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Mr_White
04-25-2019, 02:36 PM
Week 318: How Small A Target In Two Seconds?

Results may be posted until May 26th, 2019.

Designed by: Gabe White
Range: 7 yards
Target: Shooter's choice, see below
Start Position: Holstered or ready, see below
Rounds Fired: Varies

This drill focuses on exploring how small a target we can hit pretty reliably, within two seconds at seven yards.

Set up your initial target at seven yards and your par time for two seconds. Shooter's choice of targets: 8" circle, USPSA lower A-zone, head box (6x6"), 3x5", USPSA upper A-zone, 2" circle, 1" square, and others are all acceptable. At the start signal, draw and shoot one shot at the target. If your range does not allow you to draw from a holster, begin from the ready position of your choice.

Try to start with a target you can be successful on, even if it is larger than you would like (entire silhouette?), and progress to more challenging targets. But you'll only have results to report if you can hit the target under the par time three times consecutively.

If you are successful three times in a row at hitting the target in two seconds or less, either end the drill or repeat using a more difficult target with the same distance and par time.
Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

Gun, holster and concealment (optional), or ready position start
First target successfully engaged three times in a row and under two seconds
Any subsequent targets successfully engaged three times in a row and under two seconds
Anything you noticed

Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.

Duke
04-25-2019, 02:41 PM
I’ve been using the card split as my standard

I can do it most the time cold. I did it 4 times off camera the day I shot this video.


For my fast coin anniversary Sunday I’m going to try and light a strike anywhere match from concealment at 7 under 2


Ltt from a keeper


https://youtu.be/ZU6lLX3YPWE

Doc_Glock
04-25-2019, 09:48 PM
I do a draw to a 2” dot fairly regularly as part of my training. I can’t get below 2s reliably at 7 yards. 2.2-2.4s and I miss 50%.

For today I tried the Fast Target.

VP9, JMCK WC2.0, concealed.

I did 16 draws to 8” circle and was super surprised at how much faster I could get a hit on the larger target. 1.5-1.6s with great regularity.

I switched to the 3x5 expecting a lot of slow misses and hit 10/12 in the 1.7-1.9s range. Pretty happy about that.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190426/c65a3913e38510d97998d11727bb4492.jpg

What did I learn: maybe my draw isn’t as slow as I thought? Small targets force much more time spent on sight refinement and smoothing the trigger pull.

Duke
04-25-2019, 10:35 PM
Trying My own idea today.

98 one shot draws. 26 matches destroyed - zero were struck correctly enough to light. 😢

The match itself is easy enough to hit. You have to try and shoot just over the top or else youre just shooting a small stick and stoping to put up a new one each shot.

ASH556
04-26-2019, 12:42 PM
Gun, holster and concealment (optional), or ready position start Beretta 92A1, JM OWB, no concealment
First target successfully engaged three times in a row and under two seconds 4" Circle
Any subsequent targets successfully engaged three times in a row and under two seconds 2" circle
Anything you noticed

I tried a 1" square after the 2" circle but couldn't get there. It was a visual plane focus shift thing and I'm going to blame the indoor range lighting for it. Based on my hits on the 2" circle I think I have the speed and trigger discipline to get there. Ask karmapolice if you don't believe me about the lighting in this place.

https://i.imgur.com/wQeUrbOl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kHYQVMil.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/E6E3txWl.jpg

JHC
04-28-2019, 05:41 AM
I’ve been using the card split as my standard

I can do it most the time cold. I did it 4 times off camera the day I shot this video.


For my fast coin anniversary Sunday I’m going to try and light a strike anywhere match from concealment at 7 under 2


Ltt from a keeper


https://youtu.be/ZU6lLX3YPWE


"GAME OVER MANNNNN, GAME OVER!!!

Very nice.

JHC
04-28-2019, 09:54 AM
So much fun!

3x5 card/7yards - "passed" with the 43X and 9mm Operator

3x3 Post It note - failed with the 43X but passed with the 9mm Operator.

B8 X ring - failed with the 9mm Operator. I thought I could. But didn't. :(

Machín Glock
05-03-2019, 12:53 PM
Hi all! This Morning I did this exercise. I used a Glock 3Gen, normal sight and duty holster Safariland.

It was very funny, I liked it a lot. The two seconds were a good challenge. I have used a different circles:

1º. 20cm Circle (7.8 inches): 3 shots, 1.75sc, 1.61sc and 1.65sc. PASS.
2º. 10cm Circle (3.9 inches): 3 shots, 1.70sc, 1.80sc, 1.82sc. PASS.
3º. 7.62cm Circle (3 inches): 3 shots, 1.66sc, 1.79sc and 1.83sc. PASS.
4º. 5cm Circle (2 inches): 3 shots, 1.90sc, 2.00 sc and 2.07sc. NO PASS

37764


I could not pass the 2 inches circle, I will continue training :D

BaiHu
05-03-2019, 09:36 PM
I did this a little funky because I don't have a holster for my new gat yet.
Dan Wesson 1911 9mm
High compressed ready
3" circle at 7 yds
Although the time is way under 2 seconds, I was accounting for clearing the garment and getting my master grip within the 2 second parameter. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190504/f9133707435957a2fda40b073d0e9a11.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190504/c176cd08457210173c09c01aa977d94f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190504/5671a4670e07e6b6725d04977b299e0d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190504/d0453796b09e771d6adf89a24b378851.jpg

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Duke
05-04-2019, 10:23 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw-24JjnvFt/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=17psfsp19g7rs


Now that I know it can be lit - and that i can make the shot- I can work on the time

JHC
05-06-2019, 06:43 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw-24JjnvFt/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=17psfsp19g7rs


Now that I know it can be lit - and that i can make the shot- I can work on the time

Keep the tannerite away from this guy. That's cool!

JHC
05-06-2019, 06:50 AM
I got this one slightly confused with DB's 2 second and went for 3 hits in a row and 10 yards, then at 15. From the holster, 2.0 par.

Made it at 10 yards. Dropped the 3rd hit when I tried 15 yards.

LB Operator.

37883

Will_H
05-13-2019, 10:27 AM
So this one, I obviously had quite a few attempts on, and this drove my choices for DotW 317.

HK VP9 in a Keepers AIWB under a t shirt.
Black of a B8 (started here and chose to stop here)
Man, I have a hard time putting the lessons I'm taught into performance. I need to practice more, live and dry. I grab my cover garment, then grip gun, then bowl or to the target. Then I try to wrangle my front sight on target before I shoot. Lots of steps, lots of corrections. This all leads to slow draw times and time wasted lining things up vs pulling the trigger as the gun comes out, because of the legit index putting the sights right on target. It helped when I laser focused on the X of the B8 right before the timer beeped.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190513/8e840fd069aadffba1c81400b4d1f254.jpg


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Duke
05-14-2019, 11:36 PM
Variation of the drill.


Same target and distance. Prepped trigger isolation drill

I’ve done it .16 but that’s not repeatable for me at this point. .20 to .25 is my norm



https://youtu.be/vNOrv11xZKI

Doc_Glock
05-20-2019, 08:29 PM
Draw to one@7 yards from concealed par is the black.

7/8. Had a hard time getting times due to other shooters but average 1.8s
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/f0131571a8cd06365b1e72cc807f68c6.jpg