Robar Closing???

[talos]

I got a vmail from Freddie Blisch that they were closing up shop and he would need to return my gun unfinished. They've done great work for me for over a decade. This is horrible news. Nothing posted on their website. I have heard Freddie on some podcasts recently talking about the gun industry being down the last couple years and they raised their prices this year quite a bit to include a 3% CC fee so I'm guessing they just couldn't make ends meet.

I love NP3 and don't know what I will do going forward on my new guns.

[Poconnor]

I really hope he changes his mind. I have a few guns I want refinished in NP3

[TGS]

Lack of business certainly can't be a reason they're closing shop. They took about 7 months to do one of my guns last year.

[RevolverRob]

Lack of business certainly can't be a reason they're closing shop. They took about 7 months to do one of my guns last year.

Maybe that’s part of the problem. Refinishing is really a volume business.

I hope this isn’t true, but it wouldn’t surprise me. The reality is - lots of factory finishes these days are very good, negating the need to refinish a firearm. Couple that with the growth of cheap ass Cerakoting...it’s not good news.

[Mike C]

Damn it this day keeps getting worse. The last two guns I had done were superb. Anyone have good alternative recommendations then? I wanted to get a few bolts coated and two pistols refinished. The bolts need something NP3'ish since they get nasty suppressed and it makes things so much easier to clean.

[camsdaddy]

To suddenly return guns unfinished seems strange

[TGS]

Damn it this day keeps getting worse. The last two guns I had done were superb. Anyone have good alternative recommendations then? I wanted to get a few bolts coated and two pistols refinished. The bolts need something NP3'ish since they get nasty suppressed and it makes things so much easier to clean.

Piggy-backing on Mike C, I'd like some recommendations for PVD/DLC vendors...

[talos]

To suddenly return guns unfinished seems strange

Especially since it appears their industrial coating business, which is in the same physical location, will continue forward. They do a lot of aerospace stuff. And the info I saw makes it sound like they may continue to do volume contracts for gun companies just not taking in individual guns.

I really like Freddie and will give him the benefit of the doubt but the decision not to complete the existing work, when your company will keep going, seems really weird.

[Mike C]

Especially since it appears their industrial coating business, which is in the same physical location, will continue forward. They do a lot of aerospace stuff. And the info I saw makes it sound like they may continue to do volume contracts for gun companies just not taking in individual guns.

I really like Freddie and will give him the benefit of the doubt but the decision not to complete the existing work, when your company will keep going, seems really weird.

I just spoke to Sionics by phone as I was looking for a complete BCG that I can drop in to a Colt I have that lives suppressed. The rep said the exact same thing, well paraphrasing but the industrial side of the house will remain operating it is Robar that will close. He said he believed that they will be able to continue to offer parts with NP3. I am really sad to hear this. I'd rather have my original parts coated than drop in something from another MFG though Sionics seems to have a great rep I would prefer to keep the guns internals stock.

[wrmettler]

Robar neither owned or was the licensee for any coating product. It purchased all coating including NP3 from Coating Technologies, which operates at the same address. Coating Technologies continues to do business. Robbie Barrkman started Robar and sold it to Blish. Barrkman started and continues to own Coating Technologies. The companies are two separate business entities.
I assume Coating Technologies will continue to sell coating to gunsmith businesses, but I do not know.

Its website is : coatingtechnologiesllc.com

[RevolverRob]

I have been told a couple of times that Jabuie is basically the company that handles DLC coating for a number of custom gunsmiths - http://www.jabuie.com/ionbond.html

[SteveB]

There are nickel/Teflon finishes other than NP3; this 1911, done by Jojo’s Gunworks, is coated with a finish called Slick Shot. While it is a little more gray and NP3 is a little more silver, I’ve had guns done in both and they are similar in durability and lubricity.

www.jojosgunworks.com

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[Artemas2]

https://www.alloutdoor.com/2019/08/30/robar-companies-inc-officially-business/

Today is the last day that we will be in business. When we put that notification up on the website, we had high hopes of someone either purchasing or investing in the company, but it fell through.

