Ruger Custom Shop 1911

[Tokarev]

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2018/10/14/first-ruger-custom-shop-gun-sr1911-competition-pistol/

Something like this was bound to hit the market sooner or later. MSRP is high but they should be quite a bit less at actual street price.

Will a 45 version be along soon?

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[FNFAN]

Setting aside the virtues of the machinery it's nice they're gathering input from a top notch competitor and showing even more interesting in sports shooting.

[DAB]

only two 10 round magazines? ship with 3, so you can compete on day one.

[RevolverRob]

I love me some 1911s, but that MSRP is crack pipe bad. Better hit the street at almost a G less or it'll never sell. Not when you can grab an MIM-free Dan Wesson Pointman 9 for $1400 and a magwell for a 100 bucks.

Too many options in the 1-2k range in 9mm 1911 land to make $2500 really worth it especially when you can pony up another 500 and get into a Wilson or Nighthawk.

[DAB]

Colt's version (9+1) is 1700 MSRP

https://www.colt.com/detail-page/col-gold-cup-trophy-9mm-5-9rd

[Tokarev]

I love me some 1911s, but that MSRP is crack pipe bad. Better hit the street at almost a G less or it'll never sell. Not when you can grab an MIM-free Dan Wesson Pointman 9 for $1400 and a magwell for a 100 bucks.

Too many options in the 1-2k range in 9mm 1911 land to make $2500 really worth it especially when you can pony up another 500 and get into a Wilson or Nighthawk.What's the going price on the SIG Max Michel? That's probably the closest competitor I would think.

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[mmc45414]

Customary barrel bushing...

[Tokarev]

Customary barrel bushing...It needs that to meet rule requirements. Depending on the sport.

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[DAB]

What's the going price on the SIG Max Michel? That's probably the closest competitor I would think.

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sig's 1911 in 9mm runs 1165. 9+1 mags.

https://www.sigsauer.com/store/1911-match-elite-stainless-full-size.html

[Tokarev]

sig's 1911 in 9mm runs 1165. 9+1 mags.

https://www.sigsauer.com/store/1911-match-elite-stainless-full-size.htmlThat's the standard target model. The Max Michel version has a mag well, etc.

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[DAB]

didn't see it on the website.

[DAB]

found it:

https://www.sigsauer.com/store/1911-max-full-size.html

40 or 45 only, no 9mm version.

$1663.

very close in price to the Colt Gold Cup (1699).

[Tokarev]

https://www.sigsauer.com/store/1911-max-full-size.html

40 or 45 only, no 9mm version.

$1663.

Maybe the 9mm was a limited run or something.


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[Tokarev]

Several SIG models on gunbroker currently for $1400.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/785421242

[Robinson]

Colt's new Custom Competition Pistol, which is hand fitted and contains no cast or MIM parts, can be had for around $2300. Perhaps that's what this is meant to compete with, though Colt's offering looks a little more traditional.

I commend Ruger for doing something new though. I didn't even know they had a custom shop.

[bofe954]

Colt's new Custom Competition Pistol, which is hand fitted and contains no cast or MIM parts, can be had for around $2300. Perhaps that's what this is meant to compete with, though Colt's offering looks a little more traditional.

I commend Ruger for doing something new though. I didn't even know they had a custom shop.

Do you have a link to the Colt?


As far as the Ruger, $2500 is too steep. Be interesting to see what it really sells for though. If it was under $1800 I don't think it's that bad of a deal.

For a PM-9 I replace grips, add magwell, replace mag release, safety, trigger and front sight.

Depending on what front sight this has, I maybe would only replace the trigger and mag release. The Koenig hammer and EGW sear trigger kits seem to be well regarded. It may have a better trigger than the PM-9. The high cut under the trigger guard is nice, and not available on the PM-9.

Maybe they'll come out with one without the challenge coin/cloth/case etc that's a little cheaper.

[Jim Watson]

Where do they get this stuff?
"This SR1911... competition barrel features... unique 1:16" slow twist to increase accuracy with lighter weight match bullets."
It isn't unique, it isn't slow, and it does just fine with the heaviest bullet you can get.
What it is, is an embarrassment to the NRA to engage in ignorant flackery.

[HCM]

What's the going price on the SIG Max Michel? That's probably the closest competitor I would think.

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Sub 2k.

[DAB]

Where do they get this stuff?
"This SR1911... competition barrel features... unique 1:16" slow twist to increase accuracy with lighter weight match bullets."
It isn't unique, it isn't slow, and it does just fine with the heaviest bullet you can get.
What it is, is an embarrassment to the NRA to engage in ignorant flackery.

Most expert and master level shooters run heavy bullets. Not light ones. 147 grain and up for 9mm.

[Jim Watson]

I do, even though I am at the bottom of IDPA Expert these days. And my 1:16 barrels shoot well.

But USPSA Open gunners shoot the light bullets whose big powder charges power compensators.
The only active PPC shooter I know uses light bullets in the auto Divisions.
I think they are usual in NRA.
And with really slow twists like 1:32.

But my point is that the author is inexperienced at best. Which is a shame upon the American Rifleman which used to be a moderately technical publication.

