Folder Carry Clinch Pick-esque

[Yute]

I am unable to carry a clinch pick concealed as I live in California and have been struggling to find an adequate substitute.

I settled on carrying a Spyderco Cat due to its availability, liner lock, and length (less than 2.5 inches).

I was recently able to get in contact with Black Bear Custom Kydex (http://blackbearck.com/) who designed a sheath based off my specifications for an IWB, Tip Down sheath. I am happy with the result:

https://i.imgur.com/DeH3roI.jpg

I have been running it "upside down" in attempt to mimic a clinch pick:
https://i.imgur.com/AG0TPWD.jpg

I am able to deploy (https://gfycat.com/unconsciousfavoriteattwatersprairiechicken)the knife with a forward grip edge up with either hand though it will never be as smooth as with a clinch pick.

Anyone else find any better solutions?

[runcible]

Where do Californian knife laws fall, as regards to a sheath for carrying an open folder?

[BillSWPA]

Always good to know about creative solutions to various needs as well as the companies that produce them.

[Yute]

Where do Californian knife laws fall, as regards to a sheath for carrying an open folder?


Considered a dirk/dagger which per PC 21310 are illegal to conceal.

They are defined by PC 16470
As used in this part, “dirk” or “dagger” means a knife or other instrument with or without a handguard that is capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death. A nonlocking folding knife, a folding knife that is not prohibited by Section 21510, or a pocketknife is capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death only if the blade of the knife is exposed and locked into position.

[kobuksonhwacha]

There was at least one guy over at TPI running a P'kal in a similar sheath, set up to engage the wave and auto deploy upon opening.

[Yute]

There was at least one guy over at TPI running a P'kal in a similar sheath, set up to engage the wave and auto deploy upon opening.

Great memory (https://www.totalprotectioninteractive.com/forum/forum/main-category/contact-weapons/15681-wave-opening-sheath-hang-ten). Ghetto Medic's setup looked really slick:
https://i.imgur.com/Bn4Rk70.png

Black Bear Custom has some pretty neat auto deploy sheaths for folders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WGM87-VfWw&t=1m59s). Went without the auto deploy feature to keep the setup as slick as possible.

Previously played around with some waved setups including this bondage monstrosity on a Raven Pocketshield:

https://i.imgur.com/24gfYAl.jpg

It worked to a certain degree (https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlusteredJollyCaimanlizard-small.gif) but was always a bit of a pain to reset. In the end I didn't have enough space in my pockets to make a knife accessible enough.

[CLaw]

I'd love to have a sheath that would help deploy a folder. In NC we can't carry a fixed blade. :( I always wondered if it would be legal to carry a pocket knife open in a sheath... I'm guessing the answer is no.


Great memory (https://www.totalprotectioninteractive.com/forum/forum/main-category/contact-weapons/15681-wave-opening-sheath-hang-ten). Ghetto Medic's setup looked really slick:
https://i.imgur.com/Bn4Rk70.png

Black Bear Custom has some pretty neat auto deploy sheaths for folders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WGM87-VfWw&t=1m59s). Went without the auto deploy feature to keep the setup as slick as possible.

Previously played around with some waved setups including this bondage monstrosity on a Raven Pocketshield:

https://i.imgur.com/24gfYAl.jpg

It worked to a certain degree (https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlusteredJollyCaimanlizard-small.gif) but was always a bit of a pain to reset. In the end I didn't have enough space in my pockets to make a knife accessible enough.

[BillSWPA]

I'd love to have a sheath that would help deploy a folder. In NC we can't carry a fixed blade. :( I always wondered if it would be legal to carry a pocket knife open in a sheath... I'm guessing the answer is no.

The Spyderco knives with the Emerson opener as well as Cold Steel knives with the pocket/thumb opening disk generally work well when carried clipped to a pocket.

I have not had the same good results from Emerson waves or from other waved knives using the smaller wave used by Emerson.



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[Chuck Whitlock]

the CRKT folders with the full crossguard, with the clip oriented for tip-up carry, work nicely as wave-style openers, and they are nicely rounded and don't tend to chew up pockets.

https://www.crkt.com/collection/m-16/m16-14zsf-desert-tanto-with-triple-point-serrations.html

I'd like to find e version without serrations, though.

[RevolverRob]

I find the P'Kal carried as intended is extremely fast to deploy without too many issues. Similarly any Delica with a wave or even a zip-tie wave works well.

That said, I bet Dark Star Gear could come up with a slick rig that waved open a P'Kal or Delica, that could carry in the CP position.

In fact, I just took off my CP and traced the sheath, then set the zip-tie waved Kahr Delica I'm carrying today over it and cut it down and modified it for CP-style carry.

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[runcible]

A rigid sheath made for a folder to be held closed and with the pivot deepest in the sheath, can be easily modified for wave-opening upon the draw, as long as it involves grommets.

A bungie cord with the knot grommet-side, running diagonally across the sheath and knife so as to be on the blade-side, then opens as the bungie drags down across the blade spine until it engages the wave.

There's a few other ways to do it, and one can play the game of drilling holes and routing the cord through them, especially if it's a deeper-riding sheath; but the complexity of the build goes up pretty quickly. The above-described method requires manual resetting after each draw, but is retrofittable to the sheaths of most makers.

[Crash41984]

A little late to the party, and I'm not sure if one can still be had, but Emerson was offering several folders awhile back that had real similar lines to a clinch pick. The Persian and the Hatten come to mind. No idea if those mesh with CA's laws, but they are similar.

[SLUZENE]

Deployment sheath made for the P'kal. Shock cord and kydex. Special Circumstances Inc. / Ian Wendt

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