Leaked: new Glock G45

[JBP55]

There is a picture of a black Glock similar to that new G17 online. All Black front serrations, no cutout, no G19X extension on front of frame, G19 slide, G17 frame.
Slide is marked G45.

[HeavyDuty]

There is a picture of a black Glock similar to that new G17 online. All Black front serrations, no cutout, no G19X extension on front of frame, G19 slide, G17 frame.
Slide is marked G45.
My Google-fu is weak. Do you remember where you saw the pic?

[JBP55]

My Google-fu is weak. Do you remember where you saw the pic?

I will try to find it again on Facebook.

[JBP55]

My Google-fu is weak. Do you remember where you saw the pic?

Glock Nation on Facebook posted about an hour ago by Philipp Ott.

[HeavyDuty]

Glock Nation on Facebook posted about an hour ago by Philipp Ott.
Thanks - I don’t FB for guns, but I’m sure the pic will make the rounds soon.

[t1tan]

https://i.imgur.com/kDwcMcp.jpg

[t1tan]

https://i.imgur.com/kDwcMcp.jpg

[HeavyDuty]

Interesting - thanks!

Edit - I’m having a hard time telling if the G45 grip is 17 sized or 19?

[t1tan]

Saw it and had to share it, everything I want in a Glock. Already ordered a mayhem MK2 barrel for it, just need a gadget, my preferred trigger and send it off to ATEi for serration enhancements and milling for an ACRO P-1 whenever those come out or ATOM if they have plates ready. Beyond excited now, a comped 19 that will fit my hands.

[JBP55]

Interesting - thanks!

Edit - I’m having a hard time telling if the G45 grip is 17 sized or 19?

Article quoted G19 slide on G17 frame similar to the G19X.

[t1tan]

My German sucks, but what I'm getting from that is that the black 19X is the G45 and that it has front serrations and a Gen5 flared magwell minus the front cutout. Is that correct?



Correct

[GJM]

https://i.imgur.com/kDwcMcp.jpg

Perfect gun to direct mill an optic on.

[HeavyDuty]

I think I need this.

[t1tan]

I’m curious if it still comes with the extended magazine release and maritime spring cups like the 19X.

[Grey]

Well that means i need two more guns

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[HeavyDuty]

... and we still don’t know what a G44 is.

[GJM]

I am especially relieved Glock has followed its naming tradition, by calling their new 9mm the model 45.

[23JAZ]

I am especially relieved Glock has followed its naming tradition, by calling their new 9mm the model 45.
Glock must have the dumbest fucking people in their market research department. So now you can get the G45 and have to have it milled for a red dog and/or chopped to take normal G19 mags. Fuckin geniuses at Glock I tell ya.

[Sigfan26]

Glock must have the dumbest fucking people in their market research department. So now you can get the G45 and have to have it milled for a red dog and/or chopped to take normal G19 mags. Fuckin geniuses at Glock I tell ya.

One should proof read most when calling others dumb...


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[YVK]

I am especially relieved Glock has followed its naming tradition, by calling their new 9mm the model 45.

Trying to appeal to a 1911 crowd, JMB's original caliber and such.


Cautiously optimistic that G45 has as good a trigger as 19x does.

[Sensei]

Please tell me that G45 is coming to a store near me.

[23JAZ]

One should proof read most when calling others dumb...


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I must not be up to date on my German. You want to elaborate.

[GJM]

If I knew a year ago, what I know now, the 19X/G45 would replace all my G5 Glock pistols.

With its full grip, it is so close to a 34 as an optics platform, to be able to do that job. Chopped to a 26 butt, like I have one, it does the G26 job. And this is the most surprising — with its full grip I can run the X in my George in the low ride position, and still get the pistol out quickly. With a 19 chopped, I need to run it in a higher ride position to draw decently, and the 19X low ends up concealing about as well as a chopped 19 up high, and you get the benefit of a full size grip.

[El Cid]

https://i.imgur.com/kDwcMcp.jpg

Ok. If this is a G45, and the G46 is the rotary bbl gun made for a Euro contract... I wonder what the G44 could be? Interesting times we live in and I’m gonna need a new safe at this rate. Lol!

[Sigfan26]

I must not be up to date on my German. You want to elaborate.

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[Balisong]

... and we still don’t know what a G44 is.

I hear it's going to be featured in the next Dirty Harry movie.

[HCM]

... and we still don’t know what a G44 is.

Glock 20 grip with Glock 29 slide. That’s what it should be anyway.

[FNFAN]

Ok. If this is a G45, and the G46 is the rotary bbl gun made for a Euro contract... I wonder what the G44 could be? Interesting times we live in and I’m gonna need a new safe at this rate. Lol!

G44 is the .223 carbine.

[23JAZ]

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Damn autocorrect got me again!

[Wondering Beard]

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I would be interested in seeing a red dog on a Glock slide.

[WOLFIE]

I would be interested in seeing a red dog on a Glock slide.

I want to see an OD Green dog on a Glock slide. I am not sure if red and black look good together. It may depend on the type of red.

[Wondering Beard]

I want to see an OD Green dog on a Glock slide. I am not sure if red and black look good together. It may depend on the type of red.

It could work:

https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/uploaded/thumbnails/projects/30158/MAD-CUSTOM-COATING-H-167-USMC-Red-H-234-Sniper-Grey-and-H-146-Graphite-Black-60920-full.jpg


But I think a lot more depends on the type of dog.

To not derail things too much, that G45 checks a lot of boxes for me, but I'd still want a G19X because 'tactical peanut butter"!

[Bucky]

My German sucks, but what I'm getting from that is that the black 19X is the G45 and that it has front serrations and a Gen5 flared magwell minus the front cutout. Is that correct?

Anyone think the flared magwell would impact concealability?

[Ndbbm]

I haven’t noticed any issues with the mag well impacting concealment on a 17.5.

