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justcor
03-20-2012, 08:55 PM
Disclaimer: As some of you know I am personal friends with Tony Mayer the owner of JM Custom Kydex and have been for the past couple of years. I have not been paid to post this review but I will admit that I would be happy to have others find out about the fine holsters that he makes. If this makes me biased, so be it, at least I have disclosed this fact up front.

That said let me tell you about JM Custom Kydex's newest holster the 'AIWB' model and my background. I have been experimenting with appendix carry for about the last 18 months or so and let me tell you I have a box full of straight drop holsters to prove it. It's been growing larger year after year as I strive to find what works the best for me as a legally armed citizen that carries daily. There are a lot of straight drop 'appendix' holsters that are on the market but are not at all well suited as an appendix holster, at least not for me. I don't see the need to list them here but chances are if someone had a straight drop holster and marketed it as an AIWB model I bought one to try out. I have stopped looking since using JM Custom Kydex's new AIWB holster.

One thing I found was after buying all lot of the wrong holsters you begin to figure out what works and what doesn't. For me it really broke down to a few things.

· First is conceal-ability. As a CCW holder I need a holster for concealment. The pistol needs to disappear in a basic darker colored polo t-shirt or un-tucked collared shirt. Concealed means concealed. I live in California, enough said right?

· Second is comfort-ability. If wearing a standard size defensive pistol, in my case a G19, for 10-12 hours a day is not comfortable I'm not going to wear it. Can I wear this holster for all of my training? Can I wear it seated all day? Can I wear it in a car with a seat belt for hours on end?

· Third is ride height. I need to be able to get a master grip on the pistol every time when starting my draw. This is a balance between too high which makes the holster easy to draw from but also can cause the holster to roll out especially if you have a 'spare tire' or don't quite have six-pack abs. I feel this holster has a balance between conceal-ability and usability.

For me this JM Custom Kydex AIWB holster passes all three of these tests will flying colors.

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o591/justcor1/22a9c7af.jpg?t=1332293426
This holster has been worn daily for the past three months. I've attended 2 different classes in this time one was a AFHF and the other was a class where we shot a lot from prone the pull the dot snaps worked fine but they did get scraped up.


http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o591/justcor1/efb98de0.jpg?t=1332293575
I'm able to get a good master grip specifically I'm able to get my fingers between my belt and the butt of the pistol easily.

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o591/justcor1/5f6e0cce.jpg?t=1332293844
The holster tucks, is still comfortable and yet I can still obtain a master grip even with my 'spare tire' :p

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o591/justcor1/10adeba5.jpg?t=1332294083
Side view showing the butt of the pistol tucked.

One thing that you might have already encountered when it comes to some Custom/Semi-Custom holster makers is that they're often hard to get ahold of. Tony responds quickly to email also posts his email right on his website and actually answers his phone and returns calls. While this seems like a basic customer service sort of issue that is trivial, I have found that customer service is sorely lacking when having to deal with one or more other holster companies.

I have been using this holster daily now for about 90 days. I find this holster to be the most comfortable AIWB holster I have worn for daily carry. The ride height is perfect: not to low and not too high. As you can see from the pictures above I'm able to get a master grip quickly and easily. Also as you can see I'm not a poster boy for 6 pack abs. I have some 'winter' stores I'm carrying around but the holster still tucks nicely and aids in concealment.

Overall I'm very happy with this holster and find myself using this holster over all of my other options. I chose the standard belt loops option as I like the ability to quickly pull off or put on the holster. I understand that Tony is also making an option of a Kydex loop for those that want a more fixed mounting option. If you need or want that option it is available at the time of order or can be purchased separately.

In short, I really like the design and construction of this holster. If you are looking for an appendix carry holster, then the JM Custom Kydex AIWB is a great choice. The holster retails for $75.00 plus shipping. All JM Custom holsters are backed with an unlimited lifetime warranty, which shows that JM Custom has confidence in its products and faith in its customers. You can view and order the AIWB holster and the full line of other JM Custom Kydex holsters at http://www.jmcustomkydex.com/ (www.jmcustomkydex.com)


All prices as of March, 2012.

vandal
03-27-2012, 05:15 PM
Does this holster have a feature designed to keep the grip tucked in -- as compared to the Shaggy's "wedge" approach?

CR78
03-27-2012, 05:39 PM
Does this holster have a feature designed to keep the grip tucked in -- as compared to the Shaggy's "wedge" approach?

I had the exact same question justcor. I know you prefer this to the Shaggy and the PIC, and I was hoping I could get you to compare and contrast the tucking aspect of these holsters a bit, with a focus on which conceals best for you. I'm pretty slim, and concealment is one of the things that draws me to AIWB carry. Like you, I carry a G19.

VolGrad
03-27-2012, 06:31 PM
I just ordered one of these for a M&P9c to try out. I had a C&D on order but after reading a bunch of threads about poor comm lately I just canceled it.

Weird ... the C&D discount code they gave me last time was invalid. I sent a msg after ordering asking if it was still good and could be applied. NO response. I just emailed to cancel the order and VIOLA I rec'd a very fast response confirming the cancellation. It drives me nuts when vendors pick and choose what they reply to.

I'm having a comm issue with another maker with whom I have a pending order now at 10weks+ and don't wish to deal with any more at the moment.

justcor
03-27-2012, 06:51 PM
Here are a couple of cell phone pictures showing the wedge design.
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o591/justcor1/c440e7a4.jpg?t=1332891634

This one really shows off the wedge. (Sorry for the bad photos)
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o591/justcor1/05dd2c3f.jpg?t=1332891847

This is the underside showing the trigger guard area.
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o591/justcor1/1790ff77.jpg?t=1332892074

The design is minimalist and is noticeably smaller than many of the other designs I have seen to date.

VolGrad
03-27-2012, 07:29 PM
Those pics are the JM, right?

justcor
03-27-2012, 07:30 PM
Those pics are the JM, right?
Correct.

VolGrad
03-27-2012, 07:33 PM
Just checking. The "wedge" on the C&D Pardus I have is on the inside, up against the body, so it pushes the bottom of the holster outward thus canting the grip in toward your stomach.

justcor
03-27-2012, 07:38 PM
Just checking. The "wedge" on the C&D Pardus I have is on the inside, up against the body, so it pushes the bottom of the holster outward thus canting the grip in toward your stomach.

For comparison here is a CCC Shaggy
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o591/justcor1/a34b3402.jpg?t=1332894885

This is the new CDI Pardus which is huge when compared to the CCC Shaggy and JM Custom Kydex.
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o591/justcor1/b3567d92.jpg?t=1332894983

VolGrad
03-27-2012, 08:45 PM
I don't care for the look of the PIC. Glad I cancelled it. I like the old Pardus better.

vandal
03-28-2012, 10:17 AM
JM ordered. :)

Wondering Beard
03-28-2012, 10:35 AM
How much clearance is there between the top of the belt and the root of the trigger guard?

jstyer
03-28-2012, 10:46 AM
Is the holster reviewed the full guard model?

EVP
03-28-2012, 11:45 AM
Justcor

What are the differences between the JM and shaggy and why do you prefer it?

JDM
03-28-2012, 01:58 PM
I was intrigued enough to order one. I'll add my thoughts in 3-4 weeks.

CR78
03-28-2012, 02:33 PM
I'm about to order one too. Is anyone getting the kydex loop, similar to the Shaggy? - Edit: I just placed an order.

JDM
03-28-2012, 02:54 PM
I'm about to order one too. Is anyone getting the kydex loop, similar to the Shaggy? - Edit: I just placed an order.

I did.

Shellback
03-28-2012, 02:54 PM
I'm about to order one too. Is anyone getting the kydex loop, similar to the Shaggy? - Edit: I just placed an order.

Did you go kydex loop or the leather loops? I'd like to see a picture of the kydex loop set up.

JDM
03-28-2012, 02:58 PM
I went for the kydex loop Irish. I want it to be as direct a comparison as possible to the Shaggy.

Shellback
03-28-2012, 03:02 PM
I went for the kydex loop Irish. I want it to be as direct a comparison as possible to the Shaggy.

That was my thought as well. However, I think the loops might provide a small amount of movement and aid in comfort while sitting or being in the car. I'm happy with the Shaggy but there are times where I have a small comfort issue and I'm always up for trying a new product that might possibly improve on the concealment and comfort level.

CR78
03-28-2012, 03:09 PM
Did you go kydex loop or the leather loops? I'd like to see a picture of the kydex loop set up.

I went with the kydex loop, thinking it would be a little more low-profile than the leather loops.

VolGrad
03-28-2012, 04:10 PM
I went with the snap loops. I like the idea of the kydex tunnel loop but they've never worked for me.

Shellback
03-28-2012, 04:34 PM
I placed an order for the double loops. I also requested that Tony send me a picture of the kydex attachment on the holster so I could possibly change the order before it's made if I like the design. I'll post the picture when I receive it.

justcor
03-28-2012, 05:55 PM
Is the holster reviewed the full guard model?
Yes it is. I personally would not order anything but the full guard. I do not want the slide touching my body especially when that slide might be hot from firing drills.


How much clearance is there between the top of the belt and the root of the trigger guard?
About an 1/8 to 1/4 inch higher than the the two Shaggy's I have.



Justcor
What are the differences between the JM and shaggy and why do you prefer it?
I like the slightly higher ride height and the tuck is nearly identical. Also the belt loops are about 1/2 inch farther apart which I think helps keep the holster from moving around. I prefer the belt loops over the Kydex loop as it is easier to take on and off.

Tony Mayer
03-30-2012, 08:16 PM
Hello everyone. I thought i would get on here and introduce myself and tell you a little about my company. First off my name is Tony Mayer and I am the owner of JM Custom Kydex. I started building holsters professionally in January of last year, but have been building holsters for the last 3 years for myself and others. I do this full time out of a shop in Reno, NV and I have three part time employee's. Thanks for all the orders I have received over the last few days and my lead times are accurate and I try to update them weekly if needed or sooner if the order volume dictates it. I have been getting some questions about pics of my kydex loop on my aiwb. I will be taking some new product photos on Thursday the 5th of April and as soon as my web designer can get them up I will let everyone know. If you want it sooner I can take a few, but I warn you, I am not a photographer by any stretch. I will try and answer any questions you have.

Thanks to justcor for the review and his wife for taking the pics.

JDM
03-30-2012, 08:24 PM
Hello everyone. I thought i would get on here and introduce myself and tell you a little about my company. First off my name is Tony Mayer and I am the owner of JM Custom Kydex. I started building holsters professionally in January of last year, but have been building holsters for the last 3 years for myself and others. I do this full time out of a shop in Reno, NV and I have three part time employee's. Thanks for all the orders I have received over the last few days and my lead times are accurate and I try to update them weekly if needed or sooner if the order volume dictates it. I have been getting some questions about pics of my kydex loop on my aiwb. I will be taking some new product photos on Thursday the 5th of April and as soon as my web designer can get them up I will let everyone know. If you want it sooner I can take a few, but I warn you, I am not a photographer by any stretch. I will try and answer any questions you have.

Thanks to justcor for the review and his wife for taking the pics.

Welcome aboard, and thanks for joining.

Also, thanks for your quick response to my email about the kydex loop.

Savage Hands
03-30-2012, 08:30 PM
If my PIC IWB doesn't work out, I'm going to try one of the IWB models out.

Kilryth
04-09-2012, 11:07 AM
I'm new to AIWB and have a P2000sk I'm trying to conceal with a minimalist kydex holster, while still keeping the butt against my side. Trying to keep the grip kinda close to the belt, so the gun doesn't roll and so I can sit down easier.

Considering the JM, the Shaggy (can't find one for sale), and the Garrett Thunder Slim II. I'm concerned the Slim II might be a little thick because of the leather interior.. so that makes me wonder about the JM.

