The Liberal Agenda and Unanticipated Consequences

[the Schwartz]

Well, it looks like the wave of illegal immigrants to San Francisco―and to other municipalities in the (not so) great state of California―has brought with it, a veritable wave of poop:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2019/04/15/mapping-san-franciscos-human-waste-challenge-132562-case-reports-since-2008/#539ceff75ea5

41468

At least they'll be able to cultivate a bumper crop of roses for next year's Rose Bowl game.

You can't make up stuff like this.


ETA: And yes, there is reportedly an app for it. Reporting it, that is; not depositing it.

[blues]

That's some good shit, right there.

[the Schwartz]

That's some good shit, right there.

🤣😂🤣😂

[45dotACP]

You heard it here first, the whole city will have C.diff by 2022

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[Suvorov]

Old news! By the way - according to many in SF - making light of this makes one a racist.

I was struck by the absurdity just the other day. My 8 year old asked me what a cow pie was? It dawned on me that the children of the Bay Area are contending with human crap on the way to school the same way I would have to deal with open range cattle dung while exploring the great outdoors of my youth.

How f’ed up can you get?

I have to get out of this place, if not for me, for my kids....[emoji20]

[Suvorov]

You heard it here first, the whole city will have C.diff by 2022

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Dr. Drew (hardly the conservative alt right fire brand) as been catching flack for suggesting that mass pandemic is a real possibility in LA for this very reason.

We are seeing a return of diseases that we haven’t seen for decades if not centuries. The media and establishment are high on their horses blaming the anti-vaxers while ignoring the situation on the street.

She may be a nut - but Jenny McCarthy’s unvaccinated kids are not spreading cholera though the homeless camps of Los Angeles.

[Borderland]

Fox has documented the homeless crisis in LA.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/la-residents-fed-up-with-officials-demand-change-after-homeless-crisis-spirals-in-city

Another good indication of where CA is headed.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

[HCM]

Well, it looks like the wave of illegal immigrants to San Francisco―and to other municipalities in the (not so) great state of California―has brought with it, a veritable wave of poop:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2019/04/15/mapping-san-franciscos-human-waste-challenge-132562-case-reports-since-2008/#539ceff75ea5

41468

At least they'll be able to cultivate a bumper crop of roses for next year's Rose Bowl game.

You can't make up stuff like this.


ETA: And yes, there is reportedly an app for it. Reporting it, that is; not depositing it.

In fairness to the illegals, the vast majority of the homeless drug addicts pooping in the streets are good old Americans.

[the Schwartz]

Fox has documented the homeless crisis in LA.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/la-residents-fed-up-with-officials-demand-change-after-homeless-crisis-spirals-in-city

Another good indication of where CA is headed.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

So, to sum it up...

Too many people in the cart and no one to pull it.

[txdpd]

Dr. Drew (hardly the conservative alt right fire brand) as been catching flack for suggesting that mass pandemic is a real possibility in LA for this very reason.

We are seeing a return of diseases that we haven’t seen for decades if not centuries. The media and establishment are high on their horses blaming the anti-vaxers while ignoring the situation on the street.

She may be a nut - but Jenny McCarthy’s unvaccinated kids are not spreading cholera though the homeless camps of Los Angeles.

That and refusing to use use rodenticides, since mountain lions eat rats that are poisoned at marijuana grows, the cities won't take care of the rat problem.

[the Schwartz]

In fairness to the illegals, the vast majority of the homeless drug addicts pooping in the streets are good old Americans.

Yes, HCM, that, too.

Just the same, I am sure that the present result is not what the Liberal/Democratic structure had hoped for.

[the Schwartz]

Dr. Drew (hardly the conservative alt right fire brand) as been catching flack for suggesting that mass pandemic is a real possibility in LA for this very reason.

We are seeing a return of diseases that we haven’t seen for decades if not centuries. The media and establishment are high on their horses blaming the anti-vaxers while ignoring the situation on the street.

She may be a nut - but Jenny McCarthy’s unvaccinated kids are not spreading cholera though the homeless camps of Los Angeles.

Black plague anyone?