Jason

[Bucky]

I haven’t noticed any issues with the mag well impacting concealment on a 17.5.

Jason

Thanks.

[HeavyDuty]

Ok, it’s been discussed on an Austrian forum since Friday - they mention where the ad was found, apparently some digital magazine:

https://www.pulverdampf.com/viewtopic.php?t=43013

[ranger]

I am holding out now for a G45 9mm and the new Aimpoint RDS. Glad I have resisted the Gen 5 G19 or 17 until now.

[LittleLebowski]

https://www.omahaoutdoors.com/blog/i-google-translated-the-glock-45-announcement-so-you-dont-have-to/

[orionz06]

This may need to be what I send to Boresight.

[LockedBreech]

I am all. About. That.


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[Clusterfrack]

I'll admit I totally don't get the 19X. Why would you want a 19 length slide and a 17 length grip? Is it a hand size thing?

[Bucky]

I'll admit I totally don't get the 19X. Why would you want a 19 length slide and a 17 length grip? Is it a hand size thing?

People really seem to like that combination.

[ECVMatt]

I guess it is kind of like a Glock Commander. Glommander....Commandock?


Honestly I feel like Glock is in a bit of trouble. They are loosing contracts to Sig on the top end and getting eaten up by less expensive, but very well made polymer guns on the bottom end. For years they refused to innovate or expand, now they seem a bit behind and trying to catch up.

Just to be fair, 90% of my pistols are from Glock. At this point in my life I don't see a big switch coming. Have been shooting them since the early nineties and they work for me.

[Gadfly]

Well, I like the front serrations, and they did away with the stupid frame extension on the front strap that made mag base plate compatibility an issue. So I like it better than the X. Still want a 19 frame on a 17 slide with front serrations.


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[396]

I'll admit I totally don't get the 19X. Why would you want a 19 length slide and a 17 length grip? Is it a hand size thing?

Don't get it either. Smart move if they got rid of the cut out though.

[HeavyDuty]

I'll admit I totally don't get the 19X. Why would you want a 19 length slide and a 17 length grip? Is it a hand size thing?

I didn’t get it, either - until I handled a 19X. Great balance, just like a Commander. I think of it as an alternative to a 17, not a 19.

[YVK]

I'll admit I totally don't get the 19X.

See if you can find a way shooting one. If we're ever again shoot the same match, you're welcome to shoot mine. I find that it cycles and handles better than any Glock variant I've tried although admittedly I've not spent much time behind the 34.

[Default.mp3]

As a side note, allegedly the black 19X will be the G45. Would be a chuckle-worthy move if this actually happens.G45 allegedly has an October release date.

[JSGlock34]

I suspect a G45 MOS will eventually follow.

[LockedBreech]

I'll admit I totally don't get the 19X. Why would you want a 19 length slide and a 17 length grip? Is it a hand size thing?

I was skeptical until I played with the 320 Carry, 19X, and P30 standard 3.86” - it gives you a nice combination of easy control manipulation and high capacity along with quick orientation/acquisition.

I don’t think I’d want one for a duty gun, I’d prefer the 4.5-5” guns for those 20+ yard shots, but at close range it’s a bit quicker, so great for carry or competition.


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[Clusterfrack]

Dudes, I get the balance thing in Glocks. I like the balance of the 19 better than the 17, and 17 better than the 34. The 34 in particular feels and looks all long and goofy. But the numbers don't lie. In most timed drills, I shoot a 34 > 17 > 19.

As far as the grip size goes, I don't have huge hands so a 19 grip fits me well. Carry-wise, the longer grip isn't worth the disadvantage for me. AIWB, a 17 grip prints much more readily. OWB, the 17 grip bumps into stuff more than a 19. And all for +2 rounds? No thanks. I'll just carry a 17 or 21 round spare mag.

[HCM]

I was skeptical until I played with the 320 Carry, 19X, and P30 standard 3.86” - it gives you a nice combination of easy control manipulation and high capacity along with quick orientation/acquisition.

I don’t think I’d want one for a duty gun, I’d prefer the 4.5-5” guns for those 20+ yard shots, but at close range it’s a bit quicker, so great for carry or competition.


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RDS will make 4.5”-5” Guns redundant.

I will get a G45 and get it cut for optics.

[wmu12071]

If Glock really wants to make an impressive change make a 17 slide and 19 frame (G19L) and a 19 slide on a 26 frame with a full light rail (G26L). Then for every size 43 to 34 and all the weird combos in between undercut the trigger guard and run the frame stippling from the base of the grip to the slide and all the way forward to the back of the rail.

I personally fight with the Gen 5 slide stop but I could get over it or modify it if they would actually factory undercut and run the stippling up high enough. I am happy to see it looks like the finally finished the front of the frame to match the slide...

[10mmfanboy]

I don't get the 19x either. It just reminds me of a m&p full size. I got rid of my m&p because I felt like it had a bigger grip than it needed and a shorter sight radius than I'd like in a full size. I've been waiting to see how the timberwolf frames will be with the grip chop sizes available. I'm pretty tired of mutilating my glock frames. I've grip chopped a few now.

[Clusterfrack]

RDS will make 4.5”-5” Guns redundant.

I will get a G45 and get it cut for optics.

Ok. That I get.

[okie john]

If Glock really wants to make an impressive change make a 17 slide and 19 frame (G19L) and a 19 slide on a 26 frame with a full light rail (G26L).

A thousand times this.


Okie John

[JonInWA]

I can't say anything else for a bit, but a G45 is is definitely on my buy list for 2018....

Best, Jon

[drummer]

Honestly I feel like Glock is in a bit of trouble. They are loosing contracts to Sig on the top end and getting eaten up by less expensive, but very well made polymer guns on the bottom end. For years they refused to innovate or expand, now they seem a bit behind and trying to catch up.