-Tyler

well this sucks

[Yung]

I wonder how much We Plead the 2nd over in Tempe was in competition with them.

[nycnoob]

There are nickel/Teflon finishes other than NP3; this 1911, done by Jojo’s Gunworks, is coated with a finish called Slick Shot. While it is a little more gray and NP3 is a little more silver, I’ve had guns done in both and they are similar in durability and lubricity. www.jojosgunworks.com (http://www.jojosgunworks.com)



I think this is the company that they use. There are lots of coatings that they have which could be interesting.

http://nutmegchrome.com/page/slik-shot-electroless-plated-coating


Slik Shot®, a high-end finish offered exclusively by Nutmeg Chrome, wears better and lasts longer than standard Nickel Teflon® coatings.


Nutmeg's Slik Shot® process is an electroless-plated coating of a nickel phosphorus alloy with Teflon® particles evenly dispersed throughout the coating, offering optimum performance. With Teflon® particles included as an integral part of the plating deposit, corrosion resistance and wearability are greatly enhanced.

[Balisong]

This REALLY sucks!!!! Robar is/was local to me and I enjoyed being able to drop stuff off without having to ship. Was planning on doing more business with them in the near future.

[Nephrology]

Surprised and saddened to hear this.

[WOLFIE]

Robar has coated three of my guns with NP3. This is terrible news.

[Vandal320]

Saw this on the Beretta Forums.

[CCR Refinishing]

Even though Robars NP3 is a competitor too our CPII Nickel Boron Nitride plating I hate to see any company in the firearms industry close

[nycnoob]

Even though Robars NP3 is a competitor too our CPII Nickel Boron Nitride plating I hate to see any company in the firearms industry close


Here, I am posting a link to this refinishing company so that in the future when I go looking for places to send parts I can find them in this thread. I will probably start by searching PF for the word "robar refinishing" since that will stick in my head.


http://www.ccrrefinishing.com/information.html




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Dusk will give you a Deep Rich Smokey metallic look that will vary depending on the substrant surface material. Dusk will be available on Carbon and Stainless steels only. Due to the complex Dusk process, please contact CCR for what parts can be processed.

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CPII Plating:

CPII is a true composite plating process. It is a tank based Electroless Nickel plating system that incorporates lubricating particles within the matrix of a phosphate system. Benefits include exceptionally low coefficient of friction, superior release and excellent wear resistance. CP II is perfect for applications that require lubrication, hardness and extreme durability. As wear occurs fresh particles are exposed continuing to ensure the lubricating factors though out. CPII also allows longer firing periods between cleaning and makes cleaning of your gun a breeze. CPII is a multi-facetted plating process that offers outstanding rust and corrosion protection Up to 10 times the protection of other plating. CPII is far from your standard plating it is a true composite plating process that is made possible by the breakthroughs in Nano Technology. CPII is also an Eco friendly process unlike many other plating processes. CPII is the color similar to a Bead Blasted Stainless would look CPII will be available for steels. We do not plate anodized alloys.

Parkerization:

We also offer mil spec parkerization which was a standard military finish for many years. Parkerizing or phosphate is a method of protection the surface of steel from rust and corrosion and is an effective alternative to bluing Parkerize will be a med to dark gray in color depending on the steel. We also can provide a pre dip blacking process is desired.

[psalms144.1]

I had a PM9 done by CCR in their "House Black" cerakote. It was a pretty finish, to be sure, but, durability wasn't that great. It wore off the high spots on the slide release in a hurry, and normal pocket carry resulted in several "dings" in short order.

Not saying they're not a bad company, they were easy to work with, and the price was very reasonable. It might be that Cerakote just isn't "all that."

[Spartan1980]

Piggy-backing on Mike C, I'd like some recommendations for PVD/DLC vendors...

