View Full Version : DIA analyst caught leaking to CNBC journalist
LittleLebowski
10-10-2019, 07:56 AM
These things happen, right? However, these two idiots were posting pics of themselves to FB and you'll never guess where she got some of the info for her articles. John Murphy
Idiots.
https://heavy.com/news/2019/10/henry-kyle-frese/
According to a review of articles published by Macias and Kube mentioned in those court documents, the leaked information pertained to China and North Korea. In May 2018, Macias wrote a report for CNBC about China quietly installing missile systems on the strategic Spratly Islands in the contested South China Sea. The information was sourced to a Pentagon official.
In June 2018, Kube, along with two other NBC reporters, wrote a highly publicized report about North Korea increasing nuclear production at secret sites. The report contradicted President Trump’s tweet that same month that “there was no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea” following his June 12 summit with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un.
The investigation into Frese included a wiretap of his phone, which captured a call on September 24, 2019, he had with Kube in which prosecutors say he gave her classified information.
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/frese-macias.jpg
LittleLebowski
10-10-2019, 07:57 AM
Her Twitter. Damn, she made it easy for the investigators.
https://twitter.com/amanda_m_macias
LittleLebowski
10-10-2019, 08:10 AM
His Twitter. He actually retweeted an article she wrote using info he leaked.
https://twitter.com/hkfrese
wvincent
10-10-2019, 08:13 AM
Well, since they were critical and contradictory of Trump, they will probably be hailed as "Heroes of the Resistance".
The reporters need to see the inside of a courtroom, otherwise it just affirms that bullshit that Chris "Bro" Coumo was spewing about "It's okay for us reporters to see classified with out a clearance, BUT NOT YOU, Joe Citizen".
Umm, not how that works.
GardoneVT
10-10-2019, 10:32 AM
Cultivating sources and developing stories is a reporters job. As is that of a foreign intelligence agent.
We can’t fault either for tapping a source with classified information to trade.
We can fault the jackass who opened his mouth/files/computer drive when he shouldn’t have. The DIA analyst deserves a big stay in a small cell. The reporter deserves a promotion.
wvincent
10-10-2019, 11:02 AM
Cultivating sources and developing stories is a reporters job. As is that of a foreign intelligence agent.
We can’t fault either for tapping a source with classified information to trade.
We can fault the jackass who opened his mouth/files/computer drive when he shouldn’t have. The DIA analyst deserves a big stay in a small cell. The reporter deserves a promotion.
Umm, Fuck No.
You apparently never had a TS, nor went through the associated training concerning classified intelligence. If you did have a TS with that type of mindset you are displaying, then it should have been revoked.
Knowingly receiving and disseminating classified intelligence, while not an authorized recipient, needs to have some severe repercussions.
Cultivating sources and developing stories is a reporters job. As is that of a foreign intelligence agent.
We can’t fault either for tapping a source with classified information to trade.
We can fault the jackass who opened his mouth/files/computer drive when he shouldn’t have. The DIA analyst deserves a big stay in a small cell. The reporter deserves a promotion.
43501
Knowingly soliciting classified information without appropriate clearance and need to know is a crime, regardless of who solicits it.
She deserves the same sentence as the DIA guy.
LittleLebowski
10-10-2019, 11:20 AM
I still can't get over how stupid and avoidable this was. Not to mention how easy this was for the investigators.
GardoneVT
10-10-2019, 12:40 PM
Umm, Fuck No.
You apparently never had a TS, nor went through the associated training concerning classified intelligence. If you did have a TS with that type of mindset you are displaying, then it should have been revoked.
Knowingly receiving and disseminating classified intelligence, while not an authorized recipient, needs to have some severe repercussions.
You’re right. I’ve never held a TS or compartmentalized super ninja clearance. With your bruised ego mended, we can return to the subject at hand. Which is that the DIA jackass should have kept his mouth shut. The end.
There’d be no question of the reporters culpability in soliciting, receiving, distributing, transmitting, reading, or interacting with the classified data if she never got it in the first place.
RevolverRob
10-10-2019, 01:00 PM
I'll be stunned if it turns out they were not having a sexual relationship. What else motivates a man to divulge classified state secrets? Worst of all...she's not that hot, but I guess neckbeards don't win a lot of prizes.
Seriously, make a mental note. If you're going to got rolled up in a honey pot, make sure she is a 12 outta 10 on the scale. You might as well at least have fond memories while you sit in the Graybar Inn.
You’re right. I’ve never held a TS or compartmentalized super ninja clearance. With your bruised ego mended, we can return to the subject at hand. Which is that the DIA jackass should have kept his mouth shut. The end.
There’d be no question of the reporters culpability in soliciting, receiving, distributing, transmitting, reading, or interacting with the classified data if she never got it in the first place.
There would be no question of the reporters culpability had she not tried to gain access to information she had no legal right to access. Works both ways unfortunately.
They are both guilty of breaking various laws. Him for divulging info that shouldn’t have been. Her for asking for and publishing it. We can, and SHOULD, fault them for their criminal acts.
