Taurus G2C -- pleasantly surprised

[critter]

Had the opportunity to shoot one of these a good bit last night. It was actually quite fun to shoot. I haven't kept up to date with Taurus releases, so I didn't know this one existed. I put, roughly, 300 AE 147's, and 50 HST 147's down range.

First impressions Cons:

1) More a flaw in my vision but worth mentioning: front sight was extremely difficult for me to pick up. It's a white dot, but just small and seemed faint. I found myself having to raise my nose to focus the progressives in on it at first. I have no idea about after market sight availability. Rear sight is adjustable. This became less of a hassle after the first couple of mags but I never was able to pick up the sight well. The 147's were a 6:00 hold, and printed a slightly above post at 7 and 15yds.

2) It has a looooong take up on the trigger and a somewhat spongy break, reminiscent of a rolling break but not quite. Reset is tactile and ok. I got used to it fairly quickly and was having zero problems with the groups after the first mag.

3) It's a Taurus budget pistol. Seemed solid, and functioned flawlessly for me, but I have no idea of the overall build quality.

4) slide mounted manual safety, but it didn't get in the way at any time so it can simply be ignored.

Pros:

1) ergos are good and it points naturally.

2) the striker cocks on reset which enables a second strike on a misfire a la double action hammer.

3) the trigger is quite smooth and isn't heavy at all - I didn't have a gauge, but it felt slightly lighter than the Glock -- my wag is about 5 lbs. (this one was beyond any break-in period already having a couple thousand rounds through it)

4) decent grip texture.

5) 12 +1 capacity (comes with two mags) -- overall about the size of a G26 with mag extension

6) Bud's 'cash' price $212 for black, $214 black/FDE, $234 SS/gray

Overall, this seems a solid little budget pistol and my initial experience with it was quite positive.

I think I'm going to buy one and run it through the 2000 round gauntlet and see whether it comes out the other side fit for duty. When anyone asks me about a new budget pistol, I usually point to the S&W SV9E, which is a solid pistol (though a little larger) and hard to beat for the price. The G2C is a very nice carry size.

There is also a single stack model, the G2S, which I've not seen up close. It's currently selling for $191 at Buds.

[GardoneVT]

While a Taurus wouldn’t be my first choice of pistol, it’s a lot better then nothing. In a day and age of $600 duty pistols and $400 CCW permits , there’s a need for a budget pistol.

[jetfire]

350 rounds might be the new record for "most rounds fired through a Taurus Millennium"

[critter]

4) **slide mounted manual safety, but it didn't get in the way at any time so it can simply be ignored.



**Correction... the manual safety is NOT 'slide mounted.' It's on the frame just behind the slide stop. It's also very tactile, easily operated similarly to a 1911, and snaps firmly on or off.

[TAZ]

My brother has one. Got a chance to shoot it over Christmas. I will admit it was a pleasant surprise. I was able to hit well with it, ran reliably for about 200 rounds if mixed on sale ammo abs ergonomic were good for a subcompact. I’ve been toying with buying one as a “car gun”, coupled with a lock box of sorts. $219 at Academy makes it pretty tempting.

[HopetonBrown]

While a Taurus wouldn’t be my first choice of pistol, it’s a lot better then nothing. In a day and age of $600 duty pistols and $400 CCW permits , there’s a need for a budget pistol.

In a day and age of $250 M&P Shields, $390 M&P 2.0s and $260 Ruger LC9s I'd say there are already budget pistols from companies with a near infinitely better track record.

I guess the OP has way more time, money and patience than I do because from my from my view I see zero reason for fucking with a Taurus. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190115/b566ee5ebb0202bf441f033e8123dca2.jpg

[gtae07]

350 rounds might be the new record for "most rounds fired through a Taurus Millennium"

I had over 1000 rounds through mine before I sold it. No issues.

Now I buy better guns.

[Chuck Haggard]

The last seven Taurus revolvers and two semi auto pistols I've personally seen were unserviceable right out of the box. As in wouldn't even dry fire, etc. Years ago Taurus was a decent choice, but their QC took a dive about ten years ago.

A friend bought one of these, her's lost the rear sight in under 200 rounds through the gun. Weird malfs, etc.