Is the JM adjustable? The height is the only thing that may be a problem for me, since the P2000SK is 3.25" bbl and it conceals better & sits more comfortably with a lower grip. I sent JM an email too.

Thanks guys

justcor
04-09-2012, 11:49 AM
I'm new to AIWB and have a P2000sk I'm trying to conceal with a minimalist kydex holster, while still keeping the butt against my side. Trying to keep the grip kinda close to the belt, so the gun doesn't roll and so I can sit down easier.

Considering the JM, the Shaggy (can't find one for sale), and the Garrett Thunder Slim II. I'm concerned the Slim II might be a little thick because of the leather interior.. so that makes me wonder about the JM.

Is the JM adjustable? The height is the only thing that may be a problem for me, since the P2000SK is 3.25" bbl and it conceals better & sits more comfortably with a lower grip. I sent JM an email too.

Thanks guys
Kilryth,

You don't list what you are using now but In my experience the main reason for the holster rolling out is it is either to high OR you have a large fat roll :D. The wedge design of whatever holster maker you buy will help but if the ride height is to high it will cant the holster and gun out. I can say that the Shaggy and JM both tuck very close to the same. Ride height is also important as you want it as low as possible with the ability to obtain a master grip when drawing.

Lastly if you are new to AIWB you will need to play around with placement on the belt line for awhile. Sometimes as little as a half of an inch makes a large difference. I wear standard Levi's or Vertex pants and I am lucky that both allow me to run the snap loops between the belt loops so I'm able to place the holster in the same spot every time.

If you haven't already check out this thread. http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?120-AIWB-%28Appendix-Carry%29/
There is a whole lot of great information contained in that thread.

Kilryth
04-09-2012, 12:32 PM
Kilryth,

You don't list what you are using now but In my experience the main reason for the holster rolling out is it is either to high OR you have a large fat roll :D. The wedge design of whatever holster maker you buy will help but if the ride height is to high it will cant the holster and gun out. I can say that the Shaggy and JM both tuck very close to the same. Ride height is also important as you want it as low as possible with the ability to obtain a master grip when drawing.

Lastly if you are new to AIWB you will need to play around with placement on the belt line for awhile. Sometimes as little as a half of an inch makes a large difference. I wear standard Levi's or Vertex pants and I am lucky that both allow me to run the snap loops between the belt loops so I'm able to place the holster in the same spot every time.

If you haven't already check out this thread. http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?120-AIWB-%28Appendix-Carry%29/
There is a whole lot of great information contained in that thread.

Thanks Justcor! I have been following those threads. They're helpful. I am new to AIWB, so I have nothing to compare it to. I've just been trying different placements with the P2000SK unholstered, unloaded. It fits perfect at 1 and 2 oclock. If I worked an inch or two off my waist, it'd be ok at 12 oclock too. The higher grip height jerks into my stomach when I sit. The low grip height doesn't seem to bother me with the 2000SK, unless the grip is ON the beltline.

I'm very happy that JM made something similar to the Shaggy. They seem to be some of the lowest profile holsters for AIWB that I've seen (while still doing the job)

tmoore912
04-09-2012, 01:34 PM
Wearing a gun at AIWB with enough ride height to give you a good purchase of the grip, is always going to stick into your stomach while seated. No matter who's holster you are wearing, it will do that. You just have to get use to it. It will take your body getting use to it over a period of days, and sometimes weeks.

ToddG
04-09-2012, 03:01 PM
Assessing a gun position for aiwb without a holster is as useful as assessing recoil control without live ammo. The whole point is that a well designed and executed aiwb holster will make the gun more comfortable and concealable than carrying in the same location without a holster.

TheLaw
04-10-2012, 06:58 AM
I ordered one for the G19. Looking forward to trying it out. Thanks for the info in the thread.

Kilryth
04-10-2012, 07:42 AM
I ordered one for the G19. Looking forward to trying it out. Thanks for the info in the thread.

I hope you enjoy your holster! Thank you justcor for all the info in the thread. If John Mayor had a mold for the P2000SK, I would have bought one without further hesitation. Unfortunately, he says he's unable to procure a blue gun for it. He offered to trim it down, adjust it for the grip height I wanted, etc. Gave me plenty of info over the phone and email. He seems great to do business with, and had offered to try to make a P2000 mold work for me - as long as I could give him the differences.

It looks like the differences are a little more than I expected though (different trigger guards).

VolGrad
04-19-2012, 07:25 PM
Rec'd mine today for a M&P9c. I can't be happier. Tony is now on my "recommended" list, for whatever that's worth.

fit & finish excellent
comfort excellent
concealment excellent

Me ... happy.

jmjames
04-19-2012, 07:56 PM
I hope you enjoy your holster! Thank you justcor for all the info in the thread. If John Mayor had a mold for the P2000SK, I would have bought one without further hesitation. Unfortunately, he says he's unable to procure a blue gun for it. He offered to trim it down, adjust it for the grip height I wanted, etc. Gave me plenty of info over the phone and email. He seems great to do business with, and had offered to try to make a P2000 mold work for me - as long as I could give him the differences.

It looks like the differences are a little more than I expected though (different trigger guards).

There is no "blue gun" for the P2000SK, but there *is* a "red gun" for it: http://www.amazon.com/ASP-P2000-Compact-Training-Series/dp/B0010ZQE2M/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1334883377&sr=8-6

J.Ja

Tony Mayer
04-19-2012, 08:55 PM
jmjames, thanks for the heads up. I will get one ordered.

VolGrad, thanks for the nod, glad it's working out.

VolGrad
04-20-2012, 06:43 AM
JM Custom Kydex on the left.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd208/volgrad/fav%20holsters/f2af3249.jpg

CR78
04-21-2012, 02:47 PM
Just received a JM Custom Kydex AIWB holster for my G19 on Thursday. Posted lead time when I ordered was 3 to 4 weeks. I ordered mine the evening of March 28th and received my shipping notification on April 17th...so total time from order to shipping was 2 weeks and 6 days. Tony was prompt in responding to my emails, and accommodated a change to my order two weeks after I placed it. I was very impressed with customer service during the order process from start to finish.

As Volgrad observed, the fit and finish of the holster are outstanding. Its design works very well for my thin body type, adding very little to the footprint of my G19, yet it does a fantastic job of tucking the butt of the gun into my body. In short, both comfort and concealment are great for me. This will be my go-to cc holster for my G19. For what it's worth, I'm someone who is very sensitive about printing. I'm thin and wear relatively form fitting clothes, and will have no problem adequately concealing with this holster in the majority of my wardrobe. I will post another review after I've used it for a few months.

I'm interested to hear reviews from those who also own a Shaggy. I have to believe that the JM conceals at least as well.

I29alpha
04-21-2012, 03:03 PM
I'm interested to hear reviews from those who also own a Shaggy. I have to believe that the JM conceals at least as well.

I have a shaggy for a g19 and a jm for a g17. I use the g19 in both holsters and there is no difference in concealment for me. Fit and finish are excellent on both. I had great experiences with the makers of each holster as well. Fast response and delivery was before the quoted date.

Up1911Fan
04-21-2012, 05:24 PM
I think i'm going to order one of these as well. I like the idea of AIWB, however the only holster i've tried was an Archangel, which I didn't care for. This look's like a good option.

JDM
04-26-2012, 08:07 PM
Having recovered the holster from my previous address today (I'm not smart enough to change my PayPal address after I move), my initial reaction is this: the JM AIWB holster is absolutely promising as an effective AIWB rig.

Naturally I'll need some more time with it, but it does everything it is supposed to do so far, and the quality is there. I'm going to shoot as much AFHF as I can with it this weekend (no heat resistant backing). I will have some more thoughts after that.



http://img.tapatalk.com/4c7103ef-f11f-aba2.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/4c7103ef-f13e-e5c7.jpg

vandal
04-30-2012, 06:01 PM
Very happy with mine for a G17 (but running a G19). Mine came with soft loops that weren't obviously adjustable. I swapped them off for Blade-tech soft loops.

Super J
05-02-2012, 06:10 AM
Thanks for the review

VolGrad
05-02-2012, 06:31 AM
Very happy with mine for a G17 (but running a G19). Mine came with soft loops that weren't obviously adjustable. I swapped them off for Blade-tech soft loops.

I actually prefer the soft loops Tony uses. I have a couple of sets of Bladetech soft loops that are BNIB. If anyone wants to trade JM's for mine send me a PM.

Tony Mayer
05-03-2012, 11:17 PM
Just to let you all know, I am now making holsters for the M&P Shield.

JDM
05-03-2012, 11:42 PM
Here are some pictures of the JM AIWB rig compared to the CCC Shaggy.

FWIW I shot both days of AFHF with the JM holster (~950 rounds) without a single concern.

For my purposes, the JMAIWB, and the Shaggy are interchangeable.


JM:

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa334/fatcook/JM1.jpg

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa334/fatcook/JM2.jpg

Shaggy:

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa334/fatcook/SHG2.jpg

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa334/fatcook/SHG1.jpg

Shellback
05-04-2012, 04:08 PM
For my purposes, the JMAIWB, and the Shaggy are interchangeable.

I've come to the same conclusion. Both offer the same amount of conceal-ability and ease of use. Their respective designs are different but similar and I think anyone would be well served by either holster.

tmoore912
05-08-2012, 12:42 PM
I just put in a order for a G17 JM AIWB holster with the Kydex loop. Looking forward to trying it out.

dickmadison
05-08-2012, 05:43 PM
justcor, volgrad, et al, for those of you carrying a G19 (or equivalent compact size in the M&p series, etc), are you buying a G17 length holster or G19 length? I have a Dale Fricke Arch angel in both G17 and G19 length and the G19 is more comfy for me but the G17 doesn't tip over the belt loops as much. I'm slowly building an undesirable collection of holsters and not sure which one to get? I need something that tucks the butt of the gun better than the fricke. Perhaps the design is better and a g19 length would work just as well? Will this holster do that and do you all recommend G17 or G19 length...I can't afford both!

Thanks!

Tony Mayer
05-08-2012, 11:29 PM
dickmadison, thanks for the interest in my aiwb. I would go with the G17 length, the extra length will help against roll out however it rides low enough and tucks enough that shouldn't be a problem with either the 17 or 19. If you don't like it in the first two weeks you can return it for a full refund or trade out for a G19 length.

Tony

dickmadison
05-09-2012, 09:18 AM
dickmadison, thanks for the interest in my aiwb. I would go with the G17 length, the extra length will help against roll out however it rides low enough and tucks enough that shouldn't be a problem with either the 17 or 19. If you don't like it in the first two weeks you can return it for a full refund or trade out for a G19 length.

Tony

Thanks for the quick reply...another question...if you order it with the kydex loop, can you buy the leather loops later and install them yourself if you want to change?

Tony Mayer
05-09-2012, 09:59 AM
dickmadison, yes you can. I have 3/4" wide cloth infused rubber and 3/4" wide leather. Both of those options can also be ordered with hardware, not snaps, so end user can bolt directly to holster to create a fixed soft loop. Thanks

Tony

dickmadison
05-09-2012, 10:16 AM
great...just ordered one! Looking forward to it!

Savage Hands
05-09-2012, 10:32 AM
Is it possible to get this holster in the thicker .093 kydex?

Answered: Yes for $10 additional. :cool:

dickmadison
05-09-2012, 06:47 PM
Is it possible to get this holster in the thicker .093 kydex?

Answered: Yes for $10 additional. :cool:

May I ask why you prefer .093 to .080? Have you had issues with .080 kydex?

Savage Hands
05-09-2012, 06:53 PM
May I ask why you prefer .093 to .080? Have you had issues with .080 kydex?


No issues, but I don't mind that additional thickness since I'm used to leather.

I may be wrong but I'd think the thicker kydex might be slightly more durable.

