How to turn your Nano into an APX carry.

[5pins]

Keep sending it back to the factory for repairs until they send you an APX.


I sent my Nano back, because it was having the failure to extract issue, for the second time two weeks ago and today UPS dropped off a new APX carry.



https://i.imgur.com/cI0rFMGl.jpg

[claymore504]

Let us know how you like it. I keep hearing it is just a Nano labeled APX and some say it is a totally different pistol. What do you think?

[LockedBreech]

Keep sending it back to the factory for repairs until they send you an APX.


I sent my Nano back, because it was having the failure to extract issue, for the second time two weeks ago and today UPS dropped off a new APX carry.



https://i.imgur.com/cI0rFMGl.jpg

I have to hand it to Beretta, that's pretty impressive customer service. And frankly if they'd sent you a pack of throwing knives probably an upgrade over the Nano.

[5pins]

Let us know how you like it. I keep hearing it is just a Nano labeled APX and some say it is a totally different pistol. What do you think?

First thing I noticed was the grip was bigger and felt much better in my hand and it feels like I can get a higher grip. The texturing was very good and very similar to the Glock RTF. The trigger was also much improved over the Nano although it appears to be the same design but with a trigger lever safety. The sights are just a little larger with a front white dot and black serrated rear. They appear to be interchangeable with the Nano so it's posable that aftermarket sights for the Nano will work. In fact, it seems like just about everything will interchange including the magazines.
So similar, in fact, I have to wonder if it will have the same problem with the failure to extract issue like the Nano.
Tomorrow I plan to put some round through it and let everyone know how it goes.

[5pins]

I have to hand it to Beretta, that's pretty impressive customer service. And frankly if they'd sent you a pack of throwing knives probably an upgrade over the Nano.

I was very happy that Beretta replaced it. I did request they do that in the letter that I sent with the pistol. I find it interesting they replaced it with an APX and not another Nano. This seems to confirm my suspicion that Beretta has stopped production of the Nano in favor of the APX.

[MGW]

$250 for an APX Carry sounds like a pretty good deal.

[10mmfanboy]

You can't beat that deal! Bravo to Beretta, that's how you keep customers. I'm still waiting for my original xc1 light to break because everyone says they get a xc1-B back, Heck I'd be happy with a xc1-A !

[fixer]

Great customer service.

But that is a heck of a statement on the nano though.

[Hambo]

I have to hand it to Beretta, that's pretty impressive customer service. And frankly if they'd sent you a pack of throwing knives probably an upgrade over the Nano.

Hilarious, but true.

[5pins]

Just went and put the first rounds through it. I would have been better off with the knives.

More on it later.

[5pins]

They say a picture is worth a thousand words so here are five thousand words. Speer 124gr +P Gold Dots. First Fail to eject at round 8. I stopped trying at 45 rounds.

https://i.imgur.com/fMc6nEGl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zha3kfLl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/smMxO6Hl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zbw5Wtcl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BaKsbkYl.jpg

[GJM]

Another Glock killer bites the dust....

[LockedBreech]

Oh Beretta. Your full-size guns are some of the best in the world. Your compact guns are superb. Why can't you make a subcompact worth a damn?

Being a Beretta fanboy is like being in love with a really hot awesome rich girl with one super yellow tooth you can't stop staring at.

[Doc_Glock]

Just needs break in.













Kidding.

[Bucky]

I sent my Nano back, because it was having the failure to extract issue, for the second time two weeks ago and today UPS dropped off a new APX carry.


“UPS dropped it off”: did they use the same SN chassis, or did they drop it off at an FFL?

[5pins]

“UPS dropped it off”: did they use the same SN chassis, or did they drop it off at an FFL?

They dropped it off to my house, I did have to sign for it. New gun with new SN.

[Hambo]

They say a picture is worth a thousand words so here are five thousand words. Speer 124gr +P Gold Dots. First Fail to eject at round 8. I stopped trying at 45 rounds.


Those pics are a malfunction tutorial.

[fixer]

That is horrendous.

A pattern I've noticed being a Beretta guy for most of my life:

When Beretta knocks it out of the park, they really knock it out of the park.

When they mess up, they really mess up.

No in between.


In terms of these pictures, if its any consolation:

Is that extractor even trying?

Could be over-sprung recoil spring

Extractor tension could be off--too loose, too tight

possible magazine issue, although the above is more likely.

[5pins]

I decided to try some different ammo today and I'm having better results. More on it later.

