Wilson EDC X9L

[Duke]

https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2019/04/full-size-wilson-combat-edc-x9l-review/

[JHC]

Gorgeous beast!

[Duke]

I think the magwell add on can be removed. Admittedly I just skimmed the write up

[JAD]

Bless them for making a non-lightrail version. If someone wanted an improved P35, this would be worth considering.

[Corse]

I think the magwell add on can be removed. Admittedly I just skimmed the write up

If that magwell is removable, I’m in.

[JAD]

WilsonCombatRep

[Robinson]

Dang that looks good, in a functional way. The looks I am "meh" about.

[Mobettadefense]

Very interested to see if the grip area on this pistol is indeed slightly larger with the "high swept" beaver tail being any different that the EDC X9. As much as I love my EDC X9 it is no longer my daily carry because drawing the pistol at speed, I have not been able to avoid gripping so high that my admittedly substantial meathook does not regularly ride up the top of the beaver tail and foul my grip (just like with a Glock). I have tried to train around it and even with the large backstrap it is just a little too small.

A 5" version with a little more real estate in the grip area or a slightly improved beaver tail would be my ideal carry gun.

WilsonCombatRep

[Amp]

If that magwell is removable, I’m in.

It's optional. A dealer on 1911forum says Wilson is coming out with 18rd mags soon.

[theJanitor]

Very interested to see if the grip area on this pistol is indeed slightly larger with the "high swept" beaver tail being any different that the EDC X9. As much as I love my EDC X9 it is no longer my daily carry because drawing the pistol at speed, I have not been able to avoid gripping so high that my admittedly substantial meathook does not regularly ride up the top of the beaver tail and foul my grip (just like with a Glock). I have tried to train around it and even with the large backstrap it is just a little too small.

A 5" version with a little more real estate in the grip area or a slightly improved beaver tail would be my ideal carry gun.

WilsonCombatRep

Somehow, the front sight of my X9 finds the notch in the rear sight faster than any pistol I've ever tried. Even my favorite 1911 wont index as perfect as the X9. You probably just need to get a full size single stack with the full-size beavertail.

[RevolverRob]

WANT.

Like mad want.

Now - can Wilson do a EDC X9CF - A Compact Frame (Officer's Size) with the Commander Length slide? I'll be all over that like a pig in shit.

[theJanitor]

WANT.

Like mad want.

Now - can Wilson do a EDC X9CF - A Compact Frame (Officer's Size) with the Commander Length slide? I'll be all over that like a pig in shit.

They make a CQB COMMANDER COMPACT. If I were to order a single stack right now, it would be that.

[RevolverRob]

They make a CQB COMMANDER COMPACT. If I were to order a single stack right now, it would be that.

Definitely. Though I'm leaning towards a Vigil CCO right now. But I'm hoping that one of the new Rock River guns dropped at NRAAM this week will be a polymer framed CCO.

But in the mean time, I want the double stack EDC. :cool:

Really, I want all of them. :eek: :rolleyes: (<-The look on my wife's face).

[theJanitor]

I'm a bit surprised at the inclusion of the barrel bushing on the 5" model

[Jim Watson]

Bushing needed for 5" IDPA ESP.

[theJanitor]

Bushing needed for 5" IDPA ESP.


aaahhhh. the competition world is so distant from me, I didn't even pause to consider

[JSGlock34]

It's optional. A dealer on 1911forum says Wilson is coming out with 18rd mags soon.

I'm guessing this is the 18 round magazine; a WC +3 floor plate?

https://cdn.athlonoutdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2019/04/edc-x9l-right.jpg

[tcba_joe]

So this is basically a class alternative to 2011s and double stack 1911s...? I've wanted a 2011 for a long time. I'll have to throw this on the "want but probably never able to afford" list.

The only real comment I have is their base models of EDX9s are still very "ornate" esthetically speaking.

[WilsonCombatRep]

aaahhhh. the competition world is so distant from me, I didn't even pause to consider

The bushing barrel is more reliable than a cone with the 5" length.

PS_We are now installing optics on x9's...

[theJanitor]

PS_We are now installing optics on x9's...

As soon as my colt comes back from MARS, my X9 will be headed back to you for this (hopefully, and RMR). Thanks!

[Bucky]

Very cool.

[Doc_Glock]

I like it.

[JSGlock34]

From a functionality standpoint I'm not quite sure of the magwell yet. From the pics on 1911Forum, it doesn't seem to open the funnel appreciably.

I think I'd like to see pictures of the extended magazines without the magwell.

[BaiHu]

The bushing barrel is more reliable than a cone with the 5" length.

