Lets see your 10mm pistols !

[Buckeye63]

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I have two Glock 29 & Glock 20 SF

My carry ammo is Underwood 180gr GD or UW 200gr XTP .

[Screwball]

S&W 1006...

https://i.imgur.com/yH0IhCw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TomaMG9.jpg

Converted to decock only... slide milled for the TSW cut. Second picture shows an extended slide release, which I had made by a member on S&W Forum. And obviously... an FBI 15 round magazine.

No carry ammo, as I don’t currently carry it. Depending on the wildlife situation when I move to Maine, it might be put into that use.

One of those guns I won’t sell. Not because of it being so special to me, like my S&W 629-1 (my father gave me), but because I’ll never find another in as good of condition and for the price I paid. Was a few years back, but even had the guy who sold it to me ask to buy it back.

[Bucky]

I need to add a 10mm to my stable. :(

[Blades]

My daily carry:
https://i.imgur.com/KSBSY74.jpg

[GardoneVT]

I’ll take a moment to pose a question for those who EDC a 10mm; what drills have you run using the full power carry ammo?

[OlongJohnson]

For current production, are there any credible choices other than the Glocks, P220, and mid- to high-end 1911s?

Here's my impression:
Glock 20: The cheapest, holds the most rounds. Low round count examples readily available even cheaper on GunBroker. Feels like grabbing a 2x4, even with XXXL hands. Possibly a good technical solution for a self-rescue device to haul around outdoors.

P220: Mid-price, includes all that's good about the P220. Vastly superior ergonomically to the G20. Steel frame is kinda heavy. Was redesigned to strengthen it for 10mm when production moved to the US. Holds fewer rounds, may have some reliability issues or need some tuning to run well with some ammo. Takedown lever shaft might have shortened life due to 10mm and steel frame inertia (amplifying what's observed with the P220 in high round count .45s). Available in finishes ranging from low-end BBQ gun to dirty camo.

1911s: People buy them because reasons.

Revolvers: People buy them because reasons.

Personally, my choice is .357M or .45 Super for any mission where 10mm looks like a good option, but that probably has more to do with what guns are available and what factory ammo is around than the cartridges themselves. A .41 or lighter-loaded .44 Magnum would also be excellent. But that's just me, and I'm not you.

[gringop]

I don't EDC a 10mm but I have run various drills, including the FAST, with my normal G-19 and my G-20. The only things that changed are the splits. Where a normal "Guarantee a hit on 8" at 7 yards" split may be a .25-.30 on a 9mm, the 10mm was .45-.50. I have no doubt that with a good deal of practice I could lower that time but never to 9mm levels.

For draws, the G-20 is physically bigger but no different than other Glocks, until the shot, when the greater recoil is evident.

I did not test transitions to a different target, I may make that one of my drills in the upcoming holiday practice time.

In my case, the ammo was a handloaded 180gr JHP at 1116 fps.

Gringop

[Bucky]

For current production, are there any credible choices other than the Glocks, P220, and mid- to high-end 1911s?


Springfield XDm

https://www.springfield-armory.com/xdm-10mm-features/

[fly out]

For current production, are there any credible choices other than the Glocks, P220, and mid- to high-end 1911s?



Grand Power P40 10mm.

I don't have their 10mm but I have a few 9mm Grand Powers and I like them quite a lot. If I was looking for a 10mm today, I'd be looking at the GP or a Dan Wesson.

[PNWTO]

Springfield XDm

https://www.springfield-armory.com/xdm-10mm-features/

I don’t know if I would call that option credible, now or in the future.

[Buckeye63]

For current production, are there any credible choices other than the Glocks, P220, and mid- to high-end 1911s?

Here's my impression:
Glock 20: The cheapest, holds the most rounds. Low round count examples readily available even cheaper on GunBroker. Feels like grabbing a 2x4, even with XXXL hands. Possibly a good technical solution for a self-rescue device to haul around outdoors.

P220: Mid-price, includes all that's good about the P220. Vastly superior ergonomically to the G20. Steel frame is kinda heavy. Was redesigned to strengthen it for 10mm when production moved to the US. Holds fewer rounds, may have some reliability issues or need some tuning to run well with some ammo. Takedown lever shaft might have shortened life due to 10mm and steel frame inertia (amplifying what's observed with the P220 in high round count .45s). Available in finishes ranging from low-end BBQ gun to dirty camo.

