Ruger GP100 .44 special, Delisted

[Crazy Dane]

Ruger has pulled the GP100 (1761) in .44 special from its web sight. They pulled it on January 2.They still show the Talo model (1767) but local dealers could not locate one. If you are interested in one, I wouldn't wait. If everyone is finally back to work from holiday, I should pick mine up today along with my other present to myself.

[jamautry]

Looks like they still have this one

https://ruger.com/products/gp100/specSheets/1770.html




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[SCCY Marshal]

Bummer. I put one off too long.

[Crazy Dane]

Bummer. I put one off too long.

Grab-a-gun and Buds still show in stock so they are not gone, yet. I got mine in from Grab-a-gun Wednesday and haven't got to shoot it yet.

[SCCY Marshal]

Have some ski trips coming up to finance and other funguns ahead on the list. Will just have to hope for a used one to pop up on a future date I have some fun money.

[OlongJohnson]

You can always console yourself with this thread.

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?26509-44-May-be-Special-But-Not-for-Defense!

[Tokarev]

This isn't terribly surprising. Unfortunate, yes. But not unexpected.

As fun as the old 44 SPL is, it isn't mainstream or popular outside of a small clique of revolver enthusiasts. Once this small market was satiated that's pretty much going to be it.

[OlongJohnson]

I've got to think a .45LC is just a lot more ballistically useful, with a much wider variety of projectiles that will work well at a variety of velocities.

[Tokarev]

I've got to think a .45LC is just a lot more ballistically useful, with a much wider variety of projectiles that will work well at a variety of velocities.


Probably although as a handloader I think it might be close to a tie.

What I would like to see is a .41 Mag on the GP-100 format.

[Crazy Dane]

This isn't terribly surprising. Unfortunate, yes. But not unexpected.

As fun as the old 44 SPL is, it isn't mainstream or popular outside of a small clique of revolver enthusiasts. Once this small market was satiated that's pretty much going to be it.


I have never been a fan of the .357 magnum. I always thought it was loud and obnoxious to shoot and have had many .45 long colts over the years and a few .44 mags but never a special until my son talked me out of my last 45. I run up on the 5 inch while out looking for S&W M25 and fell in love with the .44 special. I got the 3 inch for my "to me by me" Christmas present after my ungrateful children failed to catch my hints.:p I have been expecting Ruger to pull these just not while I was trying to show it to a local holster maker. Ruger pulled as I was trying to pull it up on my phone. It was there for a minute and I refreshed the page and it was gone.




Probably although as a handloader I think it might be close to a tie.

What I would like to see is a .41 Mag on the GP-100 format.

This and if Henry would add a loading gate to their pistol caliber lever guns would make my wallet weep. A buddy has a 4&5/8s Blackhawk and a Henry rifle that shoots the .41 like a laser.

[TheNewbie]

They have the Redhawk in .45lc, but could they put it into the GP100 and shave off a few ounces of weight?

[bofe954]

CDNN has the 3 inch talo.

[Bigghoss]

Once upon a time I bought one box of .44 specials to try in my 629. Rather than make a habit of that I bought an identical 625 to shoot .45ACP. I don't know that I really want a .44 special per say but I do like big bore revolvers so I'm kinda on the fence with the 5-shot GP100 .44 special. If Ruger had made a Wiley Clapp model I probably would have stronger feelings about getting one.

CDNN has the Talo model listed for $650 which is dang reasonable. But I should probably get a Ruger Blackhawk since I don't own any single actions at the moment.

[OlongJohnson]

This thread got me looking at 25s and 625s.

[Bigghoss]

This thread got me looking at 25s and 625s.

I would love to get myself a 625 .45acp Mountain Gun. Considering what they go for I'll settle for my model of 1989.

[Baldanders]

I have only got the chance to fondle one of these once, might get to shoot it eventually. (uncle of a friend)

It was nice. I am too low on funds to even think about a new gun anytime soon, but if I was flush, I'd snag one of these.

You could always sell it and pick up a Smith, later, right? 😉

[Baldanders]

They have the Redhawk in .45lc, but could they put it into the GP100 and shave off a few ounces of weight?

Even if 5 .45 LC would fit in a GP-100, can you imagine what would happen if someone put "Ruger only" loads in it?

This is also my theory why we will never see a .44Mag GP-100.

