JM Custom Kydex AIWB holster review

[Clusterfrack]

My JMCK came yesterday. It's sized for a G17 but expect to carry my G19 most of the time. I am very impressed by the build quality and the design. The craftsmanship is at least equal to my Raven.

So far it's very comfortable, but since this is my first journey into the land of Junk Carry, it will take some getting used to. A few observations:

I'm very glad I got the longer G17 size because it helps stabilize the holster. How high rise the pants are makes a big difference, and will be a challenge in some cases. My Dickies sit fairly low and the fit of the JMCK is good but with 5.11s or Vertx which are higher rise, the gun seems too high in my belly and digs in the groin. I'm still figuring out what belt to use. My Ares Ranger belt isn't easy to make work, and I'm finding I don't need the stiffness anyway. The snap loops are great. I couldn't make the split loop work for me.

Some pictures follow. Apologies for the bright white tummy...

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[Tony Mayer]

Clusterfrack, thanks for the business. Glad it is working out for you.

[NickDrak]

Just ordered my 2nd for my G17 ;)

[Serpico1985]

That's so ironic NickDrak. I just ordered my 2nd JM for a G17 too. First was was for a P30. Excellent craftsmanship and molding. I've come to find I like AWIB holsters that are very trim in the area around the dustcover and come with soft loops. It allows the holster to shift just a little reverse cant and makes it more comfortable for me when driving or sitting.

Keep up the execllent work JM.

[Corlissimo]

Got a V3 P2KSK inbound so I'm getting ready to order a C5L to send in to Tony so he can mold a light-bearing one for me.

Once that's done I'll update the JM Custom Kydex Lightbearing AIWB thread here:

http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?t=7636


~ Typos brought to you by my lazyness & in attention to detail.

[NickDrak]

That's so ironic NickDrak. I just ordered my 2nd JM for a G17 too. First was was for a P30. Excellent craftsmanship and molding. I've come to find I like AWIB holsters that are very trim in the area around the dustcover and come with soft loops. It allows the holster to shift just a little reverse cant and makes it more comfortable for me when driving or sitting.

Keep up the execllent work JM.

I've been running the solid kydex loop on my G19's JM AIWB but I think im gonna order a set of the soft loops to go with my G17 holster to try out.

[Tony Mayer]

Serpico1985, Corlissimo and NickDrak, thanks for the business, we really appreciate it.

[JBP55]

After posting about your holsters on a local gun forum I recently got you another Louisiana customer and several others are considering them as well. Thanks for a great holster.

[Tony Mayer]

JBP55, thank you very much. We appreciate the business.

[Up1911Fan]

Here's a picture showing the difference between the High Ride and Low Ride belt loop options for anyone wondering.
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[Bob45]

Does anyone know the current wait time for these holsters?

[Savage Hands]

Does anyone know the current wait time for these holsters?



On top of their website, 4-5 weeks... http://www.jmcustomkydex.com/

[imp1295]

So - more of a testimonial than anything.

This is actually my second holster by JM Custom. My EDC at home is a JMCK, extra tuck, standard ride height for a M&P 9c, full size holster.

But, earlier this year I found out I would be headed over here to the sandbox and wanted to see how it would hold up for carrying a M9 (92F) all day, every day. I was skeptical given the weight difference in pistols. I decide to be different, I would order a model with belt loops and no extra tuck (no real need to conceal), but given my standard draw and my thoughts that consistency counts especially while deployed.

Let's just say I'm now a believer that I can carry a full size, all steel service pistol AIWB. Now, could I do it in street clothes as oppoed to Multi-cam...I'm not sure. But, most of my day is without kit, behind a damn computer and it's all day comfie.

I keep things consistent in kit by having a kydex holster zip tied to my PC in about the same area so things have worked out well. That is, except for the fact that I was seriously out of practice with a DA/SA pistol and my first few trips to the range were less than stellar - But, that has nothing to do with this amazing holster.

I'll hopefully have a SME and a Shaggy waiting at home. So, I'll post somewhere in the future how I compare the three for the M&P. You can't go wrong with this holster, any of the other recommeded ones...But JM custom has the fasted turn around.

[Tony Mayer]

imp1295 , thanks for the testimonial and the business.

[pr1042]

Tony,

Would you be able to make a AIWB with extra tuck for a Glock 17 with RMR? Still kicking around the idea so not sure if irons would be in front or behind the optic (if that matters).

[Tony Mayer]

pr1042, Yes, I can make it. I don't form the kydex over the RMR, makes the holster to wide in my opinion. If/when you order , tell me in the comments section who did the slide work and whether the rear suppressor sight is in front or behind the RMR. Thanks for the interest and let me know if you have anymore questions.

[Rich]

I notice that these AIWB holster appear to look similar to my Blade Tech IWB For some reason BT doesn't have a name for it?
BT isnt going to make them anymore in favor of there Nano that is made of thinner kydex with loops spaced further apart.


Reason I like the older BT IWB holster was because it had a SD or 0 cant and it had a generous receiver guard or sweat guard.
And I could use Loops or pull dot. like a old shcool IWB.


I hate clips , hooks etc! plus I don't like tucking type holsters . ( think crossbreed) I wear my shirt untuck 99% of the time

Even though I carry at 3:00 I might give the above holster a try. THANKS

BTW

Or is it possible to make a IWB 0 cant full size sweat guard for 3pm carry

[Crews]

First post on this forum. Been carrying in a Summer Special II for years. As a result of this thread I've ordered a JM holster and am looking forward to trying out appendix carry! Thanks for the info guys!

Just got mine in and been carrying my G19 for a few days. It's way more comfortable than I expected. My initial observation is that I am having some issues with it printing way more than I am used to with a SSII carried at 4oclock with tighter shirts. With a loose fitting button up shirt, it disappears. Maybe it's just my body type.

[Tony Mayer]

Rich, that's no problem at all. If/when you order, order an AIWB, and tell me the specifics in the order comments. Thanks

Crews keep me informed as to how it works out for you concealment and comfort wise. Thanks for the business.

[NickDrak]

Not only do Tom's holsters rule, so does his customer service.

[Kobalt60]

I ordered mine (Lefty .80 black AIWB for G19/23 + extra tuck + loops and a mag holder) on Friday and I'm looking forward to getting it in. My only past experience carrying AIWB was with a G-Code Incog, which I would describe as "sub-optimal."

Does anyone have any comment on the two Kydex thickness options? Does it make much of a difference?

[Tony Mayer]

Kobalt60, thanks for the business. To answer your question, the .093 is a more "rigid" retention, helps more with heat dispersion, and is going to be a little tougher. Comfort wise I don't think the end user can tell the difference. Hope that answers your question and let me know if you have any more. Thanks

[EMC]

I wore my JM G19 extra tuck solid loop full guard appendix holster on a 12 mile (6 up, 6 down), 5,000 ft elevation gain hike this last Saturday on very rocky uneven terrain (UT west desert). I don't use the waist belt with my day pack so it worked beautifully. The fact that Tony seals the hardware points with some kind of sealant/adhesive ensured the gun was protected from the heavy persperation that likes to collect near the trigger guard area. I had zero comfort or rubbing issues with this setup. A tiny amount of corrosion on the trigger guard screw hole plate rectified with some clp afterwards. This holster has proven itself for my needs in heavy outdoor use.

[Tony Mayer]

EMC, thanks for the business and good to know my holster works for you.

[mrozowjj]

I'm trying to decide between soft loops or regular or high ride kydex loops. I think the kydex loops would help with concealmeant by holding it steady but the softloops would be easier to get on and off... it should be noted that I over think everything.

[Captain]

The the ride issue is probably more personal/dependent on body type. As for easy on/off, I think the kydex loops are easier, but that's probably because at AIWB, my holster sits right next to the belt buckle. It's way easier for me to unbuckle and slide the holster out.


I'm trying to decide between soft loops or regular or high ride kydex loops. I think the kydex loops would help with concealmeant by holding it steady but the softloops would be easier to get on and off... it should be noted that I over think everything.

[s0nspark]

I'm trying to decide between soft loops or regular or high ride kydex loops. I think the kydex loops would help with concealmeant by holding it steady but the softloops would be easier to get on and off... it should be noted that I over think everything.

I opted for the soft loops and have been really pleased with them... I keep them tucked under the flap of my Wilderness belt and they don't move around but I can still remove the holster if need be without having to undo my belt.

[Crews]

I can speak for the soft loops, but I have the split kydex loops, and it's very easy on/off. Keeps my gun very secure.

[mrozowjj]

The the ride issue is probably more personal/dependent on body type. As for easy on/off, I think the kydex loops are easier, but that's probably because at AIWB, my holster sits right next to the belt buckle. It's way easier for me to unbuckle and slide the holster out.

Hmm. What sort of belt are you using? Leather or nylon? I have an ATLAS belt and I can see those loops being a pain to get on and off.

[Clusterfrack]

Since my last post, I've got my JMCK AIWB rig dialed in. A few weeks ago I used it at a carbine match to see how it worked under challenging conditions (lots of running and positional shooting), and the holster worked great.

I am using the soft loops on a Wilderness frequent flier belt (with the buckle at 11:00). I was initially worried about keeping the holster in place, but found that it stays put even when the belt isn't super tight.

[EMC]

Since my last post, I've got my JMCK AIWB rig dialed in. A few weeks ago I used it at a carbine match to see how it worked under challenging conditions (lots of running and positional shooting), and the holster worked great.

I am using the soft loops on a Wilderness frequent flier belt (with the buckle at 11:00). I was initially worried about keeping the holster in place, but found that it stays put even when the belt isn't super tight.

With the soft loops are you able to get the belt and the tail tucked under the loops, or do you put the belt tail over the loops?

[Clusterfrack]

With the soft loops are you able to get the belt and the tail tucked under the loops, or do you put the belt tail over the loops?

Neither. I thread the belt from R to L so the tail goes on my support side.

