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Unobtanium
10-10-2019, 06:15 PM
https://www.nonoise-earplugs.com/en/products/shoot/

This is what I've come up with. My goal is for a limited use with an extremely obnoxious gun, to be tamped down to "my ears didn't ring afterwards/I shot it indoors without losing hearing" without killing situation awareness. This means a mag or two, not an all-day range affair, which I double up with foam/muffs for.

Is there a better option? Will this leave me disappointed? Amazon seemed to give it some legit reviews, the only complaint being a few people "lost it in their ear" due to the short stem, which sucks, yes, but it's not like surgery was required, just a friend and some tweezers, and I am not sure how high functioning said people were, or not, but the product has been around since 2015 so likely they aren't being sued to death for it.

I did look at the Surefire Sonic Defenders, but they seemed pretty "meh" in comparison.

RJ
10-10-2019, 07:08 PM
I have a Masters in Engineering in Acoustics, Speech and Signal Processing.

I have no clue what a “Precision-tuned Ceramic Sound Filter” is.

I suspicion these are decent, in ear canal devices with around 20 dB NRR.

In other words about as good as a $0.59 Howard Leight foam plug, properly inserted.

Shrug.

Unobtanium
10-11-2019, 01:48 AM
I have a Masters in Engineering in Acoustics, Speech and Signal Processing.

I have no clue what a “Precision-tuned Ceramic Sound Filter” is.

I suspicion these are decent, in ear canal devices with around 20 dB NRR.

In other words about as good as a $0.59 Howard Leight foam plug, properly inserted.

Shrug.

They have a ton of "works as advertised" Amazon reviews. I do not know what or how or anything about "filter technology", but lots of people seem to agree that they perform as stated?
https://www.amazon.com/Nonoise-Shoot-Generation-Ceramic-Filter/dp/B00HF7E6JW/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=nonoise+shoot&qid=1570776375&sr=8-1

Clusterfrack
10-11-2019, 02:56 AM
Get these. 2 pair for $7. I agree with RJ about the BS advertising of the other ones.

Howard Leight SmartFit Corded Reusable Shooting Earplugs, 2-Pairs (R-01520) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DRNK9C/

Unobtanium
10-11-2019, 04:46 AM
Get these. 2 pair for $7. I agree with RJ about the BS advertising of the other ones.

Howard Leight SmartFit Corded Reusable Shooting Earplugs, 2-Pairs (R-01520) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DRNK9C/

Thanks. I was hoping. I already have the Peltor equivalent of those, but was looking for "the better mousetrap".

Darth_Uno
10-11-2019, 05:04 AM
Looks similar to the Surefires, without the flange. I’ve known a couple guys who tried the Surefires. Some say they can maybe sorta hear better, some say they can’t really tell. I wouldn’t know without trying it for myself. But nobody was convincing enough to make me rush out and buy my own.

I keep a 100-pack of foam plugs in my truck for work, which is usually all I use if I’m shooting outdoors by myself.

BN
10-11-2019, 06:13 AM
https://earinc.com/product/chameleon-ears-heardefenders-df/

I have a set of these, which seem to be a similar filter. They work OK plus I carry them in my pocket everywhere I go.

If you want to be able to hear and not damage your ears, you need electronic muffs especially for an obnoxious gun.

Unobtanium
10-11-2019, 07:57 AM
https://earinc.com/product/chameleon-ears-heardefenders-df/

I have a set of these, which seem to be a similar filter. They work OK plus I carry them in my pocket everywhere I go.

If you want to be able to hear and not damage your ears, you need electronic muffs especially for an obnoxious gun.

I settled on ordering a smattering of products to try, to see which fit my ear best. I mainly wanted something to keep on the gun for hunting, etc. when it was raining so I didn't mess up my electronic stuff. I typically just use foamies when I shoot, but wanted a nicer option that won't have issues being used/re-used on several days hunt and stores easily, etc. Here is what I ordered to try:

43544

They are only 100 miles or so from me, and so they should arrive relatively soon, Monday at the latest I'd think.

Erik
10-11-2019, 02:15 PM
I have a set of these: https://www.earasers.net/ I got them based on a recommendation in an earlier thread on the subject. I got the ones for concerts, etc. and use them a lot for things like flights, hanging out at the track, etc. I think they're terrific. They're very comfortable, cleanable and I actually can hear although not as well as without them. I like them much better than the surefire ones. They make an industrial rated set as well. I got them on sale with a free case, IIRC.

Cool Breeze
12-19-2019, 09:51 PM
I've tried the Surefires and I thought they sucked at actually keeping sound out. My current go to are Howard Light Max foamies. I love them because they are good at protecting ears and are very comfortable - but they aren't good at letting voices in as that is what they are designed for.

I know people that use an Otis Earshield for hunting.... It's supposed to use some sort of magic tech. I can't confirm though.

Looking forward to hearing about your testing.

JTQ
12-20-2019, 07:30 AM
I already have the Peltor equivalent of those, but was looking for "the better mousetrap".
I've used audiologist made, custom molded ear plugs for many years.

http://hearing.wustl.edu/Hearing-Education-Center/Hearing-Loss-Prevention-and-Ear-Protection/Custom-Fit-Earplugs

They may not seal better than foam plugs inserted perfectly, but they are much easier to insert properly, and last a long time.

RJ
12-20-2019, 07:56 AM
JTQ what’s the rough cost of a set of those custom plugs?

Been meaning to try a pair of these at some point but the ratings seem mixed.

https://www.amazon.com/Decibullz-Earplugs-Comfortable-Protection-Shooting/dp/B01MTF2I54




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JTQ
12-20-2019, 10:47 AM
JTQ what’s the rough cost of a set of those custom plugs?

Been meaning to try a pair of these at some point but the ratings seem mixed.

https://www.amazon.com/Decibullz-Earplugs-Comfortable-Protection-Shooting/dp/B01MTF2I54




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I'm not current on the cost.

I bought my first set in the mid-80's and they were in the $60 - $80 range, I believe. They were provided by the sister-in-law of one of the guys in the squadron, so I don't know if they were significantly discounted or not.

My second set, and the pair I'm currently using, was somewhat of an accidental gift from the US Navy, back in the early 2000's, so they were free.

If I insert foam plugs perfectly, something I don't usually accomplish, the foam plugs work better. However, I can pop the custom plugs in both ears faster than I can roll one foam plug up for insertion. I also find the custom plugs more comfortable, and they are durable and easy to clean since I'm still using nearly 20 year old set.

Casey
12-20-2019, 06:30 PM
I have a pair from Ear Inc. They were pricey, but worth it. I always double up with plugs and muffs, and with the low-profile option, they are very comfortable worn under a pair of MSAs. https://earinc.com/product/chameleon-ears-dec-impulse-filtered-earplugs/