CR78
05-10-2012, 09:03 AM
Tony, have you considered creating a tuckable option?

Tony Mayer
05-10-2012, 10:29 AM
CR78, yes I have. I will make you one if you would like and you can tell me if it works.

To clarify for everyone on the .093 thickness, it is $5.00 extra for black and $10.00 extra for colored .093 for my other designs of holsters. The $5.00 charge for .093 black for my OWB holsters is not only for the extra price of the thicker kydex, which is minimal, it is also for the added labor and parts. For the AIWB, due to its design and how it is made, the added cost would only be the kydex itself, therefore I don't see a need to add any to the existing price of a black AIWB in .093. If you want a colored AIWB it will be a $10.00 upgrade. This will hopefully be up on the website today, until it is , put .093 in the "personalized text" box if that is what you want.

I think the .093 will be slightly more durable than the .080 but have a slightly thicker profile as well. It will come down to personal preference.

If you ordered an .080 and would like to change it too .093, shoot me an email stating that and I will change it on your order form. If you already have an AIWB in .080 and want one in .093 shoot me an email and we will talk about it. Thanks.

Tony

Savage Hands
05-10-2012, 10:53 AM
CR78, yes I have. I will make you one if you would like and you can tell me if it works.

To clarify for everyone on the .093 thickness, it is $5.00 extra for black and $10.00 extra for colored .093 for my other designs of holsters. The $5.00 charge for .093 black for my OWB holsters is not only for the extra price of the thicker kydex, which is minimal, it is also for the added labor and parts. For the AIWB, due to its design and how it is made, the added cost would only be the kydex itself, therefore I don't see a need to add any to the existing price of a black AIWB in .093. If you want a colored AIWB it will be a $10.00 upgrade. This will hopefully be up on the website today, until it is , put .093 in the "personalized text" box if that is what you want.

I think the .093 will be slightly more durable than the .080 but have a slightly thicker profile as well. It will come down to personal preference.

If you ordered an .080 and would like to change it too .093, shoot me an email stating that and I will change it on your order form. If you already have an AIWB in .080 and want one in .093 shoot me an email and we will talk about it. Thanks.

Tony



Oh so I'm not getting charged an extra $10 for the .093 AIWB? :cool:

pr1042
05-10-2012, 12:27 PM
ordered one a few weeks ago, this forum is costing me money now

SmokeJumper
05-10-2012, 04:56 PM
Ok, so with regards to the Kydex thickness I'm curious. What is the thickness on the CCC Shaggy and on Raven Concealment holsters? I ask because those are the only ones I have to compare to before deciding to upgrade to the thicker Kydex on my current order. As a side note, my Shaggy is on the thicker side, thicker than my Raven gear.

Serpico1985
05-17-2012, 12:13 PM
Just ordered one in .093, can't wait to try it out!

pr1042
05-17-2012, 03:43 PM
Mine shipped today, right at 3 weeks wait time from order from ship time. Hoping that this will send my supertuck to the classifieds

WoodLark
05-20-2012, 10:28 AM
I have been looking at the JM holsters for my M&P Shield. I am left-handed, and normally like to carry between 10:00 and 11:00. I have been debatring with myself whether the AIWB holster or the IWB2 holster (special ordered with straight drop) would work better in this application. Does anyone have any thoughts on the subject?

JDM
05-20-2012, 10:46 AM
AIWB.

DonovanM
05-29-2012, 09:27 PM
Edit: Wow, very impressed with the customer service, as you can see below... probably should have contacted him first.

Anyway this is a great holster, I can't imagine wanting anything more out of an AIWB holster, with the exception of attachable/modular foam wedges, but those are on a holster twice-ish the price.

My next purchase will be one of these for my G34.

Tony Mayer
05-29-2012, 10:04 PM
Donovan, sorry to hear the loops were not what you wanted. I can send you a set of 3/4' wide leather loops with pull-the-dot snaps if you prefer or I can send you a Kydex loop. Either way let me know.

tmoore912
06-01-2012, 05:34 PM
Tony,
Great job. You certainly have a winner. Ride height is perfect for me. Kydex Loop works well. Grip tuck is as good as any of the others out there. Very smooth draw even though the gun locks into the holster well. Very comfortable for me with the G17 or G19. I'll be ordering more.

Savage Hands
06-01-2012, 05:38 PM
Received mine today and I can't wait to try it out this weekend :cool:

Tony Mayer
06-01-2012, 08:21 PM
tmoore912 , thanks and good to know it's working for you.

Savage Hands
06-01-2012, 08:45 PM
I can't wear it outside until at least next weekend, but I wore it around the house and did some draws with it and I'm very impressed with it so far. I'm also wearing it between 2-3 o'clock since I'm too fat for AIWB right now lol.

SmokeJumper
06-04-2012, 11:13 AM
I took delivery of mine late last week. It is a good design, simple, yet very functional in my opinion. I did some dry fire and practice carry with it over the weekend to make sure I would be comfortable with it. It was not too difficult to go from a Shaggy to the JM, just a different Glock pistol. I went with the two rubber loops as I prefer this attachment, especially in/out of street clothes and off from work. My only hang up with it is that I think I got a bad snap on one loop, comes off very easily for a one way snap. I'll have to give Tony a shout.

ubervic
06-05-2012, 05:46 PM
Well, now. This looks, sounds and feels just right.
Going to order tonight.
Proper. :cool:

P.S. I'm unclear as to the advantages of the thinner Kydex versus the thicker. Can anyone comment on the real-world tangible difference, if any?

Tony Mayer
06-05-2012, 10:21 PM
Smokejumper, pm or email me your address and I will get you a new set of loops out asap.

ubervic, the .093 is going to be slightly more durable, and be slightly more rigid as well as being slightly thicker. With aiwb rigs, the rigidity is not to big of an issue. Retention is end user adjustable for both so that is a wash. Imo, it boils down to personal preference. Hope that helps, pm or email me if you have any more questions.

Tony

SmokeJumper
06-05-2012, 11:46 PM
Smokejumper, pm or email me your address and I will get you a new set of loops out asap.

ubervic, the .093 is going to be slightly more durable, and be slightly more rigid as well as being slightly thicker. With aiwb rigs, the rigidity is not to big of an issue. Retention is end user adjustable for both so that is a wash. Imo, it boils down to personal preference. Hope that helps, pm or email me if you have any more questions.

Tony

E-mail inbound, thanks Tony! Other than the snap, the holster is work out great

ubervic
06-06-2012, 09:30 AM
Smokejumper, pm or email me your address and I will get you a new set of loops out asap.

ubervic, the .093 is going to be slightly more durable, and be slightly more rigid as well as being slightly thicker. With aiwb rigs, the rigidity is not to big of an issue. Retention is end user adjustable for both so that is a wash. Imo, it boils down to personal preference. Hope that helps, pm or email me if you have any more questions.

Tony

Tony-
Thanks for the response and info.

I'm pretty much ready to order from your company but am concerned that AIWB may always be an issue due to my gut. ;)
I am going to figure this out but may end up going with your IWB2 instead of the AIWB.

Thanks. I will be in touch via the ordering portion of your website.
ubervic

l8apex
06-06-2012, 10:09 PM
Received mine a few days ago for a G19 with loops. Best AIWB I've used thus far, and it's been quite a bit of time and cash to get to this point [if you're like me you have box of holsters]. Other AIWBs will be for sale soon. Thanks JM Holsters. Great product!

Outlier
06-11-2012, 06:26 PM
I do not have anywhere near the experience with the multitude of holsters out there that some of the members have but I know the holster I purchased from Tony is easily the best one I have used. Thanks for such a great product.

Tony Mayer
06-11-2012, 08:46 PM
l8apex and descent, thanks for the kudos, glad to hear it's working out for both of you.

Cool Breeze
06-12-2012, 11:15 PM
Nice holster. Conceals really well. I will say, it doesn't have as positive of a "kydex click" as say the fricke design. I think that is because the wedge design only allows one side of the trigger guard to "click" versus the non-wedge design of the fricke where both sides do. That being said, retention is excellent, it just doesn't "snap in" like other holsters i've tried.

Madnik
06-23-2012, 11:21 PM
A week into carrying with mine, I'm pleased to have tried it out. The ride height, cant and concealment work well for me.

dickmadison
06-26-2012, 08:48 AM
I got mine a few weeks ago and it is awesome. I'm really digging it. It conceals the gun really well with the butt of the gun close the body. Ride height is perfect as I can get a full grip when drawing. It is also very comfortable. I do agree that it doesn't have the kydex "click" like the Fricke design but as stated that is because of the wedge design of the holster. Tension is adjustable and excellent. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

Up1911Fan
06-26-2012, 01:17 PM
I'm still considering ordering one of these to give AIWB another shot, tried a fricke AA and it didn't conceal well for me. I did just order one of JM's OWB holsters and a mag pouch though.

tmoore912
06-26-2012, 01:29 PM
Biggest issue I had with the Fricke Archangel is that it had no grip tucking ability. I carried in one for about 4 years. With my body type, I need a holster to have that ability. I got that with the JM Appendix holster. It has worked well for me the short time I have been wearing it. I wear mine all day.

Cool Breeze
06-26-2012, 02:20 PM
Biggest issue I had with the Fricke Archangel is that it had no grip tucking ability. I carried in one for about 4 years. With my body type, I need a holster to have that ability. I got that with the JM Appendix holster. It has worked well for me the short time I have been wearing it. I wear mine all day.

I agree with you. I still like the fricke design and it is top quality in terms of craftmanship...but the JM conceals better (for me, on my body type) due to grip tucking in closer to the body.

ubervic
06-29-2012, 06:36 PM
Just took delivery today.

I've been carrying for a few years at 4 o'clock only, so I've not even figured out all there is to figure out about AIWB. But I can already tell this is the real deal. This rig flat-out rides and hides like magic.

I'll experiment with positioning and such, and then I'll post again. One thing's for sure: this rig is a keeper.

JDM
06-29-2012, 07:10 PM
I'm getting the idea that lots of you guys are using Tony's holster to start your venture into appendix carry, and that is fantastic.

Please remember this while you are experimenting with this type of carry:

IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE HOLSTERING YOUR GUN IN THE APPENDIX POSITION, AND IT DISCHARGES, YOU WILL DIE.

I'm in no way trying to discourage anyone, but simply trying to remind everyone (myself included) of a very important fact of AIWB life. :)

ubervic
06-29-2012, 07:48 PM
I'm getting the idea that lots of you guys are using Tony's holster to start your venture into appendix carry, and that is fantastic.

Please remember this while you are experimenting with this type of carry:

IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE HOLSTERING YOUR GUN IN THE APPENDIX POSITION, AND IT DISCHARGES, YOU WILL DIE.

I'm in no way trying to discourage anyone, but simply trying to remind everyone (myself included) of a very important fact of AIWB life. :)

Roger that.

It's not a game, and it's not about the latest fashion or what is hip or cool. It's 'real deal' in every sense of the phrase.

I say again: Roger that.

Tony Mayer
06-29-2012, 07:48 PM
Good to know my holsters are working out for everyone. BOM, very well said, appendix carry brings with it a heightened sense of trigger finger awareness and "reluctant re-holstering".

Up1911Fan
06-30-2012, 10:20 PM
I'm getting the idea that lots of you guys are using Tony's holster to start your venture into appendix carry, and that is fantastic.

Please remember this while you are experimenting with this type of carry:

IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE HOLSTERING YOUR GUN IN THE APPENDIX POSITION, AND IT DISCHARGES, YOU WILL DIE.

