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bac1023
11-24-2018, 06:37 PM
I picked up one of these earlier this year. The gun is extremely impressive in every way. In short, the BRNO is heavily based on the tried and true CZ design from the mid 1970’s. However, it is modified to handle a much more powerful cartridge, producing 900+ft/lbs of energy. The heavy recoil spring, along with a 5oz weight is positioned well below the barrel to keep the recoil impulse low and lessen muzzle rise. The design is SAO, with no ambidextrous controls whatsoever.

Opening up the very sturdy case and you will find the gun, two 16 round magazines, an extra (heavier) recoil spring, an extra set of sights (3-dot), and a very nice full color owner’s manual. As you can imagine, everything is packaged extremely well. Even the cardboard outer case seems well done. The case is also serial numbered to the gun, which is a nice touch. The FK ships with a box of ammo.

As for the pistol itself, I must say that I’m quite highly impressed in every way. Build quality appears impeccable. The refinement and fit and finish is top notch. There isn’t a machine mark anywhere on the gun inside or out. As one could expect from the price, all parts are machined from solid billet steel, much like say an old Sig P210. The entire pistol has a “melted” appearance and everything is nicely rounded without a hint of a sharp edge to be found anywhere. The aluminum G10 grips are like artwork and also fit the pistol incredibly well. The finish is called "dark gray nitration'. I’m not exactly sure what that means, but it looks flawlessly beautiful and is supposedly very durable as well. It looks not unlike a really nice bluing from years past. It’s really impressive. Even the roll marks are done with the utmost care and precision. The slide rides inside the frame like its on ball bearings and it locks up extremely tight, which is not surprising considering the pistol’s accuracy prowess. The slide release is extended and easy to operate. The thumb safety is perfectly weighted with a very positive feel. The beavertail completes the FK’s outstanding ergonomics. The front of the trigger guard and the front strap are both finely serrated. The bottom of the grip frame is flared into a small magwell.

The standard rear sight is called a butterfly, which is very different from anything else I own (see picture). The front sight is a super small red dot. It was designed small to not block targets 200 yards away. As mentioned above, it also ships with a set of 3-dots. The gun’s heft is readily apparent as soon as you pick it up. It weighs 51oz empty, making it one of my heaviest semi autos. Between the large size, the muzzle weight, and its all-steel construction, that’s to be expected. This is welcome for me because I love heavy pistols at the range.

The trigger is good, but not great. The weight is only 3lbs, but there is a slight bit of creep after the take up, which I found disappointing. That being said, the FK wasn’t designed with target shooting as its main objective. Its meant for use in the field. I personally don’t quite get that, but it is what it is. My only other minor complaint is that the serrations on the front strap are so fine that it almost feels smooth. Coupling that with the slick finish and I’d imagine it can be hard to get good traction with sweaty hands. I will say that the serrations are so nicely done that I can get over it.

The proprietary 7.5 FK round is a scorcher. The 95 grain bullet has been chronographed at almost 2100fps. When zeroed at 100 yards, bullet drop is minimal at 200, so it’s a very flat shooting cartridge. Watching some YouTube videos of people testing the round is very entertaining. The performance is incredible and it hits like a ton of bricks. FK will be coming out with some different loadings in the future, but there is only one at this time. At $1.50 per round, it isn’t cheap either. While it looks a lot like the 7.62 Tokarev round in size and shape, it is much, much hotter (as in about double the energy).

My first range session was brief, but the pistol definitely lived up to my expectations. The round is HOT. Saying it produces 900+ ft/lbs of energy doesn’t begin to describe the way it feels to shoot it. The sound and muzzle blast are really awe-inspiring, for the lack of a better term. Recoil itself is not bad, due to the gun’s weight. However, you definitely know you aren’t shooting a typical service caliber either. The power of the round is immediately evident with each trigger pull and the speed at which it hits the dirt berm at 25 yards is instantaneous.

The gun feels extremely solid under fire. Nothing moves, other than the glass-like slide, which you can’t even feel. There is no noise and no rattle whatsoever.

Upon fieldstripping the gun to clean it, it’s quite evident that this is no CZ or Tanfo. The slide glides inside the frame as smooth as a Sig P210. The attention to detail inside and outside of the entire package is breathtaking. Hell, even the rounds are beautiful to look at between the flawless brass and the high quality bullets.

I do have one MAJOR shooting complaint. The butterfly rear sight just flat out doesn’t work for me. I have since switched it out in favor of the included two dot rear sight. After doing so, my second range trip felt much more natural.