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[Dos Cylindros]

I just wanted to add another data point to this great thread. Last week I received my JM AIWB for my H&K P30. I ended up going with the pull the dot loops as that has always been my favorite method of IWB holster attachment. I did not go with the extra tuck feature and I find the holster to be extremely comfortable. I wore it all weekend while out and about Christmas shopping and found the wedge feature to tuck the but of the gun in very well. I had no printing of the weapon, even in the fairly close fitting shirts I was wearing. I wore the holster with my Volund gearworks atlas belt which made for a very low profile setup with no buckle to get in the way or poke out under the shirt. I much prefer this holster to my two prvious attempts at AIWB (the Dale Fricke Archangle and the G-Code INCOG) as it was more stable and tucked the but of the gun into my body much better. Tony is an excellent guy to deal with and he make a first rate product. This is the second holster I have purchased from him and I am quickly going to order two more of these AIWB holsters for my M&P's.

[Tony Mayer]

Dos Cylindros, thank you for the kind words and the business. Happy that my holsters are working for you.

[JBP55]

I received another holster from JM Custom Kydex last week and the fit and finish is great. It is an OWB holster and the fit to the pistol is great as well.
Last year I decided JM Custom Kydex and Safariland could supply all my holster needs.
Thanks for another quality holster.

[Tony Mayer]

JBP55, thanks for the business. Appreciate it.

[Kyle Reese]

JBP55, thanks for the business. Appreciate it.

I'll be carrying my new P226 in one of your fine holsters. Order inbound. :cool:

[Tony Mayer]

FredM, thanks. Appreciate it.

[BCL]

I'm a huge fan of these holsters, I have 6 of them so far (2 Glock, 2 HK45, 2 M&P). All have the extra tuck feature and I can carry a G17 in a t-shirt without printing.

[Tony Mayer]

jst0915, thanks for the business and kudos , appreciate it.

[Isaac]

Tony,

Heard you are able to adjust the wedge width? How would you like that specified in an order?

[Adam]

I just received my G34 holster (for use with a G19 or 26) yesterday. Extra tuck, soft loops.

Obviously I can't give a thorough review yet, but first thoughts are:

1) Quality is superb. I look at it and think "How the hell did he make this?" You see where your money goes for sure. Very small profile holster body as well.
2) So far it is very comfortable.
3) The G34 length greatly helps keep the muzzle away from my important parts, and is much "safer" feeling when seated. Also aids in comfort and stability.
4) Under a fitted t-shirt my G19 is concealing like a G26. I might stop carrying the 26. More gun is more better.

Too early to tell for sure, but I think I might have found my new kydex guy. I've never received kydex gear and went "Wow" until yesterday. Great work Tony.

[Tony Mayer]

isis07734 , I can make a smaller wedge if you need it. Just tell me in the comments that you want a little smaller. Thanks

Adam, thanks for the kudos, glad you like it.

[Adam]

No, thank you sir. Really looking forward to putting this holster through the paces.

Tony, have you ever done a minimalist AIWB/IWB mag pouch? I'm picturing something with a single webbing loop on the front allowing the carry angle to be adjusted. Something one could wear AIWB opposite their pistol canted with the floor plate of the magazine pointed toward their off-side elbow for concealment and ease of draw? Really just something like your V3 mag pouch but with hardware as described above.

[Tony Mayer]

Adam, I am sure I can make it. Email me at jmcustomkydex@yahoo.com with the details again and I can give you a quote. Thanks

[s0nspark]

have you ever done a minimalist AIWB/IWB mag pouch? I'm picturing something with a single webbing loop on the front allowing the carry angle to be adjusted. Something one could wear AIWB opposite their pistol canted with the floor plate of the magazine pointed toward their off-side elbow for concealment and ease of draw? Really just something like your V3 mag pouch but with hardware as described above.

I'd love to find an equivalent of Desbien's reverse cant mag holder in kydex...

[Adam]

I'd love to find an equivalent of Desbien's reverse cant mag holder in kydex...

There might be a guy on here who could do it. ;) I'm with you. I'm looking at the same principle for cant, etc. I'd like to try the mag AIWB as I already have a little "gap" in my beltline there from the pistol anyway.

[Tony Mayer]

s0nspark, should be doable. If you want to try one , order a Version 2 on the website and tell me a reverse cant for appendix carry.

Adam, that's no problem. Order a Version 2 and tell me in comments you want it IWB with one soft loops. Thanks

[s0nspark]

s0nspark, should be doable. If you want to try one , order a Version 2 on the website and tell me a reverse cant for appendix carry.


Awesome - I just ordered one to try... if it works out well I'll surely order more :-)

Thanks so much Tony!

[Kobalt60]

Just wore mine (Lefty, AIWB+extra tuck, Glock 19/23 on a Saddleback Tow Belt) for about 14 hours straight, driving from FL to NC and I've got to say it was tolerable. I'm not going to say it was effortless, but definitely tolerable with the occasional shift. Good work Tony!

[Tony Mayer]

Kobalt60, what area of the holster was bothering you somewhat. From customer feedback and my own experiences, 4" barreled guns with the extra tuck are hit and miss for comfort, some love it some hate it, 4.5" and up, everyone seems to love it. Let me know if I can do anything for you to make it more comfortable. Thanks for the business.

[Clusterfrack]

My second JMCK AIWB holster arrived today. This is a G19 size, with no extra tuck and a minimal wedge. My intent with this holster is to reduce the thickness at the belt that the wedge causes. While I like the wedge for my G17, I don't think I need it to keep the grip of a 19 pulled in to my body. I'm liking it a lot so far. Thanks Tony!

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[punkey71]

Clusterfrack,

Can you put up a couple comparison pics of the new holster and the standard?

Tabletop and being worn would be immensely appreciated. I've been considering one like your no extra tuck, minimal wedge and would love to see some comparisons.

Thanks very much
Harold


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[ARonBoard]

I love this holster.

I have one for my HK45c, but I just sold the gun. I will definitely be ordering another one for my 19.

[Clusterfrack]

Clusterfrack,

Can you put up a couple comparison pics of the new holster and the standard?

Tabletop and being worn would be immensely appreciated. I've been considering one like your no extra tuck, minimal wedge and would love to see some comparisons.

Thanks very much
Harold


Hey Harold,

Here are some pics. PM me if you have any questions.

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[punkey71]

Thanks so much for taking the time. I really appreciate it.

I am looking to do almost the same. I have a G19 in a 19 size with extra tuck. The belt protrusion always seems to excessively print and I was wondering how much wedge could be reduced while still maintaining grip tuck.

It looks great and from the pics the end of the grip does not appear to protrude more.

I think this is going to push me to order a G17 size with minimal wedge (but keep the extra tuck) for my 19.

Thanks again.

Best
Harold



Hey Harold,

Here are some pics. PM me if you have any questions.

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[Clusterfrack]

For the folks who've been pm-ing me, here are some pictures of my new JMCK G19, no extra tuck, minimal wedge. The pillow pad is my own work.

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I'm really happy with it so far. I shot a fairly athletic AR night match on Saturday and forgot I was carrying the AIWB rig.

[Tony Mayer]

Clusterfrack thanks for the pics and the review. For anyone that wants less wedge, just tell me in the comments section when you order that you want less wedge and I will take it from there. Thanks

[McNamara]

Clusterfrack thanks for the pics and the review. For anyone that wants less wedge, just tell me in the comments section when you order that you want less wedge and I will take it from there. Thanks

Some of the comments in this thread have made me start reconsidering options on my order - for example the extra tuck and amount of wedge.

What seems to be the most popular combination of features for 5" 1911s?

[Tony Mayer]

McNamara, for the fullsize 1911, I would start with the normal amount of wedge, go with the extra tuck, and a full sweat/body shield that will reengage the safety when you reholster, in .093 thickness. That has been the standard for that pistol based on customer feedback. Regarding ride height, start with the standard height fixed kydex loop in either the split or solid (I sell way more splits than solids). You will have two weeks from when you get it to swap out loops or holsters as well. Hope that helps and let me know if you have any more questions. Thanks

[McNamara]

Thanks, Tony. That's exactly how I ordered mine, except without the extra tuck. I'll PM you about it.

-ETA: Your PM inbox is full, I sent you an email at sales@jmcustomkydex.com

[Tony Mayer]

McNamara, thanks and I emptied it. I will respond to your email.

[McNamara]

Thanks for the quick response! I'll give the extra tuck a try as you suggested in your email.

[jholen]

Ordered mine from Tony this weekend! Full guard, extra tuck for a 5" government 1911. Thanks for answering all my questions Tony!

[Adam]

Anyone have a standard height 1.5" split kydex loop that didn't work for them and want to sell? I got the soft loops and am interested in trying the split loop as well. If not, I'll get one ordered from Tony some time soon.

[s0nspark]

After selling my last carry gun, I have been making do with a G19 in a VG2 until I get the JMCK holster I ordered for my new carry gun ... just gotta say, I sure miss carrying in a JMCK holster :-(

[ARonBoard]

Anyone know if a G30s will fit in a g19 JM AIWB?

[bassace]

I'd like to order one of these for my G23, but am unsure whether or not to check the extra tuck option.
What is the general consensus? Is it considered "more necessary" for a specific body type? Me = 6'3" 200 lbs.
Tx for your input

[Up1911Fan]

I would get the extra tuck and do a G17 length holster.

[taadski]

Preferences vary considerably re the extra tuck bump. Not that it matters, but I much prefer not having it. I will say it's a lot easier to add a tuck pad to the standard model than to take away the bump if you don't like it. Just FWIW.


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[McNamara]

My holster was in the mailbox when I returned home from the holidays. I've only worn it over the past two days but so far I am really happy. Mine is for a 5" 1911 with the extra tuck bump and a 1.5" split loop. I'll need to wear it with some different belts and something other than my usual jeans for a full analysis.

This is also the first time I've carried a 1911 AIWB. Previously I only had an AWIB holster for my G17 (a CCC Shaggy) and I had carried my 1911 in a Sparks VM-2 around 4 o'clock. A few observations:

1) The thinness of the 1911, in both the slide and the frame, are a real help in concealment. I can hide this thing in noticeably closer fitting garments than I can a G17 (such as slim-fit untucked dress shirts or sweaters).

2) Thinness adds to comfort too. Though the 1911 weighs more and has a longer barrel, the lack of bulk makes a bigger difference in comfort.

3) With the G17, both the back of the slide and the bottom of the grip were prone to printing. Now only the grip of the 1911 is a concern for printing, as the slide is shorter. However, the grip safety does poke into my stomach a bit.