PS_We are now installing optics on x9's...

breakingtime91

[Duke]

The bushing barrel is more reliable than a cone with the 5" length.

PS_We are now installing optics on x9's...

Mine is currently there for the short trigger install.

Just give it the dot while you have it.

[Magsz]

The bushing barrel is more reliable than a cone with the 5" length.

PS_We are now installing optics on x9's...

"lights a match and drops it on a can of gasoline".

Given the recent hubbub over the Laugo Arms Alien and its approve for production class in USPSA, do you guys have any intent to attempt to get this bad boy approved for USPSA production optics? I know that your cup of tea is IDPA but a lot of us out there would love to see some "rule bending" to allow us to shoot this thing in the "other" sport. ;)

[Bucky]

"lights a match and drops it on a can of gasoline".

Given the recent hubbub over the Laugo Arms Alien and its approve for production class in USPSA, do you guys have any intent to attempt to get this bad boy approved for USPSA production optics? I know that your cup of tea is IDPA but a lot of us out there would love to see some "rule bending" to allow us to shoot this thing in the "other" sport. ;)

I don’t see how that’d be possible. Single action hammer fired pistols are specifically forbidden in USPSA Production.

[Magsz]

I don’t see how that’d be possible. Single action hammer fired pistols are specifically forbidden in USPSA Production.

Oh, im well aware of that. However, USPSA/IPSC doesn't seem to give a crap since the Laugo Arms Alien is a hammer fired single action pistol with an internal hammer. Rules don't mean anything anymore so we might as well push this as far as we can. :P

[karmapolice]

The bushing barrel is more reliable than a cone with the 5" length.

PS_We are now installing optics on x9's...

I'm just some dude but I'd test a EDC X9L with an ACRO for you... I have an ACRO..... :cool:

[theJanitor]

The bushing barrel is more reliable than a cone with the 5" length.

PS_We are now installing optics on x9's...

Now that word of the True Zero system is out, do you have pics of the pieces, themselves? Thanks, WCR

[Amp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oouEG_YK-vw

[JHC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oouEG_YK-vw

Seeklander can bring it.

[Cory]

Seeklander can bring it.

I haven't met either in person, but I don't think Mandy is a slouch by any means either.


This looks like a pretty great pistol. I'm very firmly in the 92 camp... but If I start looking to 1911s again, this one is definitely the one to want.

-Cory

[donlapalma]

Sigh. I just watched that video and it made me want that pistol BAD.

[Bergeron]

WANT.

Like mad want.

Now - can Wilson do a EDC X9CF - A Compact Frame (Officer's Size) with the Commander Length slide? I'll be all over that like a pig in shit.

I opened this thread wondering how many posts it would take for a 4.25" slide to be requested. ;)

It's great that Wilson is continuing development of the x9; I'd love to see what it looks like with a slide mounted dot.

[Magsz]

I'm mostly just typing this because I have an hour left in my shift and im thinking out loud to myself but I really do wish that the pistols were priced a little more affordably.

Its an amazing platform with amazing potential but they've priced themselves out of the realm of possibility for so many people that would love what this pistol has to offer. For the price though, I cant justify what it offers over anything else. Im not knocking it, I think if people want to pay the price that Wilson demands, rock on but I just wish it could be produced at a cheaper price point.

[Jim Watson]

X9 is already at the low end of Wilson prices. They have no interest in competing with the large volume manufacturers.

[Duke]

I'm mostly just typing this because I have an hour left in my shift and im thinking out loud to myself but I really do wish that the pistols were priced a little more affordably.

Its an amazing platform with amazing potential but they've priced themselves out of the realm of possibility for so many people that would love what this pistol has to offer. For the price though, I cant justify what it offers over anything else. Im not knocking it, I think if people want to pay the price that Wilson demands, rock on but I just wish it could be produced at a cheaper price point.



Please just stop with this stuff.

There are a thousand cheaper more cheaply produced guns out there.

The gun industry has enough cheap garbage.

I’m not trying to be as rude as it probably seems.

Berryville Arkansas has some livestock, a chicken plant of some kind, 2 fuel stations, a power company
.......and 2 places that you can buy a $7,000 pistol hand built to your specs

Let them have the win on Product pricing this time.

[Magsz]

Cheap Garbage?

A 500 dollar Glock is cheap garbage? A 1500 dollar Dan Wesson is cheap garbage? A 2000 dollar Ed Brown is garbage? Ok then, I guess by your standard anything under three grand is shit and not worth buying.

