What about revolvers and red dot sights?

[314159]

Regressing in time on one issue while striding fearlessly into the future on the other.

I've got a fair number of S&W revolvers with the adjustable sights and scope mounting holes already drilled into the top strap.

What is the cleanest mount for an RMR here?

I can dream of a dedicated design for revolvers but I suspect that's not going to happen.

[Dagga Boy]

I ran one on my competition revolver starting in around 1990 with an Aimpoint 3000 on a GP100 Slab barrel gun. It was phenomenal. I have a PC 627 right now that will be getting a red dot at some point. They work well and have none of the issues as the semi autos.

[HCM]

Regressing in time on one issue while striding fearlessly into the future on the other.

I've got a fair number of S&W revolvers with the adjustable sights and scope mounting holes already drilled into the top strap.

What is the cleanest mount for an RMR here?

I can dream of a dedicated design for revolvers but I suspect that's not going to happen.

Aimpoint used to have a stainless finish version of the T1/H1 called the R1 which I believe was intended for hunting revolvers. Aimpoint on an N frame is something I have wanted to do for years.

[mmc45414]

Aimpoint used to have a stainless finish version of the T1/H1 called the R1 which I believe was intended for hunting revolvers. Aimpoint on an N frame is something I have wanted to do for years.I got one when Midway ran a deal. They also have some specific mounts.

The problem is I only have one, I think another one would be great on a GP-100.
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[mmc45414]

I've got a fair number of S&W revolvers with the adjustable sights and scope mounting holes already drilled into the top strap.

What is the cleanest mount for an RMR here?
I like this one, but do not have:
https://www.jackweigand.com/Smith-Wesson-Revolver-Mini-Mount.html



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[41magfan]

A possible option ...

https://allchingunparts.com/products/smith-wesson-mini-sts-scope-mount-new.html

[awp_101]

I like this one, but do not have:
https://www.jackweigand.com/Smith-Wesson-Revolver-Mini-Mount.html
I've used the no d&t GP100 full rail and I'd have no problem using that S&W mount if I were looking to dot a Smith. In fact, I'm sort of thinking about getting the GP mount that only replaces the rear sight and trying something bigger than a Fastfire. I found the FF too small to acquire the dot quickly but that's a training and familiarity issue as much as it is an equipment issue.

[backtrail540]

Ive got a raptor engineering mount for a vortex viper I'll be mounting on a 617 later today. I'll post pics later once i get it put together. I plan on doing an open 627/327/929 or super gp100 later in the year.

I'm starting with budget dots on the 617 but will probably go dpp on the centerfire guns. I don't think durability will be as much of an issue since they're not reciprocating on a slide.

I got my ambition from the revolvers only rds project
https://www.revolversonly.com/p/red-dot-revolver-concept.html?m=1

[Tom Duffy]

Regressing in time on one issue while striding fearlessly into the future on the other.

I've got a fair number of S&W revolvers with the adjustable sights and scope mounting holes already drilled into the top strap.

What is the cleanest mount for an RMR here?

I can dream of a dedicated design for revolvers but I suspect that's not going to happen.

I find this mount from Trijicon works great:

https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=RM46

It mounts the RMR relatively low on the gun and is really solid. You can buy a cheaper BladeTech holster that has clearance for the optic to try the whole thing out.

[314159]

That looks like a perfect starting point, thanks.

[backtrail540]

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Now i just need an apex hammer and a grip and it's good to go

[RevolverRob]

Those Raptor mounts look good - here's the website for anyone who wants - https://www.raptor-eng.com/index.html

But the RMR46 mount linked up thread looks like it's the lowest mount out there. It folds over and makes a low mount height for an RMR. I've been thinking about doing one up, but mount heights have always bothered me.

[nycnoob]

Here is mine.

Robar drilled the holes and mounted the Trijicon RM46 mount.
They also coated the revolver with NP3+.

[Norville]

Set this up for pin shooting back when this was the cutting edge. State of the art 1991 - Baumann 7 shot cylinder, Tasco PDP3. The scope still works after many thousands of 210 PF loads.