4) Most importantly, I feel safer carrying AIWB with a hammer-fired pistol. I never quite got comfy with a striker-fired weapon at 1 o'clock.

The JMCK holster is definitely a welcome addition to my small collection, and I love carrying the 1911 AIWB versus the Glock.

[Tony Mayer]

McNamara, thanks for the business and we are glad it is working for you.

[jholen]

McNamara,

Thanks for the review! That's the same holster and specs I ordered back on Dec 17th! Can't wait to receive it. Looking forward to trying it out.

[Mruseless]

No, thank you sir. Really looking forward to putting this holster through the paces.

Tony, have you ever done a minimalist AIWB/IWB mag pouch? I'm picturing something with a single webbing loop on the front allowing the carry angle to be adjusted. Something one could wear AIWB opposite their pistol canted with the floor plate of the magazine pointed toward their off-side elbow for concealment and ease of draw? Really just something like your V3 mag pouch but with hardware as described above.


Hi Adam,
What do you think about the G19 length with Extra Tuck now that you've had it for a month?

I'm debating the Extra Tuck option, especially in light of what Tony and others have said about short vs. long barreled holsters and the ET option. I currently use a Dale Fricke for a Glock 26, it's very short below the beltline (2.25") but doesn't tuck. I've emailed back and forth with Tony about this a couple times, and thanks to Tony for the amazingly fast responses! Fantastic customer service.

[bassace]

I ordered an AIWB for my G23/26. Tony recommended that I not go with the extra tuck for this length of holster, so that's what I'll do. Now I'm wondering if i could get away with less wedge too. It looks like the OP of this thread has less of a wedge than is standard now.(?)
Kind of sucks having to try these things sight unseen and guess which will fit best for you.

[Tony Mayer]

bassace, you do have two weeks to swap out the holster or return it if it doesn't work for you. I do use smaller wedges as the grips of the pistol gets smaller so my 19 wedge is slightly smaller than my 17 wedge. Thanks

[bassace]

Genious! Makes sense. Thanks for the response.

[jholen]

I ordered from Tony back in December and received the holster today. I've previously carried AIWB before with my Sig P239 for 2+ years however this is my first attempt at carrying my 5" Springfield RO. I also picked up two vertical mag pouches, version three (with 1.5" clip instead of loop) on a last minute whim and was simply able to send Tony a last minute e-mail and he got them added to my order! Great customer service and communication.

My first impressions are that this holster is one of the most comfortable AIWB holsters I've carried. Previously, I had carried in a lower riding laminate leather holster for my Sig, which positioned the grip so that it was pretty much resting on my belt line. The ride height is a bit higher on the JM Custom however it works perfectly. I ordered the holster with a full guard, which engages the thumb safety should it be off prior to being holstered, and also got the extra tuck feature, which Tony recommended for larger guns. The extra tuck feature is basically a bump/ridge on the back of the holster which is designed to push the grip into your body.

In the past I've carried around 1 o'clock, and with the split kydex loop (There are a number of options which you can choose from for belt loops) you can carry right on top of the belt loops. See my photos believe to see more clearly. I have full range of motion and don't feel any pressure points that I had previously felt and just put up with while carrying my Sig. Another point that I'd like to make is that I can bend over and tie my shoe, which is something that a number of people carrying AIWB complain about. I'm seated now while typing this and can feel the gun however it is not a sharp or jabbing pain - you can tell it's there but no discomfort. Anyways, enough talk here's some pictures.

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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-It-nuSbV7CU/Ut8NmlHl3ZI/AAAAAAAACwA/t2V1rUNGAlw/w497-h553-no/CIMG7293.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--2AnX4T_6Q0/Ut8NnIJa5MI/AAAAAAAACwI/vS_uO4npRaY/w446-h553-no/CIMG7295.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Gewx83l5-rA/Ut8Nn_JnWgI/AAAAAAAACwM/9zF3BS3OjlI/w438-h553-no/CIMG7296.JPG

Again, I'm really impressed with this holster and thank Tony over @ JM Custom Kydex! If you're in the market for an AIWB holster for a larger gun, or any sized gun for that matter, be sure to give Tony a call or e-mail and I'm sure you'd be more than pleased. He also offers a range of IWB, OWB, and even a tuckable AIWB holster.

[DocGKR]

I have a couple of different AIWB holsters, that I use for different things.

The Fricke Seraphim is the most secure and offers the best protection of the RDS, but does not tuck the butt of the pistol in as much as I would like and rides a bit higher than ideal for my body. By adding some foam wedges to the muzzle end of the holster, I can get the butt to tuck in better. The Fricke is quite versatile, as it also works great for IWB at 3 o'clock when used without the foam wedge. It is a superb holster for doing more physical activities.

The CCC Looper is very thin and fits very tight to the body and sits low, draw is a bit slower than the other AIWB holsters I use--my primary use for the Looper is when wearing tailored suits.

The JM AIWB with solid loop and extra tuck fits quite close, offers acceptable retention, sits at a good low ride height for me--it is nearly perfect, except for the lack of RDS protection. It even works acceptably with suits. This is now my standard day-to-day CCW holster.

[Tony Mayer]

jholen, thanks for the review and the pics, they look great. Happy that they are working for you.

DocGKR, glad to hear that they are working for you as your everyday carry setup, thanks for the business.

[KevinB]

You guys are going to force me into buying one to try this AIWB heresy ;)

[DocGKR]

Tony--Thank you for making a great product at a fair price, accomplished in a reasonable time frame.

Any thoughts on doing holsters that offer protection for RDS?

[LittleLebowski]

You guys are going to force me into buying one to try this AIWB heresy ;)

I have a couple you can try out on Glock 9mms.

[I29alpha]

Been rocking a JM for quite some time now. Great product. Thanks Tony!

http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u458/i29alpha/efdb7b4b07d9709246ab3c90093e6ee3_zps550ca00f.jpg

[Kyle Reese]

My JM AIWB carries my 2022 like a glove. I like it so much that I've got one for my 226 en route.

[Doublea17]

Ordered mine today. I can't wait to get it.

[Savage Hands]

Took a spill on some ice last night and cracked another brand aiwb holster that I wear at 3:00, so I'm ordering another jmck aiwb in the thicker kydex since I'm clumsy to replace it. :o

[bassace]

I ordered mine with some extra holes for the loop so that I can adjust ride height/cant. Tony said this will soon be an option

[Tony Mayer]

DocGKR, I will work on something regarding the RDS protection.

129alpha, thanks for the business, that's one of my first versions, awesome.

FredM, Doublea17, shenaniguns and bassace , thanks for the work.

Regarding the adjustability in the holster body instead of the loop, that is going to be in .093 kydex only.


Thanks

[DocGKR]

Just ordered some more of your holsters last night...love the .093 Kydex.

[jholen]

Just ordered some more of your holsters last night...love the .093 Kydex.
I've been pleased with mine as well.

[punkey71]

I have a G17 length with a G19 sized wedge and extra tuck order that went from "Pending" to "Picked" this AM. Not sure what that means but I'm sure it's a step in the right direction. :-)

I had a standard wedge G17 length with extra tuck that I foolishly sold to a fella here. :-) I thought I wanted a G19 length since I never carry my 17. For me, I really missed the extra length as it seemed to prevent a little of the roll over the top that has been pointed out by Tony and others. I am excited to get the 17 length with 19 wedge that Tony and I talked about. Should be perfect for my purposes.

Arriving soon...I hope. :-)

[Adam]

Hi Adam,
What do you think about the G19 length with Extra Tuck now that you've had it for a month?

I'm debating the Extra Tuck option, especially in light of what Tony and others have said about short vs. long barreled holsters and the ET option. I currently use a Dale Fricke for a Glock 26, it's very short below the beltline (2.25") but doesn't tuck. I've emailed back and forth with Tony about this a couple times, and thanks to Tony for the amazingly fast responses! Fantastic customer service.

Better late than never, sorry, I've been away for a bit.

I went with the G34 length for a G19/26 with the extra tuck and wedge. I don't like to say things like "the best ____ ever!" but this is by far the best I've used so far. It is my new recommendation for AIWB holsters without question. I hate holsters that don't go low enough below the belt line like you're mentioning. My 34 with standard height soft loops extends roughly 4-5" under the belt line. Very comfortable.

I know Tony will give you a fingernail clipper holder attachment if you asked for it, but IMO the G34 length holster is the way to go regardless of pistol. I have a G19, G17 and now a G34 length AIWB holster (only the 34 from Tony) and the G34 length is ideal I think.

Also, Tony has ruined the Glock 26 for me. I just don't have a need to carry it any more, other than in a gym bag with a MIC on it for protection. I've slimmed down a bit rolling Jiu Jitsu and that paired with the holster, a G19 is a "fitted t-shirt" gun now. The holster makes all the difference.

[Savage Hands]

Tony,

If possible can you post a pic of the G 19 vs. G17 wedge on a G17 holster? :cool:

[Tony Mayer]

punkey71 , we are running at 5 weeks right now, so that should tell you about when your going to ship. My lead times are accurate and I keep them updated as much as is needed. Thanks for the order.

Adam, thanks and glad you like it.

Shenaniguns, I will try and get a pic up, thanks.

[ARonBoard]

Tony,

Will a p2k sk fit in a p30 AIWB? I want to use a holster for a pistol longer than the sk but don't have a "full size" p2000.

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[Savage Hands]

Thanks Tony, we'll need some G42 pics too :D

[Tony Mayer]

ARonBoard, the next P30 holster I make I will check but looking at the trigger guards , they are different so it won't fit exactly but may work "ok". I can add length to the SK to make it the same length as the P30, if you want to go that route just let me know in the comments section if/when you order. Thanks

Shenaniguns, my photographer is going to be taking some pics of the 42 in some kydex in the next few days hopefully so I will try and get some up same time I do wedge pics. Thanks

[littlejerry]

Update: I love this holster.

I got stranded last night in the Atlanta Snowpocalypse. Ended up bailing my car in a parking lot and hiked 7 miles in business attire through the snow/ice.

I carried my 19 in a 17 sized holster the whole way on a wimpy dress belt. Holster was supremely comfortable. I've carried during hikes in the past but it was always with good pants and a proper rigid belt.

Thanks Tony for making an awesome product.