Im guessing you missed the point of my post? I was wishing that the pistol could be produced in a manner that would bring the price point down. Its a wish, not a demand, nor a condemnation of Wilson. Again....it's just a wish. Relax please.

[Duke]

Cheap Garbage?

A 500 dollar Glock is cheap garbage? A 1500 dollar Dan Wesson is cheap garbage? A 2000 dollar Ed Brown is garbage? Ok then, I guess by your standard anything under three grand is shit and not worth buying.

Im guessing you missed the point of my post? I was wishing that the pistol could be produced in a manner that would bring the price point down. Its a wish, not a demand, nor a condemnation of Wilson. Again....it's just a wish. Relax please.



I didn’t say any of that about any of those guns.....You said that.


My comment was regarding price points on hand built Wilson guns....built in America where skilled labor and premium raw material isn’t cheap.

[theJanitor]

I think it's wise to remember that the MSRP of an(y) item has alot less to do with intrinsic value of that product, and more to do with profit potential of that product. Wilson has priced their product as high as they can, while still meeting unit sales goals , aligning with production capability, and meeting ROI goals. It's the goal of every manufacturer.

I'm wearing a Rolex and carrying a Wilson EDC X9 as I type this, so the idea that I "overpaid" for these items isn't lost on me. Bravo to both Wilson, and Rolex :cool:

[Magsz]

I think it's wise to remember that the MSRP of an(y) item has alot less to do with intrinsic value of that product, and more to do with profit potential of that product. Wilson has priced their product as high as they can, while still meeting unit sales goals , aligning with production capability, and meeting ROI goals. It's the goal of every manufacturer.

I'm wearing a Rolex and carrying a Wilson EDC X9 as I type this, so the idea that I "overpaid" for these items isn't lost on me. Bravo to both Wilson, and Rolex :cool:

Good post bro, thank you.

[theJanitor]

Here’s what I see in the pricing of the EDC X9. Wilson probably had to make some hard decision when setting the price.

It’s a new gun, which people usually are willing to pay up for. Wilson has a lot of fanboys (like myself) who will pay a lot of money for things with the Wilson logo (see glocks, berettas, shotguns, knives). They also have customers programmed to accept relatively high prices for their products. All of these things would lead you to believe that they could price this alongside their other very capable pistols at the $3500 mark.

But....it’s not a 1911. And us fanboys pay big bucks for 1911’s. We’re likely not willing to pay that much for a non-1911.

But...making the initial runs of the EDC X9 must be more expensive than making a comparable 1911. They had to sink lots of R&D money and time in this project. They had to make and inventory each small part that’s not currently in the stockroom for standard 1911s (frames, barrels, grips, safeties, sights, extractors,beaver tails, etc). They had to train people how to build, troubleshoot, inspect, repair, and handle the new product. They had to build an advertising campaign for the x9. They had to fund all of this before they could sell one unit.

The knowledge of how to make a great 1911 in the Wilson shop has already been bought and paid for many years back. The engineering money has been recouped. So has the metallurgy testing, and the parts development for a standard 1911. All of the brand building and advertising money has already provided return. Making another 1911 should be easy as pie for the guys at Wilson

Yet they can’t charge more than their bread and butter pistols. Pricing too high or too low, could devalue their new model, or their entire 1911 line, depending on the perspective of the customer.

Hard call. But either way. They made a great product, and while they’re the biggest fish in the 1911 world, they’re not a huge firearm company. Kudos to them for making a pistol, from the ground up, as good as this

[John Hearne]

There are some folks, myself included, that find beauty and art in well designed machines. While a strictly utilitarian design (which the Glock epitomizes) has a certain appeal, I can appreciate something that is done to tasteful excess. Can everyone afford some artful, tasteful excess - nope. But, it should stop those who have the money and want one - certainly not.

I've seen a Colt 9mm Commander that was redone by Jim Garthwaite. It was a pure work of art. I couldn't afford it but if I could, I would want one. I see the Wilson the same way. It's a work of art that they've tried to make mass production friendly. If someone can afford one, I wish them well and will try to contain my envy.

And, I live in constant fear that my wife, who is a 1911 fan, ever shoots one of these.

[Prdator]

I really want to shoot one of the these now.. Ive shot the EDC and the firist question I asked was when is the 5" coming out... that and 19 rounds on tap would almost make me switch from the LTT Elite.... LOL

[Sauer Koch]

Very nice! So, will these outsell the original X9?

[Duke]

I really want to shoot one of the these now.. Ive shot the EDC and the firist question I asked was when is the 5" coming out... that and 19 rounds on tap would almost make me switch from the LTT Elite.... LOL

I’m picking up my 4” from Wilson today after short trigger install.

