SCCY CPX-RD: worthy of consideration? [Archive]

TicTacticalTimmy

01-12-2020, 12:43 AM

Joe in PNG

01-12-2020, 02:02 AM

It's a gun that I'd like to see someone else do a 2k test on, but wouldn't want to spend my own money to do so.

If you want to do so, please do, and post the results.

idahojess

01-12-2020, 02:05 AM

Claude Werner has shot them.

https://tacticalprofessor.wordpress.com/tag/sccy/

I think he is still a member here.

Duelist

01-12-2020, 03:32 AM

SCCY, maker of very inexpensive 9mm DAO pistols, is coming out with a factory red dot option on all their guns. They use the Crimson Trace 1500 MRDS, which as far as I know is new for 2020, and the factory front sight is visible through the notch in the red dot sight. For those unfamiliar these are copies if the KelTec P11. They use a 10 round staggered magazine sort of like a G48, with a chassis system and a grip frame that is a bit thicker than a G48. The MSRP is just $100 over the normal models, so street price should be $300 out the door.

I have been searching for a DAO or DA/SA option for when I dont feel like packing my P07. One big problem with every option I have looked at is the sights. DAO pistols arent "in" right now and, besides the Springfield XDE, no one even makes a DA/SA in this size class. If this proves to be shootable and reliable, and the Crimson Trace MRDS acts like my Holosun, this little pistol could potentially change that. Additionally the price is one half that of a Kahr P9 with aftermaket sights, which seems to be the only legitimate option on the market right now.

I have never fired a SCCY pistol. I did handle one in a gun shop. The gun felt cheap, too big for a pocket pistol, and with its crappy sights I didnt think of it as a serious consideration for an IWB/AIWB pistol and lost interest.

Anyone have info on the durability, reliability, etc. Of these guns? Can the triggers be smoothed out with some polishing?

I have put 56 rounds through one. I hated every moment of it.

It ran the 50 ball rounds I forced myself to complete just fine, but couldn’t get through the magazine of JHPs. Got hung up just trying to load the rounds from the magazine into the chamber, every single round. Blech.

I can see the design similarities to the P11 as I owned and carried a P11 for several years, but if it is a copy, it is a poopy one. My P11 ran with everything I ever fired through it, the magazines were vastly superior, materials and workmanship were superior, trigger was better and it was more accurate. I sold it to get something I wanted more that was easier to shoot well, but it was a reliable and functional gun I’d carry again (after replacing the crap sights). I have a P32 I won’t get rid of, as when I need a functional gun smaller than a cell phone, there it is.

I won’t fire another round through a SCCY, let alone subject myself to the punishment of a 2000 round test. The only reason I still have the one I fired is that it belongs to a friend who needs me to host his firearms in my safe. I’d sooner run a 2k round test with a S&W SD40 or SD9. Those are a pleasure to shoot in comparison.

pooty

01-12-2020, 03:53 AM

The one I had, a SCCY-2, recoiled a lot harder than a G26, it's pretty hard to shoot one handed especially with sweaty hands. There aren't any WML made for it either so you'd be forced to shoot it one handed, at night.

While I carried it I couldn't wait to switch to a different gun. It's kind of a pain in the ass to carry AIWB for some reason, I think because of the shape of the muzzle end most of the pistol carries outside and over the belt line.

edit: When they go on sale I might buy a one as a 'stash gun' but never a carry gun or even a loaner.

Whirlwind06

01-12-2020, 05:21 AM

Back when I carried a Kel-Tec P11 these had pretty bad rep for breaking even more the Kel-Tec.

The rds is a cool option though and maybe they have fixed the problems now with the 4 generation.

There are trigger kits for them now
https://gallowayprecision.com/sccy/cpx/short-stroke-trigger-kit-for-sccy-cpx-pistols

Shooting the P11 wasn't fun, it's up there with jframe level of not fun OMMV.

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Jamie

01-12-2020, 06:28 AM

I had one I purchased from a fellow locally back in 2018. I don't even know if he ever shot it.

