P320 Pro-Cut Slides

[HCountyGuy]

New Pro-Cut slides for the P320 series.

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/06/sig-sauer-announces-p320-pro-cut-slide-assembly-available/#axzz5sB1FuGI4

Looks nifty, and the rear sight isn’t integrated with the optic plate cover.

[MrInox]

As someone who owns a p320c and prefers it to everything else, these new slides look like hammered dogshit. The pro series is how the x carry should've been from the start with the sights actually on the slide instead of the RDS cutout plate. Now the question is "Is making one without the stupid lightning cuts too much to ask?" All i want is an uncut pro series x carry slide like the ones that are on the "LE only" models.

[sharps54]

No way in hell I'd buy one of those, I may but a new VTAC just for the slide though. Currently I'm experimenting with a M17 on a compact (15 rd) frame and am happy except for an OCD type desire to have a separate rear sight...

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Everyday we stray further from the lord’s light.

[John Hearne]

No way in hell I'd buy one of those, I may but a new VTAC just for the slide though. Currently I'm experimenting with a M17 on a compact (15 rd) frame and am happy except for an OCD type desire to have a separate rear sight...

I've been running that setup for my off-duty gun for several years and really like it. The compact butt is short enough to conceal like a dream while still giving you 15+1. I like the extra slide length and as I'm still wed to iron sights, think I shoot it a little better.

[Tokarev]

No way in hell I'd buy one of those, I may but a new VTAC just for the slide though. Currently I'm experimenting with a M17 on a compact (15 rd) frame and am happy except for an OCD type desire to have a separate rear sight...I have a new VTAC R2. I haven't done anything with it yet but I like it.

The original VTAC, as you probably know, was not optics ready. Plus it had a few windows/lightening cuts. I'm not sure why SIG went with that style and wonder how much input Kyle Lamb had on the specs. Anyway, the original is also serrated lines running from the rear to front sight.

The new R2 comes with no lightening cuts and is optic ready. It ships with VTAC sights (and slide logo) but does not have the serrations. It comes with a black optics plate installed. It also appears that the slide's finish might be somewhat different. The R2 seems to have more of a gold hue and the texture of the finish itself seems a little smoother.

Otherwise the barrel and stuff appears identical between old and new.

So if and when I get around to sticking a Delta point on the slide I wonder if the VTAC sights are tall enough to work. I'm thinking probably not. I've kind of been waiting for SIG to release the Romeo 1T or Romeo 2 before looking into mounting an optic.

On a somewhat related note; L&M appears to be able to modify the old SIG 320 RX slides to accept either an RMR or a DP. This is without ruining the slide's ability to use the Romeo 1. I guess he must drill new holes and maybe lengthen the cutout?

On another note; it might be nifty to convert a VTAC R2 into some sort of M17A1 pistol. Buy a coyote X Carry module and send the assembly to AB Prototype to have the manual safety added. The gun would then be, in essence, what the Army should have adopted.

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[sharps54]

I've been running that setup for my off-duty gun for several years and really like it. The compact butt is short enough to conceal like a dream while still giving you 15+1. I like the extra slide length and as I'm still wed to iron sights, think I shoot it a little better.

I used it in a class last weekend, https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?36182-Eastridge-Training-amp-Consulting-(ETC)-Pistol-Skillbuilder-1-amp-2-North-Carolina, and it worked like a charm. I’ve known Bryan a good 20 years, we were stationed at Ft Bragg in the 82nd at the same time, and he put on a really good intro class for new shooters / refresher for experienced ones. Another buddy from back in the day was also in the class shooting a Professional Carry and we found my M17 to be the more accurate of the two. I really like the safety as it is fairly close to a 1911 in feel and gives extra piece of mind when reholstering. With a good holster like the Keeper’s you never notice the full length slide.

[Tokarev]

I really like the safety as it is fairly close to a 1911 in feel and gives extra piece of mind when reholstering.