[Borderland]

Once upon a time I bought one box of .44 specials to try in my 629. Rather than make a habit of that I bought an identical 625 to shoot .45ACP. I don't know that I really want a .44 special per say but I do like big bore revolvers so I'm kinda on the fence with the 5-shot GP100 .44 special. If Ruger had made a Wiley Clapp model I probably would have stronger feelings about getting one.

CDNN has the Talo model listed for $650 which is dang reasonable. But I should probably get a Ruger Blackhawk since I don't own any single actions at the moment.


My feelings also. I wouldn't mind having a 44 spl but a 625 scratched my itch. I didn't see breaking into a whole new cartridge because I already load 45 ACP. Brass and bullets was already stacked deep for 45 ACP. It does take a special skill to load it for a revolver tho. Neck tension is important. For reloading, 44 spl is the winner but buying ammo would suck. I'm pretty much married to the 45 ACP.

[Bigghoss]

My feelings also. I wouldn't mind having a 44 spl but a 625 scratched my itch. I didn't see breaking into a whole new cartridge because I already load 45 ACP. Brass and bullets was already stacked deep for 45 ACP. It does take a special skill to load it for a revolver tho. Neck tension is important. For reloading, 44 spl is the winner but buying ammo would suck. I'm pretty much married to the 45 ACP.

Reloading just doesn't fit into my life right now but if I did reload that would probably be enough to push me over the tipping point. I don't know if 5 rounds of .45 ACP would quite fit in a GP100 but that would be cool. Or maybe a .45 3" LCRx.

[Borderland]

This thread got me looking at 25s and 625s.

It's a siren's song. Set your rudder and lash yourself to the mast.

[Squib308]

my redhawk in 44 mag never leaves the safe. i also dont like the single spring mechanism. the S&W N frames fit me much better. 44 sp chambering in my world offers nothing. if ruger could chamber a GP100 in 44 mag i would be all over it. maybe someday

[OlongJohnson]

It's a siren's song. Set your rudder and lash yourself to the mast.

Yeah. I like the versatility. Everything from 160gr wadcutters and cowboy loads to 300gr+ slugs. Depending on groove diameter, may be able to shoot the whole gamut of (cheap and plentiful) .45 Auto bullets in the middle. The .430 family just doesn't have the range. And I like that the bigger holes in the cylinder are reported to reduce peening by a useful amount.

But as usual with Smiths, initial research reveals there was a whole period of time when they were more likely than not to be defectively manufactured, so I need to learn a lot more and probably restrict myself (I keep saying that, and then not doing it) to in-person purchases.

[spyderco monkey]

I've got to think a .45LC is just a lot more ballistically useful, with a much wider variety of projectiles that will work well at a variety of velocities.

Absolutely; outside of something like a lightweight 20oz Bulldog type pistol, I cant see much point to the .44 special.

The 10mm GP100 holds 6 rounds instead of 5, has more power, more projectiles, and can also fire .40 S&W as 'specials.'

Likewise the .45 LC Redhawk can fire .45 LC, .45 LC+P (.44 Mag but in .45), and also fire .45 ACP with moonclips.

[Stephanie B]

Likewise the .45 LC Redhawk can fire .45 LC, .45 LC+P (.44 Mag but in .45), and also fire .45 ACP with moonclips.

Isn't there a significant difference in headspace between a .45 ACP with moonclips and a .45 LC?

[spyderco monkey]

Isn't there a significant difference in headspace between a .45 ACP with moonclips and a .45 LC?

It uses 45 LC in a regular, non moon clip revolver fashion, and then uses the moonclips to fire .45 ACP / .45 Super. A really cool system:

Gunblast has a great review:
https://gunblast.com/Ruger-RH45ACP.htm

And a review of the previous .45 LC redhawk, which displays the serious, .44 magnum power of the ".45 LC +P" loads the Redhawk can fire.

https://gunblast.com/Ruger-Redhawk45.htm

With this versatile option available, its hard to see the upside to .44 magnum, much less a .44 special.

[Dave T]

As a fan of Skeeter Skelton's, I chased the 44 Special for 40 years or so. First one was one of the first two Charter Bulldogs to arrive in Tucson, AZ after their introduction (sometime back in the '70s). Since then I've owned S&Ws in two frame sizes (N & L) and two finishes (blued & stainless), a 1st Gen Colt SAA, and most recently a USFA 4-3/4" Rodeo.