[HCM]

Set this up for pin shooting. State of the art 1991 - Baumann 7 shot cylinder, Tasco PDP3. The scope still works after many thousands of 210 PF loads.

I have a 90s vintage ProPoint that is still going strong.

[SeriousStudent]

Set this up for pin shooting back when this was the cutting edge. State of the art 1991 - Baumann 7 shot cylinder, Tasco PDP3. The scope still works after many thousands of 210 PF loads.

That's honestly what I was thinking. Find an old PPC, Bianchi Cup or bowling pin gun, then put a spare Aimpoint on it.

It would be a hoot to hand to the kiddos, and have them shoot plates with it.

[Radar Love]

So there's no way this would be practical or sell, but for awhile I've wanted to see a j-frame with an integrated red dot, maybe reduce the profile by moving the battery down into the backstrap and use it to power a WML on the front...I'm imagining something like a camera hotshoe under the rear sight

[Super77]

I have an 629 with one mounted using the EGW mount. Shoots like it has radar but the height over bore feels a little funky.39839

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[olstyn]

many thousands of 210 PF loads.

That's a spicy meatball! Hotter loads = better for taking pins off the table?

[Norville]

That's a spicy meatball! Hotter loads = better for taking pins off the table?

Correct. Pin shooting is all about momentum. 230 grain .38 caliber “Wadcutter “ at 825-850 FPS.

[backtrail540]

So there's no way this would be practical or sell, but for awhile I've wanted to see a j-frame with an integrated red dot, maybe reduce the profile by moving the battery down into the backstrap and use it to power a WML on the front...I'm imagining something like a camera hotshoe under the rear sight

Maybe a model 60 pro series? It's tapped for the adjustable rear. If it's the same 3 hole pattern as other smiths then a raptor or similar would work. That'd be a cool gun

[Speederlander]

They work well and have none of the issues as the semi autos.

Reliability wise?

[Dagga Boy]

Reliability wise?

Look at the posts of people having red dots mounted on high round count revolvers for decades. Not being attached to a slide that is moving or a part of a rifle with parts moving under them is helpful for optics life.

[backtrail540]

Had my 617/vortex viper out today. I'm a very novice revolver shooter but it made it fairly easy. I still am working on my wheelgun grip and presentation but i managed 9/10 @25 in 10 on an 8" plate. Also 4/10 @50 on the same 8" plate, i'd be lucky to get a hit with irons. Plus a random cylinder dump at 10 yards. My previous dot experience is limited to a week with a 19/rmr and a session with a 320rx. This thing is great, and I'm sure it will keep getting better.


https://youtu.be/vQ43sIx8C-0
10@25-1mike


https://youtu.be/mejN304-RLo
10@10


https://youtu.be/RQpNG71y0N8
10@50 - i lost focus then confidence and just started pressing bad shots but i managed 4/10. Better than i expected

[Rex G]

I just ordered a Weig-A-Tinny to fit Ruger revolvers. I bought a Security Six, some time ago, with a severely abused rear sight*, and had bought a Millett rear sight, planning to use it to replace the factory rear sight, but I have an Aimpoint Micro T-1 4 MOA that is not currently busy, so it will soon be on the Security Six.

I understand that height-over-bore will be a concern. There is no such thing as a free lunch. As I see it, fixed-sight Speed Six or GP100 for close-range emergencies, and Aimpoint-sighted Security Six for social events in Wal-Mart parking lots.

*Early Security Six rear sights were made of quite soft metal, so easily damaged/worn.

[JTMcC]

I just ordered a Weig-A-Tinny to fit Ruger revolvers. I bought a Security Six, some time ago, with a severely abused rear sight*, and had bought a Millett rear sight, planning to use it to replace the factory rear sight, but I have an Aimpoint Micro T-1 4 MOA that is not currently busy, so it will soon be on the Security Six.

I understand that height-over-bore will be a concern. There is no such thing as a free lunch. As I see it, fixed-sight Speed Six or GP100 for close-range emergencies, and Aimpoint-sighted Security Six for social events in Wal-Mart parking lots.