I put a bit over 1000 rounds through it before giving it to my Son. (He doesn't carry but wanted an inexpensive "house gun". "Free" was well within his budget.)

I had several failures to feed within the first 100 or so rounds handloaded ball ammo (7 or 8). The handloads included 130 gr powder coated we cast, 124 gr plated Berry's and 147 gr FMJ. The feeding issues disappeared after the first 100 rounds, the majority were within the first 50 rounds.

I tried several SD type rounds with varying success... 124 & 147 gr HST, 147 gr Golden Saber, 124 gr Black Hills 124 gr +P (Gold Dot bullets), 124 gr and 147 gr Speer Gold Dots... it was hit or miss as far as the feeding went. The old Corbon Pow'RBall feed great, but is pretty darn snappy in this light weight gun, expensive as well.

The trigger, as mentioned, is very revolver-like requiring a full length release/reset. But I warmed up to it pretty fast, but definitely admit to short stroking it at first.
I blacked out the rear dots and put orange Testor's paint on the front sight.

For such a light gun I didn't find it punishing to shoot, especially with range fodder (handloads or WWB etc).

It it no ways compares to my Glock 26, but that would be an "apples to oranges" comparison imho. For the less than $200.00 I paid for it I considered it a decent bargain.

If/when one of these shows up locally I plan to give it a lookover.

SCCY Marshal

01-12-2020, 10:17 PM

I put 50 rounds* through my CPX-3 (380 ACP, came with three 10-round magazines, no manual safety), today. It's up to a 500+ rounds in my hands, both kids, wife, several friends of various experience, friend's novice wife. Little thing runs reliably if the barrel and breech face/extractor are brushed every fifty rounds or so and slide rails lubed every hundred or so. Has not shown to be ammo sensitive, so far. Will chamber an empty case more often than not so I use one for ball and dummy drills. Also carries well at the range in a homeroll kydex clip-on AIWB.

The trigger did get very gritty and heavy early-ish on. Returned to mothership and came back quickly with a new trigger and no comment regarding all of the modifications done. Blacked out rear, glitter red nail polish over white primer coat on the front sight, reprofiled slide stop to prevent me riding it, corners hogged off the trigger and smoothed to round it out. Immediately reshaped the new trigger as I had the old and it's been running well for a couple hundred rounds since return. Not setting my USP40c or LCR aside to carry it but quite happy as a range toy/new shooter into piece for the price and how well behaved it is for everyone. No one has disliked it to date.

All stoppages have been while dirty or while screwing up the mags while loading (possible while they break in). Well, except one PPU hollowpoint but those have choked several other 380 ACPs in the safe.

All of that to say that I'll be ordering the RDS equipped CPX-2 when our tax return comes in. Even if I don't carry it, be an entertainment value and way to play with red dots on pistols.

https://i.imgur.com/gvwf79sl.jpg
With the wife's M&P 380 Shield EZ. The snout of the SCCY's frame is much more black, now.

https://i.imgur.com/YeDrtBCl.jpg
Front sight.

https://i.imgur.com/ZF6Fjwrl.jpg
Clean Wizard Drill from AIWB under a plaid flannel when testing the service work.

https://i.imgur.com/mTd7NPGl.jpg
And the OPOTA handgun qual for funsies. QIT equivalent traced from a cardboard stencil made from a P-T target, 6" CoM ring, and 4" headbox.

* Modification of the "Short Class for those new to Concealed Carry" in Claude Werner's Advanced Pistol Practice e-book. Traced CD's for the circles at five yards, last six-round string dropped to five shots, and N.R.A. MQP Defensive Pistol I Pro-Marksman level added at the end. Ran through to both play with a fun gun and practice the course of fire to have it on mind when taking a novice friend out shooting soon.

Edit: The trigger on my CPX-3 is genuinely good. Light and smooth. Not quite Beretta 92D good but good nonetheless.

10mmfanboy

01-12-2020, 10:26 PM

I believe the red dot versions are now striker fired.

SCCY Marshal

01-12-2020, 10:30 PM

I believe the red dot versions are now striker fired.

