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Bigguy
12-21-2018, 06:33 PM
In a 2007 film titled “Shooter” Mark Wahlberg plays a retired Force Recon (?) veteran, framed for murder. He is wounded and stops by a convenience store for “medical” supplies. Among other things, he gets some tubing and some sort of carbonated soft drink that I got the impression he was using to combat blood loss.
First of all, if somebody else saw the move, do I have the story straight?
Second, if I do, what the heck would he do with tubing a bottle of carbonated soft drink?

LOKNLOD
12-21-2018, 06:44 PM
In a 2007 film titled “Shooter” Mark Wahlberg plays a retired Force Recon (?) veteran, framed for murder. He is wounded and stops by a convenience store for “medical” supplies. Among other things, he gets some tubing and some sort of carbonated soft drink that I got the impression he was using to combat blood loss.
First of all, if somebody else saw the move, do I have the story straight?
Second, if I do, what the heck would he do with tubing a bottle of carbonated soft drink?

I think he uses salt in a water bottle to make a "saline" and injects it with a turkey injector (aka the most painful IV needle ever).

Artemas2
12-21-2018, 06:55 PM
In a 2007 film titled “Shooter” Mark Wahlberg plays a retired Force Recon (?) veteran, framed for murder. He is wounded and stops by a convenience store for “medical” supplies. Among other things, he gets some tubing and some sort of carbonated soft drink that I got the impression he was using to combat blood loss.
First of all, if somebody else saw the move, do I have the story straight?
Second, if I do, what the heck would he do with tubing a bottle of carbonated soft drink?

Watch the next 3 minutes of the movie:rolleyes:

Seriously though, It has been a some time since I saw the movie last and could not find the clip online. My not-a-mdeical-guy guess is he either did a saline injection or if it was some type of sugar water, it could be a field expedient adrenaline.

My experience with livestock that are low energy after a bad birth. A sugar/ B12 IV will get them back on their feet in short order.

HCM
12-21-2018, 07:06 PM
Sugar and Honey have both been used to treat wounds for hundreds of years, if not longer. They promote healing and help prevent, it at least reduce the chance of infection.

HCM
12-21-2018, 07:07 PM
Sugar and Honey have both been used to treat wounds for hundreds of years, if not longer. They promote healing and help prevent, it at least reduce the chance of infection.

As I recall, modern tests showed Honey actually working better than sugar but they both work.

Bigguy
12-21-2018, 07:12 PM
I think he uses salt in a water bottle to make a "saline" and injects it with a turkey injector (aka the most painful IV needle ever).

I'd forgot about the turkey baster. I suspect you're right about him making normal saline.

Stephanie B
12-21-2018, 09:22 PM
How did Walberg work past the possibility of a “felon in possession” beef? The DVD extra shows him shooting at a long-distance range (or so I recall).

BehindBlueI's
12-21-2018, 09:25 PM
Sugar and Honey have both been used to treat wounds for hundreds of years, if not longer.

Longer. The Quran talks about the healing properties of honey, so it was known at least 1400-ish years.


And the lord inspired the bee...There comes forth from their bellies a drink of varying color wherein is healing for men.

I've read the Egyptians were the originators of honey as wound care, while other civilizations used beer/wine or various oils. I haven't really studied it, just come across it while reading on other topics, so I won't vouch for the veracity.

HCM
12-21-2018, 09:40 PM
How did Walberg work past the possibility of a “felon in possession” beef? The DVD extra shows him shooting at a long-distance range (or so I recall).

Ive asked that question myself. A few years back he applied for legal process in MA to have his felony reduced or expunged and was denied.

Suvorov
12-21-2018, 10:11 PM
As I recall - the book goes into this in relitave depth. The FBI agent is a lot more competent than the Che shirt wearing dunce in the movie. It was an ok movie but a phenomenal book.

Lon
12-21-2018, 11:16 PM
The shitty movie was based on Point of Impact by Stephen Hunter. Great book. Really great from a gun technical aspect. There are 5 or 6 books in the series.

UNM1136
12-22-2018, 04:56 AM
The shitty movie was based on Point of Impact by Stephen Hunter. Great book. Really great from a gun technical aspect. There are 5 or 6 books in the series.

Yeah, but he should have stopped after Point of Impact. The stories got worse and worse worse as Bob the Nailer got more well known.

Point of Impact was awesome, and I was disappointed more and more as the stories rolled on.

pat

Lon
12-22-2018, 06:40 AM
Yeah, but he should have stopped after Point of Impact. The stories got worse and worse worse as Bob the Nailer got more well known.

Point of Impact was awesome, and I was disappointed more and more as the stories rolled on.

pat

I don’t disagree. Pale Horse Coming was good, though.

Hambo
12-22-2018, 06:55 AM
Second, if I do, what the heck would he do with tubing a bottle of carbonated soft drink?

Would you run that shit he whipped up directly into one of your veins? I didn't think so. Movie stupidity.

BobM
12-22-2018, 07:02 AM
Yeah, but he should have stopped after Point of Impact. The stories got worse and worse worse as Bob the Nailer got more well known.

Point of Impact was awesome, and I was disappointed more and more as the stories rolled on.

pat

I liked the first three but the subsequent books weren't nearly as good. I also didn't like how they dumbed down the Memphis character in the movie.

Robinson
12-23-2018, 12:01 AM
I don’t disagree. Pale Horse Coming was good, though.

Yep, the three Earl Swagger books are my favorites by Hunter. Hot Springs is probably my top favorite, but all three are really good. Pale Horse Coming is dark though.

I will say that I liked G-Man a lot, though the picture it paints of Earl's father is a bleak one.

Lester Polfus
12-23-2018, 12:26 AM
It doesn't feature any Swaggers but Dirty White Boys is one hell of a read. I've Marked up and annotated a half dozen books in a study of how to write and this is one of them.

HCM
12-23-2018, 02:35 AM
It doesn't feature any Swaggers but Dirty White Boys is one hell of a read. I've Marked up and annotated a half dozen books in a study of how to write and this is one of them.

Dirty White Boys is my favorite of Hunters novels and I’ve read half a dozen or so of them.

Chemsoldier
12-23-2018, 10:11 AM
Point of Impact and Dirty White Boys were great novels period.

Most of the others were quite readable, though not as good. But after scars from contemporary novels featuring double barrel pump shotguns and revolver safeties I am totally good with popcorn novels that at least have accurate gun stuff. I guess what i am saying is that if you have a need for a novel vice a non-fiction book, you could do worse than most of Hunter's work.

Oh and for non-fiction, his "American Gunfight" was a good read. Its amazing how little the Blair House shootout effected American LE. Its lessons pop out at you no less than Newhall or the Miami-Dade shootout but it doesnt seem to have influenced the LE world much at the time.

Darth_Uno
12-23-2018, 10:39 AM
It doesn't feature any Swaggers....

Actually...[emoji2960]


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