*Early Security Six rear sights were made of quite soft metal, so easily damaged/worn.

Did you order the regular, or the mini?
After you put it to use, I'd like to hear how you like it.

[Tod-13]

Did you order the regular, or the mini?
After you put it to use, I'd like to hear how you like it.

I've been using the regular for years on pre-key 41 mag Smiths for hunting, and got the mini when they came out a while back. Both work fine. Choosing one is a matter of footprint for the dot/scope and esthetics.

[Rex G]

Did you order the regular, or the mini?
After you put it to use, I'd like to hear how you like it.

I ordered the Mini.

Will do!

[Lester Polfus]

Usually, when I get a visit from The Good Idea Fairy in the shape of something like "Hey! I should buy one of those Weigand rails for my GP100 and put a dot on it," if I just wait a few months somebody on P-F will try it first and I get to learn vicariously through them.

Thanks Rex!

[oregon45]

I had an Ultradot Matchdot on my Ruger Super Redhawk in 480 Ruger and it worked perfectly through several hundred full-power 425gr loads; it now resides on my father-in-law's Dan Wesson 357 Super Magnum he uses for IHMSA. The Ultradots are a little under half the price of the Deltapoint/RMR/Acro type dots but they work, and have worked, on pistols for decades because they're not intended to ride on a reciprocating slide.

[JTMcC]

I've been using the regular for years on pre-key 41 mag Smiths for hunting, and got the mini when they came out a while back. Both work fine. Choosing one is a matter of footprint for the dot/scope and esthetics.

Lot's of ammo thru the .41 mag with that mount on it?
Mine would be on a scandium .44 RM, so looking for a sturdy option. These seem to fill that spot but I'm still researching.

[Tod-13]

Lot's of ammo thru the .41 mag with that mount on it?
Mine would be on a scandium .44 RM, so looking for a sturdy option. These seem to fill that spot but I'm still researching.

Well, not GJM levels of "lots". But what most would consider lots. 300-500 a year for 4-5 years I think.

[JTMcC]

Excellent, thanks.

[mmc45414]

Mine would be on a scandium .44 RM, so looking for a sturdy option.
Are the scandium guns threaded under the sights? If not, wonder what the tapping might be like...

I am watching this because I think this would be cool on top of a 6" GP100. I don't have one, but that is not gonna stop me!!! :)

I have thought about experimenting with my SBH. Even if the mount finds another home I am not going to care if that gun has a couple extra holes in it.


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[JTMcC]

Are the scandium guns threaded under the sights? If not, wonder what the tapping might be like...

I am watching this because I think this would be cool on top of a 6" GP100. I don't have one, but that is not gonna stop me!!! :)

I have thought about experimenting with my SBH. Even if the mount finds another home I am not going to care if that gun has a couple extra holes in it.


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Yes, mine at least is drilled/tapped.
SBH seems like a suitable victim ;)

[awp_101]

Usually, when I get a visit from The Good Idea Fairy in the shape of something like "Hey! I should buy one of those Weigand rails for my GP100 and put a dot on it," if I just wait a few months somebody on P-F will try it first and I get to learn vicariously through them.

Like this?:D

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40679137343_5ea642470d_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24YFdhX)

Short version: I would have been happier with the mini rail (I originally planned to scope this hence the full length rail) and a bigger RDS. I've tried the Burris on 4-5 different pistols and rifles now and it turns out my preference is for a larger window.

[Lester Polfus]

Like this?:D

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40679137343_5ea642470d_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24YFdhX)

Short version: I would have been happier with the mini rail (I originally planned to scope this hence the full length rail) and a bigger RDS. I've tried the Burris on 4-5 different pistols and rifles now and it turns out my preference is for a larger window.

That's good info. Thank you.

How do you carry it?

[awp_101]

I don't carry it. I'd have to OWB and a Texas summer is too stinking hot for a cover garment if you ask me.

I put the dot on for DA dry fire training and a range trip or two. Didn't like it scoped either so now it wears Williams Fire Sights.