Negative. Just the standard CPX-1 (safety) and CPX-2 (no safety) milled for the dot. Someone has a decent test unit on Youtube, right now:

https://youtu.be/SRvaA32JsoA

Just looked at the video comments after letting it run in the background. SCCY is releasing a striker-fired gun in 2020. It will be called the DVG-1 and available with plain irons or milled-in RDS in addition to the DAO linr-up:

https://www.sccy.com/handguns/dvg/

No personal interest in that one but will be curious to hear what others think.

pooty

01-12-2020, 10:51 PM

How would you compare your Shield the to the SCCY?

TicTacticalTimmy

01-12-2020, 10:56 PM

While I carried it I couldn't wait to switch to a different gun. It's kind of a pain in the ass to carry AIWB for some reason, I think because of the shape of the muzzle end most of the pistol carries outside and over the belt line.
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That is one concern, the 3" barrel is just unnecessarily short for IWB carry, and I could see it tending to tip outward due to all the mass being in the grip. However, I would think good holster design could mitigate that. Would be nice if they released a 3.75" barreled version, or at least a threaded barrel.

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There are trigger kits for them now
https://gallowayprecision.com/sccy/cpx/short-stroke-trigger-kit-for-sccy-cpx-pistols

Neat upgrade. Price is very reasonable. However, I find it hard to believe you can reduce trigger travel in a DAO gun by 50%. I am also unsure it would be desirable. I do strongly prefer metal trigger shoes though.

I tried several SD type rounds with varying success... 124 & 147 gr HST, 147 gr Golden Saber, 124 gr Black Hills 124 gr +P (Gold Dot bullets), 124 gr and 147 gr Speer Gold Dots... it was hit or miss as far as the feeding went. The old Corbon Pow'RBall feed great, but is pretty darn snappy in this light weight gun, expensive as well.
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That is very dissapointing. If it cannot feed Gold Dots or HST's, that would be a deal breaker.

I put 50 rounds* through my CPX-3 (380 ACP, came with three 10-round magazines, no manual safety), today. It's up to a 500+ rounds in my hands, both kids, wife, several friends of various experience, friend's novice wife. Little thing runs reliably if the barrel and breech face/extractor are brushed every fifty rounds or so and slide rails lubed every hundred or so. Has not shown to be ammo sensitive, so far. Will chamber an empty case more often than not so I use one for ball and dummy drills. Also carries well at the range in a homeroll kydex clip-on AIWB.

All stoppages have been while dirty or while screwing up the mags while loading (possible while they break in). Well, except one PPU hollowpoint but those have choked several other 380 ACPs in the safe.

Edit: The trigger on my CPX-3 is genuinely good. Light and smooth. Not quite Beretta 92D good but good nonetheless.

Needing to clean every 100 rounds would be a dealbreaker for me....

Negative. Just the standard CPX-1 (safety) and CPX-2 (no safety) milled for the dot. Someone has a decent test unit on Youtube, right now:

https://youtu.be/SRvaA32JsoA

I will check that out. I really like his channel.

SCCY Marshal

01-12-2020, 11:00 PM

How would you compare your Shield the to the SCCY?

Very much not my Shield EZ so limited trigger time. The rollpin holding the loaded chamber indicator walked out the side and I had to re-center and flare the ends to hope it holds going forward. Also seems to run an assortment of ammo just fine. Bit less fussy about being kept squeaky clean. Borh slides are very easy to rack though my meathooks are less cramped on the taller SCCY slide. Recoil also comparable. Smith sights seem to drive the dot versus a dead center hold on the CPX-3. Would absolutely not consider the safetyless EZ. That is a rather light and short trigger so it'd creep me out.

However, and a big however for the target market, the Shield EZ is intolerant of limp-wristing. The CPX-3 runs for people that get stovepoes in the Smith:

https://i.imgur.com/jiq0C7vl.jpg

I prefer DAO or DA/SA to SAO in general so like my little cheapie. Wife adores her Shield EZ after years of trying to accept the recoil and muzzle vlast of 9x19mm pistols. Her timed shooting has improved more in a few range trips using the EZ than years of 9mm frustration in several guns.