[bassace]

I wonder if the 17 length is more comfortable than the 19.
(I have an order in for a 23 length to carry a 23 and 27).
This Atlanta weather is crazy, huh. I made it home yesterday, but am holed up at the house today, wasting time on pistol forums, lol.

[JM Campbell]

I wonder if the 17 length is more comfortable than the 19.
(I have an order in for a 23 length to carry a 23 and 27).
This Atlanta weather is crazy, huh. I made it home yesterday, but am holed up at the house today, wasting time on pistol forums, lol.

Lager size is always better imo, smaller holsters tend to roll. The longer g17/g34 provide more stability in my case. YMMV

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[Tony Mayer]

littlejerry, you are more than welcome, thanks for the business. Sucks you had to hike in the snow though.

bassace, for me the 17 with extra tuck is more comfortable than the 19 length, but the 19 length is great for me without the extra tuck. I would always advise to default to the longer barreled gun. Thanks

[DocGKR]

I always run 19's in 17 holsters...

[Savage Hands]

I always run 19's in 17 holsters...



Same here, 3 holsters in one and not much longer.

[jmjames]

Tony,

Will a p2k sk fit in a p30 AIWB? I want to use a holster for a pistol longer than the sk but don't have a "full size" p2000.

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Mine fits, but it's a touch loose. I tried tightening the tension screw, but that only helped a little. The looseness is vertical (where "up" is the direction that the magazine slides in), it's basically rotating around the trigger guard a bit.

Pics:



J.Ja

[ARonBoard]

Thanks for the reply. Maybe a stupid question but a p2ksk should fit perfectly in a full size p2000 holster right?

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[s0nspark]

I wonder if the 17 length is more comfortable than the 19.

For me longer holsters definitely ride better. .. even with a mid sized holster the bottom of the holster tended to press inward uncomfortably.

Regardless of gun I would choose a full size holster for AIWB.

[Guinnessman]

I have been carrying a G19 in a JM Custom G17 holster, with the extra tuck for about 6 months now. It does an excellent job of tucking the grip, but with tighter fitting shirts the holster prints on the belt line. I have been using the split and snap loops. The belt used is a Volund Atlas Belt. I am planning on ordering a G17 length holster with a G19 wedge to try soon. Overall, I am very pleased with my JM Custom.

[Casual Friday]

I got stranded last night in the Atlanta Snowpocalypse. Ended up bailing my car in a parking lot and hiked 7 miles in business attire through the snow/ice.


Respect...

[Adam]

I wonder if the 17 length is more comfortable than the 19.
(I have an order in for a 23 length to carry a 23 and 27).
This Atlanta weather is crazy, huh. I made it home yesterday, but am holed up at the house today, wasting time on pistol forums, lol.

I would definitely go with the longer holster. I know everyone is different, but the 34 length with the wedge is going to be pretty hard to beat for me.

[imp1295]

For me longer holsters definitely ride better. .. even with a mid sized holster the bottom of the holster tended to press inward uncomfortably.

Regardless of gun I would choose a full size holster for AIWB.

s0s,
When you refer to "press inward uncomfortably" do you mean at all times or only in certain positions (seated, standing etc) I have the same pressure when I sit with a full size M&P JM. However, my issue is that when I sit, based on my build and a slight pelvic tilt the bottom of the holster "rests" on the area just inside (toward center) of my right side pelvic crease. Seeing as I sit at a desk quite a bit, this is where after a while it feels like I've been kicked in the junk almost.

Thanks for any insight

[Wendell]

...when I sit with a full size M&P JM. However, my issue is that when I sit, based on my build and a slight pelvic tilt the bottom of the holster "rests" on the area just inside (toward center) of my right side pelvic crease. Seeing as I sit at a desk quite a bit, this is where after a while it feels like I've been kicked in the junk almost.

I think your pants' rise might be too low, and/or that your pants might be too tight.
You need to be able to move the holster a little to the left, a little to the right, or to hitch your belt-holster assembly up or down (raising or lowering your waistband).
Extra room and extra rise gives minor-adjustment options that pay big dividends.

[s0nspark]

s0s,
When you refer to "press inward uncomfortably" do you mean at all times or only in certain positions (seated, standing etc)


Not all but most of the time. It has a lot to do with where the bottom of the shorter holster falls on me anatomically. I did not try padding the holster - that could have helped, I suppose. Once I discovered that a longer holster worked better for me that was good enough.

[gocubs6]

For you P30 owners (I just got a P30S), what style from JM works best for you? I have a JM AIWB w/ the extra tuck and normal wedge for my M&Ps. I love it and I'm not doubt getting one to go w/ my P30 S. But, I have noticed the loops/trigger guard prints. Not too bad and I don't really sweat it, but it does stick out. Tony suggested via facebook to get less wedge. Anyone done this? I would rather the loops print than sacrifice close to the body carry. But, if it doesn't make that much of a difference, then I may give it a whirl.

[Dos Cylindros]

For you P30 owners (I just got a P30S), what style from JM works best for you? I have a JM AIWB w/ the extra tuck and normal wedge for my M&Ps. I love it and I'm not doubt getting one to go w/ my P30 S. But, I have noticed the loops/trigger guard prints. Not too bad and I don't really sweat it, but it does stick out. Tony suggested via facebook to get less wedge. Anyone done this? I would rather the loops print than sacrifice close to the body carry. But, if it doesn't make that much of a difference, then I may give it a whirl.

I have one for my P30 (V1 light LEM). I went without the extra tuck feature and have the standard pull the dot split loops. They do have a bit more profile than the other mounting options, but for me they don't print. I'm 6'0" 185 lbs and my waist is about 32-33". My chest measures in at 40" so that helps with draping the garment over the gun. I'm sure Tony could hook you up with a modified or smaller wedge, but I'm not sure you really need it.

[gocubs6]

Anyone know if an HK45c JM will fit a P30 as well? I think it would as I'd like to get some bang for my buck if possible.

[Tony Mayer]

gocubs6, it will fit ok. If/when you order, let me know in the comments and I can "massage" the trigger guard area to make it fit both guns. Thanks

[gocubs6]

Thanks!

[imp1295]

I agree about rise and comfort. I have pulled my belt line nearly level with my navel and I find that, as has been said, my anatomy with a slightly forward pelvic tilt causes the holster to rest vertically with the pressure focued on the barrel end of the holster.

Maybe a longer holster is the trick. I am a bit short in my overall "hip height" so it's a matter of height and not waist girth (I've a 31 inch waist)

Thanks for the insight though. I"ll continue to experiment with different options.

[jmcrawf1]

I've been toying with switching to AIWB for years. This thread put me over the top. I ordered a JM AIWB model today. It was an add on to an existing order I already have in with Tony. He has been most accommodating so far in answering questions and modifying my order. Emails are answered in like 15 min or less. I can't wait to try his stuff out!

I gotta give credit to JBP55 for turning me on to JM kydex.

[chiral]

Sorry if this question had been answered already but I tried to go through a few hundred posts and didn't see the info I needed. If you needed to switch from aiwb to 330 or 4oclock carry could you do it with this holster? Thanks in advance!

[Savage Hands]

Sorry if this question had been answered already but I tried to go through a few hundred posts and didn't see the info I needed. If you needed to switch from aiwb to 330 or 4oclock carry could you do it with this holster? Thanks in advance!

I'm too fat for Appendix Carry and I wear this holster at 2:30-3:00.

[WARDOG68]

I just received my JM custom after a long wait, for my G17 4GEN, I orderd it with integral loop, and I wear it with a 1,50 soft leather belt. As now, unfortunately my JM custom is uncomfortable to carry, the rear wedge digs in my pelvic area, and is not enough to tilt the gun toward my torso, so the rear sight area print like crazy under a semi-tight sweatshirt, also, it seems that the front wedge tilt the weapon OUTWARD, the rear of the slide really stick out, carry comfort is much, much less than say my comptac two o clock, or a spencer keepers, quality of the holster is superb, however, but I'm desperately trying to make it wearable for me.. I wear it at 1,30 o clock on my waist.

[JM Campbell]

Side it closer to centerline and then in small increments back out towards 1:30. I've noticed through many holsters that each has a very manageable sweet spot individual to it's self.

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[WARDOG68]

I will try, thanks! As now, it sticks out really, prints badly..

http://i61.tinypic.com/5f5irk.jpg

[JM Campbell]

Offset your belt buckle to 11:00 and place the holster at 12-12:15. You will see the sights run more parallel to your body with the grip still tucked in.

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[Shellback]

I will try, thanks! As now, it sticks out really, prints badly..

Is that with the "extra tuck" or the standard?

[Shellback]

Just ordered some more of your holsters last night...love the .093 Kydex.

I know it's subjective, but, how much of a difference does it make going from the .080 to the .093? Even noticeable?

[JM Campbell]

Just reread your post wardog...soft leather belt most likely is a major issue also. Too much flex in the belt will have that exact effect. The soft belt fights the holster design.

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[WARDOG68]

Thanks for the info guys! I will try a stiffer belt! Holster is extra tuck, it's strange because I ordered it together with a friend, and his doesn't print so much, I will ask what belt he use.

[Seven_Sicks_Two]

It seems as though plenty of people are running the JM AIWB with full-size pistols like the Glock 17. In doing a site search, it looks like some of you guys are carrying the 34/35 size pistols as well.

For the folks running the JM AIWB with a Glock 34/35, which options did you select and why (ride height, guard, loops, tuck)? How is it working out?

[Humble Man]

I've been a member of this forum for a little less than 2 months, and while I have read through many of the threads, this my first post. I have carried concealed for over 10 years, with the last 3 years being exclusively AIWB, and the JM Custom Kydex thread caught my attention. There was so much positive feedback, I thought I would give Tony a try -- and I'm very glad I did. I carry a Bowie Signature G19 equipped with a Deltapoint RDS - not exactly your stock Glock. After talking to Tony on the phone and communicating with him via email (which were both ridiculously easy to do), he steered me to a G17 length holster, no guard, extra tuck, adjustable holster body (0.93 thickness required), and 1.5 Solid Kydex Loop-Standard Height. Delivery was estimated 5-6 weeks, and I received it 1 day shy of 6 weeks. Carrying a G19 in his G17 length holster with extra tuck gives me all day comfort, and makes the gun completely disappear under all of my shirts, including thinner, tighter summer-weight shirts. The adjustable holster body option provides an extra set of pre-drilled holes that enable use of the Standard Height Solid Kydex Loop, but with the added ability to reposition the loop for a smidgeon more room to grip the gun (for those of us with sausage-sized fingers). Nothing I have ever used even comes close to this holster -- I could not possibly be happier. All I need now is one of Todd's gadgets to complete the rig. By the way, I'm 6'5", 230 lbs, my waist is smaller than my stomach, and my stomach is smaller than my chest -- so your mileage may vary, but it sure as hell works for me!