1911s: People buy them because reasons.

Revolvers: People buy them because reasons.

Personally, my choice is .357M or .45 Super for any mission where 10mm looks like a good option, but that probably has more to do with what guns are available and what factory ammo is around than the cartridges themselves. A .41 or lighter-loaded .44 Magnum would also be excellent. But that's just me, and I'm not you.

The 45 Super is a great round ... With fullpower loads with my 20 & 29 I use 22# RSA ...
I have owned Glocks for 25 years now .. Grip angle is perfect for me now ( not at first ) I own 12 Glocks ... Im sorta use to them .... Glock 20's and 29's are better price options VS 10mm 1911's and some other steel framed options ....
The polymer frame not only makes it lighter but also dampens tbe recoil... Or it seems that way when I fire my buddies RIA 10mm .. I would be hesitant about running a steady diet of UW 10mm through any semiauto without having a stouter RSA ....

I have a 21 C and I have ran a few hundred rounds of 45 Super through it , with a 20# RSA ...and quite of bit of +P
My carry load for my 21C is UW 230gr +P with Nolser JHP
My 30S & 36 is standard pressure 230gr Remington Golden Sabers
You mentioned a 357M , im thinking you are referring to the 357 magnum, which is another fine round !!!
I carry a Ruger Security Six 4 inch barrel on occasion .. When I used to carry in the woods or trail I carried UW 357mag 158gr Gold dot ... and in my LCR357 for social work I carry Hornady 125gr FTX
For woods carry I carry my Glock 20 with UW 200gr XTP

My Glock 32 has taken over for my Security Six for SD carry .. My carry ammo for my 32 is Underwood 125gr Gold dot ..Higher capacity lighter weight and pretty much memics the "one shot drop " of the 125gr 357 magnum..

They are alot of options in the Glock line up , or at least with mine ... My 27 is my EDC loaded with 180gr HST

[Screwball]

Personally, my choice is .357M or .45 Super for any mission where 10mm looks like a good option, but that probably has more to do with what guns are available and what factory ammo is around than the cartridges themselves.

.45 Super is one of those cartridges that I ultimately want to mess around with. I don’t plan on only shooting them, but want to see how they function in my D/I .45 AR. Rudy, at Macon Armory (built the upper), said it would be good to go. But no real interest in running Supers in my Glock 30S (maybe s***s and giggles).

In regards to the P220 in 10mm... it always struck me odd that SIG hasn’t looked at offering a 10mm P227. Don’t know what that would equate to in terms of firepower, but would love to see a 10mm version of that 14 round P227 magazine.

[Lester Polfus]

I’ll take a moment to pose a question for those who EDC a 10mm; what drills have you run using the full power carry ammo?

I've run all the same drills I have with my Glock 19: FAST, Bill Drill, 5x5, walk back drill, dot torture, etc, with the addition of more work at the 50yd and 100yd line. My experiences mirror those of gringop when running a FAST drill, my splits on the 9" circle tend to run in the .22 to .25 second range, but with a Glock 20, they run in the .40 to .45 range. This is with a 200 grain XTP going 1140fps.

I "EDC" a Glock 20 in the sense that I live on the border of a National Forest, and have for years used it in the "field pistol" role when out woodsbumming, boondocking, scouting, hunting, hiking, and backpacking. Essentially I'm using an autoloader in the role that has traditionally been the domain of a magnum revolver.

I've often said that the 10mm is the right solution for a small number of problems, and the wrong one for everything else. I feel that it is a solution for the "field pistol" problem, but if I were starting with zero guns, I'd be sorely tempted to just go buy a USP 45 for that role as GJM has done.

My EDC for urban/suburban environments is still a Glock 19.

I'd post a picture of my Glock 20, but if you've seen one G20 with a TLR and some finish wear, you've seen them all.

[GardoneVT]

.45 Super is one of those cartridges that I ultimately want to mess around with. I don’t plan on only shooting them, but want to see how they function in my D/I .45 AR. Rudy, at Macon Armory (built the upper), said it would be good to go. But no real interest in running Supers in my Glock 30S (maybe s***s and giggles).

