What was your EDC rig from days gone by(e)?

[echo5charlie]

I was going through some of my old gear and had a nostalgic moment, if you will. Going back to 2008 my "on my person" EDC rig was not overly different from now as far as loadout (current stuff in italics):

Glock 23 with OEM night sights, usually no spare magazine, in a Comp-Tac CTAC (G17, Ameriglo Hacks, AIWB w/ spare mag in JMCK rig)
Spyderco Delica 4 (Benchmade Mini Grip)
Leatherman Wave (original version) (deleted from on-person)
Mini Maglite (Streamlight ProTac 1L-1AA)
Zippo lighter (Bic)
iPhone (original) 4 gigs baby! (iPhone 7 Plus)
Desantis leather gunbelt (Spec Ops belt)
generic leather wallet, car keys, etc. (same but Spec Ops THE Wallet Jr)

Anyone have major changes to theirs?

[JAD]

Prior to 2006, concealed carry was not legal where I lived or permitted where I worked. I therefore often carried a subcompact more often than I do now (in those days a 442 or PM-9). Away from work though it was the same lightweight commander variant as it is now.

[Hambo]

Going back to 2008

2008?! Don't burn down your wayback machine going back a whole ten years. ;)

1988: Beretta 92F (M9 LTT) in a 55BN clone by Bianchi (JMCK). Leatherman PST (only option at the time, still carry one). Cell phones were only in Miami Vice (IPhone 6).

Stay off my lawn, junior.

[blues]

In the early 80's it was a DeSantis pancake holster, OWB, with matching cartridge dump pouch. (Model 15 / Model 36 S&W)

In the late 80's it was DeSantis, Safariland or whatever issued leather holsters for Model 19 and later issued Colt Gov't model, S&W 6946 and Glock 19 & 26.

My own purchases for the Glocks were Assault Systems cordura holster (spring clip) which I wore AIWB beginning in 1988...and KyTac kydex holsters for Glock 19 and 26 (and mag pouches) purchased in the mid 90's. AIWB and OWB

Carried the KyTac rigs up until I purchased JMCK, DSG, Mastermind over the last few years.

Renegade, Galco, DeSantis and various other ankle holsters for S&W Model 36 and Glock 26.

Always carried a knife. Beginning in the 90's it was Benchmade and Spyderco...with some customs mixed in. Earlier it was lockback or traditional knife.
Gerber LSTs were issued by "Uncle".

Usually had a cordura wallet I picked up from LL Bean in my back pocket...that thing was indestructible and I carried for a couple decades until I got a nice wallet from Mastermind / Graith.

Various lights from Maglite (and similar), Fenix and other companies until mostly settling on Malkoff for all my needs.

Before that we carried spears.

[BobM]

I used to carry my then issued Security Six in a Bianchi Pistol Pocket with a couple Safariland Split-Six speedloader carriers. Since then I’ve gone through a couple pistols but since 2006 I’ve carried one or another M&P variation in 9mm or 40.

[JHC]

1981 when all I owned was a K-22, K-38 and a 6" Model 57, I carried the big .41 IWB at 3:30 in a suede clip on. But that wasn't EDC because I lived and worked on Ft Lewis. That was offpost, mostly weekends. Luckily it was mostly raining and a lot rain slicker outerwear. LOL

After about a year I got my first 1911 pattern, a Colt Combat Commander .45 lightly tuned by Herbie Jost of Happy Herbie's House of Handguns gunshop in Yelm, WA. What a great guy. What a spectacular pistol.

Also got a Model 58 .41 I switched to from the Model 57.

But once up to speed on the 1911 properly the CC was carried IWB in a Sparks Summer Special.

[texasaggie2005]

1st CCW setup: XD45 fullsize with some Winchester hollerpoints, riding in a SERPA paddle holster.

I look back and cringe so hard.

[echo5charlie]

Prior to 2006, concealed carry was not legal where I lived or permitted where I worked. I therefore often carried a subcompact more often than I do now (in those days a 442 or PM-9). Away from work though it was the same lightweight commander variant as it is now.

I worked for a school district from 1998 - 2008, so carrying concealed was not an EDC thing for me. Embarrassingly, "gun of the day" when I did carry was a thing.

[deputyG23]

Bianchi 8L pancake holster containing a S&W 4" M64 heavy barrel in '81 with a speedloader or two of 125 grain Remington SJHP +P .38s in them in my right front pants pocket. The speedloaders were off duty only. We still had ammo dump pouches until about '85 on the duty belts.

[LJP]

1997 - Sig P220 in a Galco leather strong side belt holster. Pocket knife in right front. Surefire 6P and two spare mags in belt pouches on off side. Shoot me first vest or untucked shirt.

Between now and then, I’ve carried a Kimber Pro Carry, a variety of Glocks, and now an M&P9 2.0. My carry position has gravitated from behind the hip to forward of the hip.

Today - S&W M&P9 2.0 Compact AIWB in a JM Custom kydex holster, off side spare mag in a belt pouch, Streamlight ProTac1L in left front pocket, and a folding knife in right front pocket. I don’t even have a vest anymore, but still typically wear my shirts untucked.

So yeah, there have been a few changes!


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[WDR]

You have to start somewhere.

My very first carry gun was a Kel-Tec P-11. I had two magazines for it, with the pinky extensions. I bought a Comp-Tac IWB kydex holster for it, and the spare mag was carried in a cheap Uncle Mikes single mag pouch with a foam spacer in the bottom to lift the mag enough for quick retrieval. A lot of folks bag on Kel-Tec stuff, but I find that they are a step up from Hi-Point and the like... mine was pretty damn reliable. WWB 9mm was $9.99/100 at Wal-Mart back then, and I burned 200-300 rounds a week through that cheap gun, with very few problems. I learned to shoot the long DAO pull pretty well, despite it being a "staple gun" trigger (an accurate assessment). I carried WBB 147gr JHP, or 127gr +P+ Ranger T. Amazingly, that gun ate a lot of that +P+ load with zero issues.

I eventually traded that gun off for something else.

I've come a long way in carry gear and gun choices since then. But the basics apply no matter what gun or gear you use.

[psalms144.1]

When I started my LE career 19 years ago, I carried an issued P228 (M11) in a Desantis Speed Scabbard. Mag pouches were Don Hume clip ons, and my handcuffs were threaded through my belt - because CDI. My UBER powerful Surefire light with about 100 lumens out the front rode in nylon pouch.