Dont think for a minute that Glocks in trouble. They control roughly 30% of the American handgun market and a probably higher cut of the LEO market selling essentially one product.

True, the market has gotten more competitive, but for so long Glocks competitors werent so competitive, looking at you S&W.

It would seem that the 45.5, 19.5, and 17.5 with MOS and front serrations is all Glock needs to focus on these days with a few G42 and G43 sprinkled in.

[WobblyPossum]

Exactly. How many hundred thousand 19X pistols did they say they sold this year already? I don’t think Glock is in any trouble at all. Yes they lost two large contract selections but they still control more than 50% of the LE market and there are portions of the military who use and will continue to use Glocks. Plus they’re still doing well in the civilian market.

[Trukinjp13]

Dudes, I get the balance thing in Glocks. I like the balance of the 19 better than the 17, and 17 better than the 34. The 34 in particular feels and looks all long and goofy. But the numbers don't lie. In most timed drills, I shoot a 34 > 17 > 19.

As far as the grip size goes, I don't have huge hands so a 19 grip fits me well. Carry-wise, the longer grip isn't worth the disadvantage for me. AIWB, a 17 grip prints much more readily. OWB, the 17 grip bumps into stuff more than a 19. And all for +2 rounds? No thanks. I'll just carry a 17 or 21 round spare mag.

Cluster I get where you are coming from. But you need to shoot it to understand. I have one now. Best shooting Glock I have had. The balance is different than a 17 and a 19. It shoots very soft and fast. It is considerably better for me than my g17.5 was. It just works. I did not like the g17 feel but with the shorter slide it really changes that. I have similar hands to you and it still feels better because of the hump relation to my hand.

G19x>g17>g19.5>g19.4

[GJM]

I am especially relieved Glock has followed its naming tradition, by calling their new 9mm the model 45.

I checked with the head shed, and apparently a lot of thought was put into naming this new pistol the Glock 45. They say that 45 is short for 4+5 = 9.

[Savage Hands]

Now it's official: GLOCK is launching 3 new models with the G45, G17 Gen5 MOS and G19 Gen5 MOS in autumn 2018.
https://www.all4shooters.com/en/Shooting/pistols/GLOCK-45-Crossover-and-G17-G19-Gen5-MOS-features/

[TCFD273]

Now it's official: GLOCK is launching 3 new models with the G45, G17 Gen5 MOS and G19 Gen5 MOS in autumn 2018.
https://www.all4shooters.com/en/Shooting/pistols/GLOCK-45-Crossover-and-G17-G19-Gen5-MOS-features/

And now my gun fund is going to be a little lighter. Haha


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[JSGlock34]

Now it's official: GLOCK is launching 3 new models with the G45, G17 Gen5 MOS and G19 Gen5 MOS in autumn 2018.
https://www.all4shooters.com/en/Shooting/pistols/GLOCK-45-Crossover-and-G17-G19-Gen5-MOS-features/

Drop that G19 MOS slide on the G45...just need a threaded marksman barrel...

[TCFD273]

Dudes, I get the balance thing in Glocks. I like the balance of the 19 better than the 17, and 17 better than the 34. The 34 in particular feels and looks all long and goofy. But the numbers don't lie. In most timed drills, I shoot a 34 > 17 > 19.

As far as the grip size goes, I don't have huge hands so a 19 grip fits me well. Carry-wise, the longer grip isn't worth the disadvantage for me. AIWB, a 17 grip prints much more readily. OWB, the 17 grip bumps into stuff more than a 19. And all for +2 rounds? No thanks. I'll just carry a 17 or 21 round spare mag.

I carried a Gen 4 17 for years, bought a Gen 5 17 when they were released, picked up a 19x earlier this year.

I greatly prefer the 19x over the 17. No differences on the clock that can’t be chalked up to...I was just on my game today.


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[HeavyDuty]

Exactly. How many hundred thousand 19X pistols did they say they sold this year already? I don’t think Glock is in any trouble at all. Yes they lost two large contract selections but they still control more than 50% of the LE market and there are portions of the military who use and will continue to use Glocks. Plus they’re still doing well in the civilian market.

Glock knows what they are doing.

First the 42, then a 43 after the feeding frenzy was over. How many people bought both that would never have bought a 42 if they came out at the same time?

Now, sell a gazillion 19Xes, and then roll out what many of those buyers really wanted... a 45.

Hinterhältig, as my late Sudetenlander mother-in-law used to say...

[ECVMatt]

Dont think for a minute that Glocks in trouble. They control roughly 30% of the American handgun market and a probably higher cut of the LEO market selling essentially one product.

True, the market has gotten more competitive, but for so long Glocks competitors werent so competitive, looking at you S&W.

It would seem that the 45.5, 19.5, and 17.5 with MOS and front serrations is all Glock needs to focus on these days with a few G42 and G43 sprinkled in.

I totally agree, like I said, I am a Glock guy and have been from quite some time. With that said, Glock has rested on their laurels and lost a portion of the market that they once dominated.

Here is a quote from Tactical Life (Not that they are the end all be all, but have a pretty good pulse on the industry):

"We weren’t kidding when we said police departments like the P320. In the past few months alone, North Dakota’s Bismarck Police Department; the Tampa Police Department in Florida; Jacksonville PD in Arkansas; Texas Department of Public Safety; Chicago Police Department; and the Virginia State Police have all either adopted the P320 outright or added it to a list of approved duty guns.

Oh, the P320 is also the basis for the M17 and M18, the official sidearm of the U.S. Army, U.S. Marine Corps, U.S. Navy, U.S. Coast Guard and U.S. Air Force."

I still love my Glocks and don't think they are going anywhere soon, but I do wish they would do more innovating.

[HeavyDuty]

Another website reporting the 45:

https://www.firearmrack.com/glock-45-black-glock-19x/

[Jay Cunningham]

I want three.

[jbrimlow]

Want. With an ACRO.

