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LittleLebowski
08-12-2019, 10:21 AM
Honestly, I am getting the urge to !STOCKPILE! again, ala 2016.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/daily-deals-new.html


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OlongJohnson
08-12-2019, 10:26 AM
Me, too. Contributing factor is that I'm back to wondering how bad the hoarding is going to get this time, and how soon.

SecondsCount
08-12-2019, 10:26 AM
I try hard not to open their emails. They got me once this year and I'm struggling to keep it from happening again :cool:

When they put Federal Automatch on sale again, I'll probably pick some up. It shoots pretty well through my CZ455.

CCT125US
08-12-2019, 10:35 AM
Not to be an enabler.

What would one desire in the 7th year of an anti's term?

Start there. After all other debts are paid off, and you have several months salary in the bank.

ralph
08-12-2019, 11:10 AM
If people haven't stocked up by now, I don't know what to tell them...The last couple of years AR's have been dirt cheap, shame on anybody who thought they'd stay that way forever. Prices are still reasonable, how long they stay that way is anybody's guess, but things could start going downhill after congress comes back in September. If you think you need another AR,AK, mags, (rifle or pistol) ammo, etc, then, you'd better be making a move soon.. It's better to have it, and not need it, rather than need it, and not have it.. I'm not suggesting anyone panic buy, but it might not be a bad idea to get what you want, now..

LittleLebowski
08-12-2019, 12:58 PM
Not to be an enabler.

What would one desire in the 7th year of an anti's term?

Start there. After all other debts are paid off, and you have several months salary in the bank.


I'd say lowers, mags, reloading components, and mags.

Poconnor
08-12-2019, 01:04 PM
Stock up on ammo. The bullshit is California about buying ammo will spread. How much ammo is a personal question. Personally I would like a hidden bunker big enough to hold several conexes of ammo. Imagine an AHA for an infantry company.

ralph
08-12-2019, 01:35 PM
Stock up on ammo. The bullshit is California about buying ammo will spread. How much ammo is a personal question. Personally I would like a hidden bunker big enough to hold several conexes of ammo. Imagine an AHA for an infantry company.

Guess it'd be a good time for folks to buy and test drive Dillon's new press the 750..Myself, I already have two 650's so, I don't need another press, But for you folks wanting ammo, this works..Again, not trying to induce panic buying, but now's a good time to buy a press, dies, and stock up on components...Figure the shitshow will start shortly after congress comes back from summer recess..

Clusterfrack
08-12-2019, 01:42 PM
Recent Palmetto purchases: 300BO 7.5” on a Palmetto Pistol lower. Doublestar Strongarm brace. With a H3 buffer, shooting supersonic, ejection is perfect and mags lock back on empty. 1-2moa without much effort.

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spinmove_
08-12-2019, 01:45 PM
Guess it'd be a good time for folks to buy and test drive Dillon's new press the 750..Myself, I already have two 650's so, I don't need another press, But for you folks wanting ammo, this works..Again, not trying to induce panic buying, but now's a good time to buy a press, dies, and stock up on components...Figure the shitshow will start shortly after congress comes back from summer recess..

Yeah, I was about to say pretty much this. I managed to snag a 550C at a gun show this weekend for $390 and a set of 9mm Dillon carbide dies for $65. As soon as I get a bench built it’s getting mounted and prepped for all my brass that’s getting cleaned up right now.


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ralph
08-12-2019, 02:18 PM
Yeah, I was about to say pretty much this. I managed to snag a 550C at a gun show this weekend for $390 and a set of 9mm Dillon carbide dies for $65. As soon as I get a bench built it’s getting mounted and prepped for all my brass that’s getting cleaned up right now.


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A 550 is a good press, I used one for about 14-15 years, I still use it to load .44mag, .38, and things like 30-06, 6.5x55, for $390 you did good assuming it came with all the stuff it's supposed to.. large and small primer pickup tubes, large and small primer drop tubes, large and small primer bars, at least one tool head, and the little thingy that you use to index the shellplate, and the aluminium cup to catch spent primers. And don't forget you can put a casefeeder on a 550, but there is a drawback...If you plan to load rifle cases on this press forget about the casefeeder, I asked dillon about this before and they told me that it takes about an hour to install the casefeeder and to adjust it all up. If you want to load rifle calibers, you'll have to take it all off.. The strong mount? That's up to you..I loaded on the 550 sitting down, and it worked fine. I rigged a bbq light up on the press, so I could see if the cases had powder in them before I seated a bullet. With the 650's I went with the strong mount and the bullet trays, and a powder check on my 9mm and .223 toolheads. You have to stand to load with this type of mount, but it works fine, I was kinda worried about this at first, because I have a knee replacement in my right knee, it turned out to be a non- issue..The roller handle, especially on a 650, is nice,too..

Bigghoss
08-12-2019, 03:30 PM
Stock up on ammo. The bullshit is California about buying ammo will spread. How much ammo is a personal question. Personally I would like a hidden bunker big enough to hold several conexes of ammo. Imagine an AHA for an infantry company.

A good rule of thumb is if your floor can support the weight of your ammo cache, you don't have enough.

ranger
08-12-2019, 04:56 PM
I recently got a PSA "FN barrel" 5.56 14.5 in pinned to 16 in upper. Very happy.

Totem Polar
08-12-2019, 05:35 PM
Man, I just clicked on this thread. 1993 called: they want their ammo prices back...