In regards to the P220 in 10mm... it always struck me odd that SIG hasn’t looked at offering a 10mm P227. Don’t know what that would equate to in terms of firepower, but would love to see a 10mm version of that 14 round P227 magazine.

Given Sigs QC issues of late- and the fact the P227 has issues - I’d view a Springfield 10mm as a better option then a P220.

I ask as years back I carried a 10mm. Serious drills with full power ammo resulted in excessive wear on the pistol -A Tanfoglio 10mm- and performance degradation compared to 9mm in my hands. Not living near woods or a machine shop, I ditched the 10mm as a carry round.That said, I have a Delta Elite for those times I just want to shoot the loudest 20 round box of handgun rounds in the store.

[Lester Polfus]

Given Sigs QC issues of late- and the fact the P227 has issues - I’d view a Springfield 10mm as a better option then a P220.

I ask as years back I carried a 10mm. Serious drills with full power ammo resulted in excessive wear on the pistol -A Tanfoglio 10mm- and performance degradation compared to 9mm in my hands. Not living near woods or a machine shop, I ditched the 10mm as a carry round.That said, I have a Delta Elite for those times I just want to shoot the loudest 20 round box of handgun rounds in the store.

Circa 1999 I bought a Tanfoglio as a poor man's Bren Ten. The only thing they did when they upsized those guns from 9mm was make all the appropriate orifices bigger. Same locking lug geometry, same recoil spring weight, same mainspring weight. Mine beat itself to death in short order and cracked the frame.

A friend bought some 135 grain 10mm projectiles by accident and gave them to me. I loaded them over a really healthy charge of Blue Dot. It was fun to go to an indoor range, pull out a rather plebian looking Glock, and get a WTF? moment from everyone at the fire ball and blast from the first round.

[Bucky]

I don’t know if I would call that option credible, now or in the future.

Why? Are they hard to find, or do you not like the platform? My XD .40 has been a great pistol.

[Gun Mutt]

Grand Power P40 10mm.
I don't have their 10mm but I have a few 9mm Grand Powers and I like them quite a lot. If I was looking for a 10mm today, I'd be looking at the GP or a Dan Wesson.
Well I never...

And now, here's Rob Pincus to tell you all about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCiiteuQQls

[GardoneVT]

Circa 1999 I bought a Tanfoglio as a poor man's Bren Ten. The only thing they did when they upsized those guns from 9mm was make all the appropriate orifices bigger. Same locking lug geometry, same recoil spring weight, same mainspring weight. Mine beat itself to death in short order and cracked the frame.


So....poor mans Bren Ten. 😂

[Lester Polfus]

So....poor mans Bren Ten. 😂

At least it came with a magazine...

[cigardad]

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[theJanitor]

Thanks for opening up this wound.:cool: Garthwaite built Delta Elite. Lost this in a theft.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3830/9422201133_6c007f995a_c.jpg

[Robinson]

I like cool gun pictures, but since this thread was started in the Pistol section instead of the Gallery I'd like to thank those of you who steered it in a more technical direction. That's not sarcasm.

[Bigghoss]

Why? Are they hard to find, or do you not like the platform? My XD .40 has been a great pistol.

XD's in general don't have a great reputation. There's a couple XD threads that go into more detail, just do a search if you want to know more so we don't inadvertently turn this into an XD discussion thread.

[Clusterfrack]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181119/c43d79a72fd789a12d104465efde9c11.jpg

[theJanitor]

10mm works well in the 1911, because the OAL is very close to the 45ACP. I didn't want to beat up a very nice custom, so I went with the 155XTP load from Hornady, and Garthwaite said that 18.5# springs and wilson mags work fine.

[Rock185]

Beginning with an early Bren Ten back around '84, I've had a succession of 10mm pistols and revolvers. I've managed to hang on to one of my favorites, a S&W 1026, for several years now.

[5pins]

Here is my fraken “Colt” 10mm. Delta Elite upper with a bunch of odds and ends 1911 parts on an 80% frame.

https://i.imgur.com/D4GQjLyl.jpg?1

[GardoneVT]

Thanks for opening up this wound.:cool: Garthwaite built Delta Elite. Lost this in a theft.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3830/9422201133_6c007f995a_c.jpg

My condolences.

Was it a home/business robbery, or stolen in some other circumstance?