[HeavyDuty]

Three sounds like wretched excess. Now, two...

[UNK]

So Glock named the new 9mm after the 45th President. Thats Awesome.

[TAZ]

So Glock named the new 9mm after the 45th President. Thats Awesome.

Lol!!!

I just paid to have my 19x milled for an RMR, but I’m still putting this into the TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!

If Jagerwerks does a good job on my 19X they will undoubtedly have another slide to mess with this spring.

[sharps54]

I haven’t really tracked all the Gen 5 releases but from what I’m gathering you can’t use all magazines with the 19X? Aside from that possible magazine issue, front serrations (which I don’t like), and color (doesn’t matter to me) what does the 45 do the 19X doesn’t?

I do not plan on mounting a RDS on my pistol and was planning on picking up a 34.5 but from what I’m reading here even if I’m sticking to irons I should get the 19X or 45 over the 34.5 as a carry gun. Is that correct? I haven’t shot a 19X but know I shoot a 34.4 better than my 19.4 so I’m a bit surprised at that.

[Bigghoss]

So I didn't get the 19x at first either, then I fondled one at the gun store and really liked the balance and I would like to try one. I like the feature set on the G45 a little more but I really like tan guns because they don't get hot from sitting in the sun.

[sharps54]

Looks like Elite Shooting Sports has one to rent so I’ll try it tomorrow.

[ranger]

So what is the Glock 44 - I am betting a double stack G43!

[HeavyDuty]

So what is the Glock 44 - I am betting a double stack G43!

You mean a 26?

[ranger]

You mean a 26?

G43 slide is different than G26 slide - I knew the G26 comparison would come up!

[STI]

So what is the Glock 44 - I am betting a double stack G43!

I think more are waiting for the single stack G19 sized G43 ...

[HeavyDuty]

G43 slide is different than G26 slide - I knew the G26 comparison would come up!

Oh - like a 30s. Gotcha!

[SmokeJumper]

I may be the only one that was hoping this was a .45.....I'm interested since I haven't purchased a Gen-5 19 or 19x, both of which I am digging for a carry gun. Curious to see one and shoot it.

[TheNewbie]

I may be the only one that was hoping this was a .45.....I'm interested since I haven't purchased a Gen-5 19 or 19x, both of which I am digging for a carry gun. Curious to see one and shoot it.


A Gen 5 21 would be nice. Wonder if it is in the works .

[Sensei]

Are we sure this is coming to the US?

[HopetonBrown]

Are we sure this is coming to the US?Hasn't every Glock come out in the US save for those 380 blowback ones?

[Bucky]

Hasn't every Glock come out in the US save for those 380 blowback ones?

Doesn’t look like we’ll be getting the 46.

[t1tan]

Glock just officially announced the G45

Available on October 5th

[HeavyDuty]

Glock just officially announced the G45

Available on October 5th
Yep, just got the email:

“SMYRNA, Ga. – Sep 24, 2018 Today, GLOCK, Inc. announced a new addition to the 9X19 family of pistols featuring the latest in design and engineering seen in the 5th Generation of GLOCK pistols. The GLOCK 45 combines the fast handling of the GLOCK 19 compact-sized slide with the full-size frame as a compact Crossover.

Taking on the Crossover design of the GLOCK 19X and the superior GLOCK hard-surface finish in non-reflective black, the G45 makes the ultimate service pistol.

“After the release of the G19X, we saw a strong interest from the law enforcement community for the design in a black model,” said GLOCK, Inc. VP Josh Dorsey. “The G45 is the result of a design that meets the demanding level of reliability with distinctive Gen5 design enhancements to improve durability, accuracy and performance to those who go into harm’s way where fractions of a second matter.”

Engineered with the GLOCK perfection promise, the G45 features the Safe Action System® and is backed by torture-testing that has made GLOCK a name synonymous with innovation and reliability.

The G45 incorporates elements of the 5th Generation of GLOCK pistols including a smoother trigger pull, an enhanced frame texture for sure handling, a reversible magazine catch, ambidextrous slide stop lever, the Modular Backstrap System (MBS) for individual adjustability and the incredibly accurate, match-grade GLOCK Marksman Barrel (GMB). The G45 also features front serrations which are precision-milled forward of the ejection port on both sides.

The GLOCK Compact Crossover Pistol Model G45 will make its debut at The International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) Conference and will be available on dealer shelves beginning October 5th.

For more information about the new Compact Crossover G45, contact GLOCK, Inc. or go to us.glock.com/products/G45.”

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[WobblyPossum]

I think my project for 2019 will be an RDS equipped pistol. The G45 might be just the gun to be the base. I’m patiently waiting for GJM to pick up a couple and let us know if they have the consistently good triggers of the 19X.

[GJM]

A friend of mine, who has handled a number of the new G45 pistols, said each one had an excellent trigger, so I am optimistic they will be like the 19X in that regard.

Interesting that Glock showed a RMS Shield in their ad above.

[TAZ]

I’m surprised that the MOS line stopped at the 17 and 19. Why no 34/35/41? Those already out??

I would like to see them push out an MOS 43 or even just an RMSC 43. Would make a super carry gun.

[DAVE_M]

I’m surprised that the MOS line stopped at the 17 and 19. Why no 34/35/41? Those already out??

I would like to see them push out an MOS 43 or even just an RMSC 43. Would make a super carry gun.

The Gen 5 34 MOS has been out for a long time.

You won't see a Gen 5 35 or 41 any time soon.

You also won't see a MOS 43. That's due to the geometry of the slide.

[Nephrology]

Nice. This finally get me into the Gen 5 market.

[El Cid]

Interesting that Glock showed a RMS Shield in their ad above.

I was actually going to dig up the thread for the Shield today and ask if you had any feedback on them. I recall you had one you were evaluating.

[Hambo]

I like where Glock is going with these, but they're starting to remind me of S&W circa early 1990s.