[Rex G]

Well, it appears that an Aimpoint Micro, at 3.7 ounces, or so, presumably without the picatinny adapter, is a bit too heavy for the Weig-A-Tinny Mini, with a maximum recommended weight limit of 3.5 ounces. I can either presumptuously hope that the small amount, over the limit, will not cause issues, or, better, use a different optic.

Edited to add: Well, ACROs not available, it seems. This is going to take longer than I thought, if I want to use a closed/sealed optic. Sigh. I had thought I might have this cobbled-together before the weekend.

[Rex G]

I think that my first red-dotted “carry” gun is going to be a Micro-Aimpointed Glock, with an ALG mount, as was my plan before I caught the fever for Aimpointing the Security Six. I do not want to tempt fate by mounting an Aimpoint Micro onto a mount not rated for a Micro’s weight, even for shooting target wadcutters. I am not an engineer, and will not presume to act like one. The Ruger sixgun is going to have to wait for ACROs to become available, again.

In this context, “carry gun” means carried inside a bag. I have brief-cased, messenger-bagged, and camera-bagged big pistols plenty of times; wearing one serious weapon, and bagging the other. (I do not believe that one’s “primary” weapon should be off-body.)

In the past, the chief worry was being asked to check the bag upon entry, but with so many folks now carrying laptops and tablets, it became impractical for most establishments to be responsible for so many bags, with so many holding valuable contents.

I do have two holsters, which will accommodate a Glock with an ALG mount, with Aimpoint Micro, but it requires quite a voluminous outer garment to conceal either rig.

I do love my revolvers, which will, probably, remain my favored on-my-person guns. My Security Six will get its dot, eventually.

[Lost River]

Reference the Weigand "WEIG-A-TINNY" rail, they are a solid setup.

I have used on for a while now on a 5" M29 .44 mag and it has never had any issues.

http://i.imgur.com/eVSt8Au.jpg (https://imgur.com/eVSt8Au)

Edit to add that the Burris Fast fire has held up so far to the recoil.

[Lost River]

For the gun that I put hot loads through, I run an Ultradot, which have an outstanding reputation among handgun dedicated handgun hunters.

The gun below, which is a 7.5" Redhawk .44 is zeroed for 300 grain XTPs at 100 yards, and will shoot quite small groups. The ultradot has never given me a minute of trouble.


http://i.imgur.com/s6ypQ7l.jpg (https://imgur.com/s6ypQ7l)


I only shot a few groups the day I was doing some load development, but here is the best of the ones I shot:

This was if I recall a shade over 100 yards.

http://i.imgur.com/yOTsZ0B.jpg (https://imgur.com/yOTsZ0B)

couple more:

http://i.imgur.com/jgvHheI.jpg (https://imgur.com/jgvHheI)


http://i.imgur.com/fqdt7F1.jpg (https://imgur.com/fqdt7F1)

The point of showing the targets is that there is no way that I could shoot an average of 1.5"-2" groups at 100+ yards with open sights.
The red dot makes a huge difference.

[Malamute]

... tempt fate by mounting an Aimpoint Micro onto a mount not rated for a Micro’s weight, even for shooting target wadcutters.

Im not familiar with the mount, if it has screws, can they be bumped up to the next larger size? If that is the factory rear sight elevation screw that wouldnt be feasible, but adding another screw or two may. All are pretty simple for basic gunsmithing or even home hobby gunsmithing if one is careful and/or has a drill press with vise.

[Rex G]

Im not familiar with the mount, if it has screws, can they be bumped up to the next larger size? If that is the factory rear sight elevation screw that wouldnt be feasible, but adding another screw or two may. All are pretty simple for basic gunsmithing or even home hobby gunsmithing if one is careful and/or has a drill press with vise.

Thanks.

I am thinking that the slightly longer mount, that requires another hole or two, to be D&T’ed, would be better, if I want to use an Aimpoint Micro, on this Security Six. I’ll either wait for the ACRO, or try one of the miniaturized sights, on this Mini Weigand.

I could, of course, get a full-length Weigand rail, for an adjustable-sighted GP100; no gunsmithing required.