[mrozowjj]

I have a G17 length with a G19 sized wedge and extra tuck order that went from "Pending" to "Picked" this AM. Not sure what that means but I'm sure it's a step in the right direction. :-)

I had a standard wedge G17 length with extra tuck that I foolishly sold to a fella here. :-) I thought I wanted a G19 length since I never carry my 17. For me, I really missed the extra length as it seemed to prevent a little of the roll over the top that has been pointed out by Tony and others. I am excited to get the 17 length with 19 wedge that Tony and I talked about. Should be perfect for my purposes.

Arriving soon...I hope. :-)

I"m a bit confused, when you all are saying wedge do you mean the sweat guard?

[Savage Hands]

I"m a bit confused, when you all are saying wedge do you mean the sweat guard?


The wedge is the area under the belt loop that tucks the grip inwards.

http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad251/SShenaniguns/IMG_20140314_174220_zpshxtecb3i.jpg

http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad251/SShenaniguns/IMG_20140314_175422_zps5mwlraro.jpg

[mrozowjj]

Ah. I didn't realize the wedge was sized differently from the 19 to the 17

[Savage Hands]

Ah. I didn't realize the wedge was sized differently from the 19 to the 17


It depends on what you want, Tony can explain the differences.

[bassace]

I have a 17 length with a 19 wedge for my 27, lol. Works great

[Tony Mayer]

mrozowjj, I use different sizes wedges for different sized guns. The smaller the grip, the smaller the wedge. I can customize different wedges as well. As an example , a Glock 19 size wedge for a Glock 17 holster. You can call me at 775-686-8431 and I can answer any questions you have. Thanks

[MSparks909]

It seems as though plenty of people are running the JM AIWB with full-size pistols like the Glock 17. In doing a site search, it looks like some of you guys are carrying the 34/35 size pistols as well.

For the folks running the JM AIWB with a Glock 34/35, which options did you select and why (ride height, guard, loops, tuck)? How is it working out?

I chose the extra tuck and originally went with the standard or "low" ride height. Full guard and split 1.5" kydex loops. I had issues contacting my pant/belt line when drawing so I ordered the high ride belt loops (same 1.5" split design) and it made a world of difference in the ability to establish a firm firing grip while drawing. I recently ordered another JM AIWB for my new 1911. I made sure to go with the high ride loops on this holster as well. I can conceal my 34 with a t-shirt easily and it's very comfortable. Sitting, bending over, moving, jogging are no problem with this holster. I've ran this holster and my concealed mag holder a couple of times at local indoor ZSA/USPSA-style matches to brush up my abilities with my carry gear. The gear isn't hampering my times in any way.

[Seven_Sicks_Two]

I chose the extra tuck and originally went with the standard or "low" ride height. Full guard and split 1.5" kydex loops. I had issues contacting my pant/belt line when drawing so I ordered the high ride belt loops (same 1.5" split design) and it made a world of difference in the ability to establish a firm firing grip while drawing. I recently ordered another JM AIWB for my new 1911. I made sure to go with the high ride loops on this holster as well. I can conceal my 34 with a t-shirt easily and it's very comfortable. Sitting, bending over, moving, jogging are no problem with this holster. I've ran this holster and my concealed mag holder a couple of times at local indoor ZSA/USPSA-style matches to brush up my abilities with my carry gear. The gear isn't hampering my times in any way.

Thanks for the insight. I'm still on the fence about trying a 34 AIWB, but it is good to know that it can be done.

[punkey71]

Tony did just that for me. My 19 is carried in a 17 length holster with a 19 wedge and split loop and is incredibly comfortable.



mrozowjj, I use different sizes wedges for different sized guns. The smaller the grip, the smaller the wedge. I can customize different wedges as well. As an example , a Glock 19 size wedge for a Glock 17 holster. You can call me at 775-686-8431 and I can answer any questions you have. Thanks

[Guinnessman]

I just received my second JM Custom Holster, and once again, Tony hit it out of the park with this one! This holster is a left hand, Glock 17 length, Glock 19 Wedge, no extra tuck, medium guard, with the split loop. Here is a comparison picture with a JM Custom Glock 17 length, full wedge, extra tuck, full guard, and split loop. The Glock 17 length with a Glock 19 wedge is now my preferred holster for the G19.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m162/GuinessMan/JMCustom2_zps276fcf65.jpg

[WARDOG68]

I tried my JM custom holster with just everything, a narrow safariland concealment belt (with kydex insert), a ted blocker reinforced belt, an hsgi rigger belt, and a desantis leather gunbelt. Nonthing seems to matter, it prints like crazy and the the rear wedge poke me uncomfortably in every position.

I'm selling mine. Maybe it's my body type but of all the appendix holsters I tried (comp-tac, bladetech, some custom made holster) the JM is the least comfortable and less concealable of 'em all. Mind you, I'm not saying it's a bad holsters, it's built great, but just doesn't fit with me.

[LittleLebowski]

I tried my JM custom holster with just everything, a narrow safariland concealment belt (with kydex insert), a ted blocker reinforced belt, an hsgi rigger belt, and a desantis leather gunbelt. Nonthing seems to matter, it prints like crazy and the the rear wedge poke me uncomfortably in every position.

I'm selling mine. Maybe it's my body type but of all the appendix holsters I tried (comp-tac, bladetech, some custom made holster) the JM is the least comfortable and less concealable of 'em all. Mind you, I'm not saying it's a bad holsters, it's built great, but just doesn't fit with me.

Did you try with more than one pair of pants? I have at least two pairs of pants that are very uncomfortable with AIWB but the same gun/holster in different types of pants works fine.

[Tony Mayer]

WARDOG68, out of curiosity, what is your body style?
Thanks

[justintime]

The extra wedge didn't work for me either and neither did the soft loops. After I went away from that it worked great for me. Maybe try a different belt connection and get rid of the wedge and see if that fixes it

[JHC]

I tried my JM custom holster with just everything, a narrow safariland concealment belt (with kydex insert), a ted blocker reinforced belt, an hsgi rigger belt, and a desantis leather gunbelt. Nonthing seems to matter, it prints like crazy and the the rear wedge poke me uncomfortably in every position.

I'm selling mine. Maybe it's my body type but of all the appendix holsters I tried (comp-tac, bladetech, some custom made holster) the JM is the least comfortable and less concealable of 'em all. Mind you, I'm not saying it's a bad holsters, it's built great, but just doesn't fit with me.

I had similiar experience with one for a G17 and I've sold it to my son who already had one for the G19. He loves them. That's how holsters are by and large.

[WARDOG68]

Mr meyer I'm 6-3 with a 38 size waist, not fat, athletic build.

[DocGKR]

Interestingly, the extra tuck solid loop JM Custom Kydex AIWB prove to be the most concealable and useable holsters I've tried to date for both Glocks and M&P's.

[Up1911Fan]

Interestingly, the extra tuck solid loop JM Custom Kydex AIWB prove to be the most concealable and useable holsters I've tried to date for both Glocks and M&P's.

Same for me.

[23JAZ]

I am new to this forum but I just ordered an aiwb for JM Custom with the ET and pull the dot loops for my G19. Does anyone have pics of the holster on with the pull dots and ET? I'd love to see how it conceals with the pull dots vs. the kydex loop.

[Bob45]

How does the loop style affect the comfort? Ive got the soft loops, do many people find the other styles more comfortable? Im carrying an M&P9c in a full size M&P holster, no extra tuck.

[Up1911Fan]

I fail to see how the loops would affect comfort.

[MDS]

I don't have a jmck (yet) but in all my aiwb holsters, leather and kydex, the loops affect comfort and concealment by their position and rigidity. With some holsters I prefer a stiff loop that doesn't allow any movement, with others I prefer a little more "give" so the holster moves with me. It can make a significant difference in comfort after a long, active day with lot of bending at the waist.

[Savage Hands]

I don't have a jmck (yet) but in all my aiwb holsters, leather and kydex, the loops affect comfort and concealment by their position and rigidity. With some holsters I prefer a stiff loop that doesn't allow any movement, with others I prefer a little more "give" so the holster moves with me. It can make a significant difference in comfort after a long, active day with lot of bending at the waist.


Do what I did and order both :cool:

[MDS]

Do what I did and order both :cool:

Oh, I don't know. I have enough spare ones lying around from random experimentation... :D

[JDM]

Yesterday, Tony called me of his own volition to let me know that my order was going to be delayed a couple days as he was waiting on some special order Kydex.

He also asked about a matter we last talked about near the end of February.

Incredible customer service. He's got a customer for life.

[Beat Trash]

My first order from Tony resulted in his calling me to make sure I didn't screw up the order (I did). Most would have just processed the order.

Between the quality of the product, the design/performance of the product, and most importantly, the customer service standing behind the product, I'm also a customer for life.

[23JAZ]

I just placed an order with Tony last week for one of his great AIWB holsters. Great customer service, he has an awesome product. I was able to try my friend's holster which is what drove me to order one. But it's a freaking 8 to 9 week wait that's crazy! I'm looking at JUNE for a holster ordered at the beginning of April that's nuts! 2 to 4 weeks should be the max with ANY holster.

[LittleLebowski]

I just placed an order with Tony last week for one of his great AIWB holsters. Great customer service, he has an awesome product. I was able to try my friend's holster which is what drove me to order one. But damn it's a freaking 8 to 9 week wait that's crazy! I'm looking at JUNE for a holster ordered at the beginning of April that's nuts! 2 to 4 weeks should be the max with ANY holster.

That is normal for a custom holster.