[Balisong]

Beginning with an early Bren Ten back around '84, I've had a succession of 10mm pistols and revolvers. I've managed to hang on to one of my favorites, a S&W 1026, for several years now.

Is that a Sig style decocker? Never seen that on a S&W

[Screwball]

Is that a Sig style decocker? Never seen that on a S&W

Was also the standard for the FBI 10mm S&Ws... just a shorter slide/barrel (1076).

I’ve always wanted to try one, but from what I heard, they weren’t the greatest. Definitely not like a SIG in anything but style.

[Rock185]

Balisong, Yes, like a SIG. I've owned a couple 1076s, and had one other 1026 with the SIG type decockers. Never an issue with any of them. There was also the 4526 .45 and 5926 9MM with the SIG type decockers. There may be other S&Ws with the frame mounted decockers, but these are the ones I'm aware of.

[JR1572]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181120/2139cd4a3accfa9e122e5d6a343c1045.jpg

[Balisong]

Was also the standard for the FBI 10mm S&Ws... just a shorter slide/barrel (1076).

I’ve always wanted to try one, but from what I heard, they weren’t the greatest. Definitely not like a SIG in anything but style.

Jeez my mind is kind of blown right now. I knew the 1076 was the FBI 10mm, but somehow it always escaped my knowledge that they had Sig style decockers. And I never had a clue that there were other models with them as well. I've seen more Smifs than I can count, but somehow NEVER saw one like that in 20+ years of being around guns and reading about them. Quite the mind job, but thanks for the info.

[El Cid]

Glock 40.

https://i.imgur.com/U6eD5Iq_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

https://i.imgur.com/aoPtXNB_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[cigardad]

Delta by Don Williams

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[OlongJohnson]

Jeez my mind is kind of blown right now. I knew the 1076 was the FBI 10mm, but somehow it always escaped my knowledge that they had Sig style decockers. And I never had a clue that there were other models with them as well. I've seen more Smifs than I can count, but somehow NEVER saw one like that in 20+ years of being around guns and reading about them. Quite the mind job, but thanks for the info.

Due to my appreciation of Sigs, I searched on the frame-mounted decockers when I did my initial deep dive on the Smiffs. Found quite a few reports of them being rather fragile. Kind of an instance of another cog squeezed into the box of sprockets, versus the few simple parts doing their elegant dance in the Sigs.

[Buckeye63]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181120/2139cd4a3accfa9e122e5d6a343c1045.jpg

I have a 21C in the same configuration, no rail , some people refer to Gen 2.5

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[11B10]

.45 Super is one of those cartridges that I ultimately want to mess around with. I don’t plan on only shooting them, but want to see how they function in my D/I .45 AR. Rudy, at Macon Armory (built the upper), said it would be good to go. But no real interest in running Supers in my Glock 30S (maybe s***s and giggles).

In regards to the P220 in 10mm... it always struck me odd that SIG hasn’t looked at offering a 10mm P227. Don’t know what that would equate to in terms of firepower, but would love to see a 10mm version of that 14 round P227 magazine.



As a fellow G30S owner (my third one), may I ask why you "have no interest in running Supers (in it)?" My ammo choices are very boring, hence the question.

[Screwball]

As a fellow G30S owner (my third one), may I ask why you "have no interest in running Supers (in it)?" My ammo choices are very boring, hence the question.

Cost...

I run 230 grain Gold Dots. Does exactly what I want it to, so no desire to get stronger springs/barrel to run it.

My AR... the guy who built it gave me the go-ahead to run Supers. Followed it up with if there was an issue, he would warranty it. Can’t argue that.

[11B10]

Cost...

I run 230 grain Gold Dots. Does exactly what I want it to, so no desire to get stronger springs/barrel to run it.

My AR... the guy who built it gave me the go-ahead to run Supers. Followed it up with if there was an issue, he would warranty it. Can’t argue that.



Thanks for the quick response - sounds like you've got things covered.

[HCM]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181119/c43d79a72fd789a12d104465efde9c11.jpg

What Jydex is that with the thumb break ?

[Clusterfrack]

What Jydex is that with the thumb break ?

Custom Raven.

[HCM]

Custom Raven.

Wow. They havent done those in years.

[GJM]

Here is my “10mm.”

