Relatives with undisciplined dogs

[LittleLebowski]

What a pain to deal with. BIL (brother in law) has a dog that nips at kids, chases cats, and barks non stop if left outside. Also, my well behaved and well disciplined German Shepherd is gonna have a huge problem with the BIL’s dog bothering cats and not behaving around kids.

I just don’t understand people that can’t raise a dog properly.

[Dan_S]

I feel your pain.

It seems good dogs are few and far between, and the subject usually gets pretty touchy with people defending their useless mutt’s ill behaviour.

[Borderland]

What a pain to deal with. BIL (brother in law) has a dog that nips at kids, chases cats, and barks non stop if left outside. Also, my well behaved and well disciplined German Shepherd is gonna have a huge problem with the BIL’s dog bothering cats and not behaving around kids.

I just don’t understand people that can’t raise a dog properly.

I've trained a few bird dogs.

It helps if you're smarter than the dog. If not, get help.

Or maybe your BIL just doesn't give a shit.

Your GS will probably take care of it. Maybe your BIL will see the light. Here's hoping.

[Irelander]

Life is too short for undisciplined dogs. While most dogs are trainable, alas some are not.

[LittleLebowski]

I've trained a few bird dogs.

It helps if you're smarter than the dog. If not, get help.

Or maybe your BIL just doesn't give a shit.

Your GS will probably take care of it. Maybe your BIL will see the light. Here's hoping.

This is a smart guy (infectious diseases doctor), but I don’t think he knows a damn thing about dogs. The SIL is busy divorcing him.

[willie]

Be aware that you(LL)might have a hefty vet bill if the protective dog takes a hunk out of the other guy's dog. Explaining that the shepherd has been socialized to become a family member and that he is paid(affection, shelter, and food)to monitor and protect might show the in-law the big picture. Too, somebody should tell the man that nipping is a warning for something worse to follow. As an obsessive and compulsive person about child safety, I would tell this man that I am afraid for my children and state further that we can't predict animals. Truth is you can predict yours. The relative can't predict his. Now for something that you may not have thought of. Your pup knows that the other dog owns owns your in-law. If his dog bites your child, then your shepherd will first kill his dog and then tear him a new ass. You will get a big screwing on your home owners insurance, the local government might take possession of your dog, and you very easily could be out $1000's of dollars. Another point. The shepherd knows that you don't like the other dog and also has picked up on your unstated opinion of the other man. That ,sir, is your pup's clue to kill the dog and jump on the man. I am a zoologist by training with 90 semester hours in the field. Despite being an old burned out school teacher, that is my opinion.

[pangloss]

My dog has taught me that I don't know a damned thing about dogs either. She's good with the kids though.

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[Borderland]

This is a smart guy (infectious diseases doctor), but I don’t think he knows a damn thing about dogs. The SIL is busy divorcing him.

In that case he should have got himself some training along with the dog. Certainly he understands training.

I welcome all dogs at my house but they have to behave. If there's a problem I demand that they be kenneled (I have the kennels) until the owner can get the dog under control or take the dog elsewhere. No exceptions. It's not personal, just a house rule.

I don't know a lot about German Shepherds but I've lately come to admire the breed. My neighbor kept a well trained GS for about 6 months. We became great pals and she came down to see me everyday. We took walks together on our property and she obayed commands well. Very protective of her interim family and extremely intelligent. Unfortunately she had to go home a few weeks ago.

I'm used to hard headed bird dogs and some of them are a challenge to train. I think that has to do with the fact they aren't really breed to be family dogs, just hunters. Hard lessons sometimes.

I wouldn't have any preconceived notions about dogs because sometimes they will adapt to the situation. The owners are usually the biggest problems.

[Odin Bravo One]

Well, my dog is doped up, so she will behave while you’re here.

[Poconnor]

A smart well trained dog is a joy to own. It takes a lot of time, love and discipline to raise and train a dog. They really are like children. Everybody knows somebody with spoiled bratty kids; the same goes with dogs. I really hate when somebody has a large untrained hard dog. It’s a recipe for disaster. Even untrained friendly dogs can hurt people. I had an ambulance call with a friendly lab that got loose and knocked an elderly lady over and she broke her hip. She was simply walking down the sidewalk and the lab jumped up to be petted. I always recommend the John wolters dog training books.