Other than that, I have nothing bad to say. This pistol feels world class in every way. It’s the real deal. To me, between the immense quality and capability of the gun, coupled with the amazing 7.5FK round, the package is worth the price. It’s unlike anything I’ve shot before and I've shot a lot of very cool handguns. :)

At any rate, that’s enough babbling. Have any of you had the pleasure of shooting one of these yet? I understand BRNO wants to build 1000 of the Field Pistols and then possibly move on to a 5” model in both steel and polymer. Whether or not that’s true, I’m not sure. Perhaps the 5” models will be a bit more affordable (especially the polymer) if and when they do appear in the USA. I believe BRNO is also working on a 10mm conversion barrel, which I will immediately scoop up.

Please enjoy the pictures. I tried my best to capture the FK's craftsmanship with my camera, but pics don't do it justice.

Thanks for reading!


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Duke
11-24-2018, 06:52 PM
Legit.

Makes me wanna aiwb that über hammer.

Bucky
11-24-2018, 07:05 PM
Attention to detail on that is stunning.

MattyD380
11-24-2018, 07:16 PM
Thanks for letting us live vicariously through your trigger finger. I'm certainly not in the market... but it'd be sweet if I was. It's a fascinating piece of engineering and expression of fine craftsmanship. I'd love to shoot one someday. Even hold one.

I wonder if they'll make other guns? Like... high-end, but less than a Volkswagen.

okie john
11-24-2018, 08:13 PM
I've thumped a fair amount of game with handguns and I'm firmly in the large, heavy bullet camp.

But it's always nice to see something built so well.


Okie John

Dismas316
11-24-2018, 08:18 PM
Wow what a beauty. That looks like it would be fun to shoot. What a cool pistol. Thanks for sharing your impressions.

TicTacticalTimmy
11-24-2018, 08:53 PM
I find this gun an extremely interesting concept.

If they come out with a version that has a pic rail, some way to mount a red dot, for around 1/3 the price I'll probably have to scoop one up.

As is the price takes it out of reach for peasants like myself but I'm glad to see you enjoying it!

What is the bullet diameter? I'm hoping its .308 for easy reloading and not some weird Euro diameter

UpDok
11-24-2018, 10:04 PM
Looks like a clever concept and interesting pistol with high velocity ammo. Is FK Brno associated with the Czech arms factory; Zbrojovka Brno?

When I saw the name "FK BRNO" it reminded me of the name of the designer of the CZ 75 pistol, František Koucký. Is "FK" an abbreviation for Mr. Koucky?

YVK
11-24-2018, 10:43 PM
I read your report on SIG forum. Certainly an unusual and unique gun, quite possible future collectable. Enjoy it.

GuanoLoco
11-24-2018, 11:18 PM
Completely new to me. Butterfly sight looks like a gussied up ghost sight.

Not sure what its purpose is, but it is cool and gorgeous.

einherjarvalk
11-24-2018, 11:39 PM
Good lord, that is stunning. Thanks for sharing, and do let us know if whatever supervillain you work for opens up some new positions. He certainly seems to pay well.

Robert Mitchum
11-25-2018, 12:00 AM
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Nice pistol ! by any chance do also have a massive amount of Fantastic 1911's ?

1slow
11-25-2018, 12:08 AM
I wondered if this could turn pistol ballistics on it's head by turning stretch cavity into torn cavity.

Probably silly but my ideal would be to get rifle damage in a controllable sidearm. I had looked at 9 x 25 Dillon but the logistics were daunting and the results theoretical.

bac1023
11-25-2018, 12:09 AM
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Nice pistol ! by any chance do also have a massive amount of Fantastic 1911's ?

Thanks

Yeah I've got a few :o

ArgentFix
11-25-2018, 12:19 AM
Beautiful. Thank you.

WilsonCombatRep
11-25-2018, 08:19 AM
VERY cool gun...BUT..you can accomplish the same ballistic goals a lot easier with a 9x25 Dillon..IMO, and its loaded by multiple manufacturers..

http://www.doubletapammo.net/index.php?route=product/category&path=303_372

RevolverRob
11-25-2018, 11:02 AM
That's a beautiful gun. I actually wish they'd just build that gun in 9x19 and call it a day. Such a beautifully executed and weighty 9mm handgun would be a pleasure to shoot and may give the 210 a run for its money as the best shooting 9mm handgun in the world.

ralph
11-25-2018, 12:41 PM
While it may not be one, that thing has CZ written all over it, IMO. Would like to see some pics of the ammo, and, as was asked what is the bullet diameter?

ralph
11-25-2018, 12:45 PM
That's a beautiful gun. I actually wish they'd just build that gun in 9x19 and call it a day. Such a beautifully executed and weighty 9mm handgun would be a pleasure to shoot and may give the 210 a run for its money as the best shooting 9mm handgun in the world.