I'm in no way trying to discourage anyone, but simply trying to remind everyone (myself included) of a very important fact of AIWB life. :)

Agree with everything you said. I did spend a few month's daily dry firing and carrying a G19 in an Archangel and like AIWB just not that holster, or the glock really. Switched to an M&P9 and think i'm gonna try one of these.

ubervic
07-01-2012, 10:07 AM
UPDATE

I've been carrying an unloaded M&P9FS around the house for the past several days and find this holster remarkably comfortable, stable and secure while also providing just about the greatest level of worry-free concealment that I've experienced. After a few years of 3:30-4 o'clock carry, and after trying inferior AIWB holsters before, I am amazed at how comfortable and simple carrying really is with this JM Custom Kydex rig. Standing, sitting, bending over, walking---you name it: no problem. Great holster.

I'm a short, stocky guy at 5'7" 175 lbs., and I had been concerned that my paunch-gut would work against me in concealing AIWB. However, I have found that this mode of carry works exceedingly with a great holster design and by allowing the gun to find its own sweet spot, so to speak, by working with, rather than against, the natural contours of your physique. That is to say, in my case, the muzzle rests towards the pelvic fold between thigh and groin, and the grip tucks in snugly within the concave sweep between my centerline 'paunch' and my side---the area between 1 o'clock and about 2:30. Best of all, when I'm standing or walking, I know the gun is there, but it does NOT bounce or weigh-down on my body as noticeably as carrying on or behind the hip always does. It just feels more natural to carry in this manner.

Though I have held a deep respect for trigger discipline beginning way back in 1977 (a Hunter Safety course taught after school), and it's been reinforced during more than 20 years of recreational and competitive shotgunning plus a few years carrying/drawing/reholstering "behind the hip," this appendix-carry takes everything up the SERIOUS scale about 36 notches. I've been practicing drawing and re-holstering---UNLOADED---with a prime focus on a "hard break" pause after pulling gun back into ready position, with trigger-finger high up on barrel/frame prior to a slow, deliberate and careful reholstering. More unloaded practice and observation to follow.

Madnik
07-04-2012, 02:15 PM
"Biggest issue I had with the Fricke Archangel is that it had no grip tucking ability."

This. If Fricke modifies the AA to tuck the grip, it will be very competitive.

As for my JM Custom Kydex AIWB, I seem to have found my sweet spot in terms of position, ride height of belt, and tightness of belt. The result is a very discreet and comfortable carry that affords a faster draw and more security then carrying IWB afforded me.

tmoore912
07-16-2012, 06:10 PM
Tony,

Is it possible to build one of your AIWB holsters with the ability to hold a G19/G17 with one of the new Crimson Trace Rail Master Universal Tactical Light (http://www.crimsontrace.com/01-3260) for Rail Equipped Pistols? This light is pretty new by a month or so, but seems it could be a compact light for CC purposes. Let me know what you think.

If anyone has some feedback on this new light please let us know what you think. Thanks.

Tony Mayer
07-16-2012, 09:57 PM
tmoore912, I have done a couple appendix rigs with this light and haven't heard that they were uncomfortable so short answer is yes I can do them. My .02 cents on the light is that it is a well made product, however I think (can of worms about to open I'm sure) the whole being a civilian and having a light on your ccw gun is over rated and frankly not needed. The other issue I have with this light is the activation switch, pressure with your middle finger, is prone to ND's with white light, unless your lucky enough to train a ton.YMMV. Having said that, it's a quality light from what I've seen.

Tony Mayer
07-16-2012, 10:08 PM
tmoore912, should've looked at the light you described first, I have done the lightguard, not the railmaster, so activation of the light is different. I haven't done an appendix rig with that model, however I did do an IWB with their railmaster laser, same paddle setup. With the activation paddle's on the side, it's very easy to have an ND by drawing your pistol at a slight angle and having the paddles bump the inside of the holster, which activates the light. Crimson Trace makes good stuff, but not a fan of their paddle activation switch.

senorlechero
07-21-2012, 12:15 PM
Do you make these for Glocks with an X300 mounted?

What about RMRs or T1/H1?

I got your G34 rig and it made a huge difference in my ability to carry successfully.

Up1911Fan
07-21-2012, 12:20 PM
I recieved my OWB and mag pouch yesterday and have been wearing both since. Really like the holster, so far I like it better than any of the other kydex holster's i've used ( and i've tried quite a few). Fit's my body perfectly ( they don't all fit that good), conceal's well and the ride height is perfect.

Tony Mayer
07-22-2012, 04:25 PM
senorlechero, I can make it with a wml, not sure how comfortable it would be but if you want to give it a try we can. As for the RMR or H1, I would need some more specifics on how your pistol is set up so pm me and we will talk about it.

Up1911Fan, thanks for the kind words and glad you like it.

Andy in NH
07-22-2012, 04:48 PM
Tony,

Your PM box is full!

I'm also interested in buying a AIWB holster for a WML.


... pm me and we will talk about it.


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Tony Mayer
07-22-2012, 06:36 PM
Andy, pm box cleared.

htomeheb
07-23-2012, 10:11 AM
Just another +1 to Tony for making a solid holster.

This is my first AIWB holster for a fullsize. At first i was kind of apprehensive, as i've been carrying a PPS aiwb for a while, and was unsure of how the larger pistol would conceal.

However, I can safely say that with this holster I can easily and comfortably carry a fullsize M&P9.

I'm a fan for sure!

Tony Mayer
07-23-2012, 10:00 PM
htomeheb, glad that you can now carry a more efficient gun.

senorlechero
07-24-2012, 08:11 PM
senorlechero, I can make it with a wml, not sure how comfortable it would be but if you want to give it a try we can. As for the RMR or H1, I would need some more specifics on how your pistol is set up so pm me and we will talk about it.

Up1911Fan, thanks for the kind words and glad you like it.

I'm not sure either, but having a WML is a good thing so I want to try it. Right now I only have a G34 with an H1 in the dovetail mount, I'm on the wait list for an ATOM setup.

MEAT
07-31-2012, 09:51 AM
Hey Tony, I sent you a PM with a few questions I need answered before I place my order.

Tony Mayer
07-31-2012, 07:05 PM
Meat, pm sent. Thanks

MEAT
07-31-2012, 10:32 PM
Meat, pm sent. Thanks

Thanks for the fast reply!

I have a few more questions.
Who has one with the "extra tuck" option?
Who didn't go with that option?
Would you change your mind if you had to do it over again?

dickmadison
07-31-2012, 11:00 PM
Thanks for the fast reply!

I have a few more questions.
Who has one with the "extra tuck" option?
Who didn't go with that option?
Would you change your mind if you had to do it over again?

Damn, that option wasn't available when I got my holster. I probably would have went with it. I still like the holster I got though.

Tony Mayer
07-31-2012, 11:06 PM
MEAT, I just put the extra tuck option on my website today, I have been wearing it daily for the last month and I love it.A couple other people have been wearing it for awhile and will probably be putting up a review shortly. The extra tuck will help conceal full size guns and if your not the poster child for appendix carry, myself included, it will keep the gun snug to the body. Per my warranty, if you don't like it in the first two weeks, you can return it for a full refund or swap it for something else. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks

MEAT
07-31-2012, 11:56 PM
MEAT, I just put the extra tuck option on my website today, I have been wearing it daily for the last month and I love it.A couple other people have been wearing it for awhile and will probably be putting up a review shortly. The extra tuck will help conceal full size guns and if your not the poster child for appendix carry, myself included, it will keep the gun snug to the body. Per my warranty, if you don't like it in the first two weeks, you can return it for a full refund or swap it for something else. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks

Thanks again!!!

I just placed my order. I opted for the extra tuck, and included notes for the sweatguard specs.

Dave

Dragun
08-01-2012, 05:15 PM
What is the extra tuck modification?

MEAT
08-01-2012, 06:15 PM
What is the extra tuck modification?

From JM Custom Kydex's website:

For those who want extra tuck, we can add a "wedge" at the muzzle end of the holster. This will help tuck the grip of the gun in to the body even more. It is rounded on the body side and is very comfortable.


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/rabara9/63307075.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/rabara9/ad901fe0.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/rabara9/75ef900c.jpg

MEAT
08-01-2012, 06:24 PM
MEAT, I just put the extra tuck option on my website today

It looks like my inability to make a decision on a AIWB holster actually did me a favor! It worked out perfectly that the day I place my order was the day you made the "extra tuck" option available. Thanks again for all your help, I can't wait to get that thing in my pants. Wait...uhhh, yeah... that... ummm, that didn't come out right. You know what I meant, right?

Tony Mayer
08-01-2012, 09:39 PM
MEAT, its all good.....not gonna judge. :0) And thanks for posting those pics.

littlejerry
08-05-2012, 12:14 PM
Well shoot, I just went to order a G17 AIWB holster today and the site won't let me add a AIWB holster without the tuck modification. It wants you to select an option under the Tuck drop-down menu but the only option is to add tuck.

Tony Mayer
08-05-2012, 12:55 PM
littlejerry, sorry for the hassle. My web people tell me they're trying to fix it. Will know more on Monday, and I responded to your email. Thanks for the heads up.

Up1911Fan
08-06-2012, 10:19 PM
Finally got my order in today. Actually, the girlfriend ordered it for my birthday. Look's like I waited to long, Tony's going on his honeymoon untill september 15th, I leave for the MDOC academy on the 17th. Oh well, congrat's Tony.

Tony Mayer
08-06-2012, 10:40 PM
Up1911Fan, thanks. I may get it out before I leave on the 1st of September, it will be close.

Up1911Fan
08-07-2012, 08:56 AM
That would be great! Either way, enjoy your time away from the shop.

ubervic
08-07-2012, 12:07 PM
That 'extra tuck' looks like the ticket!

Up1911Fan
08-07-2012, 12:50 PM
Yeah I went with the extra tuck, kydex loop. Really looking forward to this holster. Love my OWB and Mag pouch from JM.

JDM
08-13-2012, 08:20 PM
I got my JM AIWB rig for my SIG 226R today, and Wow!

A 226 isn't exactly a compact gun, and I was afraid I may have been a little ambitious thinking I could carry one in the same fashion as my M&Ps. Ambitious I was not...Even having used Tony's holsters in the past didn't really prepare me for how good a solution to the 226 problem this holster was going to be. Along the way, Tony seems to be making incremental improvements to the execution of his holsters, and it shows. I'm really pleased.

I ordered the "extra tuck" option this time around, and while it doesn't look substantial when examining the holster, it sure is substantial when the holster is in place. The gun disappears really well in a JM rig to begin with, but the ET option is an awesome enhancement.

Thanks, Tony!

Tony Mayer
08-13-2012, 09:08 PM
BOM , glad you like it and that it's working out for you.

By the way everyone, there were a few issues with my website, specifically the extra tuck option and not letting the customer order without it, that have been fixed. Thanks

NickDrak
08-13-2012, 10:54 PM
Order placed!

joshs
08-18-2012, 08:39 PM
I've been using one of Tony's appendix holsters with the "extra tuck" for about two months. For me, appendix holsters that focus on tucking the grip work well with pistols that have lower profile slides (Glock). But, when carrying guns that have a higher slide (HK and Sig), holsters that only tuck the grip do not pull/push the rear of the slide in well enough to conceal well on me. This is especially apparent for me when carrying a pistol with a short and tall slide in the CCC Shaggy. The grip completely disappears, but the pistol tends to roll forward over my belt to the point where the rear of the slide prints in all but the loosest of cover garments.

The JM AIWB does a very good job of tucking both the grip and the rear of the slide to provide a very good level of concealment without compromising the ability to get a full grip on the gun. In addition to the wedge to tuck the grip and the "extra tuck" bump to push in the rear of the slide, the bushings used between the kydex loop and the holster body provide an extremely rigid connection, which helps to counter the forward roll that grip-heavy short-slide pistols tend to exhibit when appendix carried.

Besides the concealment features, the JM AIWB also has proper, for me, ride-height (Tony can adjust this via separate kydex loops), very little material under the dustcover, and a low-profile sweatguard (even the "full" version) that does not interfere with gripping the pistol in the holster or putting the pistol in backwards for WHO manipulations.

