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bullet4x4
03-05-2019, 02:53 AM
Hi everyone
I'm after some advice on the Norinco NZ 75 , I'm looking at getting one for my first pistol and wondering about their reliability and interchangeably with cz75 parts and magazines I can't find much about it on the internet.
Regards bullet4x4

That Guy
03-05-2019, 06:54 AM
Is there a specific reason why you are considering a Chinese copy of a Czech pistol as your first?

AFAIK, Chinese guns may work as a cheap starting point for a custom build, but usability in stock form may be lacking. My personal experience is limited to a single Norinco 1911 though.

BigT
03-05-2019, 07:31 AM
Its got more in common with 90's era Tanfoglios than with a CZ

I would steer clear, this is not a Norinco 1911 in quality

Alpha Sierra
03-05-2019, 07:40 AM
Just say No to Chinese junk (don't mean their boats, those work well)

Hambo
03-05-2019, 08:04 AM
I can't find much about it on the internet.

That's a clue. Don't buy guns for which holsters, mags, and parts are not common.

bullet4x4
03-05-2019, 08:37 AM
The price is the main reason I'm just trying to get my first pistol in the safe the same dealer has a norinco 1911 with a couple of extra mags for about the same price, I assumed all norincos would be the same quality and I've only heard good things about the 1911 model so assumed the 75 would be ok

bullet4x4
03-05-2019, 08:50 AM
Its got more in common with 90's era Tanfoglios than with a CZ

I would steer clear, this is not a Norinco 1911 in quality
Are you saying a norinco 1911 is better quality than a norinco nd 75?

vcdgrips
03-05-2019, 12:34 PM
Concur x 10. If money is driving the train, police turn ins ( Mostly Glock and S&W) in both 9 and especially in .40 cal abound for 300ish. New S&W SDs (redone Sigmas) are not much more. CDNN and Summit Gunbroker are good places to start.

In the strongest/most polite terms possible-you are doing precisely the wrong thing by buying a 3rd tier gun at best for your first handgun.

Lester Polfus
03-05-2019, 02:56 PM
Hey,

Are you in Canada? Because I'm not even sure that pistol is available in the US.

If you are, I think your options are different than what we have down here in the US, particularly as it pertains to police turn-ins, so I hesitate to recommend what TO buy, but my advice to NOT buy the NZ-75 is the same no matter where you are.

Guns are expensive and the cost is a big hurdle to get over for new shooters. The classic new shooter mistake (which I made myself) is to buy a price-point pistol for which parts and accessories are hard to come by, experience reliability and/or durability issues, and then wind up buying a better pistol after that.

So you wind up spending more money in the long run....

Joe in PNG
03-05-2019, 04:12 PM
Hey,

Are you in Canada? Because I'm not even sure that pistol is available in the US.

If you are, I think your options are different than what we have down here in the US, particularly as it pertains to police turn-ins, so I hesitate to recommend what TO buy, but my advice to NOT buy the NZ-75 is the same no matter where you are.

Guns are expensive and the cost is a big hurdle to get over for new shooters. The classic new shooter mistake (which I made myself) is to buy a price-point pistol for which parts and accessories are hard to come by, experience reliability and/or durability issues, and then wind up buying a better pistol after that.

So you wind up spending more money in the long run....

I will second this. You will eventually spend far more money on cheap gear than if you just bought the right thing in the first place.

Alpha Sierra
03-05-2019, 04:16 PM
I will second this. You will eventually spend far more money on cheap gear than if you just bought the right thing in the first place.

third

bullet4x4
03-05-2019, 05:22 PM
I probably should have mentioned I'm in Australia and there is a waiting period and I'm still waiting for my pistol license to be approved but I need a pistol to take to the range to keep my shoots up, definitely intend on getting a couple more such as a 357 revolver and a shadow 2 but at 2k it's a long way off both the norincos are ,$400 and are doable for me atm anyway I'll give it some thought and keep looking

Nephrology
03-05-2019, 06:50 PM
I probably should have mentioned I'm in Australia and there is a waiting period and I'm still waiting for my pistol license to be approved but I need a pistol to take to the range to keep my shoots up, definitely intend on getting a couple more such as a 357 revolver and a shadow 2 but at 2k it's a long way off both the norincos are ,$400 and are doable for me atm anyway I'll give it some thought and keep looking

I am not familiar with the market for handguns in australia, but if you want that style of pistol, you will be much happier spending extra money on a real CZ-75.