If they have an L model on hand it may be an expensive day.

[Prdator]

I’m picking up my 4” from Wilson today after short trigger install.

If they have an L model on hand it may be an expensive day.

DO IT!!!!!!

[TC215]

Just handled one at the Wilson booth at the NRA show. Pretty nice, but if I was buying one it would probably be the 4”.

[Magsz]

Just handled one at the Wilson booth at the NRA show. Pretty nice, but if I was buying one it would probably be the 4”.

Why do you say that?

Use case based around concealed carry versus competition or fun?

[Duke]

No full size on hand to sample today

Got the 4” back. Last 2 shots of the day... double card split at 7M. It’s promising but I just dont shoot it as well as DA guns

[Duke]

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[TC215]

Why do you say that?

Use case based around concealed carry versus competition or fun?

Yes, exactly. I buy guns to carry or collect (1911’s, old revolvers)...If I was more into competition I’d be more interested in the 5” gun.

http://i.imgur.com/hXBUqYM.jpg

[Sensei]

So, my EDCX9L arrived last week and I finally got a chance to shoot it today. I fired an extractor test with no problem using 124 AE. Then, I fired 40 rounds two-handed with a FTF at rounds 11 and 14. Attempts at strong hand only resulted in FTF every 5th round or so.

Moving on to 147 grain HST and the gun could not cycle a single round...not one fucking round.


This is my 4th Wilson 9mm 1911 - a EDCX9, EDCX9L, CQB Elite, and Colt CCU with $1400 in Wilson tuning. The only one that ran out of the box was the EDCX9.


I’m pissed.

[TC215]

That’s ridiculous. I’m on my fourth Wilson in a little over 3 years...2 of them had to go back to the factory immediately. Sounds like you have worse luck than I do.

[wvincent]

So, my EDCX9L arrived last week and I finally got a chance to shoot it today. I fired an extractor test with no problem using 124 AE. Then, I fired 40 rounds two-handed with a FTF at rounds 11 and 14. Attempts at strong hand only resulted in FTF every 5th round or so.

Moving on to 147 grain HST and the gun could not cycle a single round...not one fucking round.


This is my 4th Wilson 9mm 1911 - a EDCX9, EDCX9L, CQB Elite, and Colt CCU with $1400 in Wilson tuning. The only one that ran out of the box was the EDCX9.


I’m pissed.

As you should be. Even with the understanding that the 1911 is a bit of an enthusiast's gun, that is totally unacceptable.
Especially considering the price point.
The only upside is knowing that Wilson Combat will be as unhappy about this as you are, and they will make it right.

[Bucky]

This is my 4th Wilson 9mm 1911 - a EDCX9, EDCX9L, CQB Elite, and Colt CCU with $1400 in Wilson tuning. The only one that ran out of the box was the EDCX9.


Kind of making me glad my only Wilson to date is an EDC X9. Oh, well there's the Beretta but that's not really a Wilson build.

Very disappointing hearing about the X9L. :(

[Sensei]

That’s ridiculous. I’m on my fourth Wilson in a little over 3 years...2 of them had to go back to the factory immediately. Sounds like you have worse luck than I do.

Supposedly, Wilson tests fires their guns with several magazines. From what I can tell, none of those mags contain JHP ammunition. My CQB Elite went back twice because JHP ammunition was not used despite me telling them that malfunction rates were dramatically higher with JHPs.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that every round needs to be a JHP, but not having Speer GD or Federal HST on hand is baffling. If a $2000 defensive gun will not get through 2 mags of either GD or HST, it has no business leaving the factory.

[TC215]

Supposedly, Wilson tests fires their guns with several magazines. From what I can tell, none of those mags contain JHP ammunition. My CQB Elite went back twice because JHP ammunition was not used despite me telling them that malfunction rates were dramatically higher with JHPs.

My first 9mm Commander went back twice for the same reason. It would not feed HST, Gold Dots, or Critical Duty at all. They got it fixed after the second time sending it in, but I had a hard time trusting it after that.

[TCFD273]

Supposedly, Wilson tests fires their guns with several magazines. From what I can tell, none of those mags contain JHP ammunition. My CQB Elite went back twice because JHP ammunition was not used despite me telling them that malfunction rates were dramatically higher with JHPs.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that every round needs to be a JHP, but not having Speer GD or Federal HST on hand is baffling. If a $2000 defensive gun will not get through 2 mags of either GD or HST, it has no business leaving the factory.