[23JAZ]

Seriously? Granted this is only my third custom holster, but I figured 2-4 weeks is the norm. My two other holsters are both Crossbreeds with horsehide and I ordered those during the holidays and still got them within a month. But I'm hearing JMCK is worth the wait so I guess we'll see.

[JM Campbell]

Seriously? Granted this is only my third custom holster, but I figured 2-4 weeks is the norm. My two other holsters are both Crossbreeds with horsehide and I ordered those during the holidays and still got them within a month. But I'm hearing JMCK is worth the wait so I guess we'll see.

No offense, crossbreed is not on par with most custom makers. Yes I have owned one.


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[Shellback]

Seriously? Granted this is only my third custom holster, but I figured 2-4 weeks is the norm. My two other holsters are both Crossbreeds with horsehide and I ordered those during the holidays and still got them within a month. But I'm hearing JMCK is worth the wait so I guess we'll see.

A Crossbreed is mass produced and are not custom built to your specifications like the JM. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

[Savage Hands]

Seriously? Granted this is only my third custom holster, but I figured 2-4 weeks is the norm. My two other holsters are both Crossbreeds with horsehide and I ordered those during the holidays and still got them within a month. But I'm hearing JMCK is worth the wait so I guess we'll see.



You must be new to the firearms industry, or at least the custom side of things.

[23JAZ]

None taken. The wait just seems somewhat long. However if the wait is any indication of the quality of the work then the holster should be good to go. Not new to the firearms industry just new to appendix carry and have never used anything but crossbreed or kydex from a local shop. Thanks for the input though. Does anyone have pics of the difference in thickness between the pull the dot and the kydex loop on a JMCK AIWB? I went with the 17 length with the 19 size wedge and the ET for my G19 Gen 4 FDE base off of what I've read here. I did order the Pull the dot soft loops because I have to take it off once or twice throughout the day. I just wanted to see if there is a big difference in ease of concealment.

[Adam]

Haha. I waited 29 weeks for a custom leather holster. It holds the holster record for me in: 1) longest wait 2) most I ever paid and 3) shortest length of time I ever kept a holster. After all that it really wasn't that awesome or concealable.

Tony's wait is long (not really even that long) because it is worth it. If it makes you feel better, my knifemaker buddy's wait was right at 4 years before he stopped taking new wait list orders. Raven Concealment's orders were longer than Tony's and they are a sliiiightly larger operation than JMCK.

And as mentioned, Crossbreed is knocking out holsters all day for the guns they offer.

[MSparks909]

None taken. The wait just seems somewhat long. However if the wait is any indication of the quality of the work then the holster should be good to go. Not new to the firearms industry just new to appendix carry and have never used anything but crossbreed or kydex from a local shop. Thanks for the input though. Does anyone have pics of the difference in thickness between the pull the dot and the kydex loop on a JMCK AIWB? I went with the 17 length with the 19 size wedge and the ET for my G19 Gen 4 FDE base off of what I've read here. I did order the Pull the dot soft loops because I have to take it off once or twice throughout the day. I just wanted to see if there is a big difference in ease of concealment.

The loops might print depending on what shirt you have. I do have a spare split 1.5" standard height kydex loop I can sell you if need be when your holster arrives if you don't like the split loops. It's not going anywhere...

[23JAZ]

Thanks for the offer. I will keep that in mind. It's looking like I should have my holster the first week of June.

[Jakemd98]

Tony, hopefully you are paying justcor commission on your sales since this thread prompted me to order a holster from you. Love all the things you offer for these AIWB holsters and it seems to be very well thought out. Looking forward to getting hands on experience with the holster and giving AIWB a shot.

[Tony Mayer]

jakemd98 , that's awesome , thanks for the business.

[23JAZ]

This thread is the reason I ordered mine too! Because as you can see what I'm wearing now isn't cutting it! No grip tuck at all!http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y494/Glocker321/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsce1011be.jpg (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/Glocker321/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsce1011be.jpg.html)[/IMG]

[Adam]

No grip tuck? Now that's just not right...

[JohnN]

Just received my third AIWB holster from Tony, this time made for a CZ P 07. As always, excellent workmanship and customer service.

[s0nspark]

Just received my third AIWB holster from Tony, this time made for a CZ P 07. As always, excellent workmanship and customer service.

Oooh I like that orange Kydex :)

[Tony Mayer]

JohnN, thanks and glad you like it. I got to try the P-07 and P-09 at a recent Mike Pannone class, awesome pistols for the money , especially with Cajun Gun Works parts in them, bought one of each. It's a terrible burden I have to endure to buy pistols for my company....... but I will keep on keepin on.

[s0nspark]

JohnN, thanks and glad you like it. I got to try the P-07 and P-09 at a recent Mike Pannone class, awesome pistols for the money , especially with Cajun Gun Works parts in them, bought one of each. It's a terrible burden I have to endure to buy pistols for my company....... but I will keep on keepin on.

:)

CGW upgrades are what sold me on CZs... David does some great work!

[imp1295]

I've seen some here compare the extra tuck for g17s and g19s. Has anyone experienced the difference with and without the extra tuck for a P30? My M&P FS is extra tuck and is a bit thicker compared to my CZ P-01 without. But, these are different platforms so it's not really comparing apples to apples.

I do notice that the wedge adds some girth to the holster though I'm 5'8" and about 165 so too much of a bulge at my waist line can be noticeable.

Thanks

[CharleyVCU1988]

Just wanted to say kudos to Tony Mayer for making an excellent product. The extra tuck wedge allows me to wear more form-fitting shirts with my larger Glock 19 and thus blend into environments where you would normally get picked out pretty easily if you are wearing something loose fitting. Having a good physique with broad shoulders and large pectorals is still key. Heck if I had a bodybuilder's physique I could probably hide a Glock 17 if I wanted to!

[Tony Mayer]

CharleyVCU1988, thank you very much for the business and happy you like the holster.

[23JAZ]

Just wanted to say kudos to Tony Mayer for making an excellent product. The extra tuck wedge allows me to wear more form-fitting shirts with my larger Glock 19 and thus blend into environments where you would normally get picked out pretty easily if you are wearing something loose fitting. Having a good physique with broad shoulders and large pectorals is still key. Heck if I had a bodybuilder's physique I could probably hide a Glock 17 if I wanted to!


I just received my JMCK AIWB holster on Saturday. Took it to the range Sunday and all I can say is WOW! That holster is really worth the wait. Tony is awesome to deal with and ships on time 2-day priority. I really can't say enough good stuff about this holster. It is a Glock 17 length with a Glock 19 size wedge and room added for my extended forward slide release. I am running it next weekend in the Vermont USPSA championships and I have no doubt it will hold up with no problems. Once I get more time carrying it I will write a more detailed review, but for now, comfort = top-notch, customer service = top-notch, and concealability = top-notch. Tony is now my go to for ALL my Kydex period. His work IS "custom" work.

[Tony Mayer]

Jay23, good deal and glad it's working for you. Thanks

[WARDOG68]

UPDATE: After a PM exchange with mr Mayer, I tried different belts and positions on my JM CUSTOM aiwb holster, for me the sweet spot is having my g17 at 2'o clock on my waistline, and also a little foam wedge on the inside low holster. I waited to try the setup extensively, and now I'm happy to say that I can conceal my g17 perfectly. I've found that even a small variation on the belt has huge differences on how the gun prints and the comfort.

Lot's of thanks to mr meyer for having the time to PM me, it' really helped, I'm glad I had the perseverance to try different setups with the holsters, it's really too well made for giving up easily..

Nex step will be a JM CUSTOM for my soon to arrive HK P30!

[Irelander]

I've been reading through this thread and a lot of other reviews on the JMCK AIWB holster. Been toying with the idea of purchasing one for my G19. Just happened to find one for sale on Glocktalk.com so I just sent the payment. Hopefully I will have it next week. I'm really excited to try it out after reading all the rave reviews.

[Stephen]

Is there anyone can offer some insights into the practical differences between the two OWB versions Tony offers?

[Tony Mayer]

Stephen, the main difference between the two is that my Version 1 is a two piece pancake design with "wings" on each side of the pistol and the Version 2 is one piece design with only the grip side having a wing to pull the grip in, the other loop is attached at the front of the pistol in the sight channel. The Version 2 was created for those that wanted a smaller footprint than a pancake design, but still have it conceal well. Hope that answers your questions and if you have anymore be sure and let me know , you can email me at jmcustomkydex@yahoo.com as well. Thanks

[Shellback]

Has anyone tried the AIWB Single Pistol Mag Pouch? Thoughts? Observations?

[JM Campbell]

Yes I have. I like it a lot. Very comfortable for me and at a good angle for me.

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[Shellback]

Yes I have. I like it a lot. Very comfortable for me and at a good angle for me.

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Just found your thread on TPI. Thanks!

[Irelander]

I got my JMCK AIWB holster the other day. Bought it from a guy on Glocktalk.com. It has the extra tuck feature. I wear it right at 12:30. So far I am not getting good results with concealment. The wedge is nice for tucking the grip in but it turns the gun so much that now the rear edge of the slide is printing. The belt attachment area juts out pretty far too. I also find the extra tuck feature to be nice for the increased tuck but very uncomfortable. I am still experimenting so the issues above may be the operator and not the holster. I am very impressed with the quality of the holster and the retention is spot on.

[Tony Mayer]

Irelander, what is your body shape? I am finding out that real skinny people are going to need a minimal wedge. If the holster is in good shape or was new when you got it I can swap you out for something that fits you better if that works as well. You can email me at jmcustomkydex@yahoo.com.
Thanks

[23JAZ]

Irelander, what is your body shape? I am finding out that real skinny people are going to need a minimal wedge. If the holster is in good shape or was new when you got it I can swap you out for something that fits you better if that works as well. You can email me at jmcustomkydex@yahoo.com.
Thanks

Now that is some great customer service! That right there is why JMCK is now my go to kydex artist!

[Hizzie]

WooHoo!

Just got shipping notice.

[backtrail540]

I just ordered another for a p09. I inquired on a 92a1 but then ended up with a p07 and p09 instead. Can't wait until it arrives! JMCK is definitely my first stop after getting a new pistol before anywhere else.

[Jakemd98]

Ok guys, review time.