Oddly enough, this gear was plenty good to get me through the early days of the war in Afghanistan with no issues. Not sure how I survived without kydex and molle...

[Rex G]

Hmm. Colt Navy, cap-and-ball, in a cut-down govt-surplus leather rig, tucked under my sash.

OK, seriously: March 17, 1984, my sworn date. No legal on-body handgun carry, in Texas, at that time, for most private citizens. I think the holster was a Bucheimer. Thumb-break retention, FBI-ish cant, cowhide. S&W Model 66, 2.5”, dash unknown, but the current version at that time. Belt, well, I am not sure how early I started using G. Wm. Davis, pre-curved belts, but it was not too long after I started carrying.

Notably, the 2.5” Model 66 was THE off-duty/plainclothes gun, of that day. I was able to sell it for about as much as I had paid for it, new.

I think I had a similar holster for my 4” L-Frames, and soon favored toting a 4” sixgun, which was more stable, not realistically more difficult to conceal, and better for shooting accurately, especially at longer range. To this day, I shoot square-butt revolvers better than round-butt.

I soon upgraded to a Davis DA Challenger holster, for N-Frames. S&W Models 629, 58, and 657.

For a short time, in 1985, HK P7, Bianchi Askins Avenger. A P7 is too grip-heavy to be stable, and the holster did not fit my Davis belts.

I am not going to try to remember every carry rig, but some 20th-Century long-term daily carry guns include Stainless Commander, 1990-1991, SIG P220 “Euro,” 1991-1993, GP100, 1991 to present, 4” K-Frame and SP101, mid-Nineties to present, 5” 1911, mid-Nineties to present. I used a very high-quality nylon Eagle Industries IWB rig, now long-discontinued, to carry several of the revolvers.

[HCountyGuy]

If any of you had any respect for me, this might fix that.

Started carrying in 2010. My equipment when I started was a legacy P226 in an Uncle Mike’s nylon holster with a thumb break. Sometimes carried in a Serpa.

Eventually switched to a .40S&W P229 with the DAK trigger, I think in late 2011. I carried that in a Crossbreed Supertuck as well as an kydex holster from one of the bigger companies. The kydex one was so uncomfortable I never wore it.

Got tired of the DAK trigger so I sold that P229 to buy a newer P229 (E2 grips, long extractor but normal trigger and no SRT). Carried that in the Supertuck and occasionally a Serpa, then in a Gould & Goodrich 3-slot holster with thumb break.

Carried that P229 til July of 2014 when the first of the P320C came out. Carried it in an Alien Gear Cloak Tuck and sometimes a Tagua Leather high-ride holster. Bought a subcompact grip and 12-round mag, rode my compact slide on it.

Sold the P320 in I think 2015 to buy another TDA P229. Started off carrying in an Alien Gear Cloak Tuck 2.0, tried a CCC Shaggy but my gun printed horribly with it (so did the holster). Eventually bought a JMCK IWB 2.0 to wear it with. Also bought a Safariland 537 to wear the gun with.

Traded that P229 in 2017 for a P30 LEM 4.1 and bought a JMCK Wing Claw 2.5. Bought a Mastermind Tactics Radian AIWB holster and then eventually a JMCK Single Pistol Mag Pouch V2. Transitioned to carrying the P30 in a JMCK Wing Claw 2.5.

Sold the P30 at the start of this year to buy a 1989 production P228 and I have a classic JMCK AIWB for that.


Oh and at some point I bought a well-worn (surface) Gen 3 Glock 19 and JMCK Wing Claw 2.5 which I’ve carried intermittently and tend to carry more lately.

ETA:

My current primary EDC

- Gen 3 Glock 19 in a JMCK WC 2.5
- Streamlight ProTac 1L-1AA
- Emerson Kershaw CQC-7K

Plus my wallet and keys.

[theJanitor]

1996 - 1911/Summer special/Spyderco/surefire

2007 - M&P/CCC looper/Strider/surefire
2008 - G17-x300/Threat solutions UCR/strider/surefire

2008 - 1911/Andrews Mcdaniel2/Strider/surefire

2016 - 642/RKBA pocket holster/Folding knife/ surefire

2017 - 1911/SME/folding knife/surefire
2019 - Wilson EDC X9-x300/Phlster/Strider/ surefire

[HeavyDuty]

From memory: 1981, CCW wasn’t legal here but was tolerated if you weren’t a jamoche about it - especially since I was working for one of the big newspapers as a photographer on midnights in shittown. Colt LW .38 Stupid Commander in a Bianchi 3S.

Today: it varies, but is almost always a G26 or 43 in a PJ Customs IWB. If I’m in the hood, I’ll up to a full sized gun (like my 41) in a ALS rig with casual cover.

[echo5charlie]

2008?! Don't burn down your wayback machine going back a whole ten years. ;)

1988: Beretta 92F (M9 LTT) in a 55BN clone by Bianchi (JMCK). Leatherman PST (only option at the time, still carry one). Cell phones were only in Miami Vice (IPhone 6).

Stay off my lawn, junior.

Prior to 2008 I don't like to think about! I started in 1999 with a G22.2 then moved to a Beretta 92FS (actually M9 Special Edition and I still own it) in 2000. 2002 saw a return to Glock with a G26.3. Trial and error a few too many until 2008 when I calmed down. I have had a few relapses of chasing the better mousetrap in regards to pistols in that time....now when I buy a pistol that isn't a Glock I don't rationalize the purchase with "leaning it for carry", but simply for pride of ownership.

I still say the PST/PST II was the best multitool Leatherman ever made.

[fatdog]

1980's, S&W 3" M64 in a Bianchi Bellyband

most of 1990's, Sig P220 or Colt D frame, a variety of leather

Late 90's and onward, G19/26 or G23/32 or deep concealment D frame

Now USP/c LEM mostly or PPS gen 1

[psalms144.1]

Well, if we want to go into the WAY BACK time machine - first "concealed carry" for me was a S&W 686 4" worn in a Bianchi Cyclone cross draw. God only knows how I wasn't arrested repeatedly for that monstrosity. Then I switched to a much smaller P226 - at least this one was strong side. After that a series of Glocks in a series of bad holsters, and a brief foray into a Desert Eagle .44 carried both strong side hip and (sigh), in a fanny pack.