SCCY Marshal

01-15-2020, 01:04 AM

I now have a problem:

https://www.sccy.com/handguns/cpx-3rd/

Do I get a 9mm with red dot as initially planned or the 380 ACP with red dot that I just learned about? Already have a .380 and the mags would all interchange. Also show me more meaningful stuff on a timer while playing around. But the 9x19mm would likely have more oomph to slam the slide around and be less needy about keeping clean.

The concept of a medium-ish sized 380 ACP with light recoil, healthy capacity, smooth trigger, easy racking alide, and easy to use red dot really seems nice for a lot of under-served folks. And another option in my safe for new shooters to try.

My daughter also wants my CPX-3. If the red dot works out, she could maybe have my current ironed gun. That's a lie now that I've typed it. She'd get a purple iron sighted .380 later because I like my little blue derp.

Jamie

01-15-2020, 03:30 AM

I now have a problem:

https://www.sccy.com/handguns/cpx-3rd/

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Well darn. I might just pick one of these up for my wife. She very new to shooting and is learning on a .380 S&W Shield (that she picked out). But she's mentioned she is interested in a RDS handgun. This might be an affordable option. As I've "restarted" handloading .380 it'd be affordable to shoot as well.

She has a lot of health issues and upper body strength issues/weakness. But most of this could be overcome with proper technique as long as this gun is subjectively manageable.

Interesting.

pooty

01-15-2020, 04:56 AM

Didn't realize how much smaller the grip on the 380 model is!

https://i.imgur.com/4aR8r02.png

farscott

01-15-2020, 05:02 AM

Tamara wrote a bit about the base CPX-3 pistol for Recoil and summarized at her blog at https://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/2020/01/you-cant-displease-all-people-all-time.html

Tod-13

01-15-2020, 08:51 AM

I just can't get past the un-adjustable in any manner "backup sights". If the red dot goes out, those become primary sights. And red dots going out isn't exactly uncommon.

Tamara

01-15-2020, 08:54 AM

Little thing runs reliably if the barrel and breech face/extractor are brushed every fifty rounds or so and slide rails lubed every hundred or so.

This sounds oddly specific. How did you settle on these maintenance intervals? What happens if they are not followed?

Has not shown to be ammo sensitive, so far. Will chamber an empty case more often than not so I use one for ball and dummy drills.

I wish people would quit using this as a proxy for feed reliability. Especially in a tilting-barrel short-recoil-operated pistol, chambering an empty case proves nothing except that the gun will chamber an empty case. Since chambering empty cases isn't a thing I normally need a pistol to do, I don't care if they can.

Meanwhile, have a picture of a failure-to-eject...

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EDITED TO ADD: I'm especially unenthused about the "Crimson Trace" optic. Since AOBC acquired the Crimson Trace company from its original owners several years ago, they've been plastering the brand name on crap generic Chicom-sourced electro-optics of the sort usually seen with labels like "Barska" and "UTG". This especially hurts because I was formerly an unabashed Crimson Trace fangirl, as their products were well-engineered and U.S.-made at their Oregon factory.

SCCY Marshal

01-15-2020, 09:55 AM

1) This sounds oddly specific. How did you settle on these maintenance intervals? What happens if they are not followed?

2) I wish people would quit using this as a proxy for feed reliability.

1) Not much. The cheapest ammo I buy and my powderpuff handloads fail to eject now and then if it's dirty so brushing it down like I would my wheelguns and lubing like I do my carry autos is easy to remember. Rather than run hotter handloads or more expensive ammo, I just keep it clean it. First stoppage was binding the mag when the follower caught the slide catch cut-out, swelled the body, and went wonky before it wore in. Second was a PPU hollowpoint hung up on the feedramp as the only feedway stoppage. After about 250 rounds, got a couple FtE and cleaned the thing. So fifty rounds is an easy number to schedule a quick brushing with lots of leeway if I forget. Granted my handloads use Unique and home cast range scrap lead so are rather dirty.

