M&P 2.0 Compact 4.0" 9mm and Originial Shield 9mm pictures

[Mystery]

Just got the original Shield yesterday and put it next to the compact 4".
I always wondered how much different they are in terms of size and height.
With 8 round magazine, Shield same height as the 4" compact.
The rear slights are narrower so it's hard to see gaps in between.
Maybe night/glowing sights help.
Shield shoots little high but that maybe just me with new gun.
I only tried th 8 round magazine and it feels pretty good.
Also, the magazines don't flush completely and have little bit gap.

Here are the pictures, lots of them to compare with 8 round and 7 round magazines with 4" compact.
Cell phone camera so nothing professional. ;)

Shield with 8 round magazine:
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Shield with 7 round magazine:
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As you can see, Shield's rear sights are closer together:
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[Alpha Sierra]

I tried a friend's Shield and found it unshootable. From the too thin, too slick, too short grip, to the barely usable sights, I advised him to sell it ASAP. He tried my CZ P-01 and ended up with a CZ 75D PCR.

[Mystery]

I tried a friend's Shield and found it unshootable. From the too thin, too slick, too short grip, to the barely usable sights, I advised him to sell it ASAP. He tried my CZ P-01 and ended up with a CZ 75D PCR.

That's what I was afraid of when I got it but it feels pretty good.
It feels little skinny but I found it pretty good.
Maybe because I was used to the compact.

Aim was little bit high compared to the compact probably due to different grip size changing the point of aim.
The only thing that is difficult is the rear sights gap.
It's already hard on the compact and shield has even narrower sights so can't get even gap around the front sight.
Hopefully, more range time fixes that.
I only tried 8 round magazine and 7 round maybe little bit harder due to shorter grip.
We'll see next time with the 7 round magazine.

[FPS]

Nice set of pics, thx for posting.

Some shoot the Shield really well, others dont. Completely user preference.

[camsdaddy]

I tried a friend's Shield and found it unshootable. From the too thin, too slick, too short grip, to the barely usable sights, I advised him to sell it ASAP. He tried my CZ P-01 and ended up with a CZ 75D PCR.

I guess similar. I found that I can shoot the single stacks as well slow as I can the doubles. If I speed up I find the gun twist in recoil.

[psalms144.1]

This goes back to the P365 vs everything else threads - these micro-compacts are great to carry, not to shoot. I have a Shield in .45, and it's uber accurate (scarily so), but it's darned near uncontrollable in any timed drills - just too much recoil and not enough meat to hold onto. I'm firmly convinced there's a tipping point in grip size below which any real shootability is hard to achieve in normal human hands (meaning not GJM or other high level competitors who shoot EVERYTHING very well).

Having said that, the Shield is a great "get off me" gun, or a gun for deep concealment for those who don't have badge & credentials to hide behind because of their "casual" version of concealment.

[Duelist]

That's what I was afraid of when I got it but it feels pretty good.
It feels little skinny but I found it pretty good.
Maybe because I was used to the compact.

Aim was little bit high compared to the compact probably due to different grip size changing the point of aim.
The only thing that is difficult is the rear sights gap.
It's already hard on the compact and shield has even narrower sights so can't get even gap around the front sight.
Hopefully, more range time fixes that.
I only tried 8 round magazine and 7 round maybe little bit harder due to shorter grip.
We'll see next time with the 7 round magazine.

I thought my Shield 9 was a nice little gun that shot well - but my buddy’s Shield .40 was pretty unpleasant.

Both of my magazines failed at less than 200 rounds through the gun, so I traded it for a G26 that I am much happier with.

[Mystery]

This goes back to the P365 vs everything else threads - these micro-compacts are great to carry, not to shoot. I have a Shield in .45, and it's uber accurate (scarily so), but it's darned near uncontrollable in any timed drills - just too much recoil and not enough meat to hold onto. I'm firmly convinced there's a tipping point in grip size below which any real shootability is hard to achieve in normal human hands (meaning not GJM or other high level competitors who shoot EVERYTHING very well).

Having said that, the Shield is a great "get off me" gun, or a gun for deep concealment for those who don't have badge & credentials to hide behind because of their "casual" version of concealment.

Shield will be the first one to carry.
If I find it too small, good news is I already have the compact. ;)

As for P365, I tried it in the range.
It feels pretty good but didn't have manual safety when I tried it.
It's little pricey but now it released a version with manual safety so it could be next.

[Alpha Sierra]

This goes back to the P365 vs everything else threads - these micro-compacts are great to carry, not to shoot. I have a Shield in .45, and it's uber accurate (scarily so), but it's darned near uncontrollable in any timed drills - just too much recoil and not enough meat to hold onto. I'm firmly convinced there's a tipping point in grip size below which any real shootability is hard to achieve in normal human hands (meaning not GJM or other high level competitors who shoot EVERYTHING very well).