I keep wanting to be a 44 Spl fan but even though I reload I never fall in love and end up selling them or trading them, usually on something in .45 cal. I'm particularly fond of 45 ACP revolvers and have owned both M-25s & M-625s with a couple 1917s tossed in.

I have even thought about this Ruger (LOL). Probably a good thing they discontinued it. Saves me from buying one and then loosing interest again. (smile)

Dave

[mmc45414]

Saw this one, looks tasty and seems like a bargain?
https://www.anacortesgunshop.com/ruger-gp100-double-action-centerfire-revolvers-stainless-steel-150783
I know nuthin about the vendor, was just surfing GP100s :cool:

[OlongJohnson]

I've stopped in that shop a couple times. Real brick and mortar place. Telescopes for bird watching types (popular in that area), optics, cameras and firearms. Kinda neat little joint. I would deal with them with confidence.

It does appear that they have a "drop ship by distributor" program going, however, as there are many more guns on the site than in the store. They often are close, but never quite the best price on the web on things I've looked at.

[entropy]

I love mine. It’s a bit finicky when it comes to finding accurate ammo though. Very picky.

47242

[mmc45414]

I would deal with them with confidence.

I love mine.
I would be tempted, but I have a M69 4.2".
I want something, damnit, but I am just not sure what it is. Was selling and saving for a 1301, and now am just not all that sure I really want that right now, especially considering I could probably scratch two itches for that much money. Am intrigued by the 686 Plus, maybe 3", and was looking at GP100 equivalents.

[OlongJohnson]

Yeah, if you don't know what you want, save your money.

[mmc45414]

Yeah, if you don't know what you want, save your money.
Don't harsh my mellow, I am wanting to buy something for the frickin joy of getting something. :cool:

It seems like forever since I bought something just because it made me happy. I am always filling a niche or a role as if I am so deluded that I think I need something for anything. If anything though I probably do need another rifle or two, but they just don't give me the jollies like handguns. And it is winter, and I shoot handguns once a week, but going out and working with a rifle is more serious like.

[OlongJohnson]

My point is that if you don't know what you want, you don't want it enough.

When something comes along that you know you want (and it eventually will), it's nice to have the cash waiting.

[mmc45414]

My point is that if you don't know what you want, you don't want it enough.
When something comes along that you know you want (and it eventually will), it's nice to have the cash waiting.
Yes, exactly, just I am thinking about playing both sides of the argument. I guess my shooting interests are diverse enough that it seems like I have always needed something (and I use that term loosely) so I have not bought anything that didn't have a strategy behind it in ages. I had that moment of clarity when I realized I really wasn't all that hot for a 1301 right now, I just told myself I needed a combat shotgun, for you know, reasons. So I sold some stuff and saved some money and could swing a 1301, but instead I think I might save half and buy something with half that is something I want, just for the hell of it. And the trolling is part of the fun :cool:

[OlongJohnson]

Well, as long as we're doing that, you should probably want a pre-lock Model 25.

[OlongJohnson]

How about a Super GP without the slots and gills in .45LC?

[mmc45414]

How about a Super GP without the slots and gills in .45LC?
I think I am gonna focus on something 38/357 for now. Part of the reason I want it is for higher volume revolver shooting, and 38 is one of the 650 setups I have, soooo...

But, after this interaction, I have decided to chill until after the end of February. I have a long term financial goal that I am really hoping to achieve by then, and I want to accomplish this enough that I would consider the unspeakable, diverting gun money back into the family budget :cool:

[Bigghoss]

How about a Super GP without the slots and gills in .45LC?

If it also took .45acp like the Redhawk I would be all over that.

[Tokarev]

I might as well throw down with my medium frame LCR idea.

I'd love to see the standard LCR swelled up about 15% and made into a six shooter.

The same gun would also be the base for another 44 Special. Also a 41 Mag. And a 7 shot 327.

There is no way Ruger doesn't already have the blueprints worked out.

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[OlongJohnson]

I'm wondering if it's possible to redesign the GP and/or SP trigger and hammer geometry to have the smooth DA press of the LCRs. Seems like an obvious and simple enough concept when you watch the video. It's kinematics, not magic. I just don't know if it would work with the packaging of the older guns. Kinda makes me want to look at everygunpart.com and see if I could figure some stuff out.

[awp_101]

I am wanting to buy something for the frickin joy of getting something. :cool:


I think I am gonna focus on something 38/357 for now.

