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23JAZ
01-07-2020, 05:28 PM
Anyone handle the CP 2.0 yet?
Is the sheath improved or will I still need to order a DSG sheath? Does Shivworks have a P-F discount code?

Wondering Beard
01-07-2020, 05:41 PM
Anyone handle the CP 2.0 yet?
Is the sheath improved or will I still need to order a DSG sheath? Does Shivworks have a P-F discount code?

Are you talking about the Ban Tang version with the diamond textured G10 that Shivworks is now selling?

If Shivworks sells it with Ban's original sheath (I assume they do), then you don't need another sheath, as far as I'm concerned. I purchased mine maybe a year ago straight from Ban's site (https://www.illumn.com/ban-tang-knives/ban-tang-x-shivworks-clinch-pick-single-edge-g10-handle.html) and it's sheath has a much smaller footprint without giving up any retention and, frankly, I like the G10 much better than the "onion bulb" grip of before.

blues
01-07-2020, 05:58 PM
Are you talking about the Ban Tang version with the diamond textured G10 that Shivworks is now selling?

If Shivworks sells it with Ban's original sheath (I assume they do), then you don't need another sheath, as far as I'm concerned. I purchased mine maybe a year ago straight from Ban's site (https://www.illumn.com/ban-tang-knives/ban-tang-x-shivworks-clinch-pick-single-edge-g10-handle.html) and it's sheath has a much smaller footprint without giving up any retention and, frankly, I like the G10 much better than the "onion bulb" grip of before.

Nice. I'm a big fan of 3V steel. Tough stuff, easy to sharpen and holds a pretty fine edge. My daily utility knife around the house is made of 3V. It was made for me by Ed Schott I don't even remember how many years ago.

23JAZ
01-07-2020, 06:19 PM
Are you talking about the Ban Tang version with the diamond textured G10 that Shivworks is now selling?

If Shivworks sells it with Ban's original sheath (I assume they do), then you don't need another sheath, as far as I'm concerned. I purchased mine maybe a year ago straight from Ban's site (https://www.illumn.com/ban-tang-knives/ban-tang-x-shivworks-clinch-pick-single-edge-g10-handle.html) and it's sheath has a much smaller footprint without giving up any retention and, frankly, I like the G10 much better than the "onion bulb" grip of before.

Shivworks has a production version of Ban’s CP with the flat sides on the bulb.

Wondering Beard
01-07-2020, 06:25 PM
Nice. I'm a big fan of 3V steel. Tough stuff, easy to sharpen and holds a pretty fine edge. My daily utility knife around the house is made of 3V. It was made for me by Ed Schott I don't even remember how many years ago.

I think Ban uses 3V in all his steel knives, and they have a "scary edge". :-)

Wondering Beard
01-07-2020, 06:28 PM
Shivworks has a production version of Ban’s CP with the flat sides on the bulb.

I'll let SouthNarc confirm, but this looks exactly like the Ban Tang knife itself, as far as I can tell from a fast trip to the Shivworks page. If that is the case, then my previous post applies.

I think that knife and sheath is a definite improvement on the original.

SouthNarc
01-07-2020, 07:27 PM
I'll let SouthNarc confirm, but this looks exactly like the Ban Tang knife itself, as far as I can tell from a fast trip to the Shivworks page. If that is the case, then my previous post applies.

I think that knife and sheath is a definite improvement on the original.

Just so we're clear, its a China made knife, same steel as the China Pick, China made sheath that has the overmolding problem taken care of, and China made scales that are a perfect remake of Ban's improved scales. It's like $20 bucks more than the standard CP.

SouthNarc
01-07-2020, 07:28 PM
Anyone handle the CP 2.0 yet?
Is the sheath improved or will I still need to order a DSG sheath? Does Shivworks have a P-F discount code?

No discount code. Our margins have thinned considerably due to Trump tariffs. So much for not affecting small business...

joker581
01-07-2020, 10:07 PM
I've got one and the sheath is greatly improved over the original China Pick sheath. I need to round the tip on my sheath down a little bit but it's great otherwise.

Totem Polar
01-07-2020, 11:13 PM
Just so we're clear, its a China made knife, same steel as the China Pick, China made sheath that has the overmolding problem taken care of, and China made scales that are a perfect remake of Ban's improved scales. It's like $20 bucks more than the standard CP.

How are the edges coming out on the new batches, boss?

SeriousStudent
01-08-2020, 12:04 AM
Ordered the 2.0 tonight. I am hoping it arrives before the EWO class next weekend, I'd love to get some reps in with the trainer.