I had great luck with Surface Solutions, Inc. I had the pvd coat every Dillon powder funnel I own. They did them all for a flat fee that was very reasonable.

https://www.tincoat.net

[OlongJohnson]

Anyone have thumbs-up or -down experience with these guys doing nickel boron? I'm thinking about it for some small action parts.

https://www.wmdguns.com/

[UNM1136]

I am just now getting to a point in my life where I can afford to have this done, and have four guns that I was planning on sending there after the first of the year for NP3. I actually have money set aside for a couple of their Glock OEM trigger groups with NP3 on the metal parts. After a rather interesting broken Glock last week I decided that all moving metal parts in the fire control group need to be NP3"d if any of them are.

NP3 strikers are available from Suarez....
NP3 striker safety plungers are available from Suarez and Overwatch Precision....
NP3 trigger bars are available from Suarez and Overwatch if you buy their triggers....
NP3 connectors are available from Overwatch, as long as you like them in "-" flavors...

I remember reading gun rags in high school about Robar's work, both smithing and finishing. In the late 90s and early 2000s I was hanging out with guys that had Robar stuff, and was so impressed with NP3 based on my research and experiences that all my serious guns needed that for a finish. I would have been willing to pay twice what they were asking to have my guns done. It is good to know there are alternatives.

Damn.


pat

[Mike C]

I had great luck with Surface Solutions, Inc. I had the pvd coat every Dillon powder funnel I own. They did them all for a flat fee that was very reasonable.

That is genius, I seriously don't know why I never thought about that with my powder funnels. Thanks for the idea!

[Spartan1980]

That is genius, I seriously don't know why I never thought about that with my powder funnels. Thanks for the idea!

It was actually an idea born out of necessity. I have a buddy with an automated 1050 setup specifically for 9mm brass prep. He has it decap, swage and he has a laser on it to sort out the .380. Then he wet tumbles them.

I had him do about 8000 rounds that I had on hand. Even though I use Hornady One Shot lube, and I spray them stood up in a cake pan, and I spray them at a 45 degree angle, and I spray them on 4 sides, they were sticking so bad that I thought I had a bad batch of lube. Which may be the case, he doesn't have the same issue. I was lubing way more than he is and he doesn't have the issue. I was lubing a living shit out of them and still having them stick so bad I thought I'd break my press or shell plate.

The TIN coating is a drastic help. That's the only reason I did it. Dillon makes them out of tool steel and heat treat them to the high 50's rockwell C. They actually did tell me when I called to ask. I doubt anyone is going to wear one out as they come from Dillon.

[Mike C]

It was actually an idea born out of necessity. I have a buddy with an automated 1050 setup specifically for 9mm brass prep. He has it decap, swage and he has a laser on it to sort out the .380. Then he wet tumbles them.

I had him do about 8000 rounds that I had on hand. Even though I use Hornady One Shot lube, and I spray them stood up in a cake pan, and I spray them at a 45 degree angle, and I spray them on 4 sides, they were sticking so bad that I thought I had a bad batch of lube. Which may be the case, he doesn't have the same issue. I was lubing way more than he is and he doesn't have the issue. I was lubing a living shit out of them and still having them stick so bad I thought I'd break my press or shell plate.

The TIN coating is a drastic help. That's the only reason I did it. Dillon makes them out of tool steel and heat treat them to the high 50's rockwell C. They actually did tell me when I called to ask. I doubt anyone is going to wear one out as they come from Dillon.

Not to completely detract from this thread but if I clean my cases too long using a wet process with SS pins my cases stick like a MOFO. I believe GuanoLoco or LL said they were having similar issues when brass was too clean. I've since stopped using the pins. The Tin or NP3 would probably make a real difference for me along with using the wash&wax rinse I'm now doing and might finish fixing the problem altogether. I will have to try this out. Thanks again.

[mmc45414]

It was actually an idea born out of necessity. … they were sticking so bad that I thought I had a bad batch of lube.

