DPM or other recoil reduction system

[zaitcev]

I'm thinking about using DPM recoil reduction system on Walther Q5 Match (not SF). So, I have 2 questions:

- Does it actually reduce the recoil?

- What are competing systems that do the same thing?

[Clusterfrack]

I wouldn’t bother. No one I know who has tried those type of things is still using them.

Also I don’t like the way they change the timing of the recoil cycle.

[Simong]

I got an original Walther Tungsten Guide-rod in my PPQ, and the only thing it reduced is $140 from my pocket.

Practice how to grip the gun right, it will have a much better effect on your recoil reduction control.

But hey if you got money to spend why not go for it...

Simong.

[Saur]

Reminds me of the USP's recoil assembly w/ a buffer spring and a recoil spring. But they got a third spring inside too? I wonder if it increases longevity, reduces felt recoil in the hand, or makes the recoil figure-8 instead of up 'n down :confused:

[MattyD380]

I had considered one of these for my p245–for which recoil springs are no longer made, I hear.

[HCM]

I'm thinking about using DPM recoil reduction system on Walther Q5 Match (not SF). So, I have 2 questions:

- Does it actually reduce the recoil?

- What are competing systems that do the same thing?


I wouldn’t bother. No one I know who has tried those type of things is still using them.

Also I don’t like the way they change the timing of the recoil cycle.

I agree they are a gimmick.

If you want to try something like this have you looked at Sprinco ? They are based in Austin.

https://www.sprinco.com/recoil.html

[Clusterfrack]

How about this: buy a series of spring weights from Wolff or other vendor and experiment with how they work for you.

You can learn a lot by doing this. As well, your technique and skill will affect which spring weight works best.

I used to prefer springs on the lighter side but now run fairly heavy ones.

[Simong]

I used to prefer springs on the lighter side but now run fairly heavy ones.

Can you please elaborate to why?

I did change the trigger and springs on my PPQ with Apex trigger and 2 Sprinco springs, I'm very happy with the outcome.

Now in regard to the heavier Tungsten or SS Rod I personally see 0 change in recoil reduction with it, for front heavy gun I have the Olight PL Mini-2.

Simong.

[Clusterfrack]

This USPSA season I did a deep dive into recoil management, and trying to reduce the amount of time I need to invest in aiming/confirming. I discovered that a 10-11# spring felt “softer” but resulted in more sight lift and took longer to return. With a 14# spring, I’ve been shooting 0.14-0.15 splits, and have a very predictable and tight sight cycle. (This is with Shadow2s). The heavy springs require more control of the dip following slide return though.


Can you please elaborate to why?

I did change the trigger and springs on my PPQ with Apex trigger and 2 Sprinco springs, I'm very happy with the outcome.

Now in regard to the heavier Tungsten or SS Rod I personally see 0 change in recoil reduction with it, for front heavy gun I have the Olight PL Mini-2.

Simong.

[45dotACP]

How about this: buy a series of spring weights from Wolff or other vendor and experiment with how they work for you.

You can learn a lot by doing this. As well, your technique and skill will affect which spring weight works best.

I used to prefer springs on the lighter side but now run fairly heavy ones.I've not quite done the exact same, but I found that going from a 16lb recoil spring to an 18lb recoil spring in my .45 caliber 1911 was profoundly better for my splits/speed, in spite of a lot of shooters preferring to run a lighter spring.

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[Simong]

I would have to take a deeper look into my Shadow-2 and find out for myself.

Thanks for the info.

Simong.

[zaitcev]

I see that I might have withheld a key piece of information and people started to make assumptions about the usage of the gun. But I don't care about the splits or returning the gun into the sight box. The Q5 is my wife's gun and her hands hurt from shooting it.

[TicTacticalTimmy]

I see that I might have withheld a key piece of information and people started to make assumptions about the usage of the gun. But I don't care about the splits or returning the gun into the sight box. The Q5 is my wife's gun and her hands hurt from shooting it.


I'm almost certain that no gizmo is going to make enough of a difference for her to go from "this hurts" all the way to "I enjoy shooting." The Q5 match I played with was as soft shooting a polymer gun as any others I have shot.

IMO you have 3 options:
1. Switch to a steel pistol or a 22lr

2. Teach her how to grip better, or do grip exercises to increase strength

3. She can get comfortable with being uncomfortable and accept that pain as being a fair price to pay for getting some time in at the range

2 and 3 are only going to happen if your wife really wants to get better at and/or enjoy handgun shooting.

[AdioSS]

A cheap fix could be a set of those stick-on rubber grips.

Or for longer range sessions she could wear padded shooting gloves.

The Match’s slide is ported, so maybe have ports cut into the barrel?

[Clusterfrack]

I see that I might have withheld a key piece of information and people started to make assumptions about the usage of the gun. But I don't care about the splits or returning the gun into the sight box. The Q5 is my wife's gun and her hands hurt from shooting it.

Ok. Here are some thoughts:

Use low power ammo. If you reload, this is easy.

The fancy RSA might spread out the recoil impulse, but I don’t think it’s a major reduction.

I find that the Q5 has a sharp trigger guard edge that hurts my hands. Where does it bother her? If it’s a specific small area, that’s the problem.

Add a sticky rubber decal. Friction is a good thing for gripping.

Work on her grip. This is almost certainly the biggest issue. High speed video her hands if you have an iPhone.

[earlan357]

Anything that can help make the experience more enjoyable is a win in my book. It may be a crutch for learning proper grip, but have you considered adding weight under the rail? You could even go so far as to gut a cheap knockoff/airsoft weaponlight and fill it with tungsten. My wife is still pretty recoil sensitive and didn't even like shooting my M&P .22 until I added my x300 and doubled up her earpro. She'll shoot larger calibers now but prefers them with a suppressor.

[Whirlwind06]

When I first started shooting my Glock 41, the recoil seemed harsh. My hands would a bit sore after a range trip.
I bought a cheap WML and melted lead into the WML giving me ~4 oz of extra weight. I also got a weighted grip plug.
Since this is a range gun (so far) I have also been working on creating reduced power loads.

It seems much better now, I'm sure that some of that is me getting used to the recoil pulse.
And some of it is probably a placebo effect as well. But adding 5.5 oz to the weight of the gun has to help some.