Is anyone doing Glock finger groove removal with a stock appearing finish?

[HeavyDuty]

I’m finding I really prefer the non finger grooved frontstraps on my Gen5s. Is anyone commercially doing finger groove removal with a front strap finish that is as close to stock as possible? I know getting diamonds is unlikely, but I don’t care for the vast majority of stippling styles I’ve seen. Thanks!

[Clay1]

Just buy a Gen 5, another Glock is a good thing. :cool:

ATEi would be where I would look if you really want something, but after you look at the price, I'm back to just buy a Gen 5.

https://ateiguns.com/product/custom-glock-work/#top-of-slide-options

[Obelisk]

Just buy a Gen 5, another Glock is a good thing. :cool:

ATEi would be where I would look if you really want something, but after you look at the price, I'm back to just buy a Gen 5.

https://ateiguns.com/product/custom-glock-work/#top-of-slide-options

They have some nice looking guns on there. I just want a Glock with a nice trigger and sights.

[Clay1]

They have some nice looking guns on there. I just want a Glock with a nice trigger and sights.

I own, Gen 3, 4 and 5 Glocks. I personally think that the Gen 5s are the nicest.

Full disclosure, I just ordered two Overwatch Precision Gen 4 Tac Flat triggers (just because I wanted to try a duty rated flat trigger on a couple of carry guns)

Go be happy.

[GJM]

My understanding is the FBI asked that finger grooves be deleted from the M pistol design, and that is why they are not on Gen 5 pistols.

Despite thinking I disliked finger grooves, and spending good money to remove them over the years, I have come to the realization that I shoot better with a Glock with finger grooves. Other folks I respect have come to a similar opinion, although the larger magwell on Gen 5 pistols may offset this removal of finger grooves. My hope is the Gen 6 gets finger grooves back.

For those that prefer no finger grooves, how did you come to the conclusion that removing finger grooves helps your performance?

[Darth_Uno]

For those that prefer no finger grooves, how did you come to the conclusion that removing finger grooves helps your performance?

I have skinny fingers. Buzzing the finger grooves off a Gen 3 or 4 helps me ram my fingers up as high as I can.

It doesn't make much of a difference, but on scored drills I do better with no finger grooves when accuracy and distance is a factor. Time hasn't really been as much of a factor as accuracy - when my fingers are spread it starts to show at longer distances (10+ yards).

I've removed them and stippled several Gen 3's, but if I had to spend money again I'd just get a Gen 5. And probably still stipple it to my preference, but at least I wouldn't have to cut off the finger grooves.

[SW CQB 45]

I’m finding I really prefer the non finger grooved frontstraps on my Gen5s. Is anyone commercially doing finger groove removal with a front strap finish that is as close to stock as possible? I know getting diamonds is unlikely, but I don’t care for the vast majority of stippling styles I’ve seen. Thanks!

HD, we are in the same boat.

I have a 2016 G19 G4 upper that was modded for a red dot by L&M. I was going to sell it but decided to buy a new G4 G19 lower for it.

I have very large hands and actually prefer the factory texture.

I dont care for the finger grooves, and if I could find someone to remove them while retaining the factory front strap texture and a Jarvis high cut front strap..... thats all I want.

https://i.imgur.com/aX6zwoPl.jpg

here is the Jarvis front strap I want

https://i.imgur.com/3nJhfFsl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/z4aHHMql.png

I qualed with this issued piece today. Very smooth

https://i.imgur.com/PvHY8ehl.jpg

[camsdaddy]

I removed the finer grooves on a gen 3 26. I just took a dremil and a barrel sanding bit and went slow. I got it close and then finished it by hand. I could have left it but I finished it with a set of talon grips. I enjoyed it a while and decided I had to have a gen 4. I've never gotten the urge to remove the grooves on the gen 4.

[EPF]

I removed the finer grooves on a gen 3 26. I just took a dremil and a barrel sanding bit and went slow. I got it close and then finished it by hand. I could have left it but I finished it with a set of talon grips. I enjoyed it a while and decided I had to have a gen 4. I've never gotten the urge to remove the grooves on the gen 4.

I greatly prefer the grooves on the 26. I’m ambivalent about the larger guns but for me the 26 really benefits from them.

[BehindBlueI's]

For those that prefer no finger grooves, how did you come to the conclusion that removing finger grooves helps your performance?

Finger grooves = blisters.

No finger grooves = no blisters.

[TGS]

Finger grooves developed by Karl Nill are okay.

So, a P30/VP9 or actual Nill grips, like the SW39s I have on my Combat Magnum.