I like the thumb safety as well although I really haven't shot my M17 enough to really get a good feel for it.

I wonder why SIG doesn't cut all the chassis systems for the thumb safety. And you'd think it would be an easy deal to make some type of plastic module inserts that would plug into the slots in the grip. Pretty much what S&W does on the M&P. That way the user (or the department armorer) could add or remove the thumb safety as desired. It would make the world's most modular pistol just that much more adaptable.


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[sharps54]

I have a new VTAC R2. I haven't done anything with it yet but I like it.

The original VTAC, as you probably know, was not optics ready. Plus it had a few windows/lightening cuts. I'm not sure why SIG went with that style and wonder how much input Kyle Lamb had on the specs. Anyway, the original is also serrated lines running from the rear to front sight.

The new R2 comes with no lightening cuts and is optic ready. It ships with VTAC sights (and slide logo) but does not have the serrations. It comes with a black optics plate installed. It also appears that the slide's finish might be somewhat different. The R2 seems to have more of a gold hue and the texture of the finish itself seems a little smoother.

Otherwise the barrel and stuff appears identical between old and new.

So if and when I get around to sticking a Delta point on the slide I wonder if the VTAC sights are tall enough to work. I'm thinking probably not. I've kind of been waiting for SIG to release the Romeo 1T or Romeo 2 before looking into mounting an optic.

On a somewhat related note; L&M appears to be able to modify the old SIG 320 RX slides to accept either an RMR or a DP. This is without ruining the slide's ability to use the Romeo 1. I guess he must drill new holes and maybe lengthen the cutout?

On another note; it might be nifty to convert a VTAC R2 into some sort of M17A1 pistol. Buy a coyote X Carry module and send the assembly to AB Prototype to have the manual safety added. The gun would then be, in essence, what the Army should have adopted.

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Good to know! I’ll probably end up with a VTAC R2 at which point I’d just cut that frame for the safety and use the M17 trigger.

I haven’t had any issues yet but one concerning thing I read over on the Enos forums was a report of bent ejectors from magazines being forcefully inserted during slide lock reloads. It seems to mainly happen with the 21 rounders...

https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/269368-p320-damaged-ejectors/

[sharps54]

I like the thumb safety as well although I really haven't shot my M17 enough to really get a good feel for it.

I wonder why SIG doesn't cut all the chassis systems for the thumb safety. And you'd think it would be an easy deal to make some type of plastic module inserts that would plug into the slots in the grip. Pretty much what S&W does on the M&P. That way the user (or the department armorer) could add or remove the thumb safety as desired. It would make the world's most modular pistol just that much more adaptable.


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Luckily the frames are inexpensive enough that it isn’t too scary to cut them yourself. I let my buddy Bryan, a 320 armorer, cut my compact frame but it only took a few minutes and to be honest was super straight forward. Tape the frame, hold the M17 frame next to it to trace the cut out on the tape, and make small cuts until the trigger module fits.

[Tokarev]

Good to know! I’ll probably end up with a VTAC R2 at which point I’d just cut that frame for the safety and use the M17 trigger.

I haven’t had any issues yet but one concerning thing I read over on the Enos forums was a report of bent ejectors from magazines being forcefully inserted during slide lock reloads. It seems to mainly happen with the 21 rounders...

https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/269368-p320-damaged-ejectors/Hmm.

I've known that to be an issue with the 1911 but hadn't seen that about the 320.

If and when SIG modifies the ejector it would be nice to see the chassis modified to be useable in 45 Auto. This, along with the ability to add the manual safety, would make the 320 completely configurable. Plus it might save SIG a few bucks over the long haul. Just one chassis piece that can be used for 45, 40, 357 or 9.

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[Texaspoff]

New Pro-Cut slides for the P320 series.

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/06/sig-sauer-announces-p320-pro-cut-slide-assembly-available/#axzz5sB1FuGI4

Looks nifty, and the rear sight isn’t integrated with the optic plate cover.