2) I didn't. Just handy to save me remembering to bring dummies and then chase them around National Forest clearings. For playing games with feed reliability, do plan to cast, powdercoat, size, and load some Lee 105 grain semi-wadcutters the next warm day to load over a middling charge of powder for my own amusement.

Tamara

01-15-2020, 10:42 AM

Having to scrub the bore and breechface and re-lube the rails multiple times in a range session...to say nothing of three or four times a day in a training class environment...would seem to seriously hinder the utility of a pistol.

In their defense, the guns are not marketed to customers likely to run into those problems.

Hi-Point Aficionado

01-15-2020, 11:21 AM

Edit: Whoops.

Stephanie B

01-19-2020, 06:22 PM

SCCY, maker of very inexpensive 9mm DAO pistols, is coming out with a factory red dot option on all their guns. ... Anyone have info on the durability, reliability, etc. Of these guns? Can the triggers be smoothed out with some polishing?

I'm glad that you've asked. A friend asked me about SCCY, and I know nothing about them. I'm tempted to invoke the line of Lester Polfus of "I can't afford guns that cheap," so I'm interested in learning about them.

Jared

01-19-2020, 06:45 PM

1) Not much. The cheapest ammo I buy and my powderpuff handloads fail to eject now and then if it's dirty so brushing it down like I would my wheelguns and lubing like I do my carry autos is easy to remember. Rather than run hotter handloads or more expensive ammo, I just keep it clean it. First stoppage was binding the mag when the follower caught the slide catch cut-out, swelled the body, and went wonky before it wore in. Second was a PPU hollowpoint hung up on the feedramp as the only feedway stoppage. After about 250 rounds, got a couple FtE and cleaned the thing. So fifty rounds is an easy number to schedule a quick brushing with lots of leeway if I forget. Granted my handloads use Unique and home cast range scrap lead so are rather dirty.

2) I didn't. Just handy to save me remembering to bring dummies and then chase them around National Forest clearings. For playing games with feed reliability, do plan to cast, powdercoat, size, and load some Lee 105 grain semi-wadcutters the next warm day to load over a middling charge of powder for my own amusement.

I’m sorry dude, but so far in 2020 I have:

Ran 500 rounds through a SIG P320 X-Carry in a single day and did nothing except load the magazines and shoot it. No cleaning, no lubing, just load and shoot. That was New Year’s Day.

On Jan 16, I ran 500 through a Beretta PX4 pistol.....same deal as the SIG. Load mags, shoot drill, repeat. No brushing, cleaning, lubing nothing.

Neither gun had any stoppages of any kind. The pistols just worked. That’s what I want in a centerfire pistol. If I have to clean it out, say, 10 times in a range session then I’m not interested. I’m there practice shooting, not handgun maintenance.

SCCY Marshal

01-19-2020, 07:46 PM

I’m sorry dude

Sorry for what? I bought it because I was curious how terrible a milled steel pistol at the $hi-point price tag could be. Got a fun range toy with nice trigger. If the cheap thing is fussy about cleaning, it's hardly a surprise.

pangloss

01-19-2020, 08:03 PM

Sorry for what? I bought it because I was curious how terrible a milled steel pistol at the $hi-point price tag could be. Got a fun range toy with nice trigger. If the cheap thing is fussy about cleaning, it's hardly a surprise.I think your screen name may lead some of us to believe you are more enthusiastic about the pistol than you really are.

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Lester Polfus

01-19-2020, 08:35 PM

I'm glad that you've asked. A friend asked me about SCCY, and I know nothing about them. I'm tempted to invoke the line of Lester Polfus of "I can't afford guns that cheap," so I'm interested in learning about them.

Sample size of one. A friend ignored the advice of everyone involved to get a Glock 19 and bought one of the SCCY models. Not sure which one.

It wouldn't reliably make it through the amount of ammo you might reasonably expect to need a one-felon fight. We replaced his cheap ass 115 grain commie ammo with some decent brass cased stuff and it didn't help.

Not sure if he's tested their warranty policy. I suspect he took at home and put it in a drawer and tried not to think about it.