Otherwise no, the Glock ones are uncomfortable to me.

[HeavyDuty]

Glock ones fit me poorly enough that I’d like to remove them from my Gen4s that aren’t available as Gen5s.

[hiro]

For those that prefer no finger grooves, how did you come to the conclusion that removing finger grooves helps your performance?

After I filed them down on my 17-4, I regretted it, thinking I should just learn the gun and not what I thought the gun should be. Slave to fashion? Perhaps. I can't say I shoot the pistol better without the finger grooves tho I think aspects of my shooting are improving. I think because it's a process of practice and attention tho, not the lack of finger grooves.

[Holmes375]

This is what my finger groove removal looks like:

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[Magsz]

My fingers don't actually sit in the grooves. They sit across them at an angle which results in blisters during high round count training.

[BigT]

I greatly prefer the grooves on the 26. I’m ambivalent about the larger guns but for me the 26 really benefits from them.

I feel the same way about the 26. I made the mistake of removing the finger grooves off my old Gen4 and regretted it until I sold it. Its the only 9mm Glock that if I bought another one today would be a Gen3 not a Gen5.

[HeavyDuty]

This is what my finger groove removal looks like:

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Exactly what I’m looking for. Are you doing these commercially? I’m not seeing anything in your profile.

[HopetonBrown]

I had some removed by Texaspoff about 5 years ago.

[vcdgrips]

Prepping for Grand Jury
Will Post my step by step later this am

[vcdgrips]

Finger Groove Removal

Unload the weapon
Make sure the weapon is unloaded
Field strip the weapon
Using blue or green paint tape, tape off the areas of the grip that you ARE NOT sanding down

Put the frame in a vise between two paperback books


Technique 1
using strips of increasing grits of sandpaper-50/100/400/800, shoeshine stroke the grooves off going low and slow.

Technique 2
Using a dremel tool, remove about 50% of the finger grooves first, then use 1 above

Technique 3
Using a dremel tool, remove about 95% of the finger grooves first, then use 1 above

The dremel will take off material quickly. The dremel can generate enough heat to burn a hole through the frame. Be very careful using the dremel.


FWIW/YMMV Greatly.

PS-if you have any doubt re using the dremel or if you have never used a dremel before on polymer, just use Technique #1.

[Holmes375]

Exactly what I’m looking for. Are you doing these commercially? I’m not seeing anything in your profile.

No, I'm just an incurable tinkerer ;)

[HCM]

Finger Groove Removal

Unload the weapon
Make sure the weapon is unloaded
Field strip the weapon
Using blue or green paint tape, tape off the areas of the grip that you ARE NOT sanding down

Put the frame in a vise between two paperback books


Technique 1
using strips of increasing grits of sandpaper-50/100/400/800, shoeshine stroke the grooves off going low and slow.

Technique 2
Using a dremel tool, remove about 50% of the finger grooves first, then use 1 above

Technique 3
Using a dremel tool, remove about 95% of the finger grooves first, then use 1 above

The dremel will take off material quickly. The dremel can generate enough heat to burn a hole through the frame. Be very careful using the dremel.


FWIW/YMMV Greatly.

PS-if you have any doubt re using the dremel or if you have never used a dremel before on polymer, just use Technique #1.

You can substitute a large hand held bastard file for the Dremel.

[psalms144.1]

I use sanding blocks for finishing work after dremeling off the nubs to about 50%.

[HeavyDuty]

No, I'm just an incurable tinkerer ;)

Tease!

How do you get the decent finish on the altered area? I have a 19.4 that I did some contouring in, and I was never happy with the final finish where I was working. That will probably be my Guinea pig for this project.

[Old Man Winter]

Perhaps my recollection is off but I thought I saw some pics / vids on the instagram from a company who removes the grooves with a vertical milling center and lasers new texture that was RTF2'ish. Can't tell you who it was but it looked nice.

[Doublestack45]

When I started in with gen4 19's I wanted to take the grooves down or off altogether. What I did first was just undercut the trigger guard and it really opened up the space I needed for my fat middle finger knuckle. Feels like a much different gun for my medium/chuncky hands.
Never felt the need to do this on my 17 as the space between the triggerguard and the first bump seems bigger than the 19's.
I believe that keeping the bumps just adds more surface area and contact, so I've not touched them.

[SW CQB 45]

I did it to a G19 frame some time back and sold that frame.

It was alot of work and I did not like that my finished area did not match the factory finish. I found the images.