Hard pass.

[45dotACP]

In a day and age of $250 M&P Shields, $390 M&P 2.0s and $260 Ruger LC9s I'd say there are already budget pistols from companies with a near infinitely better track record.

I guess the OP has way more time, money and patience than I do because from my from my view I see zero reason for fucking with a Taurus. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190115/b566ee5ebb0202bf441f033e8123dca2.jpgThis x1,000.

Also, police duty weapon trade ins are cheap. There is literally no reason for me to buy a Taurus.

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[HCM]

Not to be the guy that simply restates a portion of the OP or completely changes the subject (that guy is a douche), but the SD9 series of pistols continue to be my favorite budget-friendly pistol option. They are routinely available (https://www.gunbroker.com/item/791961694) for under (sometimes significantly under) $250.

This ^^^ - there is a place for a budget pistol and the SD9 is my recommendation for a budget pistol.

[critter]

I guess the OP has way more time, money and patience than I do because from my from my view I see zero reason for fucking with a Taurus.

Ahh... Pretty much just boredom with pistol and rifle shooting these days. Screwing around with some less expensive firearms seems interesting at the moment. Gonna take a look at the new Mossberg pistol at some point as well.

[Joe in PNG]

Our Tam did run a flawless 2k test of an old Ruger P-89.

I like seeing the cheap guns getting a run through the 2k wringer. Let's see if they can do the full monty.

[TheNewbie]

Posts like this are more interesting to me than someone letting us know their V9, Glock 19, M&P etc. made it through a 2K round test.


Not because Taurus is a serious option , but it’s something different. If I had plenty of money, I would do reviews of all the low end budget pistols I could find. It would be more of a fun thing vs a serious thing.

[TheNewbie]

The last seven Taurus revolvers and two semi auto pistols I've personally seen were unserviceable right out of the box. As in wouldn't even dry fire, etc. Years ago Taurus was a decent choice, but their QC took a dive about ten years ago.

A friend bought one of these, her's lost the rear sight in under 200 rounds through the gun. Weird malfs, etc.

Hard pass.


Wow, that’s uninspiring even for Taurus. What kind of issues did you witness?

[JonInWA]

To state that anything from Taurus would have problems gaining any traction whatsoever from this forum is probably the understatement of 2019 (so far). I'd trust a SIG P320 before a Taurus, and I've banned the P320s from duty use...

Best, Jon

[JonInWA]

Our Tam did run a flawless 2k test of an old Ruger P-89.

I like seeing the cheap guns getting a run through the 2k wringer. Let's see if they can do the full monty.

As I've yammered/blogged about about before on p-f, the venerable P89 is actually a quite good pistol in its own right. Tam was a bit more critical about its ergos than I am, but her end results speak volumes, and concur with mine. https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?11782-My-DA-SA-Traditional-Ruger-P89

If you can find a P89 in semi-decent shape (and they seem to come in about 2 varieties for resale: Quite nice and seemingly dragged behind Bubba's pick-em-up on a gravel road), I'd jump on it if you want a quality DA/SA.

Best, Jon

[GardoneVT]

Overall, this seems a solid little budget pistol and my initial experience with it was quite positive.

I think I'm going to buy one and run it through the 2000 round gauntlet and see whether it comes out the other side fit for duty. When anyone asks me about a new budget pistol, I usually point to the S&W SV9E, which is a solid pistol (though a little larger) and hard to beat for the price. The G2C is a very nice carry size.

There is also a single stack model, the G2S, which I've not seen up close. It's currently selling for $191 at Buds.

I have to ask what the point is of a 2000 round test. Assuming for the moment the pistol made it to even 1500 rounds intact, all you’ve proven is that exact gun worked OK. With Taurus’ QC,reliability will be a case by case basis. Whether your example passes or fails doesn’t change the fact Taurus products are options of last resort, and in the case of their revolvers not even then.

[critter]

I have to ask what the point is of a 2000 round test. Assuming for the moment the pistol made it to even 1500 rounds intact, all you’ve proven is that exact gun worked OK. With Taurus’ QC, reliability will be a case by case basis. Whether your example passes or fails doesn’t change the fact Taurus products are options of last resort, and in the case of their revolvers not even then.