Jared

01-19-2020, 08:36 PM

Sorry for what? I bought it because I was curious how terrible a milled steel pistol at the $hi-point price tag could be. Got a fun range toy with nice trigger. If the cheap thing is fussy about cleaning, it's hardly a surprise.

Honestly, your screen name makes it sound like you’re pretty high on the product. That, in turn, made me want to at least try to be polite while I countered that I wouldn’t put up with that level of required maintenance even in a range toy. If you’re happy with it, you do you. I put up with the various foibles of 22LR handguns because I value the cheap ammo thing and find there is training value in a rimfire.

Center fires are a different story. For the price of a SCCY, I’d rather buy a case of 9mm ball or a bunch of bullets/primers/powder. If I’m gonna shoot a centerfire, I want the thing to work. About all I’m really willing to accept is a quick brush under the extractor star on a revolver every so often, and the revolvers I really shoot a lot don’t need that every 50 rounds.

I get what the SCCY offers, an inexpensive pistol. Truthfully though, if that was my budget, I’d start scouring the used gun racks or wait on a coworker who needs cash right now to find something that has a better reputation for reliability

pangloss

01-19-2020, 11:26 PM

Truthfully though, if that was my budget, I’d start scouring the used gun racks or wait on a coworker who needs cash right now to find something that has a better reputation for reliability

This week I saw an auction on GunBroker for a new Beretta APX compact end with no bids. The no reserve starting price for the pistol was $279. I know this is more than a SCCY, but you can buy a really solid new pistol pretty inexpensively right now. Granted $300 is more than $200, but maybe $100 is the difference between thrifty and cheap.

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10mmfanboy

01-20-2020, 02:51 AM

I only know of one person that bought a sccy, first time he shot it he had 30 some ftf in 50 rounds of two different brands of ammo. He didn't bother shooting it anymore that day. He called sccy and told them the problem and they sent him 2 new magazines. He said there has been no more problems. He said something about looking up info on them and the magazines are usually the culprit. I don't know if it is packing grease or just sloppy tolerances on the magazines or what.

I believe he said he has shot another 300 ish rounds through it since they gave him new magazines, so take that for what it is worth. Oh and it was the 9mm no safety version.

SCCY Marshal

01-20-2020, 09:20 AM

...Granted $300 is more than $200, but maybe $100 is the difference between thrifty and cheap.

You have a point on this forum and for a lot of people, at least. Among many of my coworkers and local codgers living on Social Security, $100 is exactly the difference between a trailer loan payment and the bank taking their home to end up living in their car. Or could be spent on 500 rounds (make it 400 and then could also add a cabled lockbox for some level of secure storage) of 9mm/.380 to have a handgun and half-case of experience under their belt in the time it would take to save for a posurp striker gun. Given that my CPX-3 went back to maker within a few hundred rounds (still worked just way gross trigger that started instantly out of nowhere) I'm still not sure it's a worthwhile expenditure on a gun someone'd need right now. But if they were just getting one with time for mothership to sort any issues that may well crop up, I wouldn't personally be the rain cloud over their parade. My FFL would though as he refuses to so much as order one in even for the customer he knows will grind on stuff until there is either no more problem or no more gun. I had to order online and transfer through him.

With the income many P-F users have, and several have listed as equaling two range trips of ammo, it hardly be a sacrifice to try one out if only out of curiosity if one were so inclined. I'd be interested to see if opinions softened or were confirmed with more personal trigger time behind a meaningful number of units in experienced hands. All I can say is that, in my minimal experience (sample of one) and economic state of many around me, SCCY seems serviceable. And being serviceable while coming with 2-3 magazines, comprehensive warranty, quick warranty service, 10-round capacity, compact size, and costing only a hair over the non-ambi boat anchor that is a Hi-Point which comes with one or two magazines is a better use of some spare discretionary budget than I initially expected.