Luckily, I have gotten a LITTLE smarter about guns and gear as time went on...

[Will_H]

... and a brief foray into a Desert Eagle .44 carried both strong side hip and (sigh), in a fanny pack.

Dear Lord, I hope there are pictures of this glorious setup! Practical? Eh. Amazing? YES!

[Medusa]

in around 2000 and for a good span of years thereafter, I carried one of my 92FS in a Kramer IWB 3 carried on a Kramer belt and, if a a spare mag or two, those on Kramer mag carriers. I still have one of those 92s and that holster and have carried both within the last month or so.

Today, I carry a Beretta PX4CC in either a Kramer IWB 3, a JMCK IWB 3, or AIWB in a JMCK Wing Claw 2.5, on a Beltman belt. I'm fooling around with different IWB kydex mag carriers, I have a Vedder but don't love it and am waiting on LMCK units.

(I'm gonna end up getting a Wing Claw 2.5 for my 92 LTT just in case I decide I want to carry that weapon some day, though it's not really super likely with two PX4CCs)

[Totem Polar]

First ever CCW setup: the old 1976 36-1 3" heavy barrel, round butt chief’s special that my dad passed on to me when I turned 21 and got my first permit. Carried IWB behind the hip with a barami hip-grip, and one of the big 3’s “FBI" load. I’ve posted plenty of pics of that gun here before; it still comes out of retirement on occasion.

Spyderco original recipe delica, plus one of the versions modified to left hand carry by Erik Remmen of NW Safari, back when the only way to get a left hand carry spyderco was to make one yourself! I took Erik’s spyderco course back in the early 90s.

Those were the innocent days; no med gear, and an extra HKS with another 5 was considered walking heavy. The only training I could access was stuff like Remmen’s course, and LFI-1 under Mas—all of which still stands up pretty damn well today.

[FNFAN]

First concealed carry was my duty 6.5" M27 in a vertical Safariland shoulder holster.:cool: Next was my duty 4" M66 in a Baker Pancake thumbreak. Then a LW Commander in an Alessi DOJ thumbreak. Then a SIG P245 in an Alessi DOJ thumbreak. Now a Gen4 G23 in a Safariland ALS.

Backup and off duty gun was always a Smith Bodyguard M38 until awhile back when S&W said it had "reached the end of its service life" and replaced it with a 642. I also have a sweet little PPS Gen1 9mm that lives in an iwb.

[ranger]

Colt Commander in 38 Super then a Glock 17. M&P 2.0 Compact 9mm now.

[Joe in PNG]

2002: Started off with a Glock 27 in an Uncle Mike's pocket holster.
2006: Carry rotation of miscellaneous guns (CZ 2075, CZ 75, PPK, S&W Model 15) carried in a variety of cheap or second hand pocket holsters- or not carried for most of the time.
2008: Went to a Baby Browning .25 in an Uncle Mike's pocket holster. Not the best gun, but I always had it with me.
2009: Went to two Baby Brownings, as a search for a spare mag turned up a rough but working extra gun for $130.
2012: Flirted with a Kel-Tec PF-9 (until I shot it), then traded it for a S&W 36 with bobbed hammer in a Brand X leather pocket holster.
2015: Read some of Doc GKR's articles about good snub carry ammo, went to store to get wadcutters, wound up with a Shield 9mm instead.

I'm still mostly carrying that Shield 9mm in a Brand X pocket holster.

[Vista461]

2011 Wisconsin finally got CCW. Didn’t become a cop for another 1 1/2 years.

My first setup was a S&W 4003 in a Theis hybrid style holster. I miss having a 3rd Gen Smith.
2012 brought a M&P 9c, which I still carry pretty often off duty alternating with a Shield 45.

[Cypher]

2002: Started off with a Glock 27 in an Uncle Mike's pocket holster.

You know you're going to hell for that right?

I intended that is a joke I hope you're not offended.

[Cypher]

When I first started carrying I probably wasted two hundred bucks on cheap, no name, nylon holsters trying to avoid laying out seventy bucks for a Galco.

I got my permit in 2007 my first carry gun was a CZ75B, in caliber 40 Smith & Wesson. I either carried it in a Galco Summer Comfort IWB or a Galco CM OWB.

My next gun was a 9 mm Smith & Wesson 6906. I either carried it in a Galco Summer Comfort IWB or a Michael Kohl (local holster maker) OWB.

After that was a Smith & Wesson 4006. I carried it in either a Galco Summer Comfort IWB or a Kramer leather OWB.

After that I went Striker Fired and carried an M&P 9 or an M&P 9C both in Galco CMs.

In 2017 I bought my Glock 19 and I carry it in a Galco CM OWB.

Right now I have a Glock 26 in my pocket and it's in a Blackhawk Tech wear pocket holster.

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If I ever replace my Galco I'm going to consider the Safariland ALS

[Joe in PNG]

You know you're going to hell for that right?

I intended that is a joke I hope you're not offended.

Shooting that SOB was fairly hell in itself!

[Cypher]

Shooting that SOB was fairly hell in itself!

When I worked for G4S I carried an M&P 40. I really wanted to like that gun but I never did. And I noticed even with a full size gun that we would go to training ranges and qualification ranges and after a 50-round box with that gun it wasn't fun to shoot anymore.

I own an M&P 9 and there is a noticeable difference between the two.

[Bucky]

My first CCW was a G27 in a cheap glove leather holster. So many guns and holster combos since then.

[M2CattleCo]

Springfield Custom Carry in a Milt Sparks VM-II.

A lightly massaged by Novak Browning Hi-Power in a Milt Sparks VM-II.

S&W 442-2 no lock in a leather AIWB.

Glock 17K in a VM-II.

Sig P239 9mm in a VM-II.

Glock 19 Gen5 in a Milt Sparks Nexus.

[gtae07]

When I first got my carry license in 2007 I had a Taurus PT-111 MilPro in a Bianchi leather holster. Eventually that gave way to a P3AT in a Desantis Superfly pocket holster. I later sold the Taurus.

In 2017 I wisened up. Moved to a P320 until dropgate, and now a G19 as my regular carry.