[Poconnor]

Is the dog a herding breed? Or is he nipping at kids from fear? Prey drive?

[camsdaddy]

The man sounds to be very intelligent. The dogs behavior and the wife’s behavior may be a reflection of his common sense.
If the dog were at my house and nipping at my kids he would no longer be welcome at my house. My family and their safety is my first priority. Hurt feelings come down the line.

[Clusterfrack]

What a pain to deal with. BIL (brother in law) has a dog that nips at kids, chases cats, and barks non stop if left outside. Also, my well behaved and well disciplined German Shepherd is gonna have a huge problem with the BIL’s dog bothering cats and not behaving around kids.

I just don’t understand people that can’t raise a dog properly.

Ugh. That sucks. I hate it when people don't train their dogs, or train them poorly. I know a guy who owns a GSD. The dog bites people's hands, and then the dude gives her a treat. It doesn't take a genius to see that he's trained his dog to bite people's hands. After I knocked the dog down 3 times with knee-to-chest, he got pissed at me. I tried to explain that I don't let dogs bite or jump on me, but he couldn't understand or didn't care.

[11B10]

I feel your pain.

It seems good dogs are few and far between, and the subject usually gets pretty touchy with people defending their useless mutt’s ill behaviour.



In my experience, one can predict what the owner's reaction will be - it will match the canine.

[Dan_S]

In my experience, one can predict what the owner's reaction will be - it will match the canine.

That’s an interesting point.

Some of the best dogs I’ve been around, were working dogs. Interestingly, their owners didn’t really view them as pets, and wouldn’t have had an issue (and didn’t, judging by the stories) shooting ill-behaved dogs either.

[willie]

Once I adopted a giant Tom Cat. When I got him, he had a neurotic habit. He would bite persons who began petting him and then stopped. I tried breaking this habit with a fly swapper. No luck. Next I borrowed a hot shot which is a cattle prod. That changed his mind. One application taught him to read. Today I would not shock a dog or cat but do fantasize about putting a shock collar on some people. I think it wood be good for them. I'm humanistic.

[Lost River]

Well, my dog is doped up, so she will behave while you’re here.


Damn dude,

Stone Cold Killer, AND an infectious disease doctor!

I am impressed!

Sorry about the divorce..

Don't worry about LL,

He is just being grouchy.

:cool:

[LittleLebowski]

Well, my dog is doped up, so she will behave while you’re here.

She behaved last time too :D

[Borderland]

Once I adopted a giant Tom Cat. When I got him, he had a neurotic habit. He would bite persons who began petting him and then stopped. I tried breaking this habit with a fly swapper. No luck. Next I borrowed a hot shot which is a cattle prod. That changed his mind. One application taught him to read. Today I would not shock a dog or cat but do fantasize about putting a shock collar on some people. I think it wood be good for them. I'm humanistic.

Didn't they call that shock therapy years ago?

Collars are pretty common in the hunting world. Not for everyone because a lot of people won't train themselves on the proper use. They shouldn't actually be used as a training tool as the dog should be trained to whistle commands before using a collar.

They come in pretty handy tho after the dog is trained. When a dog is hunting sometimes it's hard to communicate. They get pretty focused on their job. Wind will sometimes limit the use of a whistle also. Collars now have tone alerts and trackers on them. I use my tone alert to call my dog in if she doesn't respond to a whistle command. It's also a great reinforcement tool once the dog knows the commands. Settings are many and low settings can gently remind the dog of an infraction. Kind of like a warning in a baseball game.

Hunting can be dangerous for a dog and it's best to have them in control 100% of the time. Almost everyone I've hunted with had e-collars on their dogs.

Collars should be tested on yourself before you use them. That will give you a good idea about which settings to not use. If it's too hot for you it's too hot for your buddy.

[LittleLebowski]

This has been resolved, he's boarding the damn thing.

[Warped Mindless]

Future brother in law invited us over for dinner one night. Once there he introduced us to a big mutt he just got from the shelter.

The dog seemed ok for a while but then out of nowhere tried to bite my GFs three year old daughter. I was up and kicked the dog in the face before the owner could even get out of his recliner.

Im glad the mutt decided to stand down after that. Im not a huge guy and didn't want to fight off an aggressive K9 that evening.

[farscott]

Our neighbor has said on more than one occasion that our dogs listen and mind better than her elementary school-age son. I explained that is because the dogs know who is in charge.