[Tokarev]

But my point is that the author is inexperienced at best. Which is a shame upon the American Rifleman which used to be a moderately technical publication.

The American Rifleman piece is more of a detailed press release rather than a review.





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[Robinson]

Do you have a link to the Colt?

Here's one on Gunbroker: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/788212944

[mmc45414]

This might be one of those things they are really are not that interested in selling many of.

[Tokarev]

This might be one of those things they are really are not that interested in selling many of.Yeah. I wonder how many they expect to sell. This might be an interesting shift for Ruger who I'm sure is used to doing things on a maximum volume for maximum profit kind of thing. Not that that's a bad way to run a company it hasn't been their usual modus operandi.

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[Bucky]

only two 10 round magazines? ship with 3, so you can compete on day one.

Depends on what mags it ships with. I’ve had 4 9mm 1911s (still have 2), and I never used the mags they came with, including my Smith that came with Wilson’s.

[mmc45414]

Yeah. I wonder how many they expect to sell.I figure they want Koenig shooting a "Commercial Off The Shelf" product that "anyone" can go into a store and buy. They seem to have sourced a few parts that they typically would build, plugged them in at a profit, and if they build Qty100 and their team takes twenty of them they did what they wanted to, including create some www chatter. I say this is like the L-88 Corvette, they don't really expect people to buy many of them. Keep a watch for a future Distributor Exclusive with many of the same features without the expensive purchased components. But all this is just the internet chatter of a gun nut nobody :)

[Tokarev]

I figure they want Koenig shooting a "Commercial Off The Shelf" product that "anyone" can go into a store and buy. They seem to have sourced a few parts that they typically would build, plugged them in at a profit, and if they build Qty100 and their team takes twenty of them they did what they wanted to, including create some www chatter. I say this is like the L-88 Corvette, they don't really expect people to buy many of them. Keep a watch for a future Distributor Exclusive with many of the same features without the expensive purchased components. But all this is just the internet chatter of a gun nut nobody :)That's probably 100% On Target, right there!

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[bofe954]

These are on gunbroker for $1800.

[Robert Mitchum]

https://youtu.be/exEuR4NVdOQ

[Tokarev]

https://youtu.be/exEuR4NVdOQ

Thanks for linking the video. It helps explain what this pistol is and why.

[bofe954]

I'd like to get my hands on one. It really is the closest thing to my ideal USPSA set up I can get without getting something custom. Add on Ruger's history of actually honoring their warranty and customer service, and I think it's a decent deal.

If it is fit like they describe.

Would just hate to order it in and find out it is just a decorated SR1911 for $1200 more...

My hope is to find a dusty one in a gunshop locally and make an offer.

[Tokarev]

My guess (my hope actually) is Ruger will make a non-logo gun that's more or less the same thing but with a price closer to a Grand. More of a standard gun as opposed to a custom shop item. Hopefully this theoretical pistol with still have the tight fit, chexkering, etc.

I assume a 45 ACP version can't be too far behind since it would be ready to run in CDP and Single Stack.

Maybe we'll see some of this stuff announced at SHOT?

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[theJanitor]

The pistol is likely built well. But LOTS of folk have bought into the idea that you can't get a good 1911 under two grand, so what's a manufacturer to do? Price your pistol over two grand. :cool:

[GunRacer]

Maybe the 9mm was a limited run or something.


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Actually, they are only making them in 9mm and .45 now. The website hasn't been updated. The .40 model was discontinued, which is too bad because it was the right caliber for USPSA SS. Good thing I have two.

[shakazulu12]

I think I would send my money towards Wesson, looks like the Single Stack Classic is back on the menu for now and would be a great single stack platform in 9 or .40

https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/dan-wesson-ssc-factory-9mm.html

[Balisong]

I think I would send my money towards Wesson, looks like the Single Stack Classic is back on the menu for now and would be a great single stack platform in 9 or .40

https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/dan-wesson-ssc-factory-9mm.html

Cool. I kinda have an itch for a .40 1911. I briefly had a stainless Springfield 1911 in .40. It was the most accurate shooting gun in my hands that I've ever had, along with my P7M13. But it was malfunctioning a lot and in my less patient youth I rage quit the thing. I've always regretted not giving Springfield a chance to make it work right, and I'm curious if another 1911 in .40 would shoot as well for me...

[mmc45414]

Cool. I kinda have an itch for a .40 1911.I have always wanted a 10mm pistol, but really cannot get my brain wrapped around getting something just because I want to screw around with it. But now Ruger has the 10mm SR1911, and I have a bunch of .40 ammo, so I am thinking about getting a 10mm and a .40 barrel. But the list of things I am "thinking about" is a pretty long list... :)

[bofe954]

I think I would send my money towards Wesson, looks like the Single Stack Classic is back on the menu for now and would be a great single stack platform in 9 or .40

https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/dan-wesson-ssc-factory-9mm.html

I am slowly looking at 9mm USPSA 1911's and the SSC is in there. I'd get a dawson or techwell for it anyway, so it isn't any cheaper. Really for the money I think I'd just get a PM-9. With the 3-400 I'd save it could be set up the way I want. Neither have the undercut trigger guard the Ruger has. The PM-9 has the rib which I kind of don't like, but no big deal.