[Leroy Suggs]

Way back yonder-Colt Govt. Mex carry

Little later on- Colt Govt. in Thad Rybka summer special type

Still later-Colt Commander in Rybka

And then - Glock 17 Milt Sparks SS
Same 17 in VM2

Later still- G19 in DSG aiwb

And now - G19 in JRC Holsters OWB

Most of those accompanied by a J in left front pocket.
:D:D:D

[entropy]

Mid 80’s Dan Wesson 15-2 (2 1/2”). Some kind of leather rig
1995-ish G19. Various unknown/unremembered holsters. (I do recall a Fobus..lol)
Early-mid 2000’s P229, BHP, USPc with various increasing quality leather. (Discovered Milt Sparks and Garrity)
2010-2016 M&P, USPc
2017- Started to dabble in revolvers. Got older and much more lazy. SP101 2.5”. AWIB with Galco Tuck

Various folding knives, mostly Spyderco. Found a CRKT Ignitor T in about 2010. Still carry that.

[RoyGBiv]

NC CC passed in 1995, IIRC, and I first got a packing permit in about 97. Back then the list of concealable, reliable, semi-autos was slim. As were CC holster selections.

My first CC pistol was a .40 cal Star Firestar (http://www.star-firearms.com/firearms/guns/firestar/), in Starvel (Nickel) finish. Carried in a Thunderwear (https://www.thunderwear.com/) holster (that's almost embarrassing to admit :o), a belly band or a thin leather clip holster (AIWB, of course).

[okie john]

Late 70's: 4" S&W M-13 in a Bucheimer thumb-break pancake holster, sometimes a 4" M-29 also in a thumb-break pancake rig.
Early 80's: Not much since I was on active duty at Ft. Bragg.
Mid 80's: Colt Gold Cup in a Milt Sparks Summer Special. 1-2 spare mags.
Late 80's-early 90's: Browning Hi-Power in a Milt Sparks Yaqui Slide, sometimes the same 4" M-29 that I carried in the late 70's.
Early 90's-2010: Lightly customized Colt Mark IV Series 70 1911 in a Galco Askins Avenger, Milt Sparks Executive Companion, or Kramer Vertical Scabbard. Sometimes a J-frame 38 in a bellyband, and a 2 1/2" Model 19 for a few weeks when I broke my collarbone and was worried about racking the slide one-handed (the 1911 wore Novaks).
2010-date: Some flavor of 9mm Glock, usually a G19 or a G17 cut to take G19 mags, more recently a G43. Holsters have all been Kydex except for a very brief flirtation with a Serpa at the very beginning.


Okie John

[RevolverRob]

2006 - Ruger P95 in a Galco Matrix snap-on “bikini” style holster. Still have both.
2007 - Colt Agent 3rd Issue in a Uncle Mike’s pocket holster.
2007 (late) - first 1911 (Rock Island Armory) in a cheapo hybrid IWB someone had given me. Later replaced with a Galco IWB (Summer Comfort)
2008-2011 - various 1911s in the same Galco IWB and a Smith 642 in a pocket holster or Don Hume JIT.
2011 - Sold all my 1911s and went to a Smith 3913 in a Lobo snap attachment pancake (rig I wore when I got married). Same 642.
2012-2014 - All revolver GP100 in a Rafter S IWB or Kydex OWB, Smith 64-3 4”, Colt 3” Detective Special, 2” Cobra, 2” Agent, 642 - etc.

2014 - 2018 - Moved from Texas to Chiraq - first tried a Beretta 92 (in a belt slide holster I have that fits most things), then went back to the GP100, then HK P30 LEM. I never could find a gun, carry method, compromise I could both shoot and conceal well.

2018 - Present - Back to 1911s and Snubs! Colt, Kimber, and STI are the current 1911/2011 holsters:

Tucker Cover-Up
Milt Sparks VMII
Various Safarilands (competition rigs)
Four different Red Nichols holsters (IWB, IWB/Pancake Hybrid, OWB Avenger, OWB Paddle)

Colt Cobra 2” (‘72 vintage) is the snub. Holsters:

Blackhawk Pocket
Hume JIT
Colt Branded (likely Buchheimer) upside down shoulder rig
Alessi Talon Plus

For the first time since ~2008-2011, I’m very happy with my concealment and shooting in my guns. I’d call this a sign that I need to stop screwing around and stick to snubs and 1911s. I MIGHT try a Colt Mustang/Sog P238/whatever to replace the snub - just to simplify my manual of arms training, but I have’t done it yet.

[Tamara]

1994 behind the gun store counter: Glock 23 with stock plastic sights, stuffed full of Cor-Bon 135gr JHP and carried in a Bianchi PDQ OWB holster on some shitty belt from The Gap.

[RoyGBiv]

Cor-Bon

Memories! :cool:

[rjohnson4405]

2008 - Used (certified) Sig 229 (.357 Sig!) in a shitty Don Hume (with thumb snap) IWB strong side holster with Don Hume mag pouch. Always put Gold Dots in everything, still do.

Not the worst way to start, but definitely bought into a lot of the hype. Very lucky that there was solid information already posted online. I remain an irredeemable.357 Sig fanboy...

[Vista461]

Glock 23 with stock plastic sights, stuffed full of Cor-Bon 135gr JHP
I had the same gun/ammo combo for my HD setup back in the mid 90’s. I think I still have like half a box of the CorBon laying around. 😂

[EVP]

Hk45c in a Sparks VMII.

Honestly there could of been a lot worse choices.

[Chuck Whitlock]

Owned a lot of guns since I was 17, but 1st legal EDC as a sworn LEO was a .40 BHP in a Don Hume IWB clip holster w/thumbreak in '97. I bought a .40 Firestar in Starvel as an understudy is some no name holster. A new job in '99 ushered in the Glock 23, which remained (partly by choice but mostly by agency edict), backed by a 27, until 2014. Some Hume IWB rigs, followed by an Andrews McDaniel II in'02. A Kramer pancake rig for the 27. Sights on the Glocks ranged from plastic factory > XS Big Dots > Ameriglo.
2014 saw a 9mm conversion barrel in the 23, along with CCC kydex and a Sparks SSII. Then the current P250c in CCC Uno backed by a Kahr K9 in JM kydex.
Belts went from random garbage to 12 years with the same Sam Andrews gunbelt to Wilderness FF. I've got a Magpul Tejas belt for looking fancy.

[KPD]

In 2008 it was a SIG P229 .40 in a Blade Tech IWB holster. BUGs were S&W 37, 442, 640 usually carried in a pocket and ankle holster. IIRC there was a Ruger LCR .38 somewhere in there also.