969
Front view.

970
View of the "wedge." You cannot tell from the photo, but the mag release can still be operated in the holster. This is not very common with P30 holsters.

971
Side view of the "extra tuck" bump.

972
Rear view showing the "extra tuck" bump. While the bump looks odd, it works well for me.

tmoore912
08-20-2012, 01:21 PM
I decided to try a Crimson Trace Lightguard for my G17/G19. I wanted to see if it could work for me for my everyday setup carried appendix. My current setup is a JM holster, and it has been perfect for me. So I called and talked to Tony and ordered an appendix holster for a G17 with a CT Lightguard attached. The holster came in on Saturday, and I have been wearing it since. It is a little different design because of the light, but it rides just as well as my original JM holster. This one did come with the extra tuck feature and seems to work very well, so I won't need to add a little foam to the bottom.

I've been doing plenty of practice draws and dry fire, and so far so good. Comfort is as good as the original even while seated or squating down to pick up something. Retention is good, and might be a little too good. I had to back out the retention screws a little bit to get it to draw like I like it, but it seems I have found the sweet spot.

Tony, thanks for another quality holster. I really appreciate it.

Lightguard holster compared to the original.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii218/tmoore912/Holsters/AIWB/IMG_3493.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii218/tmoore912/Holsters/AIWB/IMG_3491.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii218/tmoore912/Holsters/AIWB/IMG_3494.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii218/tmoore912/Holsters/AIWB/IMG_3505.jpg

guymontag
08-20-2012, 02:45 PM
I procured a Walther P99 replica (ASP#07327) for JM Custom Kydex. While not as abundant in use as the Glock/M&P, I thought I would mention it for the readers of the forum. Tony Mayer has been good with communication/accommodation.

I placed my order for an AIWB holster, and now the waiting begins.

Tony Mayer
08-21-2012, 09:29 AM
tmoore912 , that looks like it worked out great, glad you like it.

guymontag, thanks for the kind words.

K-Fura
08-21-2012, 10:18 AM
I have been using a JM AIWB with the Extra Tuck for about two weeks now myself. I am a LH P30 shooter. I don't have any experience at all with the non extra tuck option version of this holster but I wish I did to see how it compares. I am a lean athletic build and I don't exactly print but the bulge around my front waist area is more than ideal I think. The gun itself doesn't print at all, I just feel that the extra tuck option may be making the holster a little too thick right at the point where you want the holster to be very slim. I wanted to ask for those of you who have experience with both what do you think on this matter??? I am potentially considering ordering the non-ET version to see if it functions better. But i've been reading the posts and I'm not sure if that would create an issue elsewhere. Like the one above, I feel I could just attach Velcro toward the muzzle. I currently have a kydex clip on the way to replace the snaps to see if I can thin out the profile a bit. I'd be interested to see the ET option shaved to the holsters original profile about halfway before it reaches the mouth. Either way overall the holster has been amazing. Amazing grip, ride height, comfort, and overall concealment.

Up1911Fan
08-21-2012, 12:30 PM
All these picture's are making me really want mine! I haven't looked forward to trying a holster like this one in a long time.

joshs
08-21-2012, 01:07 PM
K-Fura,

I didn't notice a difference in how much the loop prints with the ET or non-ET. I'm using the solid kydex loop, which is thiner than the soft loops.

Up1911Fan
08-29-2012, 08:17 PM
Mine shipped today! Looking forward to trying this out.

Goldtop
08-29-2012, 10:13 PM
I got my JM AIWB rig for my SIG 226R today, and Wow!

A 226 isn't exactly a compact gun, and I was afraid I may have been a little ambitious thinking I could carry one in the same fashion as my M&Ps. Ambitious I was not...Even having used Tony's holsters in the past didn't really prepare me for how good a solution to the 226 problem this holster was going to be. Along the way, Tony seems to be making incremental improvements to the execution of his holsters, and it shows. I'm really pleased.

I ordered the "extra tuck" option this time around, and while it doesn't look substantial when examining the holster, it sure is substantial when the holster is in place. The gun disappears really well in a JM rig to begin with, but the ET option is an awesome enhancement.

Thanks, Tony!


BOM, do you have any pictures of the gun/holster combination out or on your person? I am new to the AIWB world, but I have been looking for the most effective means to conceal my P226 for some time.

Also, any further thoughts you may have since you've had it a while. Thanks.

JDM
08-29-2012, 10:19 PM
Goldtop, I'll have some photos for you tomorrow afternoon. I'm not at home, and am currently carrying my gun in a different holster.

littlejerry
08-31-2012, 06:36 PM
I just received my g17 holster and all I can say is WOW. I've been carrying in a cane and derby parradus aiwb rig for about a year now. The JM holster conceals my glock 19 better than I thought was possible! It is car superior to the c&d rig. Part of the difference may be from the different lengths though.

One complaint that it seems like the trigger isn't covered as well. The mag release isn't covered and it appears that the material covering the trigger is lower and more susceptible to getting clothing stuffed into it when reholstering. I'm going to try a different under shirt to see if that solves the problem.

MEAT
09-08-2012, 05:23 PM
I’ll start my review by giving a little background on the holsters I have used up until now:

Milt Sparks VM2 - HK45C
TT Gunleather IWB - Glock 30SF
CompTac MTAC - Glock 17, 20SF, 21SF, 23, 26, 30SF
Galco Triton (CompTac Infidel clone) – Glock 26
Cobra Gunskin X2 AIWB (similar to High Noon Mr. Softy) - Glock 26
High Noon Public Secret AIWB – Glock 26
Alessi APX AIWB - S&W 442


I’ve been wearing mine for a couple weeks, and I’m nothing short of amazed by this holster. It is by far the most comfortable IWB holster I have ever worn, let alone AIWB. I would have never guessed AIWB could be this comfortable, especially with a full size Glock. Everything about this holster is perfect for me. I can get into my lifted truck & drive more comfortably than I ever have before while carrying. I can bend down and pick stuff up off the ground, pick up my 1y/o daughter & 3y/o son, sit on the couch or the dinner table, clean the pool, do yard work, you name it, I can do it with this holster more comfortably than I’ve ever been able to. Hell, I can even throw some knees and combos & do squats like JJ Raccaza in his video for the Five-O holster. I liked it so much, that I ordered one for my S&W Shield within a day or two of getting it. I already sold my G17 MTAC, and I’ll be listing my G20/21 MTAC as soon as I get around to it. For body type comparison, I'm 6'0, 225lbs with a 48" Chest & 38" waist.


Ride Height:
The ride height is perfect. It sits as low as possible for me, while still allowing me to get a consistent grip/draw. The other AIWB holsters I’ve tried either sat too high & printed badly (High Noon Public Secret), or sat too low & made the draw difficult/inconsistent (Cobra X2, Alessi APX).

Wedge/Tuck:
The wedge tucks my G17 against my torso like it was custom fit. It doesn’t stick out at all, and it’s not tucked so hard that it presses into my abdomen.

Extra Tuck:
The extra tuck also feels custom made for me. Again, it tilts the gun back into my abdomen perfectly & feels like it balances right on the belt. Another benefit to the extra tuck is that it rounds the side of the holster that contacts your body. Instead of having a fairly square edged piece of kydex that sticks & hangs up during movement, the roundness of the extra tuck feature allows the holster to move more freely and not hang up.

Mounting Options:
I bought the holster with the pull-the-dot snaps, but I also ordered the kydex loop. As I’ve read a few times before, the PTD snaps printed pretty badly for me. I put the kydex loop on, and it’s money. My Wilderness CSM Instructor Belt & 5.11 Kydex Lined Leather Belt fit easily in the kydex loop, and both being polymer/kydex lined, they’re thicker than the standard 5-Stitch.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/rabara9/23731E1F-17F8-463F-ACB0-BEF415A034F4-577-00000119773B5332.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/rabara9/B103B882-85BF-4223-AE92-2CE1584F483E-577-00000119D9FBDB31.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/rabara9/122A31F6-A0B1-4BCC-87AF-C7FB0A769508-577-0000011996D4AA65.jpg


.

Up1911Fan
09-08-2012, 06:50 PM
I've been wearing mine for a little over a week and couldn't be happier with it. I knew there was a way to make AIWB work for me, after trying a few holsters with no luck, this is the ticket. I'm 5'10'' and only weigh 155lbs with a 31" waist, this conceal's my M&P9 FS without any issues. Still trying to decide what position I want to wear my belt buckle at, I think i've settled on 2ish for now. I was impressed with JM when I got my mag pouch and OWB, I won't be ordering kydex from anyone else now.

Isaac
09-10-2012, 06:57 AM
They sure are good looking too.

littlejerry
09-10-2012, 08:33 AM
Still loving my holster. Been carrying with a t shirt lately without any real issues. These damn leather loops print like crazy though.. I may have to order a lured loop to try out.

Comfort is very good. I'll be making a 5 hour drive in a few weeks and will report back on comfort.

dieselvrr
09-19-2012, 02:29 PM
I just ordered one...excited to see what all the fuss is about!

NickDrak
09-23-2012, 02:21 AM
Just got mine in the mail today....WOW:D

Super J
09-23-2012, 06:54 AM
Just got mine in the mail today....WOW:D

Come on Nick...give us details beyond wow.

NickDrak
09-25-2012, 02:30 PM
Come on Nick...give us details beyond wow.

Ok, my experience with AIWB holsters has been with a CCC Looper, a Ludus Magnus AIWB holster along with a few other makeshift AIWB holsters.

My first observation was thinking how bulky the JM Custom is compared to the others I have worn. The bulk is there by design to assist with tucking the grip of the pistol in tight. It works. Damn well.

I was concerned that the extra bulk would equal less comfort. Not at all. The holster is contoured very nicely. It seems a lot of thought went into the design of this holster.

vandal
09-28-2012, 11:26 AM
Question on the IWB loops -- are there two different types? I've got one JM holster with thin, flexible, rubbery loops, but the one I just got came with thick leather loops. I much prefer the thin loops but I don't see how to order those on the website.

Tony Mayer
09-28-2012, 07:43 PM
vandal, i still have some of them, pm me your order number and i will get you a set out on Monday.

Up1911Fan
09-28-2012, 08:23 PM
Ordered my second one yesterday. Awesome holster.

Isaac
10-09-2012, 12:52 PM
Normally I dont post about a product unless I'm pretty impressed, in this case- I am. Ordered the day he left before his honeymoon, got it today. This thing conceals, the carry height is great, the kydex is not bulky or sharp. Two thumbs up!

DI1
10-18-2012, 10:16 AM
Mine came in Monday for Sig 229 no-rail.
Excellent fit and comfort.
Very happy with it.

Tony Mayer
10-18-2012, 09:09 PM
isis07734, DI1, and Up1911Fan, thanks for the kind words and the business. Good to know they are working for you all.

barnaby
10-19-2012, 04:41 PM
Received mine for a HK P2000 last night. Very well done. I'm impressed with the attention placed on the molding around the trigger guard and the attention to any edges that would lay against the wearers leg.


Holster fits 'snug' no using this for a P30 :-)

t101
11-07-2012, 11:57 PM
Tony:

I just placed an order last week for my second of your AIWB holsters. It is going to be for a Glock 22 with the extra tuck option.

I struggled to remember if my previous order was for the thinner or thicker kydex option. I placed the order for the thin option, but was wondering if there would be any benefit to bumping it up to the .090 thickness?

Tony Mayer
11-09-2012, 09:18 PM
t101, sorry for the delay in responding. .093 is going to be a little stiffer, so retention will be a little better and it will be a little tougher in the long run, however .080 is still a great compromise in thickness, retention, strength, and durability. If you want to change it, just let me know. Thanks

SPDGG
02-01-2013, 05:48 PM
Thank you to everyone for posting their experience/feedback, pics of the JM Custom Kydex AIWB Holster.
All the posts really did help me narrow down which AIWB would be best suited for "me".