I picked up a p2000 a little while ago and needed a good holster. While playing around with a Remora i quickly found out the concealablility with AIWB is amazing. I then set off working on my googlefoo and narrowed down to a Shaggy or a JM cusoms. I decided to wait for the JM customs and also decided to pay the extra for the tuck option.

So the wait began. 9 weeks later i received my JM cusoms holster and single OWB mag carrier. upon further inspection i noticed that it did not look like it had the extra tuck option. So on a Sunday night i sent an e-mail off to them with some pictures inquiring if the tuck option was on it or not. The next day i received an e-mail back stating that it did not appear to have it and they would ship out the correct holster that day to me.

Shortly there after i received the replacement holster and a shipping label to send the other back in.

Over all i would have to say, the customer service is second to none! The quality of build is amazing. retention is amazing. conceal-ability is perfect. Comfort... very good, however being my first AIWB rig i am still playing with it to find the sweet spot.

Here are a few pictures of the two holsters side by side to show the tuck feature and me with it on and a tight t-shirt.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i78/jakemd98/20140629_215323_zps37d4d5a0.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i78/jakemd98/20140629_215459_zpsd24109b6.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i78/jakemd98/20140629_215636_zpse4f8ca60.jpg

The above picture without flash was with the non tuck option and the flash was with the tuck. This was wearing a Haynes t-shirt that fits fairly tight.

Over all JMcustoms gets a 10 out of 10 from me. I wish more places had the kind of service, quality, and value that their company has.

Thanks so much Tony, keep it up

[Rich]

Stephen, the main difference between the two is that my Version 1 is a two piece pancake design with "wings" on each side of the pistol and the Version 2 is one piece design with only the grip side having a wing to pull the grip in, the other loop is attached at the front of the pistol in the sight channel. The Version 2 was created for those that wanted a smaller footprint than a pancake design, but still have it conceal well. Hope that answers your questions and if you have anymore be sure and let me know , you can email me at jmcustomkydex@yahoo.com as well. Thanks

Been thinking about your OWB ? And if I can hide my P30S under a size larger T shirt at 3:00.

I'm not a holster designer but I would think the belt going over the holster would fit closer also?

[Tony Mayer]

Jakemd98, thanks for the kudos and glad the holster with the extra tuck is working for you.

Rich, my owb's either version 1 or 2 are as close to the body as I can make them , I think if your on the bigger side the version 1 is great. IMO, 3:00 is a hard position to hide anything as it is the narrowest part of a humans body, generally speaking. I would suggest at least a 10 degree , 15 would be better for the bigger grip of the P30, and wear it just behind the seam of your pants, 3:30 - 4:00 position. You would be correct on the belt going over the holster, loops turned around basically, and if you want to try it let me know. Thanks

[breakingtime91]

For those of you who have tried using foam on the bottom of the holster and the extra tuck, which worked better as far concealment goes?

[Bluedog]

After reading and rereading this thread, I just order one.

[MGW]

This arrived at my door step about two hours before heading out to shoot steel plates yesterday. My great Saturday got even better. More to follow.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/20/a6uda2ag.jpg

[s0nspark]

This arrived at my door step about two hours before heading out to shoot steel plates yesterday. My great Saturday got even better. More to follow.


I have my third coming sometime this week for my XDs - can't wait!! :)

[Lon]

Just wanted to give Tony some kudos. 6 or 7 weeks ago I ordered an AIWB mag pouch. I decided I wanted to get another AIWB holster (this one for my M9A1 compact) so I sent Tony an email yesterday inquiring about the possibility of adding it to my existing order. Since it was a Sunday I figured I'd hear from him today. Negative. He replied within a short period of time and was happy to add to my order without adding any time to the wait.

Today I get a call from Tony. The first thing he did was apologize for not getting the mag pouch out to me sooner (per other posts, he tries to get single mag pouches out in a couple weeks) and then we finalized my holster order. He told me everything should go out tomorrow. It's customer service like this that will keep me coming back to him as my go to kydex guy.

[s0nspark]

Just received my third AIWB holster from Tony, this time made for a CZ P 07. As always, excellent workmanship and customer service.

I've been meaning to ask - who did the stipple work on your P-07?

The polymer seems thinner to me than, say, a Glock. Any issues there?

[JohnN]

I've been meaning to ask - who did the stipple work on your P-07?

The polymer seems thinner to me than, say, a Glock. Any issues there?


Actually I did, no problems so far.

[s0nspark]

Actually I did, no problems so far.

Cool - thanks. You are braver than I am... I'd probably end up with a puddle of polymer LOL

[Rich]

Jakemd98, thanks for the kudos and glad the holster with the extra tuck is working for you.

Rich, my owb's either version 1 or 2 are as close to the body as I can make them , I think if your on the bigger side the version 1 is great. IMO, 3:00 is a hard position to hide anything as it is the narrowest part of a humans body, generally speaking. I would suggest at least a 10 degree , 15 would be better for the bigger grip of the P30, and wear it just behind the seam of your pants, 3:30 - 4:00 position. You would be correct on the belt going over the holster, loops turned around basically, and if you want to try it let me know. Thanks

3:00 carry is hard and I find it best with pistol under 5.5 in height . My P30 is the highest in height I can go.

BTW I pull it off using your custom V3 IWB- TLR-1. The OWB will be without the TLR-1 light. Yeah I have a belly / I wear 38 wrangler cargo short and only 5`8'. Right now I all my spending money is going to a dental surgeon .RRrrr

[Guinnessman]

A JM Custom AIWB just showed up at my house for a HK VP9! The problem that I have, is that I do not own a VP9! The holster was suggested by Tony for my P30 since I have the intention of buying a VP9. The holster works great with the P30. It has the medium guard, medium wedge, with the extra tuck, and a split loop.

Tony was quick to answer my emails, and he quickly changed my order with the medium wedge and suggested the VP9 holster. His holsters and service are top notch!

[camsdaddy]

I am excited. After months of over thinking it I have finally ordered my second holster. I have one for my 19 and I foolishly cut to fit my 17 and it has not worked as well since, the rolled edges are amazing for comfort. The holster I ordered is for my 17 with extra, extra tuck, the one I have has tuck but I am adding another 1/2 of foam. I am debating how much wedge. I know the smaller the gun the smaller the wedge. I want to make it as thin on the belt as I can. I know that no one but me can see the buldge at the belt but I can. I am wondering about attachment as well. I have the belt loops with snaps for ease of on and off. I also have a split loop, I use because sometimes I straddle the belt loop. I am debating a solid loop to have all three. I want the smallest foot print but think that if I use one of the rigid mounts I may be able to pull off more wedge. The good news is the 9 week wait will be encouragement to lose a few pounds which will certainly help with concealment. Goal + Glock 17 AIWB in a tshirt at 5'7" 150 lbs.

[BobLoblaw]

...I am debating how much wedge. I know the smaller the gun the smaller the wedge. I want to make it as thin on the belt as I can...
I'm struggling with the same thoughts for my VP9. It seems to ride a tad higher in my P30L holster (prints a lot more) and the current sized wedge results in a decent belt bulge. Options...so many. I can't think for myself. I need an adult.

[Tony Mayer]

camsdaddy, for your size, I think I would go with the "skinny guy", soon to be known as the "George", version. Minimal wedge, with the extra tuck.
Bobbj22, same thing I think.

[Tony Mayer]

Guinessman and Lon, thanks for the kudos and the business. Appreciate it.

[MGW]

camsdaddy, for your size, I think I would go with the "skinny guy", soon to be known as the "George", version. Minimal wedge, with the extra tuck.
Bobbj22, same thing I think.

Is the minimal wedge less than the 19 wedge?

[imp1295]

camsdaddy, for your size, I think I would go with the "skinny guy", soon to be known as the "George", version. Minimal wedge, with the extra tuck.
Bobbj22, same thing I think.

Tony,
Next time you make a "skinny guy" version could you snap some pics?

Of the four of your AIWB holsters I've received I have come to realize that the "extra tuck" presses uncomfortably in on my pelvic area. No extra tuck seems right, but then it gets harder to get the grip tucked in along my body line. I've found the pushing the holster outboard, to about the 1 O'clock, tucked up against the first loop helps quite a bit.

Strangely enough, the holster for my M9 with no tuck works pretty well. I guess maybe it's the longer pistol that leverages the grip in more even without the tuck.

I too have problems with alot of extra bulk in the holster making it look like I have a colostomy bag down my shorts.

Your holsters rock man, I've just found that certain features from a variety of different holsters work well. Such as the wing on a SME works awesome, but it's a bit thick. But, your holsters are much thinner, but getting the pistol grip tucked in without the pressure in the pelvic region is harder...



Your holsters rock. Thanks a bunch...

[camsdaddy]

I think that is what took me so long to figure out which config. I knew adding the 17 length would automatically lean it in. I wasn't sure if the extra extra tuck would be too much. I think the 19 wedge will be perfect and allow me to carry my 19 or my 17

[imp1295]

For those who are attaching foam to Tony's holsters. What type of foam and what are some of our sources. Just looking for some ideas after reviewing clusterfack's post about his pillow pad. From his pics he seems to have a build similar to mine and some of the same issues with holster bulk at the belt line.

The extra tuck doesn't work because it's a hard structure, but maybe some foam will work.

Thanks ahead of time.

[Tony Mayer]

linkscoach, yes it is a Glock 26 size wedge. The "George" consists of .093 kydex, two sets of holes in the body of the holster for standard or high ride, and minimal wedge. Same belt loop options and price will start at $80.00.
imp1295, I will get some pics up on my website shortly, ping GJM, he may be able to get some pics for you.

[camsdaddy]

linkscoach, yes it is a Glock 26 size wedge. The "George" consists of .093 kydex, two sets of holes in the body of the holster for standard or high ride, and minimal wedge. Same belt loop options and price will start at $80.00.
imp1295, I will get some pics up on my website shortly, ping GJM, he may be able to get some pics for you.
Go ahead and throw mine together and feel free to take pics before throwing it in the mail. cough cough. Im kidding

[Clusterfrack]

I tried Kayak Foam (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=kayak%20foam%20blocks) in my first pads, but like my pillows better because they're softer, and you can wash them when they start smelling like sweaty cock.

Tony--are you sure you don't want to call the George version the "Clusterfrack"? ;-)


For those who are attaching foam to Tony's holsters. What type of foam and what are some of our sources. Just looking for some ideas after reviewing clusterfack's post about his pillow pad. From his pics he seems to have a build similar to mine and some of the same issues with holster bulk at the belt line.