In 1993 it was a S&W 686 on duty and a SIG P226 in a Milt Sparks Executive Companion off duty.

[Grey]

VP9 with some HP I got free with the gun in a JMAC holster on some cheap leather belt.

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[JSGlock34]

I had a nylon shoulder holster designed by Jerry Ahern for my S&W 5903. Egads.

Used the Glock brand holster and magazine pouch for a bit with the Glock 23 I bought in 1999.

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[echo5charlie]

Used the Glock brand holster and magazine pouch for a bit with the Glock 23 I bought in 1999.

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When I got my first commercial pistol, a G22, this was my setup as well. $17 (IIRC) for both holster and mag pouch was a lot cheaper than the $40-ish for just a leather holster to a poor kid. I still have a few of these around, they work.

[echo5charlie]

Owned a lot of guns since I was 17, but 1st legal EDC as a sworn LEO was a .40 BHP in a Don Hume IWB clip holster w/thumbreak in '97. I bought a .40 Firestar in Starvel as an understudy is some no name holster. A new job in '99 ushered in the Glock 23, which remained (partly by choice but mostly by agency edict), backed by a 27, until 2014. Some Hume IWB rigs, followed by an Andrews McDaniel II in'02. A Kramer pancake rig for the 27. Sights on the Glocks ranged from plastic factory > XS Big Dots > Ameriglo.
2014 saw a 9mm conversion barrel in the 23, along with CCC kydex and a Sparks SSII. Then the current P250c in CCC Uno backed by a Kahr K9 in JM kydex.
Belts went from random garbage to 12 years with the same Sam Andrews gunbelt to Wilderness FF. I've got a Magpul Tejas belt for looking fancy.

I briefly owned a .40 BHP back in 2009. That recoil spring was.......interesting.

[mtnbkr]

I've been CCWing since 2000 and mostly carrying the same kind of gun, a S&W J-Frame.
First, it was an old pre-36 2" in a leather OWB holster.
Then I carried a KT P32 in my pocket for a while.
Then I had a very brief dalliance with a Kahr K9 in a leather OWB holster.
Then back to the pre-36 in OWB or P32 in my pocket until 2005 when S&W had that run of 37-2 j-frames with the forged parts and bobbed hammer. That has been my default CCW ever since. Most of that time it was in a pocket holster or leather OWB.
In 2013, I picked up my first Glock, a Gen3 G19. I've experimented with a few OWB holsters, but have since settled on an AIWB model.
In 2017, I started AIWBing my J-frame. I no longer use OWB or pocket carry for CCW at all.

I'd prefer to carry the G19 primarily, but it's not always comfortable or as cleanly concealable due to me having a bit more belly than I should. It's more of a cool weather CCW as it conceals much easier under a flannel shirt or coat than a thin warm-weather cover garment.

Belts:
I was quick to adopt a "good" gun belt (good meaning better than dept store). First one was a Desantis or some other gun-culture brand, I forget. Once it wore out, I got a custom belt from Rafter S (brown elephant hide, still have it) with a matching holster for my GP100 (and later a similar holster for the Kahr K9). Later, upon deciding I need a black belt, I got one from Beltman (still have that one too). My latest belt acquisition is a Graith.

Chris

[oldtexan]

My first carry setup was in the late '70s: a 6" S&W M28 with Pachmayr stocks in a Rogers shoulder rig ( leather, nylon, and velcro). Ammo was a CCI .357 load with 140 gr HPs. I believe I carried extra ammo in a dump pouch attached to the weak side of the rig. Still don't know how I managed to conceal it under a suit coat. That lasted about a year.

[MRW]

When I started carrying in 2005 or so, it was a G36 in a Fobus holster. I must have learned my lesson quickly because within a year, I moved to a G19 or G26 depending on the weather. It has predominantly been those pistols but I did detour around 2011 - 2012 and tried an HK P2000 in .40. I wanted to try the LEM trigger. It wasn't bad but the combination of different trigger and snappier round didn't translate to better shooting on my part.

I've used various IWB holsters of various quality until I've settled on J.M Custom Kydex OWB holsters.

[Nephrology]

Gen 3 Glock 19.... to gen 4 glock 19. I still carry the same Glock 26 I bought after getting my carry permit in 2010. I also have more 9mm glocks in other sizes, too.

I guess the biggest change would be going from strongside IWB -> AIWB roughly around 2011-12.

[jandbj]

Early 90’s a variety of jframes with a Barami hipgrip & Pachmayr grip adapter. 2 or 3 Speed strips in pockets.

Switched to IWB glock in 40 or 9 in the late 90’s, been consistently AIWB with a 19 or 26 for the past 5 years.

[JonInWA]

My first serious concealed carry pistol was my SIG-Sauer P225, which was carried in a Kramer horsehide paddle OWB or a Galco Royal Guard IWB; for magazines I used a Wilderness single magazine horizontal flapped pouch, or a Wilderness "Double Ugly" double magazine pouch.

While I've pretty much transitioned to kydex holsters and pouches for my EDC, I'd still be quite comfortable with that initial set-up. Ironically, today I'm carrying my 92D in my Kramer #2 horsehide IWB, and the reload magazine is carried in an Olen kydex pouch.

Best, Jon

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Back to 1993. It was a SW 442 in a Uncle Mike's pocket holster and my car keys and change. Then I started some training and down the path of a Glock 19 and the rest of the stuff.

[vcdgrips]

All dates are approximate

Pre 2003 ish in training enviroments-Kimber Pre Series I Custom Carry or Glock G17/19 in a ichthus marked Blade Tech IWB/Bladetech or Glock mag pouches/Surefire 6P(upgraded bulb as available)/Spyderco Delica/Endura

2004-2005 Same set up for CCW
March 2005-Glock 35 in same setup as above
March 2007-2009 Glock 35 in Raven OWB with TLR1
March 2009 to date-AIWB with G35/34/19 or 1911 in CCC Looper/Shaggy or Keepers holster/Quark 123 light/Spyderco folder/Clinch Pick/CCC or Glock mag pouches.