SCCY Marshal

01-22-2020, 11:30 AM

Setting up targets for the next range trip this morning, noticed a used backer from the autumn I hadn't cleared off before putting away. I don't like giving myself higher scores by the grease ring so counted the rightmost hit as a nine-pointer.

https://i.imgur.com/mazQ5gSl.jpg

https://www.swatmag.com/article/five-yard-roundup-timed-close-shooting-drill/

SCCY Marshal

01-26-2020, 12:45 PM

It's a new year so revisiting a couple L.E. agency qualifications to photo and have a friend witness should happen soon. Wasn't feeling the F.B.I. or my state's qual. Neither did I desire to clean fouling off my carry guns (which didn't work out as I shot the Four Corners Drill and some ball and dummy against the 2" circles and 1" squares with the LCR in my pocket afterward) so decided to just have some fun with the SCCY on a drizzly day and a course of fire noted in my range cards.

Shot the Kansas CPOST handgun qualification (https://www.kscpost.org/target.php) clean with my CPX-3. All shots within the bottle count same so I ran both reps of the the 1.5-3 yard stage as a failure to stop, both reps of the third 7 yard stage as a failure to stop, and shot the 25 yard stages first so I could mark hits and be accountable for misses rather than guess within a chewed-up center:

https://i.imgur.com/xBRg0ual.jpg

50/50 100% as-scored against the 35/50 70% minimum requirement. Landed 3/4 of my headshots within the 3"x5" headbox (let front sight sit proud of the rear on a 7 yarder). Dropped no shots outside the 8" grey ring in stages closer than 25 yards. Landed half the 25 yard shots within the ring. Crammed 37/46 center-of-mass aimed shots within the 6" white circle I personally prefer to tag. So 38/50 76% passing run if scored by my personal ideal. Forgot to mention all shots well within par times.

All ammunition was from a single box of Winchester Service Grade* 95 grain full metal jacket flat point. No stoppages with either Service Grade or White Box to date. Gun was carried in my homeroll kydex AIWB under a fleece vest. Used the flush floorplates for all but the last ten shots fired. Didn't use the pinkie extension magazine for any reason other than it having been loaded while prepping for the range trip. No point to any of this post other than that I had photographed the target after a timed/scored course of fire and this thread is still active so might as well.

* Anybody know if this is made to different specifications or tolerances than White Box or just repackaged?

ViniVidivici

01-27-2020, 09:08 PM

I don't know if their RDS equipped guns are a great idea, depends on how robust the electronics will be, which someone here said they might not be, so much.

I have a CPX-2. I like it. I am a Glock guy, but this gun has its place in our battery.

I had searched for a gun this small, smaller and lighter than a G26, for example, but with a decent capacity (double stack).

Beyond this, and its clone-brother, the P-11, what else is there? Everything this small is less capacity, and everything with this capacity is bigger/heavier. I guess the industry hasn't sensed a need for this animal...

Just a little over 600 rounds through it now. 4 or 5 failures to go all the way into battery during the first 50-60 rounds (classic break-in kind of thing, I think). Quick smack of the slide, and carried on.

Since then, it's been fully reliable. It's run with the same variety of fodder I've put through my Glocks, i.e. JHP, FMJ, and plated 115, 124, & 147 gr. It's loaded with the same thing our other pistols are at the moment, RA9T.

For me, it is absolutely a pocket gun. Cheap Uncle Mike's does the job. Carried this way, support side, as a BUG only. Doesn't come out of the pocket as smoothly as a Jframe, but it works fine. I can meet the two second standard with it.

Only time it's carried as primary is running, in clip-on Kydex made from a shell from holsterbuilder.com. Just did 3 more miles with it this morning before work. Works great for that, nice having 10 rounds on board.

Trigger is long and heavy, sort of revolver-like, typical DAO. No big deal. Not crazy accurate, but serves its purpose.

I have not seen the need to baby it, cleaning or lubing while shooting, mine isn't finicky like that.

Longevity? We'll see. Not gonna be running it in any "1,000 rounds in a weekend" courses.

I've found the factory recoil springs are weak as hell, they seem "spent" and mushy after 50-60 rounds. P-11 spring from Kel Tecs website are stronger, work great, and cheap.

Decent gun for the money, IMHO. I will say I think I got lucky with mine though, as there are alot of less than stellar reports about them out there.