I can help with that. I can sell you the empty plastic case from one of my .357 GPs. I'll even throw in a set of "poor decision purchase" inserts...:D

[mmc45414]

I can help with that. I can sell you the empty plastic case from one of my .357 GPs.
Funny you say this, I recently threw away my accumulation of plastic boxes. Went through them and pulled out all of the locks and extra backstraps and such, and that almost filled a five gallon bucket! Once I sifted through it and threw away all of the redundant manuals and such there was not much to keep. Then I took a disk grinder and buzzed off the labels good enough to not be readable. Then I put them in a big trash bag and started wondering WTH to do with them. I really didn't want to put them all in the trash in front of my house (there were quite a few of them, way more than the number of guns I still have...) and I didn't want to take them to the dump and raise any questions. I ended up giving them to a buddy that threw them into his dumpster at his commercial building.

[awp_101]

So you’re saying you’re ready to start a fresh collection? 🤣

[deflave]

It is sad to see the GP100/44 line shrinking, but as stated it is not unexpected.

For myself, the .44 Special made a lot of sense. I decided on Special loads for all my Smiths long ago, and I'd already owned a Flattop and N-frame in the same chambering.

I hadn't dabbled with the Ruger DA's before and I was pleasantly surprised by this one. Some quick stoning and swapping with a Wolf spring and I was flat amazed by the smoothness of the GP action.

Probably one of the better bunny guns I've owned.

https://i.imgur.com/grNzrdv.jpg

[HeavyDuty]

I would be tempted, but I have a M69 4.2".
I want something, damnit, but I am just not sure what it is. Was selling and saving for a 1301, and now am just not all that sure I really want that right now, especially considering I could probably scratch two itches for that much money. Am intrigued by the 686 Plus, maybe 3", and was looking at GP100 equivalents.

I talked myself into a 4.25” 69 a few years ago, saying that it was going to be a field gun for when I’m visiting friends in the upper peninsula of MI. And now that I’m moving to NH, I can claim it’s my moose and bear defense gun, my photography takes me out into the sticks. (Suuuure... in reality, I just wanted another toy.)

I’ve been slowly shooting one specific brand of magnums that I was getting from Walmart with the idea of reloading them to warm .44 Special levels for everyday range use. But, with that source gone I may need to start over so I have a few hundred identical once fired cases. Maybe I should just buy Starline or similar and be done with it.

[okie john]

It uses 45 LC in a regular, non moon clip revolver fashion, and then uses the moonclips to fire .45 ACP / .45 Super. A really cool system:

Gunblast has a great review:
https://gunblast.com/Ruger-RH45ACP.htm

And a review of the previous .45 LC redhawk, which displays the serious, .44 magnum power of the ".45 LC +P" loads the Redhawk can fire.

https://gunblast.com/Ruger-Redhawk45.htm

With this versatile option available, its hard to see the upside to .44 magnum, much less a .44 special.

The real draw of the 44 Magnum is factory ammo. It's far more common than 45 Colt ammo and it's all pretty good, much like the 30-06. I've found that 95% of 45 Colt factory ammo is SAA-level stuff and the other 5% is Ruger Only. A lot of the SAA-level stuff will barely stay on a pie plate past 25 yards. If you handload and you're not flying to a hunt, then 45 ACP/Colt all the way. If an airline is involved, then they're going to lose your bags at some point. 44 Magnum wins for that.


Okie John

[okie john]

I would love to get myself a 625 .45acp Mountain Gun. Considering what they go for I'll settle for my model of 1989.

That's the Mountain Gun that should still be in production. They should also make a full-lug 4" Model 29/629.


Okie John

[Bigghoss]

That's the Mountain Gun that should still be in production. They should also make a full-lug 4" Model 29/629.


Okie John

If they made a .45 ACP mountain gun again I might just grab one.

[HeavyDuty]

If anyone is looking for a 1761, there’s a used one at a store in NC. No affiliation.

https://edsgunshop.com/product/used-ruger-1761-gp100-standard-44-special-3-5-round-black-hogue-monogrip-grip-satin-stainless/

[Crazy Dane]

If anyone is looking for a 1761, there’s a used one at a store in NC. No affiliation.

https://edsgunshop.com/product/used-ruger-1761-gp100-standard-44-special-3-5-round-black-hogue-monogrip-grip-satin-stainless/

WOW That is $100 more than I gave for mine at the first of the year and $80 more than Grab-a-gun has it listed for now.