You do have a point.

[Joe in PNG]

You do have a point.

If you can afford it, shooting the crap out of crap guns is a worthy research goal. The usual rejoinder of the fans of the derp tier to criticism is that one is just a gun snob.
Having actual honest scientific data from a 2k test to show them wrong is a good thing.

But on the gripping hand, most fans of derpy gear aren't ever really convinced by things like "data".

[gtae07]

If you can afford it, shooting the crap out of crap guns is a worthy research goal. The usual rejoinder of the fans of the derp tier to criticism is that one is just a gun snob.
Having actual honest scientific data from a 2k test to show them wrong is a good thing.

But on the gripping hand, most fans of derpy gear aren't ever really convinced by things like "data".

Props on "gripping hand" :cool:

I know too many people at work enamored with SCCYs and Taurus and other low-end pistols. Yeah, I had a Taurus once; I bought it because I had little money (fresh out of college, no shooting background beyond BB guns) and really didn't know any better at the time. And torture-testing some would be fun too, if I had unlimited funds.

[rcu316]

Posts like this are more interesting to me than someone letting us know their V9, Glock 19, M&P etc. made it through a 2K round test.


Not because Taurus is a serious option , but it’s something different. If I had plenty of money, I would do reviews of all the low end budget pistols I could find. It would be more of a fun thing vs a serious thing.

That's more the less why I picked one up. I just wanted to see what the G2C was about. I've got 500 rounds through it. It wasn't perfect but the last 150 rounds there haven't been any issues. I did polish the chamber and switch to a Lakeline Stainless recoil to get there though.

[Duelist]

Props on "gripping hand" :cool:

I know too many people at work enamored with SCCYs and Taurus and other low-end pistols. Yeah, I had a Taurus once; I bought it because I had little money (fresh out of college, no shooting background beyond BB guns) and really didn't know any better at the time. And torture-testing some would be fun too, if I had unlimited funds.

A friend of mine owns a SCCY someone gave him. I shot it to make sure it worked. It does, but if I never shoot that little beast again, it'll be too soon.

[GardoneVT]

If you can afford it, shooting the crap out of crap guns is a worthy research goal. The usual rejoinder of the fans of the derp tier to criticism is that one is just a gun snob.
Having actual honest scientific data from a 2k test to show them wrong is a good thing.

But on the gripping hand, most fans of derpy gear aren't ever really convinced by things like "data".

Properly testing a brand of pistols to statistically valid standards requires a substantially larger logistical investment then one gun and a 2,000 round crate of ammo.

[Joe in PNG]

Properly testing a brand of pistols to statistically valid standards requires a substantially larger logistical investment then one gun and a 2,000 round crate of ammo.

Yes it does. But the more data available, the better.

And, if one shoots derp tier guns, there's a good chance that they will be shooting more than one single gun, if you factor in the warranty replacements.

[critter]

The history of the G2C, or technically the PT111 which appears to be its god awful version one predecessor, is rather interesting to say the least. As mentioned in the OP, I haven't followed Taurus in a while (probable a couple of decades) so all of this is, quite literally, news to me. Purportedly, the G2C addresses the issues plaguing the PT111 (e.g., a keyed striker lock which would randomly engage by shooting firearm??? what the actual hell?)

The only thing I have to go on is the one sample and it was solid for those 350 or so rounds of decent quality ammo,, and I was indeed pleasantly surprised that it a) functioned flawlessly, and b) shot very well once acclimated to the rather unique trigger. It absolutely needs some better sights. Compared to the G27.6x (G27 with 9mm conversion with 15rnd mags/xgrips) the G2C held its own well enough for that range session.

[TGS]

Properly testing a brand of pistols to statistically valid standards requires a substantially larger logistical investment then one gun and a 2,000 round crate of ammo.

This is pistol-forum.com.

If someone wants to shoot a 2000 round test on a pistol and report back the results, that's a good thing.

[GardoneVT]

This is pistol-forum.com.

If someone wants to shoot a 2000 round test on a pistol and report back the results, that's a good thing.

It’s not a statistically valid test. It’s an evaluation of a single pistol. Not a bad thing- but let’s call a spade a spade.