[JodyH]

I've never been impressed with Beretta polymer/striker pistols.
With their long, successful history of hammer fired aluminum framed pistols they should stick to what they know.

[okie john]

I decided to try some different ammo today and I'm having better results. More on it later.

This is good news.

I liked the M9 that I was issued. I really want Beretta to get this right.


Okie John

[LockedBreech]

A pattern I've noticed being a Beretta guy for most of my life:

When Beretta knocks it out of the park, they really knock it out of the park.

When they mess up, they really mess up.

No in between.



This is incredibly true. The same company made the 9000S and the 92 Elite II. Let that sink in.

[5pins]

I decided last night that maybe I should try some other ammo in the Pistol before condemning it. So this morning I grabbed a box of Winchester 147gr Ranger and began shooting. To my surprise, it went through the entire box of 50 without any failers except a failure to feed. The failers to feed have all be from the extra Nano mag I had so I decided to stop using it.

So I came up with a plan. I would take all of the 9mm ammo I have leftover from my gel test and shoot 15 rounds of each type. 15 rounds would give me one 6 round and one 8 round magazine and one round in the chamber. I would start with a loaded gun with 7 rounds and fire until slide lock and reload with an 8 round magazine.

So far I have gotten about halfway through the stash and hope to finish up tomorrow.

[claymore504]

Isolating it to a mag from another gun really shines light on this. Thanks for the update.

[e_stern]

If this doesn’t resolve, please let me know.

As I’ve said on several media venues, the Nano mag is best for FMJ range Ammo. We significantly improved the mag for APX Carry.

Nano mags DO work in the Carry, but they are substantially different.

[Sal Picante]

Oh Beretta. Your full-size guns are some of the best in the world. Your compact guns are superb. Why can't you make a subcompact worth a damn?

Being a Beretta fanboy is like being in love with a really hot awesome rich girl with one super yellow tooth you can't stop staring at.

Whoa whoa whoa... the bobcat and tomcat guns are pretty handy!

:)

(And the tooth isn't yellow, it's just carbonara sauce... it sticks a bit...)

[BigT]

In my experience with some of the other pocket 9mm's +P stuff does seem to be running very close to the edge of reliable function. Pretty high slide velocities are getting increased even more.

I think GJM is on the right path with the 115gr Gold Dot in these kinds of pistols. Weve seen good reliability with the critical defense too

[5pins]

I put a little over 500 rounds through it and only had a malfunction with Winchester Ranger T 127gr +P+ and one light primer strike with the new Winchester military 115gr flat point.

https://i.imgur.com/SxpfyA8l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KNVyF48l.jpg

Here is a list of what I tried.

Speer 115gr Gold Dot +P+
Winchester 127gr Ranger T +P+
Remington 147gr JHP
Federal 147gr HST +P
Federal 147gr HST standard
Federal 124gr HST standard
Federal 124gr HST +P
Winchester military 115gr
Federal 124gr Hydra-Shok
Barnes 115gr TAC-XPD +P
Federal 115gr Train and Defend
Hornady 147gr XTP
Winchester 124gr military ball
Magtech 147gr JHP
Speer 147gr Gold Dot G2
Remington 124gr Golden Saber
Fiocchi 115gr JHP
Federal 135gr tactical +P
Speer 147gr Gold Dot
Winchester 115gr JHP
Remington 147gr Golden Saber
Federal 147gr JHP
Federal 115gr JHP (XM9001)
Speer 124gr Gold Dot standard
Hornady 135gr Critical Defence +P

After all that I tried one more box of Speer 124gr +p and had another fail to extract. So it would seem this pistol has a definite dislike for them.

https://i.imgur.com/SjowoPhl.jpg

I then gave the gun a very deep cleaning using an ultrasonic cleaner. After lubricating and reassembly I noticed that the recoil spring was sticking out of the front of the slide. No matter how many times I disassembled and reassembled I could not get the spring to seat correctly.

https://i.imgur.com/RhlfDDcl.jpg

Another issue was the disassembly pin. The pistol came this but I chose to not worry about it at the moment. The pin was not flush with the side of the frame. If I removed the o-ring it would fit normally but not with it in. It also prevented the pin form "auto-locking" at reassembly.
So, I guess it's one more trip to the factory.

https://i.imgur.com/IiXglHQl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RfPdZapl.jpg

[gato naranja]

Well, it is not exactly turning a Nano into an APX Carry, but the APX Carry's grip frame is light years more useful than the Nano's, even allowing for the hideous squared triggerguard.