[Malamute]

Drilling and tapping holes is relatively simple, but then Ive gone to rather complex lengths to make something look the way I like. I would like a mount that looks like its perfect for what I used it on with nothing extra sticking out anywhere. Mounting on the frame ahead of the rear sight or on the barrel would allow the rear sight to stay in place. its a curse. i cant leave much of anything alone or settle for things that dont suit my detail oriented eye.

If the mount you have is good other than not rated, id just drill more holes in the mount and frame to make it more secure, and use larger size screws.

[backtrail540]

Just saw that Apex has a k/l/n/x frame mount for the Acro P1. An aimpoint on k frame seems like a fun project for next year.

https://store.apextactical.com/WebDirect/Products/Details/193398

Plus, as slow as my revolver reloads are, I can just change batteries during the reload and it wouldn't make much difference in my time.:cool::cool:

[mmc45414]

Just saw that Apex has a k/l/n/x frame mount for the Acro P1 aimpoint on k frame
An RMR version might maybe endanger my pending 1301 purchase... :cool:

[backtrail540]

An RMR version might maybe endanger my pending 1301 purchase... :cool:

While not apex, raptor has one for the rmr footprint...

https://www.raptor-eng.com/raptor_eng_003.htm

[HCM]

I have wanted a .357 N frame with an Aimpoint micro for sometime but optics on revolvers always reminds me of this....

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[JTMcC]

I have wanted a .357 N frame with an Aimpoint micro for sometime but optics on revolvers always reminds me of this....

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You say that like it's a bad thing

[HCM]

For the gun that I put hot loads through, I run an Ultradot, which have an outstanding reputation among handgun dedicated handgun hunters.

The gun below, which is a 7.5" Redhawk .44 is zeroed for 300 grain XTPs at 100 yards, and will shoot quite small groups. The ultradot has never given me a minute of trouble.


http://i.imgur.com/s6ypQ7l.jpg (https://imgur.com/s6ypQ7l)


I only shot a few groups the day I was doing some load development, but here is the best of the ones I shot:

This was if I recall a shade over 100 yards.

http://i.imgur.com/yOTsZ0B.jpg (https://imgur.com/yOTsZ0B)

couple more:

http://i.imgur.com/jgvHheI.jpg (https://imgur.com/jgvHheI)


http://i.imgur.com/fqdt7F1.jpg (https://imgur.com/fqdt7F1)

The point of showing the targets is that there is no way that I could shoot an average of 1.5"-2" groups at 100+ yards with open sights.
The red dot makes a huge difference.

I ran an ultra dot on an AR for the first half of the 1990s with no issues.

[mtnbkr]

Well, it appears that an Aimpoint Micro, at 3.7 ounces, or so, presumably without the picatinny adapter, is a bit too heavy for the Weig-A-Tinny Mini, with a maximum recommended weight limit of 3.5 ounces. I can either presumptuously hope that the small amount, over the limit, will not cause issues, or, better, use a different optic.

What did you end up doing? I'm considering the same mount for my 625, but with a Bushnell TRS-25. The TRS-25 is also too heavy by about 3/4oz. But the mount uses the same 3 screws other mounts that support larger red dots and such. Is the limitation due to an issue with the threaded holes in the frame or the mount itself? I'm going to be running light-to-standard 45acp loads if it matters.

My other option is to buy the Raptor mount and a Holosun RDS (nearly $300 combined). I'd rather go with the TRS-25 since I already have that and would only need the base.

Chris

[SeriousStudent]

Just saw that Apex has a k/l/n/x frame mount for the Acro P1. An aimpoint on k frame seems like a fun project for next year.

https://store.apextactical.com/WebDirect/Products/Details/193398

Plus, as slow as my revolver reloads are, I can just change batteries during the reload and it wouldn't make much difference in my time.:cool::cool:

I have a 4" N-frame Model 28 Highway Patrolman. I've also got an ACRO P-1.

I'll let you know how the new Apex mount works out on steel plates. :)

[backtrail540]

I have a 4" N-frame Model 28 Highway Patrolman. I've also got an ACRO P-1.