Having said that, the Shield is a great "get off me" gun, or a gun for deep concealment for those who don't have badge & credentials to hide behind because of their "casual" version of concealment.

I don't know what a P365 is. But I won't carry any semi auto that isn't double stack and at least as big as a Glock 19. A CZ P-01 fits the bill perfectly. And based on how much I'm liking the P-10F, it's very likely I'll get a P-10C for EDC.

If I need something ultra concealable I have a 637 with a bobbed hammer.

[0ddl0t]

As for P365, I tried it in the range.
It feels pretty good but didn't have manual safety when I tried it.
It's little pricey but now it released a version with manual safety so it could be next.

I love my P365, but since you just purchased your first gun ~6 months ago I think you'd be much better off putting 3+ cases of ammo through your shield in dedicated practice before adding another ccw pistol to your collection.


I don't know what a P365 is.
It is a surprisingly shootable 10+1 pocket 9mm.

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[Trukinjp13]

I had a lot of rounds through a shield before moving to the g43. I really do not see how people put them down so much. With some Talons and sights am amazed at how well they shoot. I shoot the g43 better out of the two. Never hurt my hands and honestly not much off my g19 in my hands. I threw the j frame in the safe and never looked back.


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[PD Sgt.]

I have always felt Smith hit it out of the park with the Shield, particularly prior to the release of the G43/43X. I have had three, currently still have two, all first generation models. I have found them to be accurate, reliable, and very easy to conceal. I usually carry mine with a 7 round mag with a pinkie extension (I can’t remember who makes them right now) and have as good a control on them as I could expect from a pistol that size.

I agree that speed work requires a good grip, but for me and my purposes it is an acceptable trade off for a pistol I generally use for low risk/threat environments. If I want something bigger it is usually in the G19 size range, though recently I have rediscovered how much I like my 1.0 compacts as well.

[LockedBreech]

I shoot my Shield 2.0 far better than I shot my G43. Just goes to show that choice/variety is a good thing.

[gruntjim]

I have always felt Smith hit it out of the park with the Shield, particularly prior to the release of the G43/43X. I have had three, currently still have two, all first generation models. I have found them to be accurate, reliable, and very easy to conceal. I usually carry mine with a 7 round mag with a pinkie extension (I can’t remember who makes them right now) and have as good a control on them as I could expect from a pistol that size.

I agree that speed work requires a good grip, but for me and my purposes it is an acceptable trade off for a pistol I generally use for low risk/threat environments. If I want something bigger it is usually in the G19 size range, though recently I have rediscovered how much I like my 1.0 compacts as well.

Pretty much the same boat. For routine/ low-risk, the Shield 2.0. As a belt gun, the 2.0 4" Compact.

Neither of mine have ever choked, though they showed an early preference for different ammo (which seemed to go away once I had about 400 rounds down their respective pipes).

[Mystery]

Compared to Compact, the shield's barrel moves when trigger clicks.
I can press the trigger slowly and compact's barrel move is insignificant but shield's barrel jerks slightly.
Is it because small frame and short barrel?

[ThatDude]

I was carrying a G19 for a few years. The Shield is my EDC and love it. Easy to carry and to shoot with. If you carry appendix and have a holster with a wing, carrying with the mag extension is not an issue at all printing wise. People say if you can carry a Shield/G43 appendix then you should be able to carry a G19 no problem. I just didn't like the bulkiness but to each their own.

[10mmfanboy]

I got a shield when they first came out, it had a horrid gritty trigger so I installed a full apex kit. But in the end I could not keep the front sight from twitching left no matter how I griped the pistol. I think it has something to do with the thin front strap for me. But the shield did seem to absorb recoil better than my g43 and feel like a slightly bigger gun. I am sure the 2.0 are pretty sweet by now. I'd like to get my hands on the 4" shield some time and see how that one works for me. I also wish they would make the safety bigger on the shield and more useable.

How does the safety work out for you on the compact?

[Mystery]

... I'd like to get my hands on the 4" shield some time and see how that one works for me. I also wish they would make the safety bigger on the shield and more useable.

How does the safety work out for you on the compact?
The compact is my first gun and it's great.
The safety feels great and I can rest my thumb on it easily.

The safety on shield is small and little bit harder to engage.
I guess it prevents engaging it accidentally while carrying.

Shield shoots fine but I'm having trouble hitting the target.
It's off my few inches compared to the compact when I compared side by side.
Looks like their sights are not aligned the same or it's the shooter's skill. ;)