I found out my 3 inch shipped in 2017 and my 5 inch shipped in early 2018. The 3 inch has turned in some very good groups but was impacting 6 inches high at 20 yards with the rear sight run all the way down. Reading on the internet, this seems to have been the norm for '17 guns. I installed a much taller and narrower partridge style sight from Dawson and have only shot enough rounds to get the sights regulated back to center close. I like this sight so well I am going to order one for the 5 inch. I am having an issue with Unique and I have started a thread on the Reloading page about that and would appreciate any ideas on that if you got the time. https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?40780-I-have-a-question
Thank you, FES

[HeavyDuty]

WOW That is $100 more than I gave for mine at the first of the year and $80 more than Grab-a-gun has it listed for now.

I found out my 3 inch shipped in 2017 and my 5 inch shipped in early 2018. The 3 inch has turned in some very good groups but was impacting 6 inches high at 20 yards with the rear sight run all the way down. Reading on the internet, this seems to have been the norm for '17 guns. I installed a much taller and narrower partridge style sight from Dawson and have only shot enough rounds to get the sights regulated back to center close. I like this sight so well I am going to order one for the 5 inch. I am having an issue with Unique and I have started a thread on the Reloading page about that and would appreciate any ideas on that if you got the time. https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?40780-I-have-a-question
Thank you, FES

I’m not in the market for one, but it sounded like they were drying up so I thought I would mention it here. No concept of value, either.

[Crazy Dane]

I’m not in the market for one, but it sounded like they were drying up so I thought I would mention it here. No concept of value, either.

It has been interesting to watch, In the days after Ruger pulled them from their catalog the prices jumped considerably. It seems they have come back down since. If Vass was a little closer I think I would walk in and offer $200 less than the advertised internet price. I have found myself in some sort of love affair with the 3 inch GP100s. I keep going through the safe looking at what I could sell or put forth for a Wiley Clapp model, either the blued .357 or the 10mm.

[jetfire]

The .44 is still out there, or alternatively you could do what I did and get the 10mm Clapp gun

[Flamingo]

The .44 is still out there, or alternatively you could do what I did and get the 10mm Clapp gun

How do you like it? I have an old GP100 that I had been considering getting converted to 10mm, and now I don't need to I can just buy it and save some money.

Will it take .40 S&W?

[jetfire]

How do you like it? I have an old GP100 that I had been considering getting converted to 10mm, and now I don't need to I can just buy it and save some money.

Will it take .40 S&W?

I just bought the Clapp gun on the internets so I don't have it yet, however I have the Match Champion in 10mm, and I really like it. It takes .40 S&W just fine, but you have to buy .40 specific clips for it, since they have slightly different rim dimensions than 10mm clips. Also it's fun to say clips.

[03RN]

I just bought the Clapp gun on the internets so I don't have it yet, however I have the Match Champion in 10mm, and I really like it. It takes .40 S&W just fine, but you have to buy .40 specific clips for it, since they have slightly different rim dimensions than 10mm clips. Also it's fun to say clips.

I love making people react when i use clips correctly.

No, my M1 doesn't need magazines:p

[JAH 3rd]

Ruger has pulled the GP100 (1761) in .44 special from its web sight. They pulled it on January 2.They still show the Talo model (1767) but local dealers could not locate one. If you are interested in one, I wouldn't wait. If everyone is finally back to work from holiday, I should pick mine up today along with my other present to myself.

Checking out Rugers at Ed's Gun Shop and found this. Wanted to pass it along. I have done business with him, but it's been years. Always visit his table at the local gun show. Only 1 left.

https://edsgunshop.com/product/ruger-1761-gp100-standard-single-double-44-special-3-5-rd-black-hogue-monogrip-grip-stainless-steel/

[Totem Polar]

There’s one in my favorite LGS that somehow survived the insane LGS coronapalooza festival.

[jetfire]

How do you like it? I have an old GP100 that I had been considering getting converted to 10mm, and now I don't need to I can just buy it and save some money.

Will it take .40 S&W?

Crap I totally forgot about this thread.

Yes, the 10mm GP100s will all take .40 S&W, however to get reliable ignition you have to use clips specifically made for .40 S&W brass. The factory 10mm clips for the guns are kind of shitty anyway, so .40 S&W clips from TK Custom are my go to for shooting 40 out of this gun. With a Wilson Spring kit at its lightest settings, I have 100% reliable ignition with Federal American Eagle and Federal Hydra Shok.