The extra tuck doesn't work because it's a hard structure, but maybe some foam will work.

Thanks ahead of time.

[taadski]

Tony--are you sure you don't want to call the George version the "Clusterfrack"? ;-)

I would suspect you're gonna have to do a good bit of legwork to catch up with GJM's investment in Tony's holsters. ;)


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[Clusterfrack]

Yeah, I had to try though...


I would suspect you're gonna have to do a good bit of legwork to catch up with GJM's investment in Tony's holsters. ;)


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[xmanhockey7]

Tony,
As someone who has a problem with my current appendix holster digging into my pelvic area what would you recommend? I'm about 5'7" 160 pounds so I don't consider myself to be "skinny" although I'm definitely not overweight. Do you think a G17 size holster with no extra tuck would work for me? Also would it be possible to put in the comments part of the order that I'd like two sets of holes so I could adjust ride height?

[Guinnessman]

Here are some pictures of the VP9 AIWB that I am using for my P30:

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m162/GuinessMan/Mobile%20Uploads/A801D861-6968-442D-AF12-C90701C22F04_zpswtgatslo.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m162/GuinessMan/Mobile%20Uploads/C69C9E9A-C3DC-4892-B3A4-BF1C23213E21_zpsgpb3zcfz.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m162/GuinessMan/Mobile%20Uploads/CAC6538F-8876-404C-B273-6C1ED0EE5603_zpsyrt2fxtn.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m162/GuinessMan/Mobile%20Uploads/721AAC4E-3FC9-4675-953C-E14AC3252515_zpsgacsrlhy.jpg

It has the medium guard, extra tuck, with the medium wedge.

[Clusterfrack]

Very nice, Guinessman. A VP9 is in my future sometime soon...

What advantage is there to the thicker Kydex?

[Shellback]

What advantage is there to the thicker Kydex?

Being able to utilize 2 different height setups, from my understanding.

[Tony Mayer]

IRISH is correct in that the thicker kydex allows me to put two sets of holes in the holster body. It is also slightly better at dissipating heat and I like the more "rigid" retention.

[Tony Mayer]

Tony,
As someone who has a problem with my current appendix holster digging into my pelvic area what would you recommend? I'm about 5'7" 160 pounds so I don't consider myself to be "skinny" although I'm definitely not overweight. Do you think a G17 size holster with no extra tuck would work for me? Also would it be possible to put in the comments part of the order that I'd like two sets of holes so I could adjust ride height?

xmanhockey7, I think the extra tuck works great on anything over a 4" barrel so I would try it with the extra tuck first , you will have the two weeks to swap it out for one without should you not like it. If you order it in .093 kydex, I will automatically put two sets of holes in the body, been doing that for awhile now. The smaller wedge should work great for someone your size. Thanks and let me know if you have any more questions.

[23JAZ]

Can anyone tell me the difference in height between the soft, split, and solid loops? Also is there better tuck and concealment from one to the other? I currently have the soft loops and keep going back and forth on whether or not I want the gun just a tad higher. I think I do but then I start worrying that it will print more or make bending over to lace up boots or pick something up way more uncomfortable.

Carry = G19 in a G17 length, G19 wedge, with extra tuck and soft loops.

[s0nspark]

Can anyone tell me the difference in height between the soft, split, and solid loops? Also is there better tuck and concealment from one to the other? I currently have the soft loops and keep going back and forth on whether or not I want the gun just a tad higher. I think I do but then I start worrying that it will print more or make bending over to lace up boots or pick something up way more uncomfortable.

Carry = G19 in a G17 length, G19 wedge, with extra tuck and soft loops.

I just switched from the soft loops to the split kydex loop on both of my holsters (CZ75BD w/extra tuck and XDs without) and in both cases the split loop seems to me to carry a tad higher and print less. I would imagine the solid loop is the same except for being a little less flexible as far as positioning goes.

[23JAZ]

I just switched from the soft loops to the split kydex loop on both of my holsters (CZ75BD w/extra tuck and XDs without) and in both cases the split loop seems to me to carry a tad higher and print less. I would imagine the solid loop is the same except for being a little less flexible as far as positioning goes.

Thank you!

[littlejerry]

Can anyone tell me the difference in height between the soft, split, and solid loops? Also is there better tuck and concealment from one to the other? I currently have the soft loops and keep going back and forth on whether or not I want the gun just a tad higher. I think I do but then I start worrying that it will print more or make bending over to lace up boots or pick something up way more uncomfortable.

Carry = G19 in a G17 length, G19 wedge, with extra tuck and soft loops.

I carry a 19 in a 17 holster. Started with the snap loops for convenience but after losing a little weight it seemed like the loops printed worse than the gun. Bought both the standard and high ride split loop to experiment with and settled on the standard split. It prints a lot less and definitely stabilizes the holster better. A bit of a pain to get on now though with my Wilderness and Volund belts. Looking to upgrade to an Aegis belt for easy EDC. With a typical leather belt threading is easy.

[23JAZ]

I carry a 19 in a 17 holster. Started with the snap loops for convenience but after losing a little weight it seemed like the loops printed worse than the gun. Bought both the standard and high ride split loop to experiment with and settled on the standard split. It prints a lot less and definitely stabilizes the holster better. A bit of a pain to get on now though with my Wilderness and Volund belts. Looking to upgrade to an Aegis belt for easy EDC. With a typical leather belt threading is easy.

Did you find the standard height spilt loop to ride the same height as the soft loops or higher?

[littlejerry]

Did you find the standard height spilt loop to ride the same height as the soft loops or higher?
Similar. Don't think they were identical but close enough.

[Shellback]

Got my new AIWB and mag holder from Tony a day ago. Holster is G17 length, G19 wedge and extra tuck. I need to run it a few more days but at this point the JM will replace my Shaggy, Keeper and DSG holsters. For me, it's the ticket! Headed to Trader Joe's in my hippy-flage. :)

http://i62.tinypic.com/311ngj9.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/mbsmkg.jpg

[23JAZ]

Got my new AIWB and mag holder from Tony a day ago. Holster is G17 length, G19 wedge and extra tuck. I need to run it a few more days but at this point the JM will replace my Shaggy, Keeper and DSG holsters. For me, it's the ticket! Headed to Trader Joe's in my hippy-flage. :)

http://i62.tinypic.com/311ngj9.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/mbsmkg.jpg
High ride or low ride height?

[Shellback]

High ride or low ride height?

More like in the middle'ish. Here's what I wrote Tony regarding the height.


Regarding the height, if you could
shoot for somewhere in the middle,
that would be great. Last holster I
ordered from you was standard
height and I was abrading my
knuckle on my belt but I feel like high
ride may be a little too tall.

ETA - I'll have the wife take a better picture when she gets home later.

[Tony Mayer]

IRISH, thanks for the business, glad it's working for you.

[23JAZ]

More like in the middle'ish. Here's what I wrote Tony regarding the height.



ETA - I'll have the wife take a better picture when she gets home later.

Thats exactly what's going on right now with my standard height soft loops. My knuckles rub against my belt everytime I go to draw. Thinking I need a high riding split loop but hesitant because I don't want it to be too high and print more or be uncomfortable.

[Shellback]

Not sure if this helps but here it is...

http://i61.tinypic.com/6ygr9g.jpg

[Tony Mayer]

Jay23, your holster was .093 and should have the extra holes. If it doesn't, then I screwed the pooch and you can send it back and I will add the other set. Thanks

[MSparks909]

Tony is the only holster maker I use anymore. Bar none. I cannot recommend his work enough. I have his holsters for my P226, 1911, G17/19 and I have an AIWB/OWB/Single Mag Carrier and Dual Mag Carrier on order for my VP9.

[23JAZ]

Jay23, your holster was .093 and should have the extra holes. If it doesn't, then I screwed the pooch and you can send it back and I will add the other set. Thanks

Thanks Tony I"ll call you tomorrow.

[Guinnessman]

Not sure if this helps but here it is...

http://i61.tinypic.com/6ygr9g.jpg

Irish,

What belt is that? Thanks!

[Shellback]

It's a Wilderness 5 stitch. The buckle's at 10 o'clock.

I need new britches after seeing these photos. Dropped a few pounds and they're getting a wee bit baggy.

[Clusterfrack]

I use a Wilderness 5 stitch frequent flier 1.25" for AIWB. The thinner belt has just the right amount of sag. I found the 1.5" too rigid.

[camsdaddy]

Ive never thought about my belt being too stiff.

[s0nspark]

Ive never thought about my belt being too stiff.

Me either ... my Wilderness 5-stitch isn't stiff enough. I greatly prefer my SOE EDC Cobra belt or even my well-worn Looper leather belt.

[Clusterfrack]

When I switched to AIWB I tried using my Ares Ranger belt but figured out that having some flex and sag works better for me. The draw is still blazing fast, and there's no issue with retention.

[camsdaddy]

I will give a more flexible belt a try. I wear a 5 stitch 365 except Sunday mornings and date nights.

[Lon]

I just drove from Dayton OH to The FL panhandle wearing my JMCK AIWB rig (229) the entire trip. Comfortable all day.

[23JAZ]

Jay23, your holster was .093 and should have the extra holes. If it doesn't, then I screwed the pooch and you can send it back and I will add the other set. Thanks
Tony you didn't mess up, I did. I couldn't see any extra holes by lifting the soft loop out of the way. The holes are so close together it's covered by the loop screw backing. I dropped the loops to the lower hole, and although that hole is less then an 1/8 of an inch from the other it made a world of a difference. No more knuckles dragging across the top of my belt and I can get a nice firm master grip. Thanks Tony!

[Clusterfrack]

When I switched to AIWB I tried using my Ares Ranger belt but figured out that having some flex and sag works better for me. The draw is still blazing fast, and there's no issue with retention.

OrigamiAK and I were discussing belt stiffness yesterday at a USPSA match. He's switched to a very stiff belt--like the Ranger I used to use. His reasons were compelling and it's hard to argue with the "King of all Junk Carry". But I'm just more comfortable with a saggy belt for AIWB.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/24/f36d1165537295285b3ca3831ca7016e.jpg