I wonder if lower pressure bead blast would have cleaned up my sanding marks.

https://i.imgur.com/regwmAUh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CShu1Zwh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/k9PeHVqh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/WiTNxh5h.jpg

[Cool Breeze]

When I started in with gen4 19's I wanted to take the grooves down or off altogether. What I did first was just undercut the trigger guard and it really opened up the space I needed for my fat middle finger knuckle. Feels like a much different gun for my medium/chuncky hands.
Never felt the need to do this on my 17 as the space between the triggerguard and the first bump seems bigger than the 19's.
I believe that keeping the bumps just adds more surface area and contact, so I've not touched them.

I don't have a gen5 to compare performance but the narrower width between them and the trigger guard on a G19 gives me the worst case of glock knuckle that I don't get with the wider grooves on a G17 or G26. On the G19, they just push or lever that knuckle so far up into the guard that it rubs it raw. Maybe it's just the way I grip the gun that there is some slight twisting or leverage that makes my fingers not exactly parallel to the grooves when I shoot. Either way, I only experience it with the G19. I have average side medium Mechanix glove size hands.

That was a smart way to fix it BTW!

ETA - as I think about it. As evidence on my G19, the finger grooves probably do a good job of keeping your hand high on the gun as they give you more leverage to push up on... So maybe they do serve a purpose if they fit correctly? I'm not losing sleep over it as long as I don't tear up my knuckle.

[Texaspoff]

I’m finding I really prefer the non finger grooved frontstraps on my Gen5s. Is anyone commercially doing finger groove removal with a front strap finish that is as close to stock as possible? I know getting diamonds is unlikely, but I don’t care for the vast majority of stippling styles I’ve seen. Thanks!



I just did three of them like that. I don't have a picture of them right now, but this is the finish I use where the humps were. I leave the factory texturing in place.


Her is a picture of an undercut with the texturing, and a frame bevel I did on a 4th Gen to match a slide bevel. This is what the area where the finger humps looks like when finished.

https://i.imgur.com/T3JHeuA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xTdgOQ2.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/gy5lYxI.jpg?1

I'll get some shots of one of the ones I did this afternoon when I get home from work.


I can also remove the finger humps and just texture the rectangular area in a fine texturing, like this, but only in the front strap area.

https://i.imgur.com/D9E9vcNl.jpg

TXPO

[Texaspoff]

Was able to get a few quick shots of the finger hump removal and texturing on a 3rd gen.

https://i.imgur.com/CINypix.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/v1K5130.jpg


Gen4's are done the same way.


TXPO

[HeavyDuty]

I just did three of them like that. I don't have a picture of them right now, but this is the finish I use where the humps were. I leave the factory texturing in place.


Her is a picture of an undercut with the texturing, and a frame bevel I did on a 4th Gen to match a slide bevel. This is what the area where the finger humps looks like when finished.

https://i.imgur.com/T3JHeuA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xTdgOQ2.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/gy5lYxI.jpg?1

I'll get some shots of one of the ones I did this afternoon when I get home from work.


I can also remove the finger humps and just texture the rectangular area in a fine texturing, like this, but only in the front strap area.

https://i.imgur.com/D9E9vcNl.jpg

TXPO
That looks great!

[Holmes375]

That looks great!

I'll second that! Very nice work.

[HeavyDuty]

This is the victim for the project. It currently is not carried often, and has a Magpul mag well that I was given to evaluate which may come off - the jury is still out.

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[Blades]

For those that prefer no finger grooves, how did you come to the conclusion that removing finger grooves helps your performance?

When I had a G30G3 the finger groves were fine. I switched to a G29G3 and the fingers grooves didn't work. My theory is more/different recoil with the 10mm and it squirmed around in my hand. I had them removed and an undercut done and my grouping improved. I have more contact with the grip with the finger grooves removed on my G29 and it helps keep it on target. These days I'm carrying a G19G4(with the large backstrap/beavertail) which has been undercut with some grip work, but still has finger grooves. The undercut helped align my fingers with the grooves. A regular ol'G19 Gen2 or 3 grip never felt right in my hand.

[Tokarev]

No finger grooves....

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[HCM]

No finger grooves....

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Not Glocks.

Glock pattern guns. YMMV

[EzGoingKev]

https://i.imgur.com/D9E9vcNl.jpg

Great work as usual. I would love to shoot that to how it feels/shoots with the grip reduction.

[Quantrill]

For those that prefer no finger grooves, how did you come to the conclusion that removing finger grooves helps your performance?

Glock knuckle is a thing for me. I’ve tried to just power through it, build up a callous, and under cutting the trigger guard.

I finally ground the bumps off my Gen3’s. My performance is better because I can actually practice without bleeding :)