If you are concerned about your budget, I would buy something used, in 9mm, made by any of the following companies (availability assumed based on a quick scroll through this website (https://www.usedguns.com.au/SearchResults.aspx?term=&calibre=9mm&sold=false)):

Glock
Smith and Wesson
Beretta
Heckler and Koch
Walther
CZ
SIG Sauer
Springfield Armory

As has been said, you will spend more money in the long run if you buy cheap now. I know this because I made this mistake myself.

If that website is correct it looks like you can get a used 9mm Glock or Smith and Wesson M&P9 in the ~$500-600 range. I would go for that.

Lester Polfus
03-05-2019, 06:59 PM
I think with all the hoops you have to jump through to own a handgun in Austraila, it's even more important to get a good one.

If I buy a lemon here in the US, I can get disgusted, hope in the car, and drive an hour to one of several gunshops where I can buy whatever I want as long as there is enough room on my credit card. In your case, if you get a lemon you'll start that long wait all over again.

TicTacticalTimmy
03-05-2019, 08:22 PM
Looking through that used gun site, I am seeing a CZ75B for $600. I would defibitely reccomend saving up for that as it is at least 50% better than the Chinese clone and you will make the difference back if you ever decide to sell it.

olstyn
03-05-2019, 08:54 PM
Looking through that used gun site, I am seeing a CZ75B for $600. I would defibitely reccomend saving up for that as it is at least 50% better than the Chinese clone and you will make the difference back if you ever decide to sell it.

To the OP: this goes for any other clone as well, especially the unauthorized ones - if you're looking at a Canik, wait til you can afford a Walther. If you're looking at a Taurus PT-92, wait til you can afford a Beretta. If you're looking at a [what's a fake Glock?], wait until you can afford a Glock, etc. You will almost never be making the wrong decision if you save up for the better product.

bullet4x4
03-05-2019, 10:13 PM
Thanks for the advice definitely want a hammer fired steel pistol either a cz75 or a 1911 just excited I guess I could have one to use in the next couple of weeks or a couple more months of saving guess I'll take a deep breath and wait

Bigghoss
03-05-2019, 10:37 PM
I probably should have mentioned I'm in Australia and there is a waiting period and I'm still waiting for my pistol license to be approved but I need a pistol to take to the range to keep my shoots up, definitely intend on getting a couple more such as a 357 revolver and a shadow 2 but at 2k it's a long way off both the norincos are ,$400 and are doable for me atm anyway I'll give it some thought and keep looking

Check out Ozziereviews on YT. I don't know much about the Australian gun market but CZ, Beretta 92 and PX4, HK, Smith and Wesson and Glock are all pretty safe bets. I'm probably forgetting some. If you're limited to 10 rounds then avoid Glocks with reduced capacity mags.

LockedBreech
03-06-2019, 12:11 AM
Thanks for the advice definitely want a hammer fired steel pistol either a cz75 or a 1911 just excited I guess I could have one to use in the next couple of weeks or a couple more months of saving guess I'll take a deep breath and wait

I am a bit ingloriously known on this forum for a long period where I bought basically a gun every two weeks. Trust me when I say it's worth it to wait for the RIGHT one. A gun is not perishable like shoes or clothes. A quality, reliable, well known gun design can very easily last the rest of your life. You're choosing a tool that may accompany you the rest of your days. Choose it patiently.

bullet4x4
03-06-2019, 12:45 AM
Certainly will be patient now after the responses I've received here I've watched a lot of reviews over the last 12 months and shot a few different pistols and liked the cz75 the best so I'll keep saving

BigT
03-06-2019, 05:54 AM
The Norinco 1911 is a solid base to be customised. Out the box they're rough and not particularly competitive.

With the launch of Shadow 2 look into second hand SP01 Shadows I know that here the value on those has dropped dramatically with the launch of Shadow 2

Hambo
03-06-2019, 06:44 AM
Thanks for the advice definitely want a hammer fired steel pistol either a cz75 or a 1911 just excited I guess I could have one to use in the next couple of weeks or a couple more months of saving guess I'll take a deep breath and wait

Do it. If you wait for a Shadow you will not be disappointed. I shot a Shadow 2 and the DA trigger is unbelievable.