I'll let you know how the new Apex mount works out on steel plates. :)

Looking forward to the report!

[mmc45414]

Well, it appears that an Aimpoint Micro, at 3.7 ounces, or so, presumably without the picatinny adapter, is a bit too heavy for the Weig-A-Tinny Mini, with a maximum recommended weight limit of 3.5 ounces. I can either presumptuously hope that the small amount, over the limit, will not cause issues, or, better, use a different optic.

Im not familiar with the mount, if it has screws, can they be bumped up to the next larger size? If that is the factory rear sight elevation screw that wouldnt be feasible, but adding another screw or two may. All are pretty simple for basic gunsmithing or even home hobby gunsmithing if one is careful and/or has a drill press with vise.
I was kind of wondering the same thing. I am thinking about this for my Super Blackhawk, and I really wouldn't care if it ends up with an extra hole in it.


What did you end up doing? I'm considering the same mount for my 625, but with a Bushnell TRS-25. The TRS-25 is also too heavy by about 3/4oz. But the mount uses the same 3 screws other mounts that support larger red dots and such. Is the limitation due to an issue with the threaded holes in the frame or the mount itself? I'm going to be running light-to-standard 45acp loads if it matters.
That sure would be light loads in a heavy gun.

[Rex G]

What did you end up doing? I'm considering the same mount for my 625, but with a Bushnell TRS-25. The TRS-25 is also too heavy by about 3/4oz. But the mount uses the same 3 screws other mounts that support larger red dots and such. Is the limitation due to an issue with the threaded holes in the frame or the mount itself?

Chris

I deferred the revolver project. I am not an engineer, so would rather not speculate, on your second question. I shifted my attention to an ACRO P-1 on a Glock, for now.

[mtnbkr]

I deferred the revolver project. I am not an engineer, so would rather not speculate, on your second question. I shifted my attention to an ACRO P-1 on a Glock, for now.

I did some poking around online and it seems other weaver mounts (such as the Weaver 401) are used to mount larger red dots and even scopes. Other bases using the same mounting method also support heavier devices. I'm going to speculate the Weigand limit is their own and not an issue with the existing threaded holes.

I found the Weaver 401 on Amazon for $7. It's not quite as clean as the Weigand, but it works.

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Chris

[paul105]

Been working with a couple of different red dot setup on a S&W M69 L Frame .44 Mag. Here's a Trigicon RMR 6.5 MOA dot mounted on a EGW base. The base is very compact and mounts with only one screw leaving the front of the factory sight mortice open.

https://photos.imageevent.com/paul105/hobby/M69%20Trig%20RMR%20thumbnail_IMG_3240.jpg

Also have a C-More STS mounted on the same gun with the Weigan mini wigatinny SP? The RMR/EGW is noticibly lower.

https://photos.imageevent.com/paul105/hobby/M69%20C%20More%20thumbnail_IMG_3206.jpg

Have a Leupold Deltapoint Pro and a JPoint mount that I'll be trying out soon on one of those guns.

Here's a picture of an N Frame S&W with C-More STS and Alchin SP? mount and a Freedom Arms M83 with a JPoint mount and Jpoint red dot.

https://photos.imageevent.com/paul105/hobby/large/Group%20Pic%20IMG_0145%202_zpsqniz5z7d.jpg

Paul

[Wagz]

I wish you guys posted the holsters you are using with each Red dot mounted Revolver. :) I recently put a Weig-a-tinny mount & Vortex Venom red dot on my Taurus tracker 692 with 6.5" barrel. All of that was pretty easy to find and assemble. The hardest bit is finding a holster for the setup. What did you guys do, just cut a holster?

[backtrail540]

I wish you guys posted the holsters you are using with each Red dot mounted Revolver. :) I recently put a Weig-a-tinny mount & Vortex Venom red dot on my Taurus tracker 692 with 6.5" barrel. All of that was pretty easy to find and assemble. The hardest bit is finding a holster for the setup. What did you guys do, just cut a holster?