[Center Shot]

The Blue Label price for the G45 is $398.20

https://www.gtdist.com/glock-45-9mm-gen-5-le-3-mags-w-fs-fixed-sights.html

[Drang]

Shooting Illustrated | New for 2018: Glock G45 (https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2018/9/24/new-for-2018-glock-g45/)

[TiroFijo]

For me a simple Gen 5 G19 with no front cutout in the mag well would be ideal... I don't plan to use MRDS. I also have no use for front serrations, but with modern holsters than don't get chewed it is a non issue if the gun has them.

The G19 grip is juuust a little too small for me. I can live with it, but I prefer the G17 grip.

This G45 (perhaps with the option of an optic-ready slide) looks like an ideal do it everything for everyone service gun. No one wiht small hands complains on the G17 grip, while big hands and G19 grips don't mix that well.

[KeeFus]

The Blue Label price for the G45 is $398.20

https://www.gtdist.com/glock-45-9mm-gen-5-le-3-mags-w-fs-fixed-sights.html

If that’s the case I will have one in a couple weeks. Adding night sights will likely add to that figure.

[Texaspoff]

I like the G45 as a whole, but I really have no need for the serrations or flared magwell. The magwell works and isn't a problem, but it isn't a have to have either. The front serrations on my 19FS caused a bit of dragging on my ALS locking system, and I suspect these will do the same. It doesn't hang the gun up, but does detract from a smooth draw, and seemed exaggerated when drawing under speed and stress. Glocks slab side design has never lent itself well to front serrations and duty holsters internal locking systems. The ones I had done on an angle didn't cause any issues though.

I had a pre order for one, but have since decided to take a hold and wait on this one. I may pick one up at some point, but my four 19X's have been perfect.

I am suspecting there is going to be a few used 19X for sale in the near future, and so I am on the hunt for #5 now.

Plus I love the 19X roll marks in black....:)

https://i.imgur.com/ecdhYdK.jpg



TXPO

[TC215]

If that’s the case I will have one in a couple weeks. Adding night sights will likely add to that figure.

GT has the G45 with BOLD sights listed for $477 (blue label).

[davisj]

Anyone other than GT have these listed for sale for mere mortals? Nothing at Brownells yet.

[23JAZ]

Ok then. I take back everything I said about Glock. I will be getting one of these but it will be sent to Ben for some of his grip work magic after being vetted. Just need to decide if I want to chop the 17 to a 19 or just stick with the 19.

[TAZ]

The Blue Label price for the G45 is $398.20

https://www.gtdist.com/glock-45-9mm-gen-5-le-3-mags-w-fs-fixed-sights.html

Damn it! I keep forget to mail in my GSSF stuff to get my coupon. Ugggggghhhhhh

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Moving pictures: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/09/24/glock-45-video/

[scw2]

Are the gen 5 MOS pistols coming out at the same time? Finally want to get on the gen5 and optics trains.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

The firearm blog site that I reference, had info on other models.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/09/24/glock-optic-ready-gen5/

Geez, I have a Gen 2 19, Gen 3 26, Gen 4 17 and a G42.

That's it until the plasma carbine comes out.

[JBP55]

I am #1 on a local waiting list for a G45.

[STI]

Are there any concerns that the new release units could have reliability problems until production is settled in and there's feedback?

I mean, all that's "new" is the lower frame, every other part is existing stock from G17G5 or G19X right?

[DAVE_M]

Damn it! I keep forget to mail in my GSSF stuff to get my coupon. Ugggggghhhhhh

Mine is all wacked out. I paid for a three year membership and already received two coupons in the first year. Idk when my third will arrive.

[tcba_joe]

So... G45 MOS when?

[41magfan]

In stock and selling for $539

https://grabagun.com/glock-g45-g5-9mm-17-1-4-0-fs.html?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_campaign=Daily%20Email

[HeavyDuty]

I am #1 on a local waiting list for a G45.

Just ordered and paid for mine, I’m first on the BL list with this distributor per my pusher. (She got them on the horn to check status first.) GSSF BL price $425 with disposable sights.

[davisj]

In stock and selling for $539

https://grabagun.com/glock-g45-g5-9mm-17-1-4-0-fs.html?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_campaign=Daily%20Email

Ordered, thanks for the heads up.

[CDFIII]

Order placed with GrabaGun. They dropped an email blast. Sales rep. stated they are in stock and ready for shipping. I hope;)!

[cjb1911]

Yup it happened for me too... ordering agent sights from brownells now.

[KeeFus]

GT has the G45 with BOLD sights listed for $477 (blue label).

I literally just got off the phone with my local “blue label” dealer.

Salesman, “Glock 45? What the hell is that?” LOL.

[TiroFijo]

The question that pops up in my mind is: when are they going to trim the G17/19 lineup? Too many models with too little differences among them now.

I remember the good ol' days when all you had to worry was Gen 2 and 3 (Gen 1 being too old and scarse), and replacement parts were so easy to figure out. They made significant internal changes with the Gen 4 and 5 and whatever got in the middle.

[JBP55]

I literally just got off the phone with my local “blue label” dealer.

Salesman, “Glock 45? What the hell is that?” LOL.

When I called this morning the salesman was totally confused. I referred him to the owner who confirmed Glock was indeed making a G45 and he then took my order which put me #1 on the list.

[EVP]

I like this release from Glock. I don’t have a need for flared magwell or front cocking serrations. I have wondered why Glock has not offered this as a standard option.

Down the road I may pick one up and make the 19x a training gun. Easy to tell them apart. Hahaha

[davisj]

Assume these ship with three 17 round magazines. Can anyone confirm?

BTW, only 2 left at GrabAGun.

[Center Shot]

Assume these ship with three 17 round magazines. Can anyone confirm?

BTW, only 2 left at GrabAGun.

Three Gen5 magazines!

[HeavyDuty]

Assume these ship with three 17 round magazines. Can anyone confirm?