Well, there's always the Shadow2, and the Tactical Soprt Orange..I got to shoot a Orange last week...it's wonderful, would probably scratch that itch for a low recoiling tackdriver... Owner had the trigger set down to about a pound an a half..

Jim Watson
11-25-2018, 01:01 PM
It's in the new American Rifleman but I don't recall a value for actual caliber/bullet diameter. They plug it almost as well as BAC. Lots nicer than the Rem-POs in the same issue. Except for the silly "butterfly" sight, they couldn't hit anything with it either.

I think American Wildcatters could reasonably look into a .30 Dillon, 7.62x10mm. Plenty of guns of suitable action length, 1911, G20, Tanfoglio. And those are just the ones with tooled up barrel makers.

bac1023
11-25-2018, 01:17 PM
While it may not be one, that thing has CZ written all over it, IMO. Would like to see some pics of the ammo, and, as was asked what is the bullet diameter?

Well like I said in the review, it utilizes the basic design of the CZ, with some alterations. Much higher quality build though and I love CZ’s. Own several of them.

RevolverRob
11-25-2018, 02:27 PM
Well, there's always the Shadow2, and the Tactical Soprt Orange..I got to shoot a Orange last week...it's wonderful, would probably scratch that itch for a low recoiling tackdriver... Owner had the trigger set down to about a pound an a half..

I mean, I have several guns that can scratch this itch already. And I've got my eye on several more, including either a CZ TS or TSO, an STI DVC Omni, and a Smith 952.

But the STI, CZs, and Smiths are still mass produced guns at the end of the day. Compared to the execution and hand fitting of something like the FK in the OP or a Swiss-made Sig P210, it just isn't the same. I'm afraid a good buddy ruined me for life for handgun quality, when one of the first handguns I ever shot in this high-end realm was a Sig P210 tuned by Novak's. Nothing is really the same after that.

bac1023
11-25-2018, 03:41 PM
I mean, I have several guns that can scratch this itch already. And I've got my eye on several more, including either a CZ TS or TSO, an STI DVC Omni, and a Smith 952.

But the STI, CZs, and Smiths are still mass produced guns at the end of the day. Compared to the execution and hand fitting of something like the FK in the OP or a Swiss-made Sig P210, it just isn't the same. I'm afraid a good buddy ruined me for life for handgun quality, when one of the first handguns I ever shot in this high-end realm was a Sig P210 tuned by Novak's. Nothing is really the same after that.


Bob, It sounds like you know good pistols. Which do you own?

I agree with you on the CZ and STI. However, the 952 was never a mass produced pistol. In fact, they are fairly rare and bring some big money these days, especially because it hasn't been built in nearly 10 years now. They had a good deal of hand fitting in the old Performance Center.

I agree with you on the Swiss made P210. They are treasures. Here are some of mine with the BRNO, showing the size of it.


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The 952 and the more rare and even more accurate PPC9 are every bit as accurate as a Swiss P210.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/MJhqac.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poMJhqacj)





If you want a super accurate 9mm, the German Sig Sauer Mastershop built some great examples, such as these two P226 X-Fives and P226 Sport.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/7I20nF.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pm7I20nFj)

bac1023
11-25-2018, 03:57 PM
It's in the new American Rifleman but I don't recall a value for actual caliber/bullet diameter. They plug it almost as well as BAC. Lots nicer than the Rem-POs in the same issue. Except for the silly "butterfly" sight, they couldn't hit anything with it either.

I think American Wildcatters could reasonably look into a .30 Dillon, 7.62x10mm. Plenty of guns of suitable action length, 1911, G20, Tanfoglio. And those are just the ones with tooled up barrel makers.Jim, they just refer to it as 7.5x27mm.

I know it operates at over 50,000PSI, so very high pressures.

Jim Watson
11-25-2018, 09:34 PM
I know what they CALL it but is 7.5mm a real dimension or just a number that has not been used in a while?

bac1023
11-25-2018, 10:05 PM
I know what they CALL it but is 7.5mm a real dimension or just a number that has not been used in a while?

I haven’t seen anything on its exact diameter yet.

GuanoLoco
11-26-2018, 01:38 AM
Well, there's always the Shadow2, and the Tactical Soprt Orange..I got to shoot a Orange last week...it's wonderful, would probably scratch that itch for a low recoiling tackdriver... Owner had the trigger set down to about a pound an a half..