BIG Thank You to "Tony Mayer" for taking the time to answer my various questions, TOP NOTCH Custom Service.

I look forward to contributing to this thread once I have some time with this holster.

Thanks again & Have a great one :)

JDM
02-01-2013, 05:51 PM
Just ordered another AIWB holster for my 228.

Couldn't be happier with the product Tony puts out...well, maybe if I could get an orange one. :p

JV_
02-01-2013, 05:55 PM
I borrowed GMJ's AIWB holster for the Glock 34. I had to mail it back this Thursday and promptly ordered one for myself. It a well done holster, I like it.

EMC
02-01-2013, 06:06 PM
I have an order in the queue with a newly featured split kydex loop design. I will be glad to give a review when it comes in.

JDM
02-01-2013, 06:15 PM
I have an order in the queue with a newly featured split kydex loop design. I will be glad to give a review when it comes in.

Looking forward to your thoughts on the split loop.

I was going to pick that option, but couldn't think of when is use it.

EMC
02-01-2013, 06:25 PM
Looking forward to your thoughts on the split loop.

I was going to pick that option, but couldn't think of when is use it.

Yes it seems like a compromise on potential durability versus adaptability. I have a few pairs of pants with a belt loop that might limit my sweet spot. Hence the ability to thread the belt loop in between kydex loops. If it turns out to be a non issue I'll buy an extra solid loop.

Tony Mayer
02-01-2013, 08:51 PM
SPDGG, your more than welcome and thanks for the business.

BOM, thanks for the business....and I can get orange if you want one.

JV, thanks for the business and glad you like the design.

EMC, the split loop is made from .093 kydex so it should be durable enough. If you have any questions about them let me know and thanks for the business.

JDM
02-01-2013, 09:11 PM
SPDGG, your more than welcome and thanks for the business.

BOM, thanks for the business....and I can get orange if you want one.

JV, thanks for the business and glad you like the design.

EMC, the split loop is made from .093 kydex so it should be durable enough. If you have any questions about them let me know and thanks for the business.

Pm inbound.

Kyle Reese
02-02-2013, 12:37 AM
Ordered one last week for my Glock 17's. Can't wait to get it.

Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2

EVP
02-02-2013, 12:01 PM
I have a JM custom AIWB for a M&p 9 pro 5 inch with the extra tuck option and the split loop. It is an excellent holster. The kydex work is very well done some of the best I have seen. It was pretty cool to be able to conceal a 5in barreled m&p under a T-shirt. The split loop works well with a particular pair of pants and makes a rigid setup that does not move. I had a buddy try it with his standard size m&p 9 and he was pretty stoked as how we'll it conceals.

I have since decided to stick with glock 19s and sadly I have to part with the holster but I am going to order another in a glock 17 size.

senorlechero
02-02-2013, 09:31 PM
Is anyone running JMs mag pouches for double stack mags?

How are they working for you?

Corlissimo
02-02-2013, 11:03 PM
Hi Tony,

You Inbox is full again dude! :)


~ Typos brought to you by my laziness & in attention to detail.

Tony Mayer
02-02-2013, 11:12 PM
Corlissimo, just emptied it. Thanks

saltydog452
02-02-2013, 11:19 PM
Like a 2" J frame, 3" M13, or a 4" Cmbt Magnum?

Thanks,

salty

Tony Mayer
02-02-2013, 11:38 PM
saltydog452, I have built quite a few OWB and IWB holsters for j-frames and the ruger lcr. Have not had any requests for aiwb holsters for revolvers yet. I have molds for the 2" j-frame and can get a 4" K frame so I can make holsters for them as well . Thanks

saltydog452
02-03-2013, 12:59 AM
Thanks Tony. I, most likely, cross-threaded this thread. My bad. Information about carry options for wheel guns is what I was trying to ask about. Appendix only didn't cross my mind.

salty

rjohnson4405
02-04-2013, 11:43 AM
Now that it's been brought up I'd be very interested in an AIWB holster for a Ruger LCR compatible with and without Crimson Trace LGs.

Captain
02-04-2013, 11:53 AM
I got my first AIWB holster early last week. I got the JM holster for a fullsize M&P9 with the extra tuck. I was actually surprised how quickly I was able to get the holster to be comfortable - though I can already see where the split loop would have been a good option, if it had been available when I ordered. I've got a couple of pants that I can't quite get it into the right spot. Other than that, I'm a convert to AIWB and now a customer of JM for sure. Thanks Tony!

Corlissimo
02-04-2013, 05:10 PM
View of the "wedge." You cannot tell from the photo, but the mag release can still be operated in the holster. This is not very common with P30 holsters.



Josh,

Have you experienced any incidences of accidental magazine releases?

~ Typos brought to you by my laziness & in attention to detail.

EMC
02-09-2013, 07:10 PM
Looking forward to your thoughts on the split loop.

I was going to pick that option, but couldn't think of when is use it.

Recieved my holster today. The split loop feels durable and you can thread a belt loop between the kydex loops if you want no problem. I'm impressed with how well the "extra tuck" feature keeps the grip in tight while the normal ride height allows for a perfect grip on the draw without compromising much in the way of concealment. Good design.

http://imageshack.us/a/img839/739/rps20130209180230.jpg

Corlissimo
02-10-2013, 02:27 AM
Put my order in the other day.
Going for the WML option too. I spoke with Tony and will be sending out an Inforce APL for the molding process. I'm really looking forward to trying his stuff out. Now I just need to wait for a few weeks until it's ready. That's easier said than done.


~ Typos brought to you by my laziness & in attention to detail.

cvann
02-10-2013, 03:08 PM
Love my AIWB P30 holster! Tony does great work with a reasonable turnaround. Highly recommend him.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

SamMan23
02-24-2013, 06:00 PM
I thought this was a good video demoing this product. It's not mine but I like that it shows a lot without talking too much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80vNZEz92oQ&feature=player_detailpage

Tony Mayer
02-24-2013, 06:23 PM
SamMan23, first off thanks for the interest.
Both of the kydex loops are made from .093 kydex, I came out with the split loop for those that wanted to split a pants loop. It has an added benefit of exposed velcro for running the tale of your belt across, if your belt has that feature. The solid loop is 1 3/4" wide while the split is 2" wide. As for the high versus low ride, I came out with those as I didn't want to poke a bunch of holes in the holster, but still give the end user more options on adjusting the ride height to suit themselves. The soft loops are a polymer coated nylon fabric and are very thin and durable, also adjustable from 1 1/4" to 1 3/4" belt widths. Sweat guard are very personal to you. I tell everyone who is unsure about it to get the full guard, and if you find you don't like it full, you can send it back to me and I can grind it down to whatever length you like, free of charge, although the shipping will be on you. The extra tuck works the best with 4" barreled guns and up. If you have a shorter barreled gun ( the SW Shield or the Walther PPS for instance) I am incorporating a muzzle extension along with the extra tuck which has been working really well. My lead times are 4-5 weeks right now, usually right at 4 but I give that extra week for any unforeseen circumstances. Hope this answers all your questions, if not ask more or email me at sales@jmcustomkydex.com, and thanks.

JDM
03-09-2013, 11:14 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/10/rupytava.jpg

Proper holster review and more pictures coming in the next day or two.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/10/egejanup.jpg

joshs
03-09-2013, 11:23 PM
Josh,

Have you experienced any incidences of accidental magazine releases?

~ Typos brought to you by my laziness & in attention to detail.

Sorry I missed this. I haven't had any accidental mag releases in the holster. Just to make sure, I just tried to force holster to push the release, and I was still unable to get the mag to drop.

joshs
03-09-2013, 11:27 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/10/rupytava.jpg

Proper holster review and more pictures coming in the next day or two.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/10/egejanup.jpg

Interesting. Is the 228 holster cut differently on the back than the front to allow use of the mag release? Does the extra offset of the loop help with grip tuck?

JDM
03-09-2013, 11:37 PM
Yes, the mag release is accessible on both holsters.

The difference in cut is probably due to then longer trigger guard on the 228.

The grip tucks the same in both holsters. There is some variance in angle of the "wedge" between the holsters, with the 228 holster having a less steep wedge, which makes sense given the new location of the belt loop.

Mag release (228 in both holsters):

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/10/u4adyvus.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/10/5e5yheja.jpg

In the above photos, you can also see the depth of the gun in the holster, which is dependent upon trigger guard length. The 228 rests at a shallower depth in the 226 holster because of the longer trigger guard.

JHC
03-10-2013, 05:39 PM
I ordered one with the extra tuck for a G17 a couple weeks ago. I'm really excited to see if I can pull off carrying a 17 consistently with this rig. I was very impressed wearing my son's (G19) for a test drive. Thanks.

Mr. Goodtimes
03-11-2013, 12:17 PM
I just ordered a JM AIWB holster for my P30 with the extra tuck option based entirely on what I read about him and his holsters on this forum. I'm really excited to try it out. I carry a gun for 6-14 hours a day and need something comfortable that I can wear all day. I've been carrying in a desantis intruder and it's just not doing the trick. I'm tall (6ft 1in) with an athletic build, so, from what I've read it would seem that appendix carry should work great for me.

lightning fast
03-11-2013, 03:00 PM
I was sitting here watching TV and thought I'd snap a quick picture of my JM Custom aiwb holster. Made the quality a little worse by cranking up the brightness though.
http://i.imgur.com/LES1R69.jpg?1
This is the standard height without the extra tuck. Even seated, getting a full firing grip is easy. I don't think the picture shows it very well, but you can see the tiny amount of space between the baseplate and my shirt. I'm sure the extra tuck would make that gap reduced, and possibly disappear.

Pennzoil
03-11-2013, 03:56 PM
This weekend I used the JM Custom AIWB holster in Mike Pannone's covert carry class (excellent class) that involved 500+ draws from holster while moving in all directions at some point and time including going to the ground. Large number of one handed draws both strong and weak hand.

Here are a few things I really like about the JM Custom AIWB holster compared with the my Shaggy's. First I should mention my shaggy holsters aren't going anywhere and I still really like them but it would be hard to explain things I like about the JM Custom AIWB without comparing it to the Shaggy. AIWB holsters are really a personal fit type deal so what I like others may hate.

Pros:
- Solid loop dimensions are prefect for my leather belt and my wilderness tactical belt. For me the Shaggy solid loop is large and allows for the holster to shift and occasionally squeak when used on my leather belt.

http://imageshack.us/a/img17/3407/beltu.jpg

- Shaping of the holster in regards to the slide release. This is really a M&P specific thing for me but when I broke the right side slide release with my Shaggy the rear of the slide release bows out and catches the shelf on the wedge portion almost locking the gun in the holster. It took me awhile to work the gun out of the holster. With the JM Custom this doesn't appear like it would be an issue.

http://imageshack.us/a/img96/1818/sliderelease.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img651/9857/slidestop1.jpg

- Shape of the JM Custom holster in front of the trigger guard is a major win for how I position the gun on belt. The reduced material in front of the trigger guard removes a hot spot I had with prior AIWB holsters rubbing on my right legs inner thigh. I tried to get an outline of the holsters here to show the difference in material in front of the trigger guard.

http://imageshack.us/a/img812/1170/outlineg.jpg

- The comfort of this holster and ability to move without interference from the holster was obvious during Mike Pannone's Covert Carry course. People using other AIWB holsters (not Shaggys) were bruised after day one in the class by the AIWB holsters they used. I have used the Shaggy in 2 day classes in the past with only slight irritation but JM is still more comfortable for me.