BTW, only 2 left at GrabAGun.

I’m assuming that is the case, at least for blue label guns.

[Grey]

Given my only glocks are 19x not sure if i can justify getting a G45. Looks like a winner though.

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[ST911]

$428.50 with bolds and 3 magazines, agency price

[HeavyDuty]

My least favorite Glock is my 19.4. I have a feeling that gun’s slide is going to spend most of its time on one of my subcompact frames (I have the LW adapter, it works well) and the 45 will take its place as my utility pistol.

[Grey]

$428.50 with bolds and 3 magazines, agency priceKiller deal, wish i had that discount, no brainer.

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[alex]

I wonder if this will come with a 6.1mm or 6.5mm rear. From Sootch's video it looks like his came with a 6.5mm rear while the 19X comes 6.1 standard.

[KeeFus]

$428.50 with bolds and 3 magazines, agency price

^^^

My blue label salesman emailed me after he left work while ago...$425ish.

[gtae07]

Glock knows what they are doing.

First the 42, then a 43 after the feeding frenzy was over. How many people bought both that would never have bought a 42 if they came out at the same time?

Funny you'd say that... we picked up a 42 for my wife because she doesn't shoot the 43 too well. Now the 43 is all mine :cool:


Honestly, though, the 45 has no appeal for me, and neither does the 19X. But I will admit I'm being drawn more to a G19.5 as time goes on. Maybe that's what I'll do with the GSSF coupon when I register for the local match...

[Savage Hands]

Some of you are complaining of too many models? GTFOH, try living somewhere where you’re stuck buying some Gen 3 models new or 19x’s for $1,200+ on the used market. Enjoy your first world problems. /rant

[scjbash]

Some of you are complaining of too many models? GTFOH, try living somewhere where you’re stuck buying some Gen 3 models new or 19x’s for $1,200+ on the used market. Enjoy your first world problems. /rant

When I read rants like these I never know if they are coming from another country or California.

[Savage Hands]

When I read rants like these I never know if they are coming from another country or California.

They’re basically the same...

[HopetonBrown]

Some of you are complaining of too many models? GTFOH, try living somewhere where you’re stuck buying some Gen 3 models new or 19x’s for $1,200+ on the used market. Enjoy your first world problems. /rantYou need more cop friends.

[Super77]

I think more are waiting for the single stack G19 sized G43 ...

That would be the ticket, or even a G17 size or whatever they need to make it hold 10+1. I think it would be the perfect CCW gun. It would be legal everywhere, conceal really well, full grip, long sight radius, light weight.

[CajunMP357]

The new hybrid G45 is here.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/09/24/glock-g45-ultimate/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2018-09-25&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter

[TiroFijo]

Some of you are complaining of too many models? GTFOH, try living somewhere where you’re stuck buying some Gen 3 models new or 19x’s for $1,200+ on the used market. Enjoy your first world problems. /rant

We all like to pick this and that detail, color and whatnot...

But in truth, there is nothing this new G45 will do that a good Gen 3 G17/19 won't.... and the Gen 3 RSA is simpler and better IMO. Finger grooves are not a deal breaker for most anyone, and 95% of people are just fine without the removable backstrap.

Perhaps the Gen 5 is more accurate on average (?), but the Gen 3 guns are plenty accurate for their intended use.

[Jay Cunningham]

The new hybrid G45 is here.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/09/24/glock-g45-ultimate/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2018-09-25&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter

On a tangent:

I never knew how infantile the commenters were on TFB until I checked out your link.

[El Cid]

That would be the ticket, or even a G17 size or whatever they need to make it hold 10+1. I think it would be the perfect CCW gun. It would be legal everywhere, conceal really well, full grip, long sight radius, light weight.

I see this desire all the time and still don't get it. A Glock is not THAT wide that it's difficult to conceal. With a good holster it will be invisible under a t-shirt. My G43 is too skinny to be comfortable but I tolerate that because it can fit in my front pocket as a BUG. If a shooter wants a G19 sized grip, get the TTI +3 extension for the G43. But a single column G19 or G17 seems like a giant step backwards.

[Arbninftry]

On a tangent:

I never knew how infantile the commenters were on TFB until I checked out your link.

Welcome Back, The MODS are Shit here

[BigT]

We all like to pick this and that detail, color and whatnot...

But in truth, there is nothing this new G45 will do that a good Gen 3 G17/19 won't.... and the Gen 3 RSA is simpler and better IMO. Finger grooves are not a deal breaker for most anyone, and 95% of people are just fine without the removable backstrap.

Perhaps the Gen 5 is more accurate on average (?), but the Gen 3 guns are plenty accurate for their intended use.

But a more accurate, more durable , more reliable product is a win. Can't see why you would want to halt development, otherwise we would still be talking on flip phones and logging on with dial up. Both those things worked after a fashion, but things are better now.

[HeavyDuty]

We all like to pick this and that detail, color and whatnot...

But in truth, there is nothing this new G45 will do that a good Gen 3 G17/19 won't.... and the Gen 3 RSA is simpler and better IMO. Finger grooves are not a deal breaker for most anyone, and 95% of people are just fine without the removable backstrap.

Perhaps the Gen 5 is more accurate on average (?), but the Gen 3 guns are plenty accurate for their intended use.

I can’t agree.

The 45 (and 19X) offer a duty sized weapon with a full grip that reduces seat digging, the 19 length grip isn’t ideal for many people (myself included.) And it took the grip reduction that came in with the Gen4s to bring me back to Glock, the earlier grip size was never ideal for me. Just look at how many people run their Gen4s and Gen5s without any grip adapter.

[WobblyPossum]

I see this desire all the time and still don't get it. A Glock is not THAT wide that it's difficult to conceal. With a good holster it will be invisible under a t-shirt. My G43 is too skinny to be comfortable but I tolerate that because it can fit in my front pocket as a BUG. If a shooter wants a G19 sized grip, get the TTI +3 extension for the G43. But a single column G19 or G17 seems like a giant step backwards.