I got to shoot a TSO in 9mm recently. SA Trigger was super light, reset was super short, and it was way too easier to hot what I was aiming at. I’m a USPSA Production dude but I’d be lying if I waid that Limited Minor (an inherently disadvantaged division relative to Lim Major) didn’t cross my mind. It sure looks sexy relative to Production though!

Duelist
11-26-2018, 03:08 AM
I know what they CALL it but is 7.5mm a real dimension or just a number that has not been used in a while?

The 7.5x55 Swiss rifle cartridge loads with standard .30cal/7.62mm bullets. So, could be that it is like that. Or not.

Jim Watson
11-26-2018, 07:11 AM
I haven’t seen anything on its exact diameter yet.

Could you mike one just ahead of the case mouth so you don't waste an expensive shot determining a ball park number?



The 7.5x55 Swiss rifle cartridge loads with standard .30cal/7.62mm bullets. So, could be that it is like that. Or not.

Early 7.5 Swiss was .304".

I'm guessing 7.5 is just advertising and is actually in the typical Euro oversize .30 of .309" to .312" but they didn't want to confuse it will the various 7.62 and 7.65 calibers.

falar
11-27-2018, 01:56 PM
Bob, It sounds like you know good pistols. Which do you own?

I agree with you on the CZ and STI. However, the 952 was never a mass produced pistol. In fact, they are fairly rare and bring some big money these days, especially because it hasn't been built in nearly 10 years now. They had a good deal of hand fitting in the old Performance Center.

I agree with you on the Swiss made P210. They are treasures. Here are some of mine with the BRNO, showing the size of it.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/dcqreA.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmdcqreAj)




The 952 and the more rare and even more accurate PPC9 are every bit as accurate as a Swiss P210.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/MJhqac.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poMJhqacj)





If you want a super accurate 9mm, the German Sig Sauer Mastershop built some great examples, such as these two P226 X-Fives and P226 Sport.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/7I20nF.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pm7I20nFj)

Love those P210s and Mastershop guns.

The FK BRNO sure is an interesting piece. It is like the big brother to 5.7x28, in the same way that 7.62 NATO is to 5.56 NATO.

bac1023
11-27-2018, 04:21 PM
VERY cool gun...BUT..you can accomplish the same ballistic goals a lot easier with a 9x25 Dillon..IMO, and its loaded by multiple manufacturers..

http://www.doubletapammo.net/index.php?route=product/category&path=303_372

That's very true.

However, I bought the gun for the gun, not so much the ballistics. In fact, a 10mm conversion barrel is supposed to be in development. If and when it becomes available, I will have one.

JHC
11-27-2018, 04:53 PM
I wondered if this could turn pistol ballistics on it's head by turning stretch cavity into torn cavity.

Probably silly but my ideal would be to get rifle damage in a controllable sidearm. I had looked at 9 x 25 Dillon but the logistics were daunting and the results theoretical.

Absolutely it would.

bac1023 any chance you'll hunt with it? I've seen a video of it dropping a big deer/stag.

WilsonCombatRep
11-27-2018, 05:54 PM
That's very true.

However, I bought the gun for the gun, not so much the ballistics. In fact, a 10mm conversion barrel is supposed to be in development. If and when it becomes available, I will have one.

I get that 100%. I just have been surprised that the various media outlets that have covered this gun haven't mentioned this fact?


I think its an amazing pistol that will be an heirloom in the future.

bac1023
11-27-2018, 07:23 PM
Absolutely it would.

bac1023 any chance you'll hunt with it? I've seen a video of it dropping a big deer/stag.

I don’t hunt, but the round has a lot of potential. It causes a ton of damage on target.

ralph
11-28-2018, 10:48 AM
I got to shoot a TSO in 9mm recently. SA Trigger was super light, reset was super short, and it was way too easier to hot what I was aiming at. I’m a USPSA Production dude but I’d be lying if I waid that Limited Minor (an inherently disadvantaged division relative to Lim Major) didn’t cross my mind. It sure looks sexy relative to Production though!

I don't compete (I'd like to, but there's no place to do it within a reasonable driving distance, as I live in the sticks) anyway, I also found it was very easy to make hits with,the owner had the trigger adjusted a little light for my tastes (about a pound an a half) but, I was impressed..Very nice shooting pistol, sadly, a bit out of my price range..

JonInWA
11-28-2018, 01:31 PM
bac1023, that's a magnificent pistol. And exceptional images. Thanks for sharing.

Best, Jon