A little careful sanding of the protrusion at the bottom of the APX Carry grip reduced it to being perfectly flush with the minimalist Nano magazine baseplate, and the result has allowed the Orange Cat to stop thinking he has to give the Nano a "death grip." This particular Nano has been vetted for quite a while, and it functioned perfectly in its post-operative outing.

I call it the NanX.

GN

[LangdonTactical]

I find this very interesting. We now have 6 of the APX Carry pistols here that we have been testing for about 5 or 6 months. So far they have all been flawless, but I have not shot any 124 +p through any of them. Ball ammo, 115 and 124 and quite a bit of 147 HST and 147 Gold Dot.

I don't have any "old Nano" mags, only APX Carry mags.

For me, it fills the nitch of a single stack 7 round J-frame. Double action every time, hammerless, very small and really light.

I will be interested to see how this shakes out as if they do not run, I am not interested.

[Beretta1526]

I find this very interesting. We now have 6 of the APX Carry pistols here that we have been testing for about 5 or 6 months. So far they have all been flawless, but I have not shot any 124 +p through any of them. Ball ammo, 115 and 124 and quite a bit of 147 HST and 147 Gold Dot.

I don't have any "old Nano" mags, only APX Carry mags.

For me, it fills the nitch of a single stack 7 round J-frame. Double action every time, hammerless, very small and really light.

I will be interested to see how this shakes out as if they do not run, I am not interested.

While I haven't had an issue with it, I have noticed that the Nano mags don't run as well as the APX Carry mags do. The ever-so-slight changes* Beretta made to the mags make a difference. I hadn't though to ask, but were the issues with the APX Carry with the new mags, or the Nano mags?

* - Nano vs APX Teardown Thread - Magazines (https://berettaforum.net/vb/showthread.php?p=1386022&postcount=3)

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[Doc_Glock]

For me, it fills the nitch of a single stack 7 round J-frame. Double action every time, hammerless, very small and really light.

Bold emphasis mine. This is not a pre cocked striker fired action? How did I not know that?

[5pins]

Beretta received it two week ago. I will let you guys know what they did when it comes back.

[10mmfanboy]

Probably quiet design changes by the looks of things. Very disappointing to see. How are the larger apx series doing in reliability?

[Old Virginia]

Well, it is not exactly turning a Nano into an APX Carry, but the APX Carry's grip frame is light years more useful than the Nano's, even allowing for the hideous squared triggerguard.

A little careful sanding of the protrusion at the bottom of the APX Carry grip reduced it to being perfectly flush with the minimalist Nano magazine baseplate, and the result has allowed the Orange Cat to stop thinking he has to give the Nano a "death grip." This particular Nano has been vetted for quite a while, and it functioned perfectly in its post-operative outing.

I call it the NanX.

GN

Like the name NanX. And more than appropriate. I will respectfully disagree with your quote "that the APX grip frame is light years more useful than the Nano's. As you know, I like both and have not decided which one I like the most as I have posted before on another forum. The Nano is more like a 1911 style grip which many folks love. Fortunately I have the Nano and a Nano with the APX frame and most likely will keep them that way. I shoot both of them fine. I also took notice that you had to have a feeling of a" Death Grip on the Nano." On the contray for myself. I found out that tight grip on the Nano grip was not only not necessary, but actually a unproductive grip where just a FIRM grip performed much better.
Since I have shot the APX, and one Nano with over 10,000 rds, I am staying with the Nano and the New APX grip. (NanX)
Beside the fact that I do not want a Slide Stop, with over a dozen mags Nano Mags, that by they way run just fine in the APX Grip, to purchase the APX would just do nothing for me at this point. And the Nano now on sale at Buds for only $199.00 seems like one of the best deals going on in the gun world. Especially since the APX grip fits the Nano just fine. And the fact that you can simply add a APX grip for $35.00 makes it the best of both worlds.

NanX on the Left New Nano on Right

http://i.imgur.com/sah6OpU.jpg?3 (https://imgur.com/sah6OpU)

By the way, I still cannot stand the APX trigger guard. However I did find one Holster that does fit it. A Desantis.

https://i.imgur.com/XdM5ejH.jpg?1

[5pins]

UPS just dropped it off. It looks like they replaced the disassembly pin and recoil spring. No letter telling me what was done like last time. Other than that it appears to be the same.

[Old Virginia]

Oh Beretta. Your full-size guns are some of the best in the world. Your compact guns are superb. Why can't you make a subcompact worth a damn?

Being a Beretta fanboy is like being in love with a really hot awesome rich girl with one super yellow tooth you can't stop staring at.