It’s been decades since I’ve been involved with sensitive info, but it was pretty clear that what I knew needed to stay with me, if anyone tried to get that info from me I needed to tell someone and just as importantly, I shouldn’t be asking for stuff I had no valid reason to know. Not rocket surgery.
They both need to fry to the fullest extent of the law.
LSP552
10-10-2019, 01:08 PM
They both need to see prison but she will probably skate. Clearly, he is too stupid to have a clearance anyway.
wvincent
10-10-2019, 01:28 PM
You’re right. I’ve never held a TS or compartmentalized super ninja clearance. With your bruised ego mended, we can return to the subject at hand. Which is that the DIA jackass should have kept his mouth shut. The end.
There’d be no question of the reporters culpability in soliciting, receiving, distributing, transmitting, reading, or interacting with the classified data if she never got it in the first place.
Nothing to do with ego, bruised or otherwise.
Your statement of basically saying pound the DIA dude, buuuut, reporters gonna report ("should get a promotion") is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have seen posted this week.
In your first post you pretty much give her a pass for disseminating the classified info, and your second post you say she is culpable?
Which is it?
GardoneVT
10-10-2019, 02:09 PM
Nothing to do with ego, bruised or otherwise.
Your statement of basically saying pound the DIA dude, buuuut, reporters gonna report ("should get a promotion") is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have seen posted this week.
In your first post you pretty much give her a pass for disseminating the classified info, and your second post you say she is culpable?
Which is it?
Let us review the job description of a reporter. Courtesy TalentLyft.com;
They create stories and breaking news through different channels such as radio, television, online news sites, and printed newspapers and magazines.
Looks like she did her job and then some.
Insofar as her culpability in soliciting or handling classified information,I’ll restate my post from earlier- if the DIA guy kept his mouth (and perhaps his fly) shut there’d be no story. He’s the source of the problem and should be treated accordingly.
Wingate's Hairbrush
10-10-2019, 02:57 PM
...There’d be no question of the reporters culpability in soliciting, receiving, distributing, transmitting, reading, or interacting with the classified data if she never got it in the first place.Politely, you're mistaken in this and several other comments regarding the journalistic angle here; the attempt to solicit classified information is illegal and journalists do not have professional or legal protections for it, nor for any behavior that breaks the law or encourages or directs others to do so.
Receiving, handling and publishing unsolicited material is a separate matter much more protected by legal precedent, but if it is proven that she actively targeted for and coordinated a leak that's an entirely different category of behavior and she's as much a criminal as he is and no credible news organization would stand by her actions.
Poconnor
10-10-2019, 02:58 PM
I thought reporters were supposed to verify the truth and source of their information. If she was getting information from only one source shouldn’t she have questioned why?
Wingate's Hairbrush
10-10-2019, 03:05 PM
I thought reporters were supposed to verify the truth and source of their information. If she was getting information from only one source shouldn’t she have questioned why?What is being reported is that she (reporter) and he (counterterrorism analyst) were romantically involved, and he provided her classified information at her request for articles she was actively writing.
Total fuck-ups, both of them.
wvincent
10-10-2019, 03:29 PM
What is being reported is that she (reporter) and he (counterterrorism analyst) were romantically involved, and he provided her classified information at her request for articles she was actively writing.
Total criminals, both of them.
Great post, fixed that one niggling detail though:cool:
Umm, Fuck No.
You apparently never had a TS, nor went through the associated training concerning classified intelligence. If you did have a TS with that type of mindset you are displaying, then it should have been revoked.
Knowingly receiving and disseminating classified intelligence, while not an authorized recipient, needs to have some severe repercussions.
What he said.
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Politely, you're mistaken in this and several other comments regarding the journalistic angle here; the attempt to solicit classified information is illegal and journalists do not have professional or legal protections for it, nor for any behavior that breaks the law or encourages or directs others to do so.
Receiving, handling and publishing unsolicited material is a separate matter much more protected by legal precedent, but if it is proven that she actively targeted for and coordinated a leak that's an entirely different category of behavior and she's as much a criminal as he is and no credible news organization would stand by her actions.
What he said also.
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RevolverRob
10-10-2019, 03:36 PM
What is being reported is that she (reporter) and he (counterterrorism analyst) were romantically involved, and he provided her classified information at her request for articles she was actively writing.
Total fuck-ups, both of them.
:rolleyes: <-My shocked face.
Seriously, don’t divulge state secrets to anyone. But if you are gonna get caught up in a honeypot - 12 outta 10. It won’t help you in court, but at least the public will be like, “Yea...I guess I can see how he got rolled up in the honeypot.”
GardoneVT
10-10-2019, 06:37 PM
What is being reported is that she (reporter) and he (counterterrorism analyst) were romantically involved, and he provided her classified information at her request for articles she was actively writing.
Total fuck-ups, both of them.
If the facts support the conclusion she sought classified information he then provided at her request, then they both deserve basement suites in a Federal prison.
UNM1136
10-10-2019, 06:51 PM
My mom took her clearance rather seriously. She worked for an intelligence agency no one has heard of. When I went to the office to take her to lunch I had to sign in, be escorted everywhere, with an escort carrying a strobe light and shouting "uncleared" as we walked through the halls so people could cover things on thier desks as we walked through the hallway...
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