[LSP552]

Late 70s thru early 80s - lightly tweaked Colt 1911 Government and Combat Commander
80s after SA pistols banned for plainclothes and off duty use - 2 1/2” 66 and the. 3” model 65

Mid 80s to early 90s- SIG P226 and P225

90s - various 9mm Glocks

Early 2000s - still Glocks

Mid 2000s - 2008 LSP retirement back to P226 and P239

Post 2008 - Mostly SIGs with a Beretta and Glock mix.

Leather holsters for the most part, except kydex with the lighter Glocks and the 92C.

[03RN]

Beretta M9 in safariland 6004 at 18
Turned 21 in 05
Springfield milspec in a locally made kydex iwb. Similar to a summer special. Occasionally in a fully engraved El Paso Saddlery shoulder holster. Did that for 3 years
Occasionally a detective special in a bianchi horsehide aiwb holster.
G19, p226, cw9 for various amounts of time. Then a Springfield stainless champion loaded, then a 4" Redhawk in a Kramer horsehide scabbard for a year. B92 for a while, then a compact then a Springfield loaded for a couple years.
Now a 4" m19 in a jmcustom aiwb holster.

[MD7305]

2005 - my first off duty gun was an HK USPc 40 (heavily influenced by Jack Bauer) in a Galco leather IWB. Spyderco Delica.
2007- Sig 229SAS DAK, Comp-Tac CTAC. Spyderco Delica Wave. (Sigforum phase)
2009 - G19, Raven Concealment Phantom, Spyderco Delica Wave, Extra magazine. (Get off the X phase)
2011-G23, CCC Shaggy, Spyderco Delica Wave, extra magazine, Streamlight ProTac1. (Found pistol-training and pistol-forum)
2015-G22k, JMCK AIWB, Spyderco PM2, extra magazine, Streamlight ProTac1.
2017-M&P9 2.0 Compact, 5Shot SME, Spyderco PM2, extra magazine, Streamlight ProTac1.

There's probably an untold number of impulsive changes or flavor of the month guns over that timeline but these are the primary guns I carried. 2011 was kind of my "awakening" where I began a focused effort on training vs. collecting/buying.

[1slow]

1980s
1911 .45acp Sparks or Executive @ 3:00 right hand
S&W J frame .38 Special in left front pants pocket, enclosed, bobbed or shrouded hammer.
2 - 4 x 1911 spare mags, 2 speed strips.
Fixed blade 5" - 7" blade@ 9:00
Locking folder in left front pants pocket.

[ssb]

First was a Glock 19 Gen 2 in a RCS Vanguard 2 AIWB, later upgraded to a CCC Shaggy. Then a P30 in a JMCK AIWB, followed by a P226 in a JMCK, then back to a Glock 19 but in a Keeper. Stayed Glock but went to a Glock 17 in an Eidolon, changed holsters to a JRC CDA-II, then a DSG Orion. Went to a P30 in a 5-Shot Leather SME, then recently transitioned to an optics ready P320 in a Tenicor Velo.

I bounced around way too much, but the 320s are the gun for the foreseeable future. The one update I see is an MRDS, hopefully this year.

[GJM]

In the 90’s, it was a Wilderness belt, and a Glock 23 in a Mad Dog IWB Kydex holster.

[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

Mid '90's a gov. model in a Sparks SS IWB then a commander sized 1911 in a smaller SS & both hung on a local sourced leather belt.

[Poconnor]

My first carry gun was a Springfield 1911 Gov worked over by Wayne Novak’s shop in a Milt Sparks roadrunner holster sparks belt and mag pouch. Then I decided I wanted to be a police officer and I figured I would not be able to carry a 1911 on duty; so I switched to a Glock 21 in a Kramer IWB, belt and mag pouch. The first time I put the Glock in the Kramer holster I couldn’t get it back out. I learned to put the handgun in a ziploc bag and oil the outside of the bag when I get a new Kramer holster. Greg Hamilton showed me how to press the welt of a Kramer holster against a table to loosen it up when new. Then I got hired as a police officer and was issued a Colt 1911. I ordered a sparks 55BN straight drop and a heritage IWB when I got my first paycheck. Next I bought two Kramer pocket holsters for a S&W 642. Eventually I traded the Glock 21 for a Glock 19 in a Kramer IWB.

[Zeke38]

Been carrying concealed since 1970 when I became a LEO. First CCW I carried was a Charter Arms Undercover 38, sold to me by an old beat cop.

Since then it's been a long trail. My second CCW was a Smith 19 2.5". Today it is either a Kimber K6s 2" that I love or a Springfield EMP 4" which I enjoy immensely.

I have a K9 Kahr that while heavy is a tremendous shooter. Carry a reload for each weapon and a pocket knife by Kershaw..

I have a new Colt Cobra and it is packed in winter when the clothing is a bit more concealing as the only grip I like on the Cobra is Hogue either rubber or wood. The 19 has been retired.

PS: I really enjoy the Cobra, need a IWB for it.

Carried Bianchi exclusively for decades as they always had left handed rigs in stock. Milt Sparks later on and today Crossbreed, Lobo and a couple JIT slides from Don Hume.

[xray 99]

I turned 21 in 1982 and obtained a carry permit. My first rig was a S&W M13 carried in a Bianchi pistol pocket - Model 3S.

[Drang]

Stock Colt Combat Commander in a Tommy Pack. Eventually I picked up a Don Hume IWB for it.

[farscott]

1995: Weigand Combat Ruger SP-101 "Tame the Beast" in a Kramer IWB#2 on a Kramer belt. Bianchi speed-strip in left-side (weak) front pocket.

1997: Robar NP3-finished HK P7M8 in a Kramer IWB#1-1/2 and offside pouch on a Kramer belt.

2000: Robar Colt Lightweight Stainless Commander in a variety of holsters, culminating in a Sparks VM-2 on a Kramer belt. Dual Galco magazine pouch.

[Drifting Fate]

1990 - S&W 4506 in a Bianchi thumbreak of some sort, spare mag in a Safariland "clip" (if you saw it, you would know what I mean."
1993'ish - .45 Stainless Colt Combat Commander in a Bianchi IWB, think it was called the "pistol pocket" but would swear to it, spare mag in a leather Bianchi pouch. Later switched to an OWB Bianchi Askin's Avenger (Milt Sparks 55BN clone.)
1994/1995 - .45 blued Colt Gov't in a Milt Sparks 55BN w/matching dual mag pouch on my first honest-to-God gun belt, a Mitch Rosen offering that would work today if it hadn't mysteriously shrunk. Sometimes used a Mitch Rosen ARG when I wanted lower-profile, as well as a first run of his Surefire 6P/magazine pouch (think Spier Off Side?).

