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ToddG
03-19-2012, 08:50 AM
Please read the rules (http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?1837-Drill-of-the-Week) before participating in this thread.

Week 25: AMRAP Burst from Ready
results may be posted until 11:59pm EST on Monday 26-March-2012.

Range: 7yd
Target: 8" circle
Start position: ready position
Rounds fired: varies

AMRAP means As Many Rounds As Possible. Drills of this type break from the typical approach to speed shooting ("how fast can I do the drill?") and instead force the shooter to engage the target until it "disappears" ... in other words, until time runs out. We're going to do a series of these over the next few weeks, so this is just to get everyone's feet wet.

Set your shot timer to a PAR of 2 seconds (or use a turning target system measured at 2 seconds of face time). On the buzzer, fire as many rounds into the 8" circle as you can in the allotted time. If using a timer, check to make sure not to count any shots that were fired late.

Starting position will be any ready position of your choosing that does not involve the muzzle pointing at the target or target backer.

You'll repeat the drill a total of five times. With each repetition, try to push yourself a little bit harder to make just one more hit.

Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

Choice of ready position.
Number of shots fired and number of hits for each rep.



Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.

jetfire
03-19-2012, 09:02 AM
I saw "AMRAP" in the thread title and realized that crossfit has infected your mind. In an awesome way, of course.

ToddG
03-19-2012, 09:03 AM
I saw "AMRAP" in the thread title and realized that crossfit has infected your mind.

No, just my knees.

Actually, I first learned "AMRAP" in a shooting context and thought it was very funny that they used it in CrossFit.

jetfire
03-19-2012, 09:07 AM
No, just my knees.

Actually, I first learned "AMRAP" in a shooting context and thought it was very funny that they used it in CrossFit.

And now I'm in the exact reverse of that; I'd been using AMRAP in a fitness context for years and this is the first time I'm ever heard it used in shooting.

674

Mr_White
03-19-2012, 03:39 PM
Got it done early this week.

Ready position was threat ready (gun extended, muzzle depressed just below the bottom edge of the IDPA silhouette in this case.)

String 1: 6 fired, 4 hits
String 2: 8 fired, 6 hits
String 3: 8 fired, 7 hits
String 4: 8 fired, 7 hits
String 5: 8 fired, 8 hits

Unnecessary details:

String 1 (Gen3 G34 with Defoor sights) was completed in 1.59 seconds. The two misses were a bit low in the –1 zone. I was a little out of time with the recoil and drove those two shots down.

String 2 (Gen3 G34 with Ameriglo Operators with the original white ring on the front sight) was completed in 1.85 seconds. One miss was an inch low and one was an inch to the right.

String 3 (Gen3 G34 with mini-Hacks – Operators with the ring painted florescent red) was completed in 1.77 seconds. The miss was high by ½”.

String 4 (Gen3 G34 with Defoor sights) was completed in 1.73 seconds. The miss was low left out of the circle by about the minimum possible amount – grease ring just missed the line.

String 5 (Gen3 G34 with Defoor sights) was completed in 1.76 seconds.

First shot times were .33 to .37 or so. Splits were all .17 to .22.

I’m pretty strapped for ammo at the moment, so I was being stingy and making sure I didn’t overrun the PAR time excessively, but what ended up actually happening was that I stopped short of the PAR and didn’t fire another shot that I could have. Only string 2 didn’t leave enough time to get another shot under PAR. All the other strings had enough time left that there could easily have been one more shot fired.

I didn’t notice any functional difference between the three different sights in this drill.

ToddG
03-19-2012, 07:58 PM
http://pistol-training.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/dotw20120319.jpg

Starting position: high ready

String 1: 8 shots, 7 hits... 1 late
String 2: 8 shots, 8 hits
String 3: 9 shots, 8 hits ... 1 late
String 4: 9 shots, 8 hits ... 1 miss
String 5: 9 shots, 8 hits ... 1 late

jthhapkido
03-20-2012, 02:21 PM
Ready position: Low ready (pointed at base of target stand)
1: 7 shots, 1 over par, 1 miss, 5 hits
2: 8 shots, 1 over par, 1 miss, 6 hits
3: 8 shots, 2 over par, 6 hits
4: 7 shots, 1 over par, 6 hits
5: 8 shots, 1 over par, 7 hits

[sigh] I get my first shot off at an average of .45 s, the first split is invariably about .30, the next three average about .22 each, then after the fourth or fifth shot there is normally a split of about .30, then the rest are .25-ish.

On video, my stance is decent, my grip placement is fine (not losing the grip, the gun is still under control) except that the more I fire rapidly, the tighter my grip gets with my strong hand, and after the 4th or 5th shot, I can't control the trigger properly without a brief relaxation that takes extra time.

Apparently, I have an in-built 3-to-4 round burst capability with automatic disconnect. :( (From a REALLY SLOW machinegun.)

Need to work on keeping that strong hand more relaxed under multiple shots.