Totem Polar
01-08-2020, 12:12 AM
Ordered the 2.0 tonight. I am hoping it arrives before the EWO class next weekend, I'd love to get some reps in with the trainer.

I hope it arrives as well. Have you done EWO yet?

SouthNarc
01-08-2020, 08:33 AM
How are the edges coming out on the new batches, boss?

They're better dude. Not Ban Tang sharp but for a factory blade made in China it's good.

Hambo
01-08-2020, 09:27 AM
Ordered a 2.0 and trainer this morning, and it's on the way already! :cool:

runcible
01-09-2020, 04:08 PM
No discount code. Our margins have thinned considerably due to Trump tariffs. So much for not affecting small business...

Oof. The Harmonized Tariff Schedule is a weird thing to navigate, and at least on the clothing and outdoor side of things leads to some design changes just to lower the tariff applied, but I have no idea how that translates to cutlery, or if there are any options in that vein.

E.g. https://www.marketplace.org/2019/05/29/theres-a-reason-your-columbia-shirt-has-a-tiny-pocket-near-your-waistline/

RoyGBiv
01-09-2020, 06:11 PM
Oof. The Harmonized Tariff Schedule is a weird thing to navigate, and at least on the clothing and outdoor side of things leads to some design changes just to lower the tariff applied, but I have no idea how that translates to cutlery, or if there are any options in that vein.

E.g. https://www.marketplace.org/2019/05/29/theres-a-reason-your-columbia-shirt-has-a-tiny-pocket-near-your-waistline/

Tariffs cut my business in half last year... Ouch.

8211.92.90.45 (sheath-type knife) ... Was... 6.1%.... Currently... 21.1% (plus 0.4 cents/each).

Some of our products went from 2% to 37%..

I'm ok with what Trump is doing to bring China to heel. But I hope it's over soon (I fear not). Here's the sad part.... Even with a +25% tariff, it's still cheaper to do metalwork in China vs. what US shops are quoting me for moving business stateside. I can build it in China, ship it by air, and still be less cost and faster, without sacrificing quality. Crazy.

SouthNarc
01-11-2020, 01:19 PM
Even with a +25% tariff, it's still cheaper to do metalwork in China vs. what US shops are quoting me for moving business stateside. I can build it in China, ship it by air, and still be less cost and faster, without sacrificing quality. Crazy.

+1000

SeriousStudent
01-11-2020, 01:34 PM
I hope it arrives as well. Have you done EWO yet?

Nope, this is my first time. I am hoping they take pity, and are merciful.

And the new Clinch Pick set arrived yesterday! Very fast shipping, and a very big tip of the Stetson to the folks at SPG! :)

I really do like the new handles. They orient very well, and I spent time last night working with the trainer.

I've got a pair of the sheaths Cecil designed on order from JM Custom, and am looking forward to carrying them.

I have one of the Ban Tang titanium double-edged Clinch Picks for suit carry, and love it as well.

RoyGBiv
01-11-2020, 01:46 PM
Nope, this is my first time. I am hoping they take pity, and are merciful. .

Was hoping to attend, but will be in Tucson checking out UA with my youngest. Have fun!?

blake_g
02-12-2020, 01:04 PM
Just so we're clear, its a China made knife, same steel as the China Pick, China made sheath that has the overmolding problem taken care of, and China made scales that are a perfect remake of Ban's improved scales. It's like $20 bucks more than the standard CP.

What's the chance that you might have a link??

runcible
02-12-2020, 01:16 PM
What's the chance that you might have a link??

Chances are high, and it’d probably look like: https://shivworkspg.com/product/shivworks-clinch-pick-2-0/

blake_g
02-12-2020, 01:25 PM
Chances are high, and it’d probably look like: https://shivworkspg.com/product/shivworks-clinch-pick-2-0/

Thanks brother - anyone told you today that you're the man??

PNWTO
03-09-2020, 02:15 PM
Has anyone put a Discreet Carry Concepts clip on their CP sheath? Wondering if you liked it and what size you used?

UNK
04-20-2020, 02:55 PM
Nope, this is my first time. I am hoping they take pity, and are merciful.

And the new Clinch Pick set arrived yesterday! Very fast shipping, and a very big tip of the Stetson to the folks at SPG! :)

I really do like the new handles. They orient very well, and I spent time last night working with the trainer.

I've got a pair of the sheaths Cecil designed on order from JM Custom, and am looking forward to carrying them.

I have one of the Ban Tang titanium double-edged Clinch Picks for suit carry, and love it as well.

So did those fit the 2.0? Did you get one for the trainer too?