Not to completely detract from this thread … I will have to try this out. Thanks again.
Don't want to go completely into the weeds, but that is part of the reason I have been using the Hornady measure, more info here in another thread (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?36137-Hornady-Measure-Extra-Spring&highlight=Hornady+Measure).

[Exiledviking]

For the LEM/Match hybrid parts in my HK USP 45 Expert, would DLC be good?
Looking at coating the hammer, hammer axle, sear, trigger bar, and maybe the FPB.

[farscott]

Anyone have thumbs-up or -down experience with these guys doing nickel boron? I'm thinking about it for some small action parts.

https://www.wmdguns.com/

My experience with nickel boron is limited to a G23 slide and an AR-15 BCG. The G23 application has no issues, but the AR BCG became discolored and somewhat "tacky" to the touch. It did not clean up the way NP3-plated parts do; in fact, it was no easier to clean than the before-plating part.

[RevolverRob]

For the LEM/Match hybrid parts in my HK USP 45 Expert, would DLC be good?
Looking at coating the hammer, hammer axle, sear, trigger bar, and maybe the FPB.

DLC can be applied to polished parts and help maintain the polish, but it's not necessarily "slick" like many of the teflon impregnated finishes are, it is really just hard wearing carbon. If you're hoping that a coating may improve the trigger, it's unlikely to happen with DLC. If you just want to have high wear resistance then that is one way to go.

HK uses Melonite on most of its small parts and slides. Melonite is technically a case-hardening process (NOT a coating, PVD, refinish). Melonited parts can then be coated the standard is a black oxide to it creates high wear resistance (you probably know it best as "Tenifer"). I honestly wouldn't worry too much about HK parts "wearing out" in many respects. Melonite is an excellent hardening process and any polish that occurs can have corrosion prevented with proper maintenance and use of oils/grease/wax.

[guymontag]

I had great luck with Surface Solutions, Inc. I had the pvd coat every Dillon powder funnel I own. They did them all for a flat fee that was very reasonable.

https://www.tincoat.net

I’ll have to look into them for the chrome nitride - they state it has the best lubricity of their coatings...

[guymontag]

My experience with nickel boron is limited to a G23 slide and an AR-15 BCG. The G23 application has no issues, but the AR BCG became discolored and somewhat "tacky" to the touch. It did not clean up the way NP3-plated parts do; in fact, it was no easier to clean than the before-plating part.

This is what I’m afraid of with the nickel boron - I have an email into them regarding their EN with PTFE but the hurricane has shut them down for the moment.

[Exiledviking]

If you're hoping that a coating may improve the trigger, it's unlikely to happen with DLC.

Thank you! That's exactly what I wanted know. I'd like to have NP3 applied to those parts but since that does not appear to be possible, I am trying to find a suitable replacement.

[Balisong]

I'm really hoping some company steps in to offer services for getting guns/parts NP3'd. Seems like there's plenty of demand for it.

[TGS]

DLC can be applied to polished parts and help maintain the polish, but it's not necessarily "slick" like many of the teflon impregnated finishes are, it is really just hard wearing carbon. If you're hoping that a coating may improve the trigger, it's unlikely to happen with DLC. If you just want to have high wear resistance then that is one way to go.

HK uses Melonite on most of its small parts and slides. Melonite is technically a case-hardening process (NOT a coating, PVD, refinish). Melonited parts can then be coated the standard is a black oxide to it creates high wear resistance (you probably know it best as "Tenifer"). I honestly wouldn't worry too much about HK parts "wearing out" in many respects. Melonite is an excellent hardening process and any polish that occurs can have corrosion prevented with proper maintenance and use of oils/grease/wax.

Some clarification on the above:

Tenifer and Melonite are trademarked names for the same thing: ferritic nitrocarburization, which yeah, is essentially an advanced form of case hardening. It just uses more advanced chemicals and processes than what great-grandpappy used on his Winchester back in the 19th century when he put it in an oven with bone ash.