[ralph]

Well, once again this board ended up costing me money..I ordered one of these from Bud’s last night..I’m figuring these will be revolvers that in the near future, you won’t see very often. Since I already load for .44mag, all I need to do is buy some special brass and readjust my dies in my press, This should be a really fun gun to shoot..Hopefully, it’ll be at my LGS sometime next week...

[entropy]

You’re welcome!;)

[ralph]

Bud’s gun shop’s shipping department really got with the program..With today being Good Friday, I wasn’t expecting to see this pistol show up until next week, but to their credit, it came today! Dry firing it a little bit, the DA trigger pull is smooth and quite useable as it is, almost as good as my match champion, doing a serial number search, it was shipped in 2017, so, it may have issues shooting high as was mentioned in a post above, I won’t know until I get some ammo loaded up for it, that may be a couple of weeks. I love the Houge grip on it seems very comfortable, looking the pistol over, there’s no glaring flaws, the barrel appears to have been installed with no canting, everything looks good. It looks like everything was well done, and well thought out..

[Rick R]

Well, once again this boardSince I already load for .44mag, all I need to do is buy some special brass and readjust my dies in my press

FWIW My ancient set of .44 RCBS dies came with a washer where the thickness matches the difference in Special and Magnum brass. You just use it under the seating die when loading Magnums with the die set up to crimp Specials. You might give RCBS a call.

My 3” 10mm GP-100 is just a great shooting little gun, you should love the Special.

[ralph]

FWIW My ancient set of .44 RCBS dies came with a washer where the thickness matches the difference in Special and Magnum brass. You just use it under the seating die when loading Magnums with the die set up to crimp Specials. You might give RCBS a call.

My 3” 10mm GP-100 is just a great shooting little gun, you should love the Special.

I have that same washer for my .38/.357 dies. In this case however, that’s not going to work..I’m going to be loading on a Dillon 550b, the sizing die I shouldn’t have to touch, but the bell/ powder drop, seating, and crimp dies will all need adjusted, no biggie though, just take a few minutes..

[ralph]

Now that I have this pistol, and have brass on the way, I’m needing some suggestions for a holster... Knowing the enabling nature of this board, anyone have any suggestions?

[Lester Polfus]

Now that I have this pistol, and have brass on the way, I’m needing some suggestions for a holster... Knowing the enabling nature of this board, anyone have any suggestions?

I have been quite happy with my Simply Rugged Sourdough Pancake for my 4" GP100.

[Rick R]

Now that I have this pistol, and have brass on the way, I’m needing some suggestions for a holster... Knowing the enabling nature of this board, anyone have any suggestions?

I have a Simply Rugged Pancake, it is underwhelming to look at but absolutely comfortable and protects the gun very well. But since excellent is never good enough I also ordered a JMCK OWB holster for the little 3”. It is every bit as comfortable and maybe presents the gun for a quicker draw. The downside for your use is it won’t protect the rear sight as well as the Simply Rugged holster does (my GP100 has the fixed Novak rear).

A bit of advice, the one weak part of Ruger revolvers is the rear sight blade. Call Ruger and order a spare one. Store it where you know where it is and Mr. Murphy will leave your sight alone. Don’t ask how I learned this.

[entropy]

For mine, I’ve been using a Triple K 440 Lightning as a field holster along with a matching belt. Previous to that, I used a DeSantis Thumb break molded for a 2 1/2” Colt Python. I’ll try to post pics of each tomorrow.

[jetfire]

Now that I have this pistol, and have brass on the way, I’m needing some suggestions for a holster... Knowing the enabling nature of this board, anyone have any suggestions?

Traditional OWB it's hard to go wrong with the Galco Combat Master. I've had Combat Masters for basically every gun ever, and rolled an M9 in one for my last deployment. Traditional IWB the Summer Comfort or whatever Galco calls it is also good. I'm not shilling for Galco here either, but these two products of theirs I'll recommend without hesitation.

Having said all that, I'm wearing a 3 inch GP100 10mm in a JM Custom Kydex AIWB holster as I type this.

