Most Accurate Sights?

[bayoubengal]

Im looking to put new sights on my Stock M&P 9 Full. I just recieved the gun earlier this month and have really enjoyed shooting it. I have put almost 1000 rounds through it and was thinking about putting some new sights on it. I would like night sights but would like to know what kind are the best in what configuration. I plan to put a crimson trace laser grip on it later down the road.

[ToddG]

The most accurate sight is going to be a dot, like an RMR or laser. After that, you want something with a fairly narrow plain black front sight and almost-as-narrow plain black rear notch... at least, that's what most folks find gives them the best slowfire accuracy.

Once you start putting speed into the equation, that changes pretty radically and different people have different opinions. Personally, I'm not so much concerned about the width of my front as I am the ratio of front sight to rear notch, and I prefer a high visibility front. I also want tritium front & back for low light shooting.

[MEH]

One thing that affects my accuracy is the rear sight's horizontal line. I have been using the Warren Tactical's for years and have recently removed them and replaced them with Warren Sevigney's. My eyesight is such that the shorter horizontal lines on the Tactical's just get lost in the blur at times. The longer Sevigney's make it easier to line up the sights.

Other than that, Todd's right about the ratio being the key factor, and that can be very individual, as well.

[iakdrago]

in addition to sights, i also find that the target behind the sights plays a role in my overall performance. If the sight completely obscures the reference frame on the target my accuracy obviously suffers. If the sights are nicely "framed" on the target, with thin edges of the target visible around the sight, i have a more consistent aiming point and my accuracy improves.

Due to the above self made observations, different sights work with different targets better. In addition different ranges play a role in the ratio of the target size to sight picture, further complicating things. These observations i made with reference to "me," but i believe that they might be universal--something that i wish that much more experienced/better shooters from this forum would comment on.

[BaiHu]

The most accurate sight is going to be a dot, like an RMR or laser. After that, you want something with a fairly narrow plain black front sight and almost-as-narrow plain black rear notch... at least, that's what most folks find gives them the best slowfire accuracy.

Once you start putting speed into the equation, that changes pretty radically and different people have different opinions. Personally, I'm not so much concerned about the width of my front as I am the ratio of front sight to rear notch, and I prefer a high visibility front. I also want tritium front & back for low light shooting.

When you refer to tritium, do you care if they are Meps or Trijicons?

[LittleLebowski]

When you refer to tritium, do you care if they are Meps or Trijicons?

Warrens, Heinies, or Ameriglos.

[JHC]

The most accurate sight is going to be a dot, like an RMR or laser. After that, you want something with a fairly narrow plain black front sight and almost-as-narrow plain black rear notch... at least, that's what most folks find gives them the best slowfire accuracy.

Once you start putting speed into the equation, that changes pretty radically and different people have different opinions. Personally, I'm not so much concerned about the width of my front as I am the ratio of front sight to rear notch, and I prefer a high visibility front. I also want tritium front & back for low light shooting.

That. Now I've got to check Ameriglo's full catalog with a combo to get there. A .110 front with about a .120 rear maybe. They'd be all steel but cheap to experiment with. My son has a narrow .125 or .130 Warren Sevigny rear with this Warren tritium front on his Gen 4 G17 and there's still plenty of side light and they do shoot well at 25. Doesn't slow my old eyes down on drills either. He also snagged 10-8's last .125 Glock rear (Hilton says no more to be made) and it works well with the Warren tritium front. He shoots lights out with those narrow rears.

[ToddG]

When you refer to tritium, do you care if they are Meps or Trijicons?

From a QC standpoint, no. From a design standpoint, yes. But that revolves back into a discussion about sight picture that isn't solely about maximum accuracy at the cost of speed, low light capability, etc. If you're interested in what type of sights answer all of those needs the best, do a search and you'll find quite a few threads about it here.

[F-Trooper05]

Just get these and call it a day...


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[ToddG]

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[Matt O]

I was kinda hoping they'd come out with the P226 Conan...

Customer: "Sig, what is best in life?"
Sig: "To crush the plate rack and see it fall before you, to hear the lamentations of the X-ring."

[98z28]

Just get these and call it a day...


http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/millert12005/226.png

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/millert12005/p226.png

Oh please, PLEASE tell me that isn't real...

I'd like to think that is a bit much even for Sig, but frankly I wouldn't be surprised by anything from them these days.

[Long tom coffin]

I want to crawl someplace private and cry right now

[zml342]

Just get these and call it a day...


http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/millert12005/p226.png

Dude, those are perfect! Regular and suppressor height all in one. And the rear sight even comes with a peep hole to line up the front sight. Winner winner chicken dinner right here!!!

[Johnkard]

We'd be remiss if we didn't mention Dawson Precision, in fact their web site has some good information about sight width ratios.

Personally I like Trueglo or Dawson fiber-optic for the front and a plain rear notch (with a 1:1 ratio), but a Heinie Straight 8 or a Dawson set with fiber-optic can be highly effective as well.

Don't overthink this, good shooting discipline trumps good sights any day.

[nwhpfan]

I tend to hear more about how to shoot accurately fast..which tends to favor the idea of a thin front blade with a wider than front blade rear notch. As for which sights are most accurate; there's relay not much to say as long as their made of a durable material and don't drift, fold, or fail. If plastic Glock sights are aligned properly and a slow steady squeeze is applied and it is repeated over, and over, and over; absent a flaw with the barrel or ammunition the round is going to impact generally in the same place. Changing one sight style to the next does little to effect the pistol and ammunition ability to be accurate. For competition; I use Sevigny Competition Sights with a fiber optic front ....but for a long time I competed with stock sights; the front of which was painted orange. When I changed; my pistol was just as accurate but my speed picked up tenths here and there...

[JHC]

I tend to hear more about how to shoot accurately fast..which tends to favor the idea of a thin front blade with a wider than front blade rear notch. As for which sights are most accurate; there's relay not much to say as long as their made of a durable material and don't drift, fold, or fail. If plastic Glock sights are aligned properly and a slow steady squeeze is applied and it is repeated over, and over, and over; absent a flaw with the barrel or ammunition the round is going to impact generally in the same place. Changing one sight style to the next does little to effect the pistol and ammunition ability to be accurate. For competition; I use Sevigny Competition Sights with a fiber optic front ....but for a long time I competed with stock sights; the front of which was painted orange. When I changed; my pistol was just as accurate but my speed picked up tenths here and there...

Oh some of the best 25 yard offhand shooting I've witnessed was done with factory Glock sights on our Gen 4 G17 #2 with the shooters 23 year old eyes. He was shooting groups I can only do off a rest.

When he changed them out he went with Warren Sevigny Carry sets but substituted the optional narrow .130 wide Sevigny rear. Then the light panes in the rear notch were closer to the tightness of the factory Glock plastic sights.

[Mitchell, Esq.]

Just get these and call it a day...


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http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/millert12005/p226.png


Is that photo shop?

That's a stunning presentation gun.

[TGS]

Is that photo shop?

That's a stunning presentation gun.

It makes me want to support the Brady Campaign and have the 2nd Amendment taken away.

[F-Trooper05]

Is that photo shop?

You wish...

http://www.sigsauer.de/englisch/mastershop/prestige/viking.html#

[Johnkard]

"...intricately carved from mammoth tusks..."

I want to see that gun put through this regimen:

http://theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Itemid=40 (Glock Test)

[NickA]

One of the first things taught in the DTI basic class I took: the sites are always "lined up", because they're attached to the slide. It's up to you to keep them that way when you make a shot.

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