Black oxide is best known as bluing. It's just matte black instead of polished.

The wear resistance comes from the nitrocarburization, not the bluing. The process was invented by zee Germans looking to extend the barrel life of MG42s. The black oxide is literally just for cosmetic purposes given the steel underneath is nitrocarburized.

Very small parts are not good candidates for nitrocarbization as they become brittle, which is why HKs small action parts are only black oxided and not nitrocarb'd…..enter the history of CBP Air and Marine buying Glocks because they found their P2000s internals to be rusting.

NP3 is a very useful addition to an HK internals. Bruce Gray uses (or used?) it for a reason on HK P-series action jobs.

[RevolverRob]

Some clarification on the above:

Tenifer and Melonite are trademarked names for the same thing: ferritic nitrocarburization, which yeah, is essentially an advanced form of case hardening. It just uses more advanced chemicals and processes than what great-grandpappy used on his Winchester back in the 19th century when he put it in an oven with bone ash.

Black oxide is best known as bluing. It's just matte black instead of polished.

The wear resistance comes from the nitrocarburization, not the bluing. The process was invented by zee Germans looking to extend the barrel life of MG42s. The black oxide is literally just for cosmetic purposes given the steel underneath is nitrocarburized.

Very small parts are not good candidates for nitrocarbization as they become brittle, which is why HKs small action parts are only black oxided and not nitrocarb'd…..enter the history of CBP Air and Marine buying Glocks because they found their P2000s internals to be rusting.

NP3 is a very useful addition to an HK internals. Bruce Gray uses (or used?) it for a reason on HK P-series action jobs.

Good clarification, I didn't realize HK small parts weren't nitrocarb'ed/melonited/hardened in this way, that kind of sucks. It's not surprising I was sitting here thinking about how case hardening had to make parts more brittle.

What about Black-T? I remember when it was the new hotness and it's supposed to be fairly slick, not NP3 slick, but slicker than DLC. Though I don't think it is as hard as NP3 or DLC.

[guymontag]

I'm really hoping some company steps in to offer services for getting guns/parts NP3'd. Seems like there's plenty of demand for it.

I certainly hope so, and I have a few emails to various companies so I’ll update the threads we have if I find out any good information. Maybe worse comes to worse we could see if we could do a forum/group buy situation with a vendor with staff approval.

[Sero Sed Serio]

I certainly hope so, and I have a few emails to various companies so I’ll update the threads we have if I find out any good information. Maybe worse comes to worse we could see if we could do a forum/group buy situation with a vendor with staff approval.

I’d get in on this. I have a couple of guns that were going to go to Robar for a full treatment, but kept getting pushed to the back of the priority list because I assumed NP3 would always be there.

[TGS]

Good clarification, I didn't realize HK small parts weren't nitrocarb'ed/melonited/hardened in this way, that kind of sucks. It's not surprising I was sitting here thinking about how case hardening had to make parts more brittle.

What about Black-T? I remember when it was the new hotness and it's supposed to be fairly slick, not NP3 slick, but slicker than DLC. Though I don't think it is as hard as NP3 or DLC.

Black-T scratches fairly easily, I think. No experience, just from reading.

Personally, I'm sending one of my 2.5" Model 19s to that vendor you mentioned earlier in the thread for a matte DLC. It's been a fantastic finish for me on my G19M. I've seen a G19M go skidding across concrete and it didn't even show a mark. That shit is tough.

I've got two other retired matte Model 19s from my job, figured I should make a beater facsimile (but with a tougher finish) that I'm not afraid to shoot a lot.....the 4th 2.5" Model 19 being in NP3 inside and out. Might be worth noting, but the trigger job on the NP3'd Model 19 is noticeably better than the trigger job (from the same 'smith, Sandy Garrett at NoVA Gun Works) on the carbon steel/blued Model 19.