I’ve been on their test fire line, they shoot several different manufacturers ball rounds, and their own self defense ammo IIRC.

3 out of my 5 WC 9mms ran 100% out of the box

5” super grade-100%
EDC X9-100%
Commander- 100%
Xtac professional-adjusted extractor tension myself 100% after that
Compact- had to go back to Wilson to run 100%



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[Balisong]

Wow this thread is surprising and informative to me. I had had the impression that Wilson's had a pretty high rate of running out of the box compared to most other brands of 1911.

[Doc_Glock]

If it’s any consolation my EDC X9 has to go back to factory to run 147 grain reliably. Its failure rate was no where near as high as yours but I did not put much JHP through it. Need to try that. Seems to work fine now.

[Sensei]

My EDC x9L came back from its second trip to the factory. This time they removed some material from the slide that was rubbing and causing delay. I put 50 rounds of 147 grain HST thru it yesterday without malfunction. I need another 100 rounds or so before I’ll be fully convinced that the gun is worthy of carry. However, that will have to wait a few month until after COVID.

[TC215]

I hope it runs for you now.

I have an X9 coming, should be here Monday. I'm holding out hope that it will run out of the box.

[Bucky]

Interesting realization of how slim the X9 slide is. Went to slide it in the holster. It went all the way in until the safety caught. Turns out it was my G48 holster.

[Sensei]

Wow this thread is surprising and informative to me. I had had the impression that Wilson's had a pretty high rate of running out of the box compared to most other brands of 1911.

They do - when they are chambered in a caliber designed for the platform. My Wilson CQB Elite in 45ACP is simply outstanding as are my Wilson Berettas. The problem comes when people start adapting the 1911 for calibers other than 45ACP and the EDC X9 platform is close enough to a 1911 that it suffers the same limitation. This is especially true when you try and run JHP ammo through them.

I know that the consensus opinion on PF.com is that the 9mm 1911 has come of age. However, my experience with a 9mm Colt CCU, 9mm Wilson CQB Elite, EDC X9 and now this EDC X9L has been a 75% miss rate out of the box - all but the EDC X9 had to go back for feeding issues with JHP ammo. If I could travel back in time, I’d kick myself in the nuts for even contemplating going down the 9mm 1911 rabbit hole.

[farscott]

They do - when they are chambered in a caliber designed for the platform. My Wilson CQB Elite in 45ACP is simply outstanding as are my Wilson Berettas. The problem comes when people start adapting the 1911 for calibers other than 45ACP and the EDC X9 platform is close enough to a 1911 that it suffers the same limitation. This is especially true when you try and run JHP ammo through them.

I know that the consensus opinion on PF.com is that the 9mm 1911 has come of age. However, my experience with a 9mm Colt CCU, 9mm Wilson CQB Elite, EDC X9 and now this EDC X9L has been a 75% miss rate out of the box - all but the EDC X9 had to go back for feeding issues with JHP ammo. If I could travel back in time, I’d kick myself in the nuts for even contemplating going down the 9mm 1911 rabbit hole.

This has been my experience. The other issue is magazines. I will have a magazine that is a few months old go from feeding fine to jamming rounds into the feed ramp, and there is no warning. The magazine goes from reliably feeding to jamming the top round of the fully loaded magazine jammed into the feed ramp. And it happens with every brand and model of magazine. I have Wilson, Colt Metalform, and Mec-Gar magazines for my 9x19 1911 pistols. Some magazines work better in some guns, but I have not been able to figure out what variable(s) is/are the cause. I believe the short tapered 9x19 round is not a good fit for the 1911 magazine as I am still running my almost twenty year-old 9x23 magazines with no issues.

Knock on wood, my EDC X9 has fed everything, including 147-grain JHP, in the nine months I have had it.

[MGW]

My EDC x9L came back from its second trip to the factory. This time they removed some material from the slide that was rubbing and causing delay. I put 50 rounds of 147 grain HST thru it yesterday without malfunction. I need another 100 rounds or so before I’ll be fully convinced that the gun is worthy of carry. However, that will have to wait a few month until after COVID.

6 week bump. Is your X9L still running? Any additional thoughts on performance with it?

[fatdog]

My EDC x9L came back from its second trip to the factory. .

Just bumping to see if you had an update...I have a good friend from the USPSA world who is considering one of these. I related this thread and my personal frustrations with the various 9mm 1911 tribes, but he is in love with the thing visually and conceptually.

I told him I would check again to see if there was more news since he does not visit or post here. The rail and 5" barrel were important to him. He previously owned an STI 5" 9mm Marauder which was a disappointment to him from the reliability standpoint.