I actually let a friend borrow my Glock 34 JM Custom holster to use on the second day of Mike Pannone's class instead of the AIWB holster he was using and he was very impressed along with the other AIWB users.


- Concealment with the extra tuck is outstanding for me and my body type. I can conceal a Glock 34 or a M&P FS 9mm under a t shirt.

Negatives:

Only negative I have is with JM customs changing the website they lost track of emails along the way so it took Tony awhile to get back to me on if he could mold the holster for a thumb safety. He mentioned to add a comment in the order about the communication miss and I'd receive free shipping. So when I ordered I put an comment in and still paid shipping. Honestly $10 extra for a holster that works for me is nothing but communication issues bother me.

With my Shaggys / BMC orders I've always had special requests and Rich at CCC is the gold standard as far as communication is regarded.

Tony Mayer
03-11-2013, 09:53 PM
Pennzoil, thanks for the great review, I really appreciate it. Totally my bad on not refunding you the shipping so I have sent you a pm to get your address to send you the $10.00. I strive to give the kind of customer service I would want so I am glad you called me on it. Thanks again.

Tony

ChrisLapre
03-12-2013, 11:48 PM
I used Pennzoil's AIWB the second day of Pannones class. It is by far the most comfortable AIWB holster I have ever used. Comfort was the first thing I noticed. I have worn it everyday since the class and am fortunate the Pennzoil has allowed me to use it for an extended time frame.

pr1042
04-09-2013, 07:29 PM
One of the best things about this forum is that my box of holsters has stayed relatively small thanks to reviews from other members....I've been using one of Tony's holsters for about a year now and recently have gone with the extra tuck version (carry a glock 19 in 17 sized holster). I am a little hyper sensitive about printing and refuse to purchase larger shirts to avoid this. The extra tuck version completely eliminates what little printing there was to be had and as an added bonus, I no longer get cut up by the rear sight.

The only issue I've had is that my Mountain Khakis have a belt loop in the way of where I like to carry so I ordered one of the split loops a week or so ago. I have a pair of Raven Concealment soft loops that I tried out before ordering the split loop but it prints much worse than the kydex loop on there. What I would consider printing would probably never be noticed by anyone but myself but I like my peace of mind

Don't have a picture of my first holster but the extra tuck pushes the grip in quite well for me. The holster also took plenty of punishment during a recent Cecil Burch seminar

http://i46.tinypic.com/21eyp1.jpg

JohnnyRico
04-10-2013, 04:49 PM
I picked up a second hand AIWB for my G17/19 and am very, very happy with it. My 19 in this holster conceals as well, if not better, than my S&W Shield in a BT AIWB holster and as we all know, the 19 is way bigger.

I'm sold. If I end up picking up the FNS that I'm lusting after this will be the first accessory I order.

Up1911Fan
04-11-2013, 11:17 AM
Tony, your inbox is full.

Tony Mayer
04-11-2013, 11:19 AM
Up1911Fan , just emptied it, thanks.

Up1911Fan
04-11-2013, 11:23 PM
I ordered what will be my 3rd AIWB from JM. The combination of the high ride belt loop and extra tuck should make this perfect. The extra tuck on my last one tucked the butt better than my Shaggy, but I like the ride height better on the Shaggy so I sold my last JM to another forum member. Really looking forward to this one!

SPDGG
04-12-2013, 06:50 PM
Does anyone have a pic of a JM Custom Kydex AIWB for the M&P Shield?

Any feedback would be much appreciated.


Thanks.

Captain
04-13-2013, 08:08 PM
All I know is that when I traded away my M&P, I traded away my best holster (JM AIWB). The Raven I got with the new HK P30 pales in comparison. Order for the new JM AIWB is in, but 4-5 weeks can't pass fast enough!

Mr. Goodtimes
04-13-2013, 10:12 PM
I just received my JM AIWB holster today and, in short, I'm totally mind fucked. I didn't know it was possible to conceal a full sized pistol so well, and so comfortably. I ordered a JM based entirely off what I read here at pistol forum. A little bit about me; I'm 6ft tall and athletic so it sounded to me that based on my body type, AIWB and me were meant to be. I carry a P30 and ordered the holster with the kydex loops and extra tuck option.

Without going into too much detail, I'm a full time college student as well as a full time employee at a local gun shop. I carry a gun A LOT (at work, never at school obviously), as in about 15 hours a day, four days a week. The gun is on me from the time I leave the house till the time I return home, going everywhere in between; so on average it's on me about 15 hours a day. I do a lot of standing, bending over, running back and fourth etc. While I could open carry I choose not to for a couple reasons, for one I think it's retarded, and secondly when I'm not at work I have to carry concealed, so, I like to keep things simple. If given the chance to screw something up, I probably will, so by carrying a gun in the exact same spot, the exact same way day in and day out, thats one less thing I'll fudge when things get weird.

I've been carrying a gun now for two years and thus far I've been through two other holsters, a DeSantis speed scabbard (OWB) and a DeSantis Intruder (clone of a Comptac). The speed scabbard was floppy and rode to high to be drawn from concealment, it practically held the gun under my arm pit and was only comfortable if kidney carried. The intruder is what I've carried in the longest but it had some serious problems, one I couldn't really carry in a T shirt with it, it was also designed more for kidney carry and it was extremely uncomfortable, it also, for reasons I don't know, caused me to walk funny when wearing it, almost like I had a limp. So one thing these holsters all had in common was, they sucked. They didn't conceal well and they caused me to walk like a retard.

I'm thoroughly impressed with my JM holster and it's made me a huge proponent of AIWB carry. I'm now able to carry my P30 wearing a fitted T-Shirt, and it's not sketchy, the gun completely disappears. I haven't tried it on a shot timer yet but it certainly feels like my draws from concealment are a good bit faster than carrying at 9 or 8 oclock (lefty). It's far more comfortable as well doing everything I do; sitting, standing, bending over, talking to idiots about smith and wesson bodyguards... The holster is great and John has made a customer for life, the quality of the holster is second to none. Everything about the holster is just "right."


EDIT: With my JM holster I can once again walk like a normal human being.

jd24876
04-16-2013, 03:08 PM
does anyone have a photo of p250 in JW AIWB?

JBP55
04-21-2013, 08:25 PM
I ordered one of the JM holsters today.

jmjames
04-21-2013, 08:40 PM
I ordered one of the JM holsters today.

This thread's been twisting my arm for a year now... I put an order in this weekend too. :D

J.Ja

Mr. Goodtimes
04-21-2013, 09:24 PM
This thread's been twisting my arm for a year now... I put an order in this weekend too. :D

J.Ja

IDK why I put it off for so long. I'm a total AIWB convert now. Very effective way to carry a pistol. Now I just need to order a good belt.

Paxamus
05-03-2013, 12:55 PM
Just placed my order, cant wait to get it for my USP Compact!!!

Paxamus
06-05-2013, 09:46 AM
Just got my AIWB in from JM Customs- WOW!!! Talk about amazing customer service- He called me before starting my order and asked some questions- next thing you know I get an AMAZING holster in the mail- Looks like I'll be spending some more money with him in the near future!!

Tony Mayer
06-05-2013, 01:49 PM
Paxamus, thanks and glad you like it.

Mr. Goodtimes, its overdue, but thanks for the kind words and the business.

jmjames, JBP55, Captain, Up1911Fan, an overdue thanks for the business, we really appreciate it.


SPDGG, what would you like to know ? I don't have any pics of Shield holsters as of now but next time I make one I will take a pic for you.

jd24876, same goes for the 250, next one I make I will take pics for you.

Thanks
Tony

jmjames
06-05-2013, 09:49 PM
I've been a bit overdue to provide some feedback on it too!

I gotta say, I am VERY pleased with this holster (standard tuck, standard ride height). I'm carrying a P30. With my previous IWB (a hybrid model), I had to carry it WAY around my waist, closer to 6:00 than 3:00, anything close to 3:00 would make the butt stick out behind me and it would be pretty obvious that I had a big something under a shirt. It was hard for me to draw well because I had it so far back. To add to my discomfort, it seemed like my shirt was constantly getting hung on the butt of the gun, making the shirt ride up at best, and expose the gun at worst. I have two kids (about to turn 6 and 2) so I am constantly needing to bend over, which made the issue of the butt getting caught a really big deal. It's no fault of the holster I was using, just a fact of life presented by my build. Because I live in SC, I virtually never wear a jacket or any kind of over garment, so I really have to use a holster that works with just a shirt.

Switching to the JMCK AIWB has been night and day for me. The concealment is excellent. I'm 5'10", 230 lbs., some of that's gym weight, some of that is buffet line weight, and the gun the disappears. I went days before my wife even noticed it, and she only noticed it because she felt it. There were a lot of places where I *could* carry, but I wouldn't; I now carry in those places. After a few days of making a few adjustments (like belt tension and buckle placement, pants ride height, etc.) it is very comfortable. It digs into my thigh a bit when I sit in certain positions, and I'm glad I didn't opt for the extra tuck, but that's because my spare tire is putting a fair amount of pressure on it. The butt sinks into my stomach a bit and it sits just below the biggest part of the bulge, so the shirt drapes right over it without so much as a bump, and I'm wearing shirts that are properly sized for me, I don't need to put on an apron for concealment.

The ride height works great for me, I can get a full, comfortable grip on the pistol before the draw. I suspect that the extra ride height option would be great for someone a bit slimmer than me, but on my build it would just jam the gun into my gut. I can tie my shoes without issue and I've had entire days out and about with the kids without any of the concerns that I had previously. I immediately felt better drawing from it. My first few dry fire draws from concealment were miles above anything I could do with the IWB before. They are not as good as I do from an open carry OWB of course. But my previous draws were slow and inconsistent, and now I feel much more confident in my draw.

The price was great and so was the turnaround time. I received it earlier than the Web site said I would, which always makes my day.

Big thanks for an excellent product, a fair price, and quick service.

J.Ja

SPDGG
06-06-2013, 12:16 PM
SPDGG, what would you like to know ? I don't have any pics of Shield holsters as of now but next time I make one I will take a pic for you.

Tony, thanks for the post & consideration. I found pics on your FB page, so I'm gtg. :)

Have a great one

waynes
06-06-2013, 01:23 PM
OK.
You guys are driving me nuts. I used to be ok waiting for mine to show up but I'm really getting anxious.

:mad::mad::mad:


W

Kyle Reese
06-06-2013, 03:48 PM
OK.
You guys are driving me nuts. I used to be ok waiting for mine to show up but I'm really getting anxious.

:mad::mad::mad:


W

It'll be worth the wait, trust me.

rudy99
06-06-2013, 05:15 PM
I ordered my first AIWB holster based on the glowing reviews here. It will be for a Walther PPS. Looking forward to trying this out.

KeeFus
06-06-2013, 08:48 PM
I got my JM Kustom (with the extra tuck) from a PF forum member. I was really hesitant at first about carrying a M&P 9fs AIWB but some of those issues were resolved by just wearing the holster. I am still very careful about reholstering and unholstering.

The JM Kustom seems to be very well built and I have had absolutely no issues with it. It actually accepts my M&P 45 mid-size as well.

http://i.imgur.com/tTqRPgQ.jpg

Tony Mayer
06-07-2013, 10:51 AM
jmjames, thanks for the review and I am glad that it's working out for you.

waynes , FredM , and rudy99 thanks for the business.

Keefus, thanks for the pics and the business.

Clyde from Carolina
06-09-2013, 09:57 PM
Just got my JM Custom appendix rig (with extra tuck) for my P2000 a few days ago and l-o-v-e it.

Very, very nice quality and relatively quick turn-around time, too.

Mr. Goodtimes
06-10-2013, 08:11 AM
Tony, will you be making holsters for the P30L any time soon?

Tony Mayer
06-10-2013, 02:06 PM
Clyde from Carolina, glad you like it and thanks for the business.