[critter]

Damn. I forgot about this:



* The pistol cannot be cleaned, lubricated, or maintained in any way during the entire 2,000 round test period.


Will the medication required to treat the never before seen levels of neurosis generated by firearm cleaning OCD actually disqualify from having the pistol in my possession? This will be a major challenge for both shooter and shootee.

[Joe in PNG]

Will the medication required to treat the never before seen levels of neurosis generated by firearm cleaning OCD actually disqualify from having the pistol in my possession? This will be a major challenge for both shooter and shootee.

Nope, got to learn to love running it hard and putting it away wet.

[willie]

The erudite among us will enjoy reading and studying within the Taurus forum. Age has diminished my mischievous side. Were that not so I would join and troll there. There are two pretty and smart young ladies who post there. I wonder if........???

[LockedBreech]

Not to be the guy that simply restates a portion of the OP or completely changes the subject (that guy is a douche), but the SD9 series of pistols continue to be my favorite budget-friendly pistol option. They are routinely available (https://www.gunbroker.com/item/791961694) for under (sometimes significantly under) $250.

I may have sold it because the niche was filled and I didn't really use it, but my SD9 was a hell of a lot of gun for how cheap they are now.

[Trooper224]

As I've yammered/blogged about about before on p-f, the venerable P89 is actually a quite good pistol in its own right. Tam was a bit more critical about its ergos than I am, but her end results speak volumes, and concur with mine. https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?11782-My-DA-SA-Traditional-Ruger-P89

If you can find a P89 in semi-decent shape (and they seem to come in about 2 varieties for resale: Quite nice and seemingly dragged behind Bubba's pick-em-up on a gravel road), I'd jump on it if you want a quality DA/SA.

Best, Jon


I've shot several variants of the Ruger P Series over the years and owned a P90 briefly, years ago. They aren't something I'd go looking for today, but they are indeed a "hell and back" kind of handgun.

Taurus? I won't even touch a Taurus for fear of contracting some kind of flesh wasting disease.

[11B10]

I may have sold it because the niche was filled and I didn't really use it, but my SD9 was a hell of a lot of gun for how cheap they are now.


Years ago, I bought an SD40 because it was highly recommended by a good friend, a gun smart retired LEO, who told me to just "shoot the shit outta that gun." I had never shot a Smith and Wesson semiautomatic, took his advice and was impressed. It became my "nightstand back up gun," a second gun stashed in an accessible place if somehow I became separated from my "primary nightstand gun." I can't remember ever having an issue with that firearm. I sold it because, if memory serves, someone offered me more than I paid for it. Of course, my hindsight, like everyone's, is 20/20 and I now wish I hadn't.

[critter]

I still have the remains of a Sigma SW9VE from way back -- early 2001 I think. A little less updated than the SD line (which I still mistakenly call SV because I'm old and deteriorating), but a solid pistol anyway. It was also a nightstand pistol before Dad and his Alzheimer nuttery sneaked in, remembered the safe combo, stole it, and destroyed it shortly before he passed. That was in 2011. He never did reveal what on earth was going through his mind when he decided to do that. I should just toss it because it could be illegal in its current form (though completely non-functioning) but it's like a strange connection to him. Anyway, it had several thousand rounds through it at the time of its untimely demise.

[GardoneVT]

Damn. I forgot about this:



Will the medication required to treat the never before seen levels of neurosis generated by firearm cleaning OCD actually disqualify from having the pistol in my possession? This will be a major challenge for both shooter and shootee.

Your Taurus’ll bite the dust long before it’ll get dirty.

[critter]

Your Taurus’ll bite the dust long before it’ll get dirty.

That cracked me up. If so, I'll move on to the Canik TP9SF Elite and see if I can destroy that one as well.

[scjbash]

I have a G2C on the way. It might be the best selling gun locally and a friend who is a Kydex bender said it's his best selling holster. I know multiple people who got them for Christmas and plan on using them in classes this year.

I don't have any personal interest in the gun but since it's popular I'm going to put up the $155 and shoot a variety of shit through it. I'll post in the 2000 round challenge thread. It might take a bit to hit that round count because my ammo budget is tight at the moment and I don't want to put much of it toward a fucking Taurus.