Question for the Beretta Experts

[newt]

Question for you beretta guys:

I’m relatively new to the 92 platform, but loving it. I’d dropped TDA some time ago largely when the old P228’s ended. Been doing mostly Glocks and 1911’s (and an EDC X9) since then. Anyway, I recently picked up some of the new Wilson Berettas and I’m amazed. I seem to, like some others here, shoot them VERY well with very little time on. So well, I’m thinking of moving to them for IDPA and carry. So...To the question:

I’ve got a Wilson Centurion Tactical Vertec and a Wilson 92 compact carry (no action tune) with TJIB that I just installed (wow the tjib seems better than the Action Tune on my data set of 1 and 1). The compact is planned for carry and the centurion probably for IDPA. Is there any reason I can’t just swap the slides? The only difference I can easily see is the shape on top of the Centurion slide is clearly beefier. I want the nicer ameriglo big-orange-ring sights sights for the carry gun, and the FO is fine for the IDPA gun....I think from research here the answer is yes, but thought I’d ask. I see from full size to centurion/compact is NOT fine. But I’m having a hard time finding definitive info on the Centurion to Compact. But there are a few short threads implying it’d be ok?

Thanks all,

Newt

[DAB]

compact and centurion are the same top ends.

centurion and full size are the same bottom ends.

centurion is a cross between a full size bottom end (full size 92) and a shorter compact top end.

compact and centurion top ends should be identical.

[newt]

Thanks DAB that’s what I needed.

N

[FreedomFries]

centurion and full size are the same bottom ends.


Centurion and full size frames have a similar grip length, but they are not exactly the same. My Centurion frame has the same grip length as a full size frame, but it is cut to allow a slightly greater distance of slide travel than the full size frame allows.

[Joe in PNG]

You can do a slide swap between a Compact and a Centurion- I did one last year.
Full size and Compact/Centurion is not doable.

[Bucky]

centurion and full size are the same bottom ends.

No.


Centurion and full size frames have a similar grip length, but they are not exactly the same. My Centurion frame has the same grip length as a full size frame, but it is cut to allow a slightly greater distance of slide travel than the full size frame allows.

This is an important clarification.

[farscott]

This link may be of use as it has good comparison with images of frames and slides: https://berettaforum.net/vb/showpost.php?p=913390&postcount=9

[Dorsai]

Am I correct that if you wanted a rough comparison to to Glocks, with which many people are more familiar, the Centurion is the equivalent of the Glock 45/19X, i.e full size/G17/Ber92/M9 grip and G19/Compact top end and dust cover.

[farscott]

Am I correct that if you wanted a rough comparison to to Glocks, with which many people are more familiar, the Centurion is the equivalent of the Glock 45/19X, i.e full size/G17/Ber92/M9 grip and G19/Compact top end and dust cover.

I think of the Centurion as the Commander if the 92FS/M9 is the Government Model. The Centurion uses the same magazines as the full-size gun but the upper is shorter.

[Bigghoss]

Am I correct that if you wanted a rough comparison to to Glocks, with which many people are more familiar, the Centurion is the equivalent of the Glock 45/19X, i.e full size/G17/Ber92/M9 grip and G19/Compact top end and dust cover.

Yes and no. Yes in that the Centurion uses the compact slide on a fullsize grip. No in that the Centurion is in reality pretty close to a Glock 17 and a regular fullsize is more like a 34.

[AdioSS]

Your swap should be fine.

Some people have run Centurion/Compact length slides on full-size frames, but it isn’t recommended. I did for a while years ago before I got an actual Centurion. And in the most recent frame I picked up I removed the extra material (& then some...) inside that the full-size frame has so I can run a Centurion upper. Even used a Centurion spec takedown lever.