[Erick Gelhaus]

On my rare trips to San Fran, while they definately have illegal immigration issues (Kate Steinle's murder), the feces & excrement problem is coming from the homeless problem. Another sign of that is the sky high property crime rate, specifically auto break-ins.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

When we live in the Portland area, before 1994 and the immigration uproar, homeless were pooping consistently in the Portland State parking structures. Coming soon to Austin.

[the Schwartz]

These two posts elicit memory of two quotes that seem almost prescient in their description of what ultimately becomes of these cities as they've devolved into "welfare traps":


On my rare trips to San Fran, while they definately have illegal immigration issues (Kate Steinle's murder), the feces & excrement problem is coming from the homeless problem. Another sign of that is the sky high property crime rate, specifically auto break-ins.


When we live in the Portland area, before 1994 and the immigration uproar, homeless were pooping consistently in the Portland State parking structures. Coming soon to Austin.

“It's not an endlessly expanding list of rights—the 'right' to education, the 'right' to health care, the 'right' to food and housing. That's not freedom, that's dependency. Those aren't rights, those are the rations of slavery—hay and a barn for human cattle.”―P J O'Rourke

“Society is endangered not by the great profligacy of a few, but by the laxity of morals amongst all.”―Alexis de Tocqueville

ETA: Corrected source for second quote as cited/sourced by Sidheshooter.

[Totem Polar]

These two posts elicit memory of two quotes (Alexis de Tocqueville; one of my all-time favorite political scientists) that seem almost prescient in their description of what ultimately becomes of these cities as they've devolved into "welfare traps":





“It's not an endlessly expanding list of rights—the 'right' to education, the 'right' to health care, the 'right' to food and housing. That's not freedom, that's dependency. Those aren't rights, those are the rations of slavery—hay and a barn for human cattle.”―Alexis de Tocqueville


Man, I dig that quote. That said, the language didn’t seem period appropriate for ADT, and a quick google shows that it may be a P J O’Rourke quote instead.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/37028-freedom-is-not-empowerment-empowerment-is-what-the-serbs-have

[AMC]

On my rare trips to San Fran, while they definately have illegal immigration issues (Kate Steinle's murder), the feces & excrement problem is coming from the homeless problem. Another sign of that is the sky high property crime rate, specifically auto break-ins.

To be fair, we've seen a demographic shift in this regard. It used to be primarily the homeless drug addicts, but now the majority of auto boosts are committed by organized gangs. They target tourist areas/rental cars, are vehicle borne for easy escape, post lookouts, work in teams, etc. Still....symptomatic of Californias great experiment to see what happens when you reduce or eliminate penalties for crime.

[HCM]

When we live in the Portland area, before 1994 and the immigration uproar, homeless were pooping consistently in the Portland State parking structures. Coming soon to Austin.

Coming soon ? I guess you haven’t been recently. Let’s just say the future is now...

[HCM]

To be fair, we've seen a demographic shift in this regard. It used to be primarily the homeless drug addicts, but now the majority of auto boosts are committed by organized gangs. They target tourist areas/rental cars, are vehicle borne for easy escape, post lookouts, work in teams, etc. Still....symptomatic of Californias great experiment to see what happens when you reduce or eliminate penalties for crime.

Are they commuter criminals like most of the dope slingers ?

[HCM]

Old news! By the way - according to many in SF - making light of this makes one a racist.

I was struck by the absurdity just the other day. My 8 year old asked me what a cow pie was? It dawned on me that the children of the Bay Area are contending with human crap on the way to school the same way I would have to deal with open range cattle dung while exploring the great outdoors of my youth.

How f’ed up can you get?

I have to get out of this place, if not for me, for my kids....[emoji20]

From 2017 but on point here:

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/14/editorial-racial-injustice-in-seattle/


When two judges of the King County Superior Court in Seattle urged the city government to clean up “the unsanitary and potentially frightening” condition of the sidewalks around the courthouse, sidewalks “that reek of urine and excrement,” Mr. Gossett leaped to action.

Not to clean up the sidewalks, but to warn that power-washing the sidewalks would be “racially insensitive” because it might remind civil-rights activists of the water hoses used by Bull Connor and his cops in faraway Birmingham, Ala., a half-century ago to disperse civil-rights demonstrators. Cleaning up the sidewalks “might be a form of microaggression.”

[AMC]

Are they commuter criminals like most of the dope slingers ?