I’m pretty much in agreement with you which is why I’ve been hoping for a 1.5 stack like the S&W Shield. You make a Shield 5” tall and give it a 4” barrel and you get a thinner G19 that holds 10 rounds. I think it would be the perfect carry gun for people living in 10rd states. Thin enough that it doesn’t feel like you’re wasting opportunity or carrying around excess bulk like when you put a 10rd mag in an actual G19 but thicker enough than a G43 that it’s not as hard to get a decent grip on.

[spinmove_]

But a more accurate, more durable , more reliable product is a win. Can't see why you would want to halt development, otherwise we would still be talking on flip phones and logging on with dial up. Both those things worked after a fashion, but things are better now.

I don’t think he wants to stifle innovation and progress. I think his point was that we maybe put too much stock in little improvements here and there. Some people take it to the extreme by selling off entire swaths of the previous generation Glocks to turn around and buy the same models with just a couple of improvements.

I’m not saying you can’t do that or whatever. If your money and your property, you do you. But personally, I won’t do it because I see nothing wrong with my current Glocks. The money I’d lose on selling my current Glocks and then buying new ones is roughly the same amount I’d spend just getting the minor upgrades the latest generations just gave me, possibly more money. Except now I would have to re-vet my pistols AND buy new sights for them.

No finger grooves? I’ve got a dremel for that or I can send it off to have someone take care of those AND give me a good stippling job. No front serrations or mRDS cutout? ATEi, nuff said. Barrel isn’t accurate enough? I seriously doubt that, but just in case it is I’ve got options, including the new OEM barrel.


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[TiroFijo]

But a more accurate, more durable , more reliable product is a win. Can't see why you would want to halt development, otherwise we would still be talking on flip phones and logging on with dial up. Both those things worked after a fashion, but things are better now.

More accurate? perhaps, by a tiny margin...
More durable and reliable? I doubt it. The Gen 3 never had a problem IME in those respects.

[Grey]

I dont understand why people who arent interested in the new gun have a need to profess their preference fir their old model in order to justify their lack of interest. You can read something, decide its not for you and not write about it for the world to know. I dont go shit all over the revolver threads because I dont have any interest in them.

Those of us that have a 19X love them and the G45 takes the 19X and, from the factory, performs the mods most people want.

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[BigT]

More accurate? perhaps, by a tiny margin...
More durable and reliable? I doubt it. The Gen 3 never had a problem IME in those respects.

They seem to be shooting straighter for a lot of shooters.

The design is a more durable one with reduced chances of small parts failure and as Tom pointed out, its been pretty damn reliable in the FBI's testing.

Was Gen3 good? Yeah. But this is better. No one is suggesting that all your old guns are crap or anything, or that they should be lobbed into the sea, but if you're buying a new gun it makes a lot more sense to buy the better mousetrap.

[Savage Hands]

We all like to pick this and that detail, color and whatnot...

But in truth, there is nothing this new G45 will do that a good Gen 3 G17/19 won't.... and the Gen 3 RSA is simpler and better IMO. Finger grooves are not a deal breaker for most anyone, and 95% of people are just fine without the removable backstrap.

Perhaps the Gen 5 is more accurate on average (?), but the Gen 3 guns are plenty accurate for their intended use.


There’s one huge thing that the new models accomplish, they fit my hand better with the Short Frames, to me that’s a big deal.

[TiroFijo]

FWIW, the M guns (which are essentially the same as Gen5) set a new record at the FBI in their pistol testing with a mean rounds between failure of 11,000.

What was the former record? :D

Did they had a MRBF for the Gen 3 and 4?

[BigT]

What was the former record? :D

Did they had a MRBF for the Gen 3 and 4?
Fewer obviously :)

[WobblyPossum]

If you discount the failures from frangible ammo, which is known to be way less reliable than duty or fmj practice ammo, the MRBS of the Glock Ms tested by the FBI was closer to 110,000 than 11,000.

[Gio]

FWIW, the M guns (which are essentially the same as Gen5) set a new record at the FBI in their pistol testing with a mean rounds between failure of 11,000.

The MRBF was significantly higher than 11,000.

The previous MRBF for gen3/gen4 was significantly lower than 11,000.

Edit: Oops, just saw DanM's post which hits on it.

[DAVE_M]

We all like to pick this and that detail, color and whatnot...

But in truth, there is nothing this new G45 will do that a good Gen 3 G17/19 won't.... and the Gen 3 RSA is simpler and better IMO. Finger grooves are not a deal breaker for most anyone, and 95% of people are just fine without the removable backstrap.

Perhaps the Gen 5 is more accurate on average (?), but the Gen 3 guns are plenty accurate for their intended use.

The Gen 5 is more accurate. That's been proven.
Gen 3 guns are "plenty accurate," but who is to say they shouldn't be more accurate?

"Plenty accurate for their intended use" sounds an awful lot like "Good enough" to me.


I see this desire all the time and still don't get it. A Glock is not THAT wide that it's difficult to conceal. With a good holster it will be invisible under a t-shirt. My G43 is too skinny to be comfortable but I tolerate that because it can fit in my front pocket as a BUG. If a shooter wants a G19 sized grip, get the TTI +3 extension for the G43. But a single column G19 or G17 seems like a giant step backwards.

Many people want a single stack full size Glock because they think it will conceal better. Modern holsters fix the issues of carrying a full size double stack pistol. My typical carry gun is a Glock 34 with a WML and RMR. It conceals as well as my 19 did.


More accurate? perhaps, by a tiny margin...
More durable and reliable? I doubt it. The Gen 3 never had a problem IME in those respects.