OlongJohnson
08-12-2019, 09:36 PM
Thinking about where to deploy resources, if anywhere, I typed out the following questions for further contemplation:


What is the relative value of stockpiling XM193 and 9mm FMJ vs. using the Dillon to assemble higher-quality (more accurate) feed even in service calibers?


e.g. - What is relative value/accuracy of a bulk bullet / BTHP / bonded SP load worked up for accuracy with TAC or similar and assembled in volume vs. random XM193 results?


How much shooting/training will you do where accuracy better than XM193 will matter?


What is the ammo sensitivity of your pistols? Can you assemble ammo that is usefully more accurate in your hands for reasonable cost?


Assume time and money are limited, and contemplate opportunity cost.

Duelist
08-13-2019, 02:14 AM
Thinking about where to deploy resources, if anywhere, I typed out the following questions for further contemplation:


What is the relative value of stockpiling XM193 and 9mm FMJ vs. using the Dillon to assemble higher-quality (more accurate) feed even in service calibers?


e.g. - What is relative value/accuracy of a bulk bullet / BTHP / bonded SP load worked up for accuracy with TAC or similar and assembled in volume vs. random XM193 results?


How much shooting/training will you do where accuracy better than XM193 will matter?


What is the ammo sensitivity of your pistols? Can you assemble ammo that is usefully more accurate in your hands for reasonable cost?


Assume time and money are limited, and contemplate opportunity cost.


This is why I haven’t loaded a 9mm round in nearly 3 years: cases go for cheap enough that I can’t justify the time. I load for hunting rifles, and 5.56 accuracy loads, and .38/.357. I have loaded tons of 9mm in the past, but back when WalMart sold 100rds of WWB for <$10, I didn’t bother. Even though it’s a lot more than that now, as time got more limited, I started buying 9mm ball by the case instead. Can’t see changing that any time soon, unless training ammo shoots up in price for some reason.

Probably will order another case or two in the near future. And some more cheaper 5.56.

BK14
08-13-2019, 11:51 AM
Bought a couple palmetto rifle kits, the upper rail requires a soft mallet to install a magpul MBUS on both, and the midlength 16” barrel won’t cycle anything bellow full power 5.56 (which is primarily all I shoot. But I have some fiochi lying around).

Put a bad taste in my mouth.... are there other recommendations for cheap rifle kits/uppers/lowers? I’ve looked at radical, but have issues with their company. I like Aero, but trying to find closer to palmetto pricing with in-spec guns.

Wake27
08-13-2019, 11:56 AM
Bought a couple palmetto rifle kits, the upper rail requires a soft mallet to install a magpul MBUS on both, and the midlength 16” barrel won’t cycle anything bellow full power 5.56 (which is primarily all I shoot. But I have some fiochi lying around).

Put a bad taste in my mouth.... are there other recommendations for cheap rifle kits/uppers/lowers? I’ve looked at radical, but have issues with their company. I like Aero, but trying to find closer to palmetto pricing with in-spec guns.

Did you contact Palmetto about the function issue?


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Clusterfrack
08-13-2019, 12:20 PM
Bought a couple palmetto rifle kits, the upper rail requires a soft mallet to install a magpul MBUS on both, and the midlength 16” barrel won’t cycle anything bellow full power 5.56 (which is primarily all I shoot. But I have some fiochi lying around).

Put a bad taste in my mouth.... are there other recommendations for cheap rifle kits/uppers/lowers? I’ve looked at radical, but have issues with their company. I like Aero, but trying to find closer to palmetto pricing with in-spec guns.

I actually prefer a more restricted gas system. I want a gun that will work with 5.56, suppressed and unsuppressed. That sometimes comes at the cost of not locking back on empty with low power ammo. I’m ok with that. Way better than an overgassed gun.

BK14
08-13-2019, 12:44 PM
I did. They offered to send an RMA to check out the uppers. They recommended I used a rubber mallet for the rear sight....

BK14
08-13-2019, 12:45 PM
I actually prefer a more restricted gas system. I want a gun that will work with 5.56, suppressed and unsuppressed. That sometimes comes at the cost of not locking back on empty with low power ammo. I’m ok with that. Way better than an overgassed gun.

It was more than not locking back, it was inducing malfunctions. Again, I don’t shoot below 556 except for rarely, so it wasn’t worth the time of sending it back since it runs with 556.

Wake27
08-13-2019, 12:55 PM
My PSA is the only gun I don’t feel bad putting steel ammo through. I don’t even like doing it to my Glocks...


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beenalongtime
08-13-2019, 12:56 PM
This is why I haven’t loaded a 9mm round in nearly 3 years: cases go for cheap enough that I can’t justify the time. I load for hunting rifles, and 5.56 accuracy loads, and .38/.357. I have loaded tons of 9mm in the past, but back when WalMart sold 100rds of WWB for <$10, I didn’t bother. Even though it’s a lot more than that now, as time got more limited, I started buying 9mm ball by the case instead. Can’t see changing that any time soon, unless training ammo shoots up in price for some reason.

Probably will order another case or two in the near future. And some more cheaper 5.56.

So you're saying, you don't reload 9mm, but your stockpiling the brass?

Duelist
08-13-2019, 07:10 PM
So you're saying, you don't reload 9mm, but your stockpiling the brass?

Yup, cans upon cans of it.

revchuck38
08-13-2019, 07:53 PM
So you're saying, you don't reload 9mm, but your stockpiling the brass?

I've got a five-gallon bucket of cleaned 9x19 brass. I really need to order an eight-pound keg of powder, a couple of cases of 124-grain FMJs and another case of small pistol primers and get to work.

Spartan1980
08-13-2019, 09:37 PM
I know a guy that scrapped a conex box of mostly 9mm brass. He literally had a ridiculous amount. It wouldn't sell even at scrap prices.