It's a mixed bag. We definitely have the bridge and tunnel crowd (BART is huge for the East Bay crooks), but a lot of the local 'yutes that would've been slinging dope on the corner have discovered that car break ins are a high yield, low risk activity....actually virtually no risk.

[Drang]

At least they'll be able to cultivate a bumper crop of roses for next year's Rose Bowl game.
Pasadena's a little south of there...

[Yung]

When two judges of the King County Superior Court in Seattle urged the city government to clean up “the unsanitary and potentially frightening” condition of the sidewalks around the courthouse, sidewalks “that reek of urine and excrement,” Mr. Gossett leaped to action.

Not to clean up the sidewalks, but to warn that power-washing the sidewalks would be “racially insensitive” because it might remind civil-rights activists of the water hoses used by Bull Connor and his cops in faraway Birmingham, Ala., a half-century ago to disperse civil-rights demonstrators. Cleaning up the sidewalks “might be a form of microaggression.”

"And I went through with this new knowledge, because people think of conservatives as of, like are fascists, as afraid of those who are different. They're not afraid, they're disgusted. And that's not the same thing, because you burn things you're disgusted by."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQwUCRhWoYs

[the Schwartz]

From 2017 but on point here:

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/14/editorial-racial-injustice-in-seattle/

Yep, so the situation in SF, at least so far as I can see, is

single use plastic bottles: BAD

human feces/urine (and God knows what else) on their sidewalks: OK

[HCM]

Yep, so the situation in SF, at least so far as I can see, is

single use plastic bottles: BAD

human feces/urine (and God knows what else) on their sidewalks: OK

What about single use plastic needles?

It’s not like SF has a diabetes epidemic...

[RevolverRob]

From 2017 but on point here:

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/14/editorial-racial-injustice-in-seattle/

I gotta get my rant on:

<Rant>

I am so fucking tired of hearing/reading/seeing the word "microaggression".

People need to put on their fucking big boy/girl/trans pants/skirts/assless chaps/whatever and get their fucking shit together.

This isn't a microagression aimed at anyone in particular, it is a straight up AGGRESSION aimed at the mentally weak. The slacktivists, the triggered, the butthurt, the people that think doing nothing is doing something and who don't know the difference between words and actions. They come from all political stripes, all gender spectrums, all sexual identities - and if this shit offends you - you're the person it's aimed at.

Get your shit together, HUMAN UP, and stop being a fucking wimp about stuff. If a pressure washer offends your sensibilities, kill yourself. If that previous line offends you, kill yourself. If you live on outrage porn and offense, kill yourself. Do us all a favor and die. We have a surplus population and you know it. If you wanted to solve the problem, you'd drop out of life and ask that your body be donated to science to help teach the next generation of people doing how to do what they want (i.e., to help train medical students).

I need an offense litmus test, so I can start weeding out the weak willed for the cattle they are.

</Rant>

This rant brought to you by Rick and Morty:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tGL-buZ94Y

[the Schwartz]

What about single use plastic needles?

It’s not like SF has a diabetes epidemic...

Of course. Clearly you get it, HCM.

California's legislative bureaucracy is all about doing nothing (really) while trying to create the appearance that they are making great strides towards the public good. So, they go after the "small ball" stuff like reducing landfill volume while leaving the serious health threats alone (poopy sidewalks are a fantastic disease vector) because it might "offend" (yeah, it's the stupid ''microaggression'' thing again) the offenders.

It is exactly this mindset that, I believe, pisses off most of the (mostly rational) electorate. I used to think that Trump was gonna have a hard time being re-elected, but the Democrats/Liberals and the assorted "crazies" are sure doing their best to help him retain the office.

[the Schwartz]

Preach it, brother! That ain't a rant; it's the truth.


I gotta get my rant on:

<Rant>

I am so fucking tired of hearing/reading/seeing the word "microaggression".

People need to put on their fucking big boy/girl/trans pants/skirts/assless chaps/whatever and get their fucking shit together.

This isn't a microagression aimed at anyone in particular, it is a straight up AGGRESSION aimed at the mentally weak. The slacktivists, the triggered, the butthurt, the people that think doing nothing is doing something and who don't know the difference between words and actions. They come from all political stripes, all gender spectrums, all sexual identities - and if this shit offends you - you're the person it's aimed at.