Mr. Goodtimes, I am trying to find one to make a mold with, however I have a couple ideas to modify some of my existing molds to make it work for the P30L . Email me at jmcustomkydex@yahoo.com and we can talk about it. Thanks

jmjames
06-10-2013, 05:48 PM
Some glamor shots.

Remind me to lock the door next time, I sometimes forget that my children cannot bear the idea that I am in a room with a closed door, even a bathroom, for more than two minutes. Sometimes I wonder that I had enough privacy to have a second kid...

J.Ja

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ToddG
06-10-2013, 07:31 PM
"Mommy, why was Daddy taking pictures of himself in the bathroom mirror?"

jmjames
06-10-2013, 07:45 PM
"Mommy, why was Daddy taking pictures of himself in the bathroom mirror?"

Answer: To post on the Internet for other men to see.

That is, quite unfortunately, the correct answer...

J.Ja

punkey71
06-10-2013, 07:51 PM
What, no duck face?

:)


Answer: To post on the Internet for other men to see.

That is, quite unfortunately, the correct answer...

J.Ja



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Tony Mayer
06-12-2013, 09:11 AM
jmjames, nice pics, thanks.

freshilla
06-13-2013, 08:14 AM
Do you guys recommend a full, medium, or no guard?

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jmjames
06-13-2013, 08:23 AM
Do you guys recommend a full, medium, or no guard?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

I chose full guard, but that is because I have a P30S, and didn't want the safety giving me a second belly button.

J.Ja

freshilla
06-13-2013, 08:47 AM
I guess I could always get a full guard then trim it down if I don't like it. It's for a G19.

I'm also unsure of which thickness to get (0.80 vs 0.93).

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Paxamus
06-13-2013, 09:39 AM
I got the thinner and it is thick enough, good retention and stays open when pistol drawn

JHC
06-13-2013, 11:53 AM
What, no duck face?

:)





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LOL!!! thanks, I just learned what duck face is. :confused:

JBP55
06-13-2013, 01:00 PM
Paxamus, thanks and glad you like it.

Mr. Goodtimes, its overdue, but thanks for the kind words and the business.

jmjames, JBP55, Captain, Up1911Fan, an overdue thanks for the business, we really appreciate it.


SPDGG, what would you like to know ? I don't have any pics of Shield holsters as of now but next time I make one I will take a pic for you.

jd24876, same goes for the 250, next one I make I will take pics for you.

Thanks
Tony


Tony,
Thank You for a great holster. I am going to show it to some local plainclothes LEO who need better holsters.

James

freshilla
06-13-2013, 08:01 PM
I chose full guard, but that is because I have a P30S, and didn't want the safety giving me a second belly button.

J.Ja


I got the thinner and it is thick enough, good retention and stays open when pistol drawn

Thanks for both your input. I ordered a full-size 0.080.

Mr. Goodtimes
06-13-2013, 08:39 PM
I initially did no sweat guard and I should have done full, as you can always take some off. I would also recommend the .080... Plenty thick and strong with out being bulky. I just ordered one for a G19 and this time did the full sweat guard.

DGI
06-16-2013, 05:45 AM
Great reviews everyone!

Im getting ready to order my first JM AIWB holster. I currently daily carry a G36 and have messed with AIWB in the past but havent found a holster that tucks the gun into my gut enough to keep it comfortable all day long.

I also have a G26 and G19 on order. From what Ive seen with other holster makers, a G36 holster should work with the 26 and 19... Should I assume that the JM should work similarly? I wouldnt mind ordering seperate holsters per application but if I can save some $$$ and have an interchangeable holster... More $$$ for training :-)

Any help would be appreciated.

Im planning on getting the mid length sweat shield, extra tuck option and both the leather snaps and the split kydex belt loop.

Bill Lance
06-16-2013, 07:51 AM
Just ordered mine for a FS M&P. :cool:

Tony Mayer
06-16-2013, 08:47 PM
DGI, freshilla, and Bill Lance, thanks for the business, appreciate it.

DGI re the G36 fitting the 26 and 19, the 36 may fit in the 19 holster (the 26 has shorter barrel length than 36 so a 26 will not fit the 36) , I will check and see for you. Thanks

Mr. Goodtimes
06-16-2013, 09:03 PM
Tony, I just ordered a AIWB for my G19 with the soft loops (going to give them a try) If the soft loops don't work for me are the split kydex loops from my P30 holster interchangeable?

Tony Mayer
06-16-2013, 11:21 PM
Mr. Goodtimes, yes they are interchangeable. Thanks

DGI
06-17-2013, 12:52 AM
Tony, I ordered the G36 holster... Let me know if the 19 will fit if you could (i dont yet have a G19).

I figure Id get the jump on ordering since im overseas for thr next 4 weeks :-)

JBP55
06-20-2013, 06:29 PM
Tony, I know several shooters that need a AIWB holster that will accept a WML. Do you offer a holster such as this?

Lon
06-20-2013, 08:18 PM
Just got a shipping notification for my order. Less than 4 weeks since the order. That's good service.

Tony Mayer
06-21-2013, 02:45 PM
DGI, the 19 will not fit in a 36 holster. The 36 "kinda" fits in a 19, but is not ideal. Thanks

JBP55, I can , however the only two lights that, in my experience , work are the Inforce APL or the Crimson Trace Lightguard. Thanks

Lon, thanks for the business, I appreciate it.

wilco423
06-22-2013, 09:30 AM
I got my holster for my M&P 45fs a few weeks ago now. This is my first foray into AIWB, and I'm really liking it. I wore it for 22 hours of driving over three days and found it very comfortable. The holster is very well made and between the wedge and extra tuck, it pretty much disappears. Just ordered another one for a 1911. Keep it up, Tony!

Clusterfrack
06-24-2013, 07:29 PM
This my first post on this forum. Some of you may know me from Glocktalk and elsewhere.

I just ordered a JMCK for my G17 (coyote with mid-height sweat guard, extra tuck, split-loop standard height, and some extra soft loops). I'll post a review when I get it and have a chance to give it a try. This is my first AIWB holster. I was inspired by seeing OrigamiAK in action at a couple of USPSA matches, and I'm looking forward to giving it a try.

Paxamus
06-26-2013, 10:31 AM
Ive had my JMCK AIWB now for about a month and have worn it everywhere I'm legally allowed, STILL AWESOME!!!! I had to add this for anyone thinking about getting one. Just get one! I've worn mine to the park with my two very active kids- which means running, lifting, and swinging them around; just got back from a trip to the lake with it as well did a little bass fishing and boat riding for the kids no issues! I'm carrying a HK USP 45c and its no problem with just a T-shirt. Now I hate to sound like a fan boy, but it works great for me and I hope this can help others.

Tony Mayer
06-26-2013, 12:42 PM
wilco423 and Paxamus, thank you for the business. We are happy that they are working for you.

Clusterfrack, thanks for the business, we appreciate it.

Clusterfrack
06-26-2013, 01:29 PM
Tony--I'm looking forward to trying it. Has anyone added a foam wedge to your holster like on the Keeper?

ToddG
06-26-2013, 06:11 PM
Tony--I'm looking forward to trying it. Has anyone added a foam wedge to your holster like on the Keeper?

I tried it and it was extremely uncomfortable for me. But fwiw, I find it uncomfortable on the Keeper as well.

Up1911Fan
06-27-2013, 07:44 AM
Tony--I'm looking forward to trying it. Has anyone added a foam wedge to your holster like on the Keeper?

I've found the extra tuck option to do a more than adequate job of concealing the gun.

s0nspark
07-01-2013, 09:13 AM
I tried it and it was extremely uncomfortable for me. But fwiw, I find it uncomfortable on the Keeper as well.

I had a really hard time making up my mind between the Keepers and a JM Custom Kydex for this feature and, to a lesser degree, the extra velcro on the belt loop. I ended up going with the JM Custom Kydex with the thought that I could always cover it in glue and velcro myself if the need arose :-)

Due to the particulars of my physiology AIWB has been the only method of concealed carry I've been able to get comfortable with. I have been carrying in an RCS Vanguard 2 for a while now, mainly because it just worked. Even so, my intention from the start was to replace it with a "proper" holster so I could practice more efficiently using my actual carry gear. Plus, these words (http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?2824-RCS-Vanguard2&p=47216&viewfull=1#post47216) kept echoing in my head ;-)

I had less than satisfactory results working my way through the more popular AIWB offerings and my last attempt - the venerable CCC Shaggy - left me even more discouraged as it printed badly for me and the ride height was just way too low. I'd almost resigned myself to just stick with the VG2... but I'm glad I didn't because the JM Custom Kydex AIWB is, in a word, awesome.

I ordered mine with a medium guard, soft loops and the extra tuck option and have found no need for wedges or the extra velcro. Some have said the soft loops printed badly for them... perhaps the loops have changed, as mine lie flat against my belt just like the RCS ones did. The holster rides at the perfect height (which, according to the website is "low") as it allows me to get a good grip without my knuckles scraping against my wilderness belt. Comfort is as good or better than the VG2 while offering more stability and consistent placement. Concealment is excellent - I carry a G20 and can conceal adequately with the right t-shirt now - with normal dress (jeans with a tucked t-shirt and untucked button-up shirt) it conceals better than the VG2 despite the size differences due to the extra tuck option and the grip being tucked in more.

In short, I could not be happier!

Tony Mayer
07-01-2013, 11:42 AM
s0nspark, thank you for the business, I am glad that my holster is working for you.

Corlissimo
07-01-2013, 12:00 PM
Tony, I know several shooters that need a AIWB holster that will accept a WML. Do you offer a holster such as this?

Yes he does. Here's the link to the review of the one he made for me.

http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?7636-Review-JM-Custom-Kydex-Light-Bearing-AIWB-%28-amp-IWB-v2%29

earleym
07-02-2013, 08:22 PM
I have had my JM Custom for about 6 months and love it. Bought a better belt for ever day carry and had some issues with the new belt fitting through the split kydex loop (a textile belt that was a bit larger than 1.5 inches where it was sewn on the ends and a little thicker than usual with the extra nylon webbing sewn on top). Tony custom made me a split loop just a bit larger that works like a charm! Impeccable customer service to say the least!

Crews
07-15-2013, 04:52 PM
First post on this forum. Been carrying in a Summer Special II for years. As a result of this thread I've ordered a JM holster and am looking forward to trying out appendix carry! Thanks for the info guys!

freshilla
07-16-2013, 07:56 AM
Just got mine yesterday and so far I'm very pleased with it - best holster I've used so far and the most comfortable.

One question for those that added their own wedges: what kind of foam are you guys using and where can I acquire some?

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NickDrak
07-17-2013, 08:13 PM
Got to run my Gen4 G19 in my JM Custom AIWB during the Mike Pannone "Covert carry" pistol class I hosted here in IL two weeks ago. I've been wearing mine daily for almost a year now and it was nice to put in as much work from concealment as we did during the class. The class really confirmed AIWB carry for me and specifically my choice of the JM Custom Kydex AIWB holster. Very happy overall to say the least.

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1047/v3qj.jpg

LittleLebowski
07-17-2013, 08:32 PM
Nice to see another convert to AIWB, Nick! Hope to see an AAR of the class sooner or later.

DGI
07-19-2013, 09:03 PM
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn89/prez1967/Guns/2F7AB1A5-E9CD-4874-B3AD-E3FC07069CEE-10383-0000029339D2FE1C_zpsda6f5be7.jpg

Never has my G36 been happier! Tony your rig rocks!!!

I couldnt get the split kydex loop to work for me, the snap loops are by far more comfortable and concealable for me. Nothing pokes me, or prints as I move, its a perfect setup!

Im looking forward to checking out your OWB holsters next... As well as more AIWB rigs... Woot!

ToddG
07-22-2013, 04:29 PM
Tony -- shot you a PM...