Lol, my awesome rich girl has perfect teeth. First Nano I bought and still shoot went over the 10,000 mark in Sept. Later bought two more (running great from the start just like the original).Yes, I did put the APX grip on one of the Nano's and ran them side by side for a few months and about a 1,000 rds. Came home yesterday after shooting both and put the Nano grip back on. Yes, I like it better. But each person now can choose what grip he likes. Yes, I obviously am a fanboy. The Nano has given me more than 10,000 reasons to make me one. Bravo to Beretta. Personally think this firearm is about as solid a build quality of any I have seen. Not many parts and one heck of a robust build. Break one down compare any gun to one. I would be happy to put the Nano/ Apx carry sub-compact up against any Micro 9mm out there.
Bravo to Beretta.

https://i.imgur.com/tQhZZyy.jpg?1

[Tokarev]

https://www.sigsauer.com/products/firearms/pistols/p365/

[emoji16]

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[5pins]

I never did update this thread but I put the APX in the safe and haven't shot it. Probably won't.

[Old Virginia]

https://www.sigsauer.com/products/firearms/pistols/p365/

[emoji16]

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Thanks for the link. But fairly familiar with the 365. Spent some time with 4 others testing the Sig. We put a 1,000 rds through one about 4-5 months ago.

[Tokarev]

Thanks for the link. But fairly familiar with the 365. Spent some time with 4 others testing the Sig. We put a 1,000 rds through one about 4-5 months ago.That was more to poke my friend 5 Pins than to make a sales recommendation to you.

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[5pins]

https://www.sigsauer.com/products/firearms/pistols/p365/

[emoji16]

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I think I will stick with my Shiled.

[Old Virginia]

I put a little over 500 rounds through it and only had a malfunction with Winchester Ranger T 127gr +P+ and one light primer strike with the new Winchester military 115gr flat point.





I then gave the gun a very deep cleaning using an ultrasonic cleaner. After lubricating and reassembly I noticed that the recoil spring was sticking out of the front of the slide. No matter how many times I disassembled and reassembled I could not get the spring to seat correctly.

https://i.imgur.com/RhlfDDcl.jpg

Another issue was the disassembly pin. The pistol came this but I chose to not worry about it at the moment. The pin was not flush with the side of the frame. If I removed the o-ring it would fit normally but not with it in. It also prevented the pin form "auto-locking" at reassembly.
So, I guess it's one more trip to the factory.

https://i.imgur.com/IiXglHQl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RfPdZapl.jpg

The recoil spring sticking out is a simple fix. Simply push the o ring in with your finger to let the slide pass. I suspect heat from the sonic cleaner swelled the rubber o ring. Or it simply just needed a push. I am surprised that Beretta did not point this out rather than have the gun sent in. I bought a spare o ring when I first read this on another forum. But that just sits in the package, no need to replace. I find gun forums interesting. Before I even bought the Nano, I heard from the internet that it did not like 115 gr ammo. Yes, when I first picked up the Nano, I took it to the range with nothing but cheap 115 gr ammo and it ran flawlessly. Actually used a bucket of 115 gr Remington and some cheap bulk reloads.
I see your post about the Speer Plus P. While I have tried with perfect results other Plus P ammo, I will try and order the Speer just to see how well it shoots. I also have different recoil spring weights from Gallaway I want to try out.

Changing grips or taking the chassis out is easy. Have done it so many times. First time, might cause a error in insertion. Basically the Pico is the same way. I did make a mistake my first time changing the grip. The trigger would not function properly. The sent it back and told me it was inserted wrong. I then just looked at it and saw the error of my ways.
By the way, that is the only time I have ever used Beretta customer service. Never once needed it for the Nano's nor three Pico's. And one of the Pico's has more rounds through it than a popular Pocket pistol I owned. Or should I say has out lasted Four of them.
I do not own any other Beretta's but if the Nano, the Carry and the Pico are any testament to the quality of the PX4 Compact than that will be my next purchase.

[Old Virginia]

Just got back from the range today. Brought along the box of 50 rds of the Gold Dot Plus P 124gr.
First up was the Nano with the APX grip and a Galloway 16lb recoil spring that has been due for a change out. Shot 25rds and that were flawless.
Next up the Newer Nano with stock Nano Grip, and a Galloway 20lb recoil spring 25 rds. Flawless.

I see no reason why the New APX Carry will not shoot this ammo as well as the Nano. Have to say these guns seem to like the 20lb recoil spring.
Man these are mild shooting guns.
Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain +P Jacketed Hollow Point