Get your shit together, HUMAN UP, and stop being a fucking wimp about stuff. If a pressure washer offends your sensibilities, kill yourself. If that previous line offends you, kill yourself. If you live on outrage porn and offense, kill yourself. Do us all a favor and die. We have a surplus population and you know it. If you wanted to solve the problem, you'd drop out of life and ask that your body be donated to science to help teach the next generation of people doing how to do what they want (i.e., to help train medical students).

I need an offense litmus test, so I can start weeding out the weak willed for the cattle they are.

</Rant>

This rant brought to you by Rick and Morty:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tGL-buZ94Y

[farscott]

Perhaps I am cynical, but experience has shown me that people will have to learn, the hard way by having many others die, the lessons our ancestors learned about the dangers of sewage in public. What is happening today in SF and LA would have been familiar to the residents of London during the reign of Elizabeth, Charles I, and Charles II. 1665 was the year of the Great Plague, and when London was rebuilt after the Great Fire of 1666, open sewers were abolished. When you have rats, sewage, and fleas, you have the basics for plague.

"Sanitation is what fixes plague" is the lesson that needs to be relearned by many in SF and LA.

[txdpd]

Perhaps I am cynical, but experience has shown me that people will have to learn, the hard way by having many others die, the lessons our ancestors learned about the dangers of sewage in public. What is happening today in SF and LA would have been familiar to the residents of London during the reign of Elizabeth, Charles I, and Charles II. 1665 was the year of the Great Plague, and when London was rebuilt after the Great Fire of 1666, open sewers were abolished. When you have rats, sewage, and fleas, you have the basics for plague.

"Sanitation is what fixes plague" is the lesson that needs to be relearned by many in SF and LA.

But we have to go through the complete cycle of history first. We’re just entering the blame phase. They used to burn witches at the stake for spreading the plague, and now they burn anti-vaxers with clever memes on Facebook. We are a solid 300 years away from sanitation and pest control.

I meet an American doctor in Djibouti that once made a profound statement “you know what makes America great, plumbers and trash men.”

[JodyH]

In fairness to the illegals, the vast majority of the homeless drug addicts pooping in the streets are good old Americans.
Shitty toilet paper on the floor, sink and in the trashcan is a Mexican thing.
Shit on the sidewalk, that's mental illness or India.

[OlongJohnson]

Yeah. It was a recurring problem in plants where a lot of the workers were recent immigrants. It was discussed and we Americans learned that because the plumbing is so marginal in so many places south of the border, it's widely considered the responsible thing to put TP in the trash rather than flushing it. Less chance of hard-to-fix problems.

I've also seen the main sewer line for multiple buildings get plugged with the hand drying paper towels from the restrooms that were flushed down the toilets, and are designed to not come apart in water.

Opposite problems. Both shitty.

[Borderland]

I spent some time in a country in N. Africa. There wasn't a war going on there so mostly I was able to observe the civilian population doing the things they normally do every day. I was having dinner at a fairly upscale French restaurant (by their standards) and was on my way out. Some locals were leaving at the same time and walking about 10' in front of me. One of the women stopped, hiked up her skirt and urinated on the sidewalk right in front of me. I had to walk around her to pass. Very common practice and I used to see it all the time on the roads. Just relieve yourself whenever and wherever you need to, even in public. Never will forget that.

[Trigger]

I meet an American doctor in Djibouti that once made a profound statement “you know what makes America great, plumbers and trash men.”

Signature material right there.

I say that half in sarcasm and half seriously. The “Keep American Beautiful” and “Pitch in” campaigns do a lot to get trash into trash cans where it belongs, and not scattered on the ground. I hate visiting beautiful places and seeing trash littered about. In some countries I have visited this is way too common.

[45dotACP]

Maybe they're just playing 4D chess and trying to trigger a pandemic that will take their city's homeless and elderly population down a few hundred thousand. Decriminalized heroin, a breeding ground for diseases that will disproportionately kill the old and disease prone (homeless) who are both enormously expensive in terms of medical care and public aid. And it's not like they don't know about eugenics or anything. After all, Margaret Sanger was the founder of Planned Parenthood.

Now there's a conspiracy for ya.

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