Well, I don't know what to say about those. I can say I will never own one. Now if Sig could figure out how to add some pearl handle inlays to the 320 frame, you would have a grip to match the flamboyance of those slides. :p


TXPO

[Rc217]

I don’t get it, with all those slide cuts there is no room to engrave punisher skulls and clever comments.

[HCM]

If and when SIG modifies the ejector it would be nice to see the chassis modified to be useable in 45 Auto. This, along with the ability to add the manual safety, would make the 320 completely configurable. Plus it might save SIG a few bucks over the long haul. Just one chassis piece that can be used for 45, 40, 357 or 9.

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Re: 45 - Not gonna happen.

They have been talking about this since the P250. With the adoption of the M17/18 the format is set and the 45acp is dead as far as large LE/GOV sales.

[Tokarev]

I have a 320 chambered in 45. It is a nice handgun. Size is nearly identical to the 9mm version and it has a magazine capacity of 10 rounds.

I don't have a real need for one but I've often thought about buying a compact conversion kit. This would give me a Glock 19-ish sized pistol with Government Model capacity.

With all that being said, I imagine the 45 versions are basically SIG doing us a favor. I doubt the 45 sells well at all and I should just be thankful they make it.

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[HCM]

I have a 320 chambered in 45. It is a nice handgun. Size is nearly identical to the 9mm version and it has a magazine capacity of 10 rounds.

I don't have a real need for one but I've often thought about buying a compact conversion kit. This would give me a Glock 19-ish sized pistol with Government Model capacity.

With all that being said, I imagine the 45 versions are basically SIG doing us a favor. I doubt the 45 sells well at all and I should just be thankful they make it.

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I can see it selling well commercially, especially with the adoption of the M17. The 320 is, in many ways a generation 3/4 version of the P250 and they tried unsuccessfully to make an All caliber chassis for the P250. Plus the bigger 45 chassis leaves open the possibility of a 10mm P320.

[Vista461]

Maybe it’s just me,but I find those slides really unattractive. I don’t mind slide cuts and serrations, but those are ugly to me.

[Rc217]

Maybe it’s just me,but I find those slides really unattractive. I don’t mind slide cuts and serrations, but those are ugly to me.

I think they look ridiculous but I understand everyone has different taste and use for their pistols. What I don’t understand is why they went to the time and money to produce these when they already make a pro model with a slide that more people would buy if given the opportunity.

[HCM]

I think they look ridiculous but I understand everyone has different taste and use for their pistols. What I don’t understand is why they went to the time and money to produce these when they already make a pro model with a slide that more people would buy if given the opportunity.

Agreed. They look like crap and SIG should have chosen a different name to sell these under so they could sell the standard PRO model slides.

[ubervic]

...these new slides look like hammered dogshit.

I literally LOL'd

[Tokarev]

https://youtu.be/Z_Uy7KD-1SA

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[tcba_joe]

Agreed. They look like crap and SIG should have chosen a different name to sell these under so they could sell the standard PRO model slides.

They do look like crap. But they seem to check off the "all the slide cuts" line popular with the IG crowd. Add a threaded rainbow barrel and inforce light, and your up on IG for less than the cost of custom milling.

In reality, SIG needs to offer an a la cart option for P320 from a "custom shop". As well as offer Pro slides (and frankly the whole guns commercially) and M18 slides.

Full "P320 build kits" should also be sold to take advantage of the home build market.

[Wendell]

https://youtu.be/Z_Uy7KD-1SA

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"The_same_weight." :)

[JCN]

"The_same_weight." :)

That’s actually a good thing.

Less weight in the slide can be quite battering and feel snappier.

At least this a cosmetic gimmick that doesn’t hurt performance by being the same weight, unlike some lightening cuts that are cosmetic and hurt performance haha. That’s the worst of both worlds.