better than the Choate.
Poconnor
01-17-2020, 11:07 AM
I might finally buy a mini 14
Trooper224
01-17-2020, 01:51 PM
Oh great, they're bringing back one of the worst folding stocks ever designed. As perhaps the only person here who was ever issued a Mini-14 with one of these abominations, you don't want one. They go loosey goosey very quickly and there's no way to tighten them back up. Never mind the non-existent ergos.
ST911
01-17-2020, 01:53 PM
As perhaps the only person here who was ever issued a Mini-14 with one of these abominations, you don't want one.
Oh no, there's a bunch of Mini/AC variant vets here. :D
314159
01-22-2020, 10:12 AM
Good to know, thanks Trooper. It always did strike me as an overly complex design.
Tokarev
01-30-2020, 06:13 AM
Taking pre-orders
https://www.samson-mfg.com/a-tm-folding-stock-for-the-ruger-mini-14.html
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Bigghoss
01-30-2020, 08:53 AM
Oh great, they're bringing back one of the worst folding stocks ever designed. As perhaps the only person here who was ever issued a Mini-14 with one of these abominations, you don't want one. They go loosey goosey very quickly and there's no way to tighten them back up. Never mind the non-existent ergos.
Nobody here is going to buy one for practical reasons. Looking cool is the only thing that matters. Keep the stock folded and shoot out the side door of a speeding black van.
Bigghoss
01-30-2020, 09:00 AM
Wonder if they'll make one for the PC 9?
Thanks for reminding me I need a PC9. I'm looking at one on GB with the peep sight trying to decide if I really want to pay that much for a used 9mm blowback rifle. I paid less for an unfired CX4.
Tokarev
01-30-2020, 12:51 PM
Nobody here is going to buy one for practical reasons. Looking cool is the only thing that matters. Keep the stock folded and shoot out the side door of a speeding black van.We pity you, fool!
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RevolverRob
01-30-2020, 02:51 PM
And the "B-TM" stock for a 10/22
I was always more of a B-Team kind of guy, anyways.
So...10/22 variant for me!
I actually think the 10/22 variant is pretty cool.
Like an AR180, a .22 Thompson, and a .22 MP40 - there is something about recreating your favorite guns in a smaller caliber that works better, mostly because you actually get to shoot and enjoy them.
I enjoyed the trigger time I've had on an AC-556K. Aside from a factory SBR-esque config like the AC556K, I can't imagine this stock has a whole lot of practicality. As others have mentioned, there are better folding stocks for Mini-14's on the market.
For the 80's flavor of the high-speed-low-drag shorty 5.56, though, it sure is charismatic and fun on the AC556K.
SBRing an older Mini-14, installing a ~13in beefier 1/7 barrel of some flavor, and installing one of these folding stocks would be a fun way to enjoy the same charisma for about 1/6th the price, though without the giggle-switch. But that same ~$1500-2k worth of gun would go a lot further in the AR world.
Interesting how the SBR'd AR world is creeping toward a 12.5-13.5in barrel now after years of 11.5's and 10.3's, and the AC-556K was 13in back 'before it was cool'.
LOKNLOD
01-31-2020, 07:12 AM
Ruger needs to offer an SBR-ready “charger” version of the Mini that would be perfect to drop into one of these with paperwork.
One of these stocks with a folding Tailhook brace instead of the butt would be along shortly.
RevolverRob
01-31-2020, 10:26 AM
Ruger needs to offer an SBR-ready “charger” version of the Mini that would be perfect to drop into one of these with paperwork.
One of these stocks with a folding Tailhook brace instead of the butt would be along shortly.
Dude, brilliant idea for the .22 version too. A tailhook + Charger Pistol would be an awesome little woods/camping gun.
I’m sure someone actually has a tailhook folding brace for the Chargwr.
Hell they have a tailhook brace you can mount to an Auto Ordnance Thompson Pistol.
beenalongtime
01-31-2020, 10:39 AM
Nobody here is going to buy one for practical reasons. Looking cool is the only thing that matters. Keep the stock folded and shoot out the side door of a speeding black van.
You must have money to blow. Why would someone want a device, based on a tv show where the shooters, NEVER hit who they are shooting at?
Bigghoss
01-31-2020, 11:00 AM
You must have money to blow. Why would someone want a device, based on a tv show where the shooters, NEVER hit who they are shooting at?
It's the middle sentence in the quote.
Nobody here is going to buy one for practical reasons. Looking cool is the only thing that matters. Keep the stock folded and shoot out the side door of a speeding black van.
Literally the only reason I want one. Literally the only reason anyone here wants one. We all know there are better guns that can do anything the Mini can do and more. I don't know if I'll actually get one but if I do it'll only be because it's cool. A lot of my guns I bought just because they're cool. We're not here for a long time so you gotta do stuff that makes you smile. For me that's owning too many guns for dumb reasons.
LOKNLOD
01-31-2020, 01:17 PM
For the 80's flavor of the high-speed-low-drag shorty 5.56, though, it sure is charismatic and fun on the AC556K
I wonder if a half smoked stogie would fit in match-saver shot shell mount, so you’re always prepared to look like Hannibal?
Tokarev
01-31-2020, 03:17 PM
You must have money to blow. Why would someone want a device, based on a tv show where the shooters, NEVER hit who they are shooting at?
Those A Team guns were the older pre-hammer forged barrel guns. Very inaccurate!
:D
Tokarev
01-31-2020, 03:34 PM
Some decent pics. Samson really got the look right. Only thing I could see to complain about is the wrong gas block. Maybe someone will come out with a retro left side swivel version.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/01/30/shot-2020-a-tm-b-tm-folding-stocks/
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