BobR
03-22-2012, 09:55 AM
This is the most fun I've had at the range in a long time!

I don't know if it's the page of P-T drills, and DotW finally paying off...but that was fun.

CCT125US
03-22-2012, 10:07 AM
HK P30 V3
RSS extended confirmed ready method. Using this I was getting first hit very near .50 second with first shot TDA.... I like this method
S1: 7/8 1 late
S2: 7/7 clean
S3: 6/9 2 miss 1 late
S4: 7/9 1 miss 1 late
S5: 8/8 clean

SamuelBLong
03-22-2012, 11:08 PM
Drill: DOTW Week 25 - AMRAP
Gun: HK P30L LEM v4 9mm
Ammo: WWB 115gr FMJ
Position: High Compressed Ready
Distance: 7 Yds
Par Time: 2.0

Run 1


7 Shots, 7 Hits

0.81/.22/.20/.18/.18/.19/.19 - 1.97


Run 2


8 Shots, 8 Hits

0.74/.19/.19/.17/.18/.17/.18/.16 - 1.98


Run 3


8 Shots, 8 Hits

0.72/.21/.18/.17/.18/.16/.19/.18 - 1.99


Run 4


8 Shots, 8 Hits; 0.06 Over Par

0.74/.21/.18/.17/.18/.16/.19/.18 - 2.06



Run 5


9 Shots, 8 Hits, 0.04 Over Par

0.64/.20/.18/.17/.17/.16/.18/.17/.17 (M) - 2.04


Avg. First Shot - 0.73
Avg. Split - 0.18

bdcheung
03-23-2012, 07:23 AM
Ready position: high ready, muzzle pointed below the cardboard.

String 1: 4 shots fired, 1 hit
String 2: 4 shots fired, 3 hits
String 3: 4 shots fired, 3 hits
String 4: 5 shots fired, 4 hits

DocGKR
03-23-2012, 11:47 PM
G19 w/RMR07 at high ready:

1: 6 shots, 6hits
2: 7 shots, 7 hits
3: 9 shots, 2 over par, 7 hits
4: 8 shots, 1 over par, 7 hits
5: 7 shots, 7 hits

Started by running all three Defoor tests, then the DOW. Best clean FAST was 5.54 sec. 500 pt aggregate was 477-14x. The replacement trigger bar appears to have cured all the stiff, gritty trigger issues that I reported on the last DOW...

zml342
03-24-2012, 08:11 AM
HK P30 V3
Start position: compressed high ready

String 1: 6 shots, 1 hit (4 out, 1 OT)
String 2: 4 shots, 3 hits
String 3: 4 shots, 2 hits
String 4: 4 shots, 3 hits
String 5: 5 shots, 4 hits

After that first string going so poorly, I slowed down a lot for the subsequent strings and never got comfortable to push myself again. I also found that I wasn't prepping the trigger enough on the press out, therefore my shots weren't breaking at extension.

CraigBos
03-25-2012, 04:45 PM
Choice of ready position: Low ready
Number of shots fired and number of hits for each rep.

1
1 (-1)
1 (plus one late at 2.13 sec)
2 (plus one late at 2.57 sec)
1 (plus one late at 2.19 sec)



So a couple of things about this drill: First, I shot it under the rules as listed. In prior weeks I have shortened the distance and/or increased the par time. This week, I felt comfortable enough to give it a go. And I was happy with the accuracy. The quantity of shots down range was very slow. I think this was primarily due to the long time it is taking me to get a sight picture. Sounds like something to practice in dry fire.

All in all, a good drill. Thanks.

joshs
03-25-2012, 05:14 PM
I had to use a 5x8 card because I forgot to bring the correct target.
Starting position: high ready

String 1: 7 shots/5 hits
String 2: 7 shots/6 hits
String 3: 7 shots/6 hits
String 4: 6 shots/6 hits
String 5: 7 shots/6 hits

BaiHu
03-25-2012, 08:50 PM
Tried, but my shot timer app couldn't keep up with my shots-it stopped counting after 3. Anyone else use the IPSC shot timer on Android?
Time to get a real timer :(

MarekH
03-26-2012, 01:17 PM
Drill was shot from Low Ready.

string 1 3 shots/ 3 hits
string 2: 4 shots/ 4 hits
string 3: 5 shots/ 5 hits
string 4: 6 shots/ 6 hits
string 5: 9 shots/ 3 hits

MarekH

P.S.It is my first post here, so I would like to say hello!

Slavex
03-27-2012, 05:26 AM
Dumb me didnt pay attention to start position. Did all from a draw
String 1: 6 shots, all hit
String 2: 6 shots, stopped myself early, seemed to just want to shoot 6
String 3: 6 shots, same as above, very frustrating
String 4: 7 shots, all hits, last shot 1.99
String 5: 6 shots, all hits, noticeable pause at round 3. heard the beep just as I was ready to try for 7

going to run this again, even though I know I can't submit it to this thread. But this time I will do from ready position.