[RevolverRob]

Black-T scratches fairly easily, I think. No experience, just from reading.

Personally, I'm sending one of my 2.5" Model 19s to that vendor you mentioned earlier in the thread for a matte DLC. It's been a fantastic finish for me on my G19M. I've seen a G19M go skidding across concrete and it didn't even show a mark. That shit is tough.

I've got two other retired matte Model 19s from my job, figured I should make a beater facsimile (but with a tougher finish) that I'm not afraid to shoot a lot.....the 4th 2.5" Model 19 being in NP3 inside and out. Might be worth noting, but the trigger job on the NP3'd Model 19 is noticeably better than the trigger job (from the same 'smith, Sandy Garrett at NoVA Gun Works) on the carbon steel/blued Model 19.

DLC is legitimately my favorite finish on the planet. It is absolutely hardcore. If it were a little "slicker" it would be an ideal alternative to NP3 that is in black, but it just isn't, alas.

That said, I'd love to hear how it goes with Jabuie on DLCing your M19. I am thinking about sending them my STI here in the next 8-10 months.

[Poconnor]

I was just looking at Robar’s website. It looks like they are still in business just not doing any finish work or gunsmithing. I hope they change their mind. I have least 6 guns I wanted NP3d

[FredWyn]

Thanks for this thread, I was concerned about the closing of ROBAR and found this statement from CT to be very informative and helpful:

Robar Closure

ATTENTION GUN OWNERS:

With the closing of the Robar Companies the question of accessing NP3©, NP3+© and ArmorLube© coatings has come up. Coating Technologies LLC (CTL) is the owner of these processes. We are currently exploring a methodology to help facilitate individual access to our finishes. This will take some time but we will announce availability to Distributors via electronic and printed media as quickly as we can.

To be added to our contact list and receive an update as information becomes available, please send an email with your name, phone number and email address to info@coatingtechnologiesllc.com.

Please note: CTL does NOT have any gunsmithing services nor can we accept work on an individual basis.

If you are a retail store or licensed facility with full-time gunsmithing services available to the public and are interested in becoming a distributor of our finishes please email us at the above address.

Thank you for your patience and we are looking forward to resuming our great relationship with our firearm owning friends.

Robbie Barrkman
CEO

[Mike C]

Thanks for this thread, I was concerned about the closing of ROBAR and found this statement from CT to be very informative and helpful:

Robar Closure

ATTENTION GUN OWNERS:

With the closing of the Robar Companies the question of accessing NP3©, NP3+© and ArmorLube© coatings has come up. Coating Technologies LLC (CTL) is the owner of these processes. We are currently exploring a methodology to help facilitate individual access to our finishes. This will take some time but we will announce availability to Distributors via electronic and printed media as quickly as we can.

To be added to our contact list and receive an update as information becomes available, please send an email with your name, phone number and email address to info@coatingtechnologiesllc.com.

Please note: CTL does NOT have any gunsmithing services nor can we accept work on an individual basis.

If you are a retail store or licensed facility with full-time gunsmithing services available to the public and are interested in becoming a distributor of our finishes please email us at the above address.

Thank you for your patience and we are looking forward to resuming our great relationship with our firearm owning friends.

Robbie Barrkman
CEO

This is great news! I hope some companies will step up and be able to offer services to individuals as new distributors. I imagine markup may be steep but NP3/NP3 + is amazing stuff.

[Guerrero]

According to their Facebook page, Vang Comp is now offering NP3 via Coating Technologies.

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[Poconnor]

I spoke to Cody at Vang Comp yesterday. Apparently Coating technologies is no longer finishing firearm parts unless the quantity done is in the hundreds. Anybody know?

[Chuck Whitlock]

I spoke to Cody at Vang Comp yesterday. Apparently Coating technologies is no longer finishing firearm parts unless the quantity done is in the hundreds. Anybody know?

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?50035-retail-component-of-the-NP3-Firearm-Finishing-Program-will-be-discontinued