Those years were interspersed with Browning Hi-Powers (9mm & .40), S&W K-frames of various flavors, then to a Glock 35, then a Glock 19, and now a S&W 9mm Shield in a JM Custom Kydex OWB more often than not. Somewhere in there was a CZ-75B.

Waiting on a 9mm Nighthawk GRP Commander, already have a Milt Sparks Summer Special II for it, just need to order a JM Custom Kydex OWB, some matching kydex mag pouches because JM really makes superb products, and I'll have come nearly full circle.

[sparkyfender]

Years ago, when I was younger and poorer, I suddenly had an unpleasant reason to start carrying a handgun, so I applied for my License to Carry.

Took my available rainy day money and drove to Wal Mart, bought a new stainless Rossi revolver in .38 Special, along with 50 FMJ rounds and 50 hollow points of some brand I don't remember. {Yep, back when Wal Mart sold handguns in this State. I was lusting after a Colt Officer's in their case, but it was beyond my reach $$ wise}

A stop at a local bait shop scored me an Uncle Mike's nylon holster and I started carrying the revolver under an untucked shirt. Far from optimum, but I was legally armed, and the Rossi was pretty darn good gun.

I've carried quite of few different guns in the interim, my favorite was probably an H&K P7 police trade in from Europe that I carried for several years. Right this moment I am toting an HK USPc 9mm in a Ryan Grizzle holster.

[Drang]

Years ago, when I was younger and poorer, I suddenly had an unpleasant reason to start carrying a handgun, so I applied for my License to Carry.

Took my available rainy day money and drove to Wal Mart, bought a new stainless Rossi revolver in .38 Special, along with 50 FMJ rounds and 50 hollow points of some brand I don't remember. {Yep, back when Wal Mart sold handguns in this State. I was lusting after a Colt Officer's in their case, but it was beyond my reach $$ wise}

A stop at a local bait shop scored me an Uncle Mike's nylon holster and I started carrying the revolver under an untucked shirt. Far from optimum, but I was legally armed, and the Rossi was pretty darn good gun.
I'm amazed you didn't get kil't in th' streetz...

[ragnar_d]

Aside from the occasional pocket carried J-Frame or .380 (more often than not it's a J-frame), my EDC hasn't gone through too many evolutions:
2006: My first carry setup as a young/dumb engineering student was an XD-45 Service loaded with 230gr +P Hornady TAP in a Crossbreed of some flavor (even though I was shooting a G34 in USPSA). The light I carried was a Surefire G2 and I carried some sort of cheapo S&W "SWAT" folder. It was college so my options were limited.
Late 2008: Ditched the XD-45 for an XD-45 Compact (still young and dumb) and upgraded to 230gr Winchester Ranger Bonded (same holster).
2009: I figued since I was getting a lot of trigger time on my G34 in USPSA/3-gun, I should have a Glock for EDC. So I picked up a Gen 3 G19 and wholsale changed out my setup. I had Warren 2-dot sights, CTC grips and an X300 on the G19 and was using RCS Phantom and Phantom LC holsters with tuckable IWB hardware, a Comp-Tac single clip-on magazine pouch. My ammo upgraded to 127gr +P+ Ranger and my light upgraded to a Surefire E2DL as well.
2012-13 (ish): Everything is still the same but my stash of 127gr Ranger is burned up so I switch to 147gr HST
2016/17: I dropped a bunch of weight and could carry AIWB so I added a SCD to the same G19 I've been carrying since 2009, sitched the X300 and switched over to a JMCK AIWB Wing Claw 2.5 and an AIWB mag pouch. I haven't changed too much since then save for swapping to a set of Ameriglo Hackathorn sights to replace the dead Warren sights last year. My knife of the day is usually a SOG Flash II, Gerber Dime, or Gerber EAB and my EDC lights are a Pelican 1920 for a task light and a Streamlight 2L-X for "social" purposes.

The only changes I'm looking to make anytime soon is to get a G34 length holster with DCC clips and cut for an RDS should I decide to go down the optics route and a new 18650 powered light with a bit more throw/hot spot to replace the 2L-X.

[Duelist]

My first “Carry Rig” back in the day was a Star Firestar M40, in a leather IWB I made by copying magazine pictures of 1911 summer special rigs. Carried my only spare magazine in my offside front pocket.

[ubervic]

My first "EDC rig" was an HKP2000sk in a Crossbreed Supertuck carried at 4 o'clock. I had just begun carrying, I couldn't shoot or handle the pistol well at all, and I didn't know anything.

A year or so after that lame beginning, I had begun to notice repeated online references to "AIWB." Once I'd figured out what that was, I was astonished. People voluntarily choose to carry a loaded firearm down the front area of their pants?! What kind of craziness is this?!!!

After much reading of personal accounts, I took the plunge in 2012, purchasing a JMCK AIWB holster for my MP9FS. Firearm choice has shifted, but mode of carry remains the same.

[Amp]

1996-Novak tuned Colt 5".45acp Government Model in a Milt Sparks Executive Companion IWB. 2 spare 8rd mags on left hip in a Galco dual mag pouch.

2019-Wilson Combat 5" .45acp CQB in a Milt Sparks Executive Companion IWB or a Raven Concealment Phantom OWB. 2 spare 8rd mags on left hip in a Raven Concealment dual mag pouch.

[Jeffw78]

My first edc was a 1911. A rock island 1911 no less. I put a Dawson FO front sight on it and carried it in a Galco V-Hawk at about 330. Man i thought i was it, lol. I probably had a 3 second or more draw and all of my shooting was done at 7 yards.


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[Rex G]

To bring my history into the 21st Century, I used a G. Wm. Davis Security to tote several 1911 pistols, from as early as the mid-Eighties, to 2002, at which time my only remaining 1911 was a Les Baer TRS, with FCS, which snagged the cowhide. If my newest 1911, without FCS, proves reliable, the old Davis Security may see use, again, if I can find it.

The Davis Security can be thought of as an improved Bruce Nelson/Milt Sparks Summer Special, with a short/medium-ish sweat guard and two, rather than just one, belt loops. The Sparks Summer Special II added the second belt loop, and the short/medium-ish sweat guard, which does not imply a knock-off/rip-off; I believe that all of these gentlemen knew each other, and believed that a rising tide raises all boats.