[ralph]

Much to my surprise, my cases from Starline showed up today..I quickly went to the basement and went to work..It only took a few minutes to readjust my .44mag dies to run .44special, currently I only have some 240gr plated RNFP’s to shoot, I do have some 200gr plated RNFP’s on order, looks to me like you have a wider variety of loads to choose from with the 200gr bullets.. Anyway, I loaded about 200rnds, and went into my side yard, and ran 20 rnds off, made a quick sight adjustment, and, overall, was quite surprised..recoil was very pleasant, accuracy was good, and I think will improve the more I use it, this pistol really is a blast to shoot, looking at the loading data, it looks like there’s something for everyone here, I found some load data from Speer using their 200gr Gold Dot, that looks promising as a defense load, only problem is, every place I’ve looked they’re sold out, at $30-35/100 for the bullets, that’s a lot cheaper than some of the other factory loaded defense loads I’ve seen for sale, and, all of them are now in 20 rnd boxes.. I’m liking the .44 special, I kinda wish I would have tried it sooner..

[Rick R]

Surprisingly Speer has them in stock. Pricey but you’re probably not going to plink with them.

https://www.speer.com/bullets/handgun_bullets/gold_dot_personal_protection/19-4427.html

[ralph]

Surprisingly Speer has them in stock. Pricey but you’re probably not going to plink with them.

https://www.speer.com/bullets/handgun_bullets/gold_dot_personal_protection/19-4427.html

True, that’s not that bad considering that’s for what can be made into 100rnds, looking online, I’ve seen prices for 20-25rnds of loaded ammo with that bullet, for just as much. Looking at Speer’s load data, a max charge of power pistol can get one of these moving at 976 FPS..Not too shabby for a big slug like that.

[Rick R]

True, that’s not that bad considering that’s for what can be made into 100rnds, looking online, I’ve seen prices for 20-25rnds of loaded ammo with that bullet, for just as much. Looking at Speer’s load data, a max charge of power pistol can get one of these moving at 976 FPS..Not too shabby for a big slug like that.

If I had a .44 Special I’d probably load 240gr SWC Lyman 429421 bullets over Unique or 2400, old school:

http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt44spec.htm

Which is kind of what I use for medium target loads in my .44 Mag ammo. But I already have a mold for that bullet.
Mr. Taffin is a good read if just a bit dated.

The Gold Dots would be a great modern option for SD/HD ammo.

[03RN]

I think a revolver needs an el passo saddlery threepersons.
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But thats just me

You got the 5" right?

I have a Simply Rugged sourdough pancake for my 4 5/8 blackhawk. It conceals well but its so high riding its not very easy to draw. The leather has also folded in a little which makes reholstering difficult as well.

I also have a kramer scabbard for the 4" redhawk i used to have. I think its a better alternative to the sourdough ime.
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[03RN]

If you're looking for a hollow point that will expand at lower velocity it looks like 200gr xtps are rated down to 750 fps

[entropy]

IIRC, there are (2) variations of that GoldDot. One designed for lower velocities, and one for the higher .44mag loadings. Search in the Reloading section for a multi page thread from Tokarev. Lots of info there. I’ve settled on two basic loads. A 250gr Keith style SWC and 7.5gr Unique, and a 200gr RNFP (SNS coated) and 6.5gr Unique. I experimented a bit with 2400, but ended up with unburned flakes under the ejector star and subsequent issues with lockup. I did order up and test out the Blazer 200gr GoldDot loading as well. Accurate enough, good expansion using the “Yooper/Hillbilly water jug test”. Only issue was stiff extraction due to the aluminum cases. I don’t consider that a big issue for my intended uses however.

[ralph]

The Speer load data I have, shows a 200gr Gold Dot part # 4427, I have a variety of powders that I’ve accumulated over the years, so I can experiment with a few, mostly I load Bullseye, I have a recently opened 8lb jug of it.. That’s probably what I’ll end up using the most.

[JAH 3rd]

Best price and my ffl listed...........pray for me!


https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/188661

[andre3k]

Best price and my ffl listed...........pray for me!


https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/188661Wow, that is a good price. I picked one up today for 568 shipped and thought that was a good deal. 3rd Gen Shooters Supply had Hornady 44 cal 180gr XTP's for $10 /box. I had to buy a gun to match the bullets.

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[JAH 3rd]

Best price and my ffl listed...........pray for me!


https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/188661

New price:

https://grabagun.com/firearms/handguns/revolvers/ruger-gp100-stainless-44-special-3-in-5-rounds.html

I am a dumb ass..........just realized two different retailers. Sorry