I'm just using a bladetech owb that I chopped a bit with a dremel to accommodate the dot - for my 617 and the raptor mount.

[Wagz]

I'm just using a bladetech owb that I chopped a bit with a dremel to accommodate the dot - for my 617 and the raptor mount.

Had a look at their website. I guess you're using the Soft Holster and you cut that? I didn't see any other ones fit for revolvers. But I could be looking at the wrong website.

[backtrail540]

Had a look at their website. I guess you're using the Soft Holster and you cut that? I didn't see any other ones fit for revolvers. But I could be looking at the wrong website.

Kydex that i bought from Ebay. I'll see if i can find the link

Edit - here the 617 is in the drop down

https://www.ebay.com/itm/182454230604

[AzShooter]

https://i.imgur.com/b1B7dHll.jpg

I love shooting with a Dot on my revolvers. For ICORE I shot one on my 929. For Steel Challenge I now shoot from a wheelchair and use my S&W 617 in .22 with great luck and my C-More Slideride with a 12 minute dot.

[awp_101]

https://i.imgur.com/b1B7dHll.jpg

For Steel Challenge I now shoot from a wheelchair and use my S&W 617 in .22 with great luck and my C-More Slideride with a 12 minute dot.

I'll take those kinds of groups at 15yds offhand all day long, much less 25yds. It looks like the hammer is modified, are you running DA only? If so, well done!

[jetfire]

https://i.imgur.com/b1B7dHll.jpg

I love shooting with a Dot on my revolvers. For ICORE I shot one on my 929. For Steel Challenge I now shoot from a wheelchair and use my S&W 617 in .22 with great luck and my C-More Slideride with a 12 minute dot.

What mount is that?

[AzShooter]

What mount is that?


Allchin mount.

[jetfire]

Allchin mount.

I assume it replaces the rear sight and screws into the same holes?

[AzShooter]

I assume it replaces the rear sight and screws into the same holes?
Yes, that's how it works.

[41magfan]

Allchin/RMR on a N-Frame Smith & Wesson

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/OnGebc.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poOnGebcj)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/BPId6K.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poBPId6Kj)

[backtrail540]

Something cool from southwest precision for those wanting buis for their red dot wheelie.

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[AzShooter]

I'll take those kinds of groups at 15yds offhand all day long, much less 25yds. It looks like the hammer is modified, are you running DA only? If so, well done!

It's an Apex Mass Drive Hammer. It has the capability of single action but I only shoot double action.

[backtrail540]

p/CrT5zSVPoAl

[DaBigBR]

This thread reminded me of my desire for a 986PC 5" with an optic. Damn you, P-F.

[SoCalDep]

p/CrT5zSVPoAl

Here’s a niche.

Were I a revolver manufacturer... I’d be looking to get dots on snub guns. But not the dots we know and love. I want a dot that is the result of too much drinking and poor family planning between an Aimpoint ACRO and a Leupold DeltaPoint Micro.

It needs to be offered from the firearm factory as a semi-permanent component. Battery changes obviously shouldn’t require removal. There rear of the optic should sweep up from the frame where the rear sight sits on a normal snobby and be maybe a 5/8” to 3/4” window. It can be squared or rounded. Don’t care. It will be a “tube” type sight so it will either travel the length of the top strap and angle forward to the bottom at the barrel to reduce snag - or - more preferably, it will go all the way to the end of the barrel with a slight taper and forward slant to ease holstering.

It’s gotta draw smooth and quick from a good pocket holster.

It will be fully enclosed to allow easy maintenance and it will add a snag-free increase of height but not width. Backup sights would be incorporated into the optic and bonus points for adjustability since ammo differences are a thing with snubbies. Backup sights could even be low profile on top of the optic which would be a huge win over obstruction to the optic window. Sight over bore and all that (maybe both— hmmm).

I love my old school revolvers. I have a square-butt 36, a 60, 640 .38, and a 3421PD. If they made a good version of this that was quality and didn’t have a lock I’d get one as the next generation backup gun. I’d put a CTC laser on the grip and feel very happy.