In 2002, when I got away from using 1911 pistols on duty, due to the then-mandated, stupidly-silly-canted Safariland 070 making a proper firing grip problematic, I bought Blade-Tech kydex OWB to carry the duty Glock off the clock, but soon gravitated toward Ruger revolvers for most personal-time carry. The quick solution for holsters was left and right Galco Concealables, followed by left and right Milt Sparks PMKs, a Kramer Vertical Scabbard, and an Alessi ankle rig. I finally found a Glock I liked, for some personal time carry, the G29, toted in a Galco Concealable.

In late 2004, I switched to a SIG P226R DAK duty pistol, realizing much better natural accuracy potential. I still tended to keep toting the revolvers during personal time. In late 2006, I added a non-railed P229, toted in a Josh Bulman FDS, which became my default primary personal-time pistol, until about 2012, when my aging right hand was really hurting when firing .40 Snap & Whip. Starting in 2012, I reverted to toting my Les Baer TRS during personal time, as moderate amounts of .45 ACP, fired from all-steel, full-sized 1911 pistols, was and is OK. As the TRS’ FCS snagged cowhide, I used Blade-tech kydex.

I added a G17, and phased-in a pair of Gen4 G19 pistols, experimenting with various rigs, culminating in JMCK and Tenicor OWB Kydex rigs. In 2015, a change in weapon policy allowed 9mm primary duty pistols, and the 9mm Glocks became my duty pistols. In 2016, another weapon policy change allowed me to again tote a 1911 on duty, in the newer standard duty rig, the Safariland 6360, a GOOD duty holster for 1911 folks.

Since retiring in early 2018, I have been experimenting with multiple carry rigs, and experimenting with a wider range of weapons. Time will tell where this all settles.

I have all but given-up trying to carry full-width Glocks AIWB. Full-length, duty-sized handguns are problematic for IWB, or any high-ride holster, due to aging shoulders.

I have ordered a lefty Kramer MSP paddle holster, for my new-to-me S&W Model 64-2 snubgun. I already have a right-hand Kramer MSP for G19-sized Glocks, which I have occasionally used, so I know the design is valid. With my right shoulder being gimpier than my left, it is possible that “primary” may shift to the left side.

This does not cover everything in my carry rig history, but hits the high points, at least.

[pangloss]

I started carrying in 2009. My first CCW pistol was a Gen3 Glock 26, and I bought a Garrett Silent Thunder IWB for it (which was actually marketed by Tucker Gunleather). I tried carrying at 4:00 for almost a year, but AIWB just works much better for me. Fortunately that little holster works equally well in either position. Since then I've gotten some Glock 19s and occasionally bump up to a G17. I also have a G43 and a J-frame for pocket carry. As for other holsters, I have some made by Dale Fricke, Dark Star, and JM Custom. A Gen5 G19 in a JM Custom AIWB 2.0 is what I carry most often often now. I still carry the G26+Garrett combo pretty often--like earlier today. Given how many awful guns and holsters there are, I think I was extremely lucky to hit upon a combination that I still find completely acceptable after ten years of concealed carry.

[Gray01]

I started in a communist state so the premise of a handgun was off limits. I started my firearm history as a teenager with my Dad’s Type 99 Arisaka (with Chrysanthemum and flip up AA sights). This was taken from the man who tried to kill the man who brought it home. I eventually acquired my first personally owned handgun after military service.

Starting in the early 70’s I went with an H&K P9S in .45 ACP; at that juncture (prior to the development of modern handgun projectiles that eliminates practical differences) I would not depart from the .45 of my own volition. Duty issue started as 1911, but that was rapidly eliminated by administrative hoplophobia (Condition 1 hysterics) and everyone was relegated to revolvers. I still carried the P9 as the off-duty EDC, with a self-fabricated leather OWB holster very similar in fashion to John McPhee’s “Condom”.

Knives were Buck folders and a Gerber Mark II. Flashlights were dismal; we were still in the “Kel Light” era. (Don’s(LASD) lights paved the way for Tony Maglica, and then coming full circle, his son became an LEO for the home town of Mag Lights.)

Fast forward a year or so and back into 1911’s. I went from that to a P226, then into a “Pilot Model” 4506 (hand-rolled by S&W as the 3rd Gen but still holding the 645 rollmarks). I carried that in a Famous Jackass Leather Company shoulder rig (long story, but that became the Galco), with two magazines and a Cold Steel Tanto attached to the offside magazine carrier.

Then Peter Kokalis introduced us to the Austrian wonder 9, and I bought one of the first imported into the U.S.

DoJ (Department of Technology Assessment) eventually declared it to be DA action which paved the way for agency authorization as OK for duty use. Stayed with G’s since then (early mid-80’s) until a short and unpleasant experience with the first generation M&P dead trigger problem.

Moved into Surefire for lights during that time, with Randall, Cold Steel, and Hastings knives. Here is the Hastings:

38477

Back to G’s until now, and avidly studying the concept of the M&P 2.0 manual safety with an RDS as the next potential move.

[BN]

Through most of the 1980's it was a .32 ACP Walther PPK in a home made boot holster. If I though I needed more power, it was a Star PD Mexican carry. ;)

[Darth_Uno]

Carried a Govt 1911 in a Versamax clone, as was fashionable at the time. But, never was crazy about 4:00 carry. Switched to a Dan Wesson CBOB in a Summer Special clone modified for appendix carry. This was mid-2000’s, I carried appendix before it was cool. I wasn’t particularly knowledgeable or wise or ahead of the curve, I just knew it worked better for me.


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[perlslacker]

my first carry gun was a Sig P6 (I turned 21 around the time they were $320) in a Comp-Tac CTAC, carried at 4:30.

Over the years I switched to appendix, switched to striker fired, then BACK to DA/SA. New EDC is a PX4CC in a Keeper. I've also switched from leather belts to nylon.

I've added a Leatherman multitool and a flashlight. My wallet has gone from a duct tape wallet, to a wallet made out of a tie, to a Saddleback leather billfold. I've added a pocket comb because I started cutting my hair, and I stuck an ASP Key Defender on my keys.

[HRoark]

My first carry gun was a P7M8 in a Del Fatti holster. I would probably still be carrying it if HK was still making them.