JAH 3rd

02-09-2021, 07:41 PM

Yesterday (2-8) I ordered the 9mm non-safety version of the SCCY. Black frame with stainless slide. I hope to have it maybe next week. Still waiting on shipping confirmation.

I have read this thread and just gonna roll the dice and see how things work out. A friend of mine has one and so do his family members. Positive reviews on the pistol.

Decades ago I purchased a .32acp North American Arms pistol.........think Seecamp. I shot the crap out of it vetting function. Its been 100%. Don't carry it, although it is small enough. For its size, its quite heavy, especially compared to the LCP .380.

JAH 3rd

02-19-2021, 10:53 AM

So I picked up my SCCY Tuesday. Haven't gotten to the range due to copious amounts of rain. I am impressed with the workmanship. As far as I can tell, flawless appearance. Slide machining looks great with no obvious shortcuts.
Disassembled, cleaned and lubricated and ready to shoot. I prefer the pinky extension on the grip.........provides a secure full-fingered grip. As of now, no regrets on purchase. Will get to the range ASAP when the rain lets up. Then we will see how she functions.

ViniVidivici

02-20-2021, 08:10 PM

Mine works well whether it's raining or not. Jess sayin'!

BILLG

02-20-2021, 10:33 PM

Put a MCARBO Spring kit in your Sccy pistols you will be surprised at the improvement in the trigger pull.

ViniVidivici

02-20-2021, 11:58 PM

I looked at that. Not sure I would want it, but the installation video in the link is a really cool way to see all the internal workings of the design itself. Well worth a look:

https://www.mcarbo.com/sccy-cpx-2-trigger-spring-kit.aspx

BILLG

02-21-2021, 12:19 AM

AdioSS

02-21-2021, 10:58 AM

The Kel-Tec P-11 was the first pistol I bought 11 years ago. It has been a good little gun. I’ve upgraded the sights, trigger, mag release, slide lock, & got some MecGar 12rd mags for it. Brought the trigger pull from 12# to 8.5 with the factory updated spring and then got that down to 6 5/8 pounds. I’ve always thought the SCCY pistols were just clones. But in watching that MCARBO video I noticed that they have actually improved on the ergonomics & a few other little things of the P-11. The trigger profile looks closer to my aftermarket trigger & the way it installs looks better. It has a slide release instead of the little nub slide lock. And now the MRDS is on it. I saw one for sale at a pawn shop with the purple grip. Now I’m actually kinda interested in it. I may need to go check it out again...

Tamara

02-21-2021, 03:12 PM

"Huh. I'm seeing hits from p-f in the sitemeter. Haven't been by in a while. I wonder what's shaking over there?"

67888

I guess it's inevitable...

CWM11B

02-22-2021, 02:22 PM

I shoot a LOT of SCCYs, albeit two rounds at a time into a water tank. With the number of feeding issues I've seen out of a two round sampling test and the recoil impulse compared to other compact nines that get the same testing they are a "Nope" for me. JMHO. Those who have them and like them, carry on. Were I still in the biz of policy writing, I would not authorize these as an officially sanctioned OD gun. On your own time and CCH, not agency creds? Your choice. It sure as hell wouldn't be mine.

JAH 3rd

03-10-2021, 05:08 PM

Went to the range today with my new SCCY. It was cleaned and oiled before range time. I shot 50 rounds of CCI Blazer 124 grain FMJ. I loaded 9 rounds (9+1) in the two supplied magazines.....the 10th round was a struggle to get in. The pistol worked great....except....chambering the last round from each magazine. The jump from the magazine to the feed ramp is not excessive at all......either distance or angle. And I saw nothing on the breach face that would inhibit feeding, but the round never got close to going under the extractor. I could tap the slide forward and it would move, then bind, never going into battery.

I then loaded up one round in each magazine and inserted the mag with the slide locked back. The magazine release was used to send the slide home. I did this ten times for each mag. Chambered and fired perfectly. So I don't know if the last round is moving forward in the mag or what.

I am going to clean it again and shoot another 50 rounds of the same ammo through it and see what happens. Not stressing at all. If she still won't work I'll just send it back to SCCY.