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[MickAK]

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[Chuck Whitlock]

Balisong, Yes, like a SIG. I've owned a couple 1076s, and had one other 1026 with the SIG type decockers. Never an issue with any of them. There was also the 4526 .45 and 5926 9MM with the SIG type decockers. There may be other S&Ws with the frame mounted decockers, but these are the ones I'm aware of.


Due to my appreciation of Sigs, I searched on the frame-mounted decockers when I did my initial deep dive on the Smiffs. Found quite a few reports of them being rather fragile. Kind of an instance of another cog squeezed into the box of sprockets, versus the few simple parts doing their elegant dance in the Sigs.

BIA ran 5926s prior to going Glock (before my time). They were disliked and not considered reliable.

[Tamara]

I like 10mm Auto as much as the next kid, but it's mostly nostalgia these days (https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2016/10/26/in-defense-of-the-10-mm/).

I used to CCW a Gen3 Glock 29, and I've owned a Delta Elite and a 3" Model 610, but I've since learned better and these days I just have a couple 10mm Glocks for fun.

The 10mm Glocks are undersprung from the factory IMO and, while that can be fixed with aftermarket parts pretty easily on the full-size G20, not so much on the compact. I can make a factory G29 malfunction pretty much at will with high velocity ammo.

These days I mostly keep a 9x25 Dillon barrel in this Flash Thunderworks "G29L" for giggles.

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[Trigger]

Set up as a hunting pistol. Currently looking for a suitable chest (or other) holster. Quite accurate at 50 yards with the dot sight.

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[Lester Polfus]

I like 10mm Auto as much as the next kid, but it's mostly nostalgia these days (https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2016/10/26/in-defense-of-the-10-mm/).


If anybody tells you I moved to acreage on the border of a National Forest JUST so I could justify my continued involvement with the 10mm Auto cartridge, it is a nasty, filthy, lie.

[Buckeye63]

My daily carry:
https://i.imgur.com/KSBSY74.jpg

Dang nice carry rig !!!
What carry ammo do you use ?

[Oldherkpilot]

I see this thread is pretty quiet but I snagged a good one today and am back in the 10mm business.

[Trooper224]

I see this thread is pretty quiet but I snagged a good one today and am back in the 10mm business.

You suck.

[Oldherkpilot]

You suck.

I suppose I deserved that.😁

[farscott]

This one is on its way to me. Yost-Bonitz Delta Elite.

[19852+]

This one is on its way to me. Yost-Bonitz Delta Elite.

Very nice, understated the way I like it.

[Oldherkpilot]

You suck.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/893332945

This should sort you out!

[Trooper224]

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/893332945

This should sort you out!

I've wanted a 1006 since 1990. But with a starting bid of $1200, I'll keep wanting.

[Oldherkpilot]

I've wanted a 1006 since 1990. But with a starting bid of $1200, I'll keep wanting.

Have you already allocated your next stimulus check? I can't think of a better investment!

[Suvorov]

It’s been seven before but anyway -

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I see this thread is pretty quiet but I snagged a good one today and am back in the 10mm business.

Congratulations! Let me know if you need your grips back.

[Oldherkpilot]

It’s been seven before but anyway -

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Congratulations! Let me know if you need your grips back.

Hah! Thanks, but they're yours now. I may actually like this full sized version better than my 1066s.

[Trooper224]

Have you already allocated your next stimulus check? I can't think of a better investment!

I'm fairly certain Mrs. Awesome has.:)

[MattyD380]

I heard something about CZ making a production 97 in 10mm. Anyone hear or know anything about this?

I guess there was a custom shop 10mm 97... but, allegedly, this is gonna be a "regular" CZ.

[Oldherkpilot]

I heard something about CZ making a production 97 in 10mm. Anyone hear or know anything about this?

I guess there was a custom shop 10mm 97... but, allegedly, this is gonna be a "regular" CZ.

Yes, its true about the 97. They are making a conversion kit and I understand that the custom shop is selling the 97 fitted up as a 10mm. I hadn't heard they are going to make it a regular SKU, that would be great. I was planning on the 97 option before I lucked into a 1006.

[ECVMatt]

Here is my Gen 3 Glock 20. It is a great gun that has been to Alaska with me and has riden many miles along the Red River hunting swine. Many hogs have met their match at the hands of my Glock 20 and a good pack of dogs. It is one of my favorite "Going Wandering" guns.

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