Glock spends thousands, if not millions, refining the design for a reason. Reliability is their number 1 concern. People are still running Gen 2 Glocks daily, but that doesn't mean they are more or less reliable than a Gen 3/4/5.

[Gio]

I can’t agree.

The 45 (and 19X) offer a duty sized weapon with a full grip that reduces seat digging, the 19 length grip isn’t ideal for many people (myself included.) And it took the grip reduction that came in with the Gen4s to bring me back to Glock, the earlier grip size was never ideal for me. Just look at how many people run their Gen4s and Gen5s without any grip adapter.

One of the reasons I haven't gotten on board is I don't own a single holster made for a 19 length gun. All my IWB, AIWB, OWB, and tactical holsters are for the 17/34 size, even though I carry a 19M 99% of the time. For the concealment holsters, I find the longer length makes the gun much less likely to rotate out over the belt. If I'm going to deal with concealing a full size grip, I don't want to lose the benefit of a full size slide/sight radius when I already prefer carrying a holster that will accommodate it.

[EVP]

If you discount the failures from frangible ammo, which is known to be way less reliable than duty or fmj practice ammo, the MRBS of the Glock Ms tested by the FBI was closer to 110,000 than 11,000.



Wow, that is awesome. If you can eleborate on this more that would be cool but totally understand if you can’t.


Just looking at the gen 5 guns and how they have upgraded the internals subtly made me realize the gun can probably go very far with minimal parts or spring replacement(minus recoil spring).

[BehindBlueI's]

But in truth, [B]there is nothing this new G45 will do that a good Gen 3 G17/19 won't....

These new fangled guns don't do anything a cap and ball revolver won't.


But a more accurate, more durable , more reliable product is a win.

This.


More accurate? perhaps, by a tiny margin...
More durable and reliable? I doubt it. The Gen 3 never had a problem IME in those respects.

More accurate, proven. "Tiny" is a matter of perspective, and yes, that's what she said. Would you like a gun that shoots 1"-1.5" tighter groups at 25y? No? Then don't buy one.

Reliable? Well, my Gen 3 wasn't reliable with a WML. My "M" is completely reliable with a WML. So regardless of how much you doubt it, I'd say that's an improvement in reliability.

It's evolution, not revolution. Better trigger, more accurate, longer lifespan, and more options. If you don't want it, don't buy it. Simple. Personally, I have been somewhere between meh and no thanks on Glocks until the M/5.

[DAVE_M]

One of the reasons I haven't gotten on board is I don't own a single holster made for a 19 length gun. All my IWB, AIWB, OWB, and tactical holsters are for the 17/34 size, even though I carry a 19M 99% of the time. For the concealment holsters, I find the longer length makes the gun much less likely to rotate out over the belt. If I'm going to deal with concealing a full size grip, I don't want to lose the benefit of a full size slide/sight radius when I already prefer carrying a holster that will accommodate it.

Longer holsters generally conceal better, regardless of the length of firearm. You must have equal length below the belt as you do above the belt. It's simple physics. Longer holsters prevent the firearm from toppling, and will also help in preventing unwanted rotation, as you've mentioned.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28058526_10155311797680963_7146407102989585747_n.j pg?_nc_cat=103&oh=9765b3af5ac6e9343905accc5ffd0c2b&oe=5C16FC44

[WobblyPossum]

Wow, that is awesome. If you can eleborate on this more that would be cool but totally understand if you can’t.
I contacted the FBI Ballistic Research Facility a few months back to get their ammunition testing data. They also sent some other documentation including the results of the Glock M pistols from their testing a few years ago. They could not release the data of any other entrants due to contract requirements but they could release the Glock data because Glock won. I had to agree not to release any specific information I received outside of my agency so I’m not sure how many of the specifics of the Glock results I’m allowed to reveal.

I will say that the testing conducted on the pistols was very thorough and substantial and anyone issued one of these pistols or carrying a Gen 5 Glock should have every confidence in their gun.

[EVP]

Awesome thanks DanM!

[DAVE_M]

More accurate, proven. "Tiny" is a matter of perspective, and yes, that's what she said. Would you like a gun that shoots 1"-1.5" tighter groups at 25y? No? Then don't buy one.

I made this diagram for a different reason, but it can be applied here.

This is what a 100 pt (3X) at 25 yards looks like at closer distances. When someone tells me they made a gun more accurate, I'm ecstatic. If your gun averaged 3" groups at 25 yards, then factor in human error, that could mean a miss at distance. If you told me the new model averaged 1.5" groups at 25 yards, why would you NOT want that? Because it's plenty accurate at 7 yards, right?

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1940/31037339818_9f1913a3fe_b.jpg

[HopetonBrown]

Chuck Pressburg said Gen 3s were 2 9" guns and the FBI were averaging 1.9" with Gen 5s on Facebook yesterday.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180925/71bb4d16721faea0ef45061dd00cefc0.jpg

[BehindBlueI's]

Going from memory but average for 147 gr loads was in the neighborhood of 1.5" with the best examples being under 1".

[TCFD273]

Going from memory but average for 147 gr loads was in the neighborhood of 1.5" with the best examples being under 1".

I know with 147 HST my offhand group size was cut in half going from 3rd and 4th Gen stock barrels to the Gen 5.

I generally ran aftermarket barrels in the previous Gens, no need with the 5


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[Savage Hands]

Chuck Pressburg said Gen 3s were 2 9" guns and the FBI were averaging 1.9" with Gen 5s on Facebook yesterday.


That’s probably comparing current Gen 3 models as the barrel fitment has greatly improved since they were originally released, he’ll its been improved the last 5 years IMO.

[TiroFijo]

Going to 1.9" vs 2.9" seems like a worthwhile improvement...

I must had gotten a couple of good Gen 3's, because I used to plink targets smaller than 2" at 25 m (not yds), no problem hitting most of them... as well as shooting IHMSA targets at 100-200 m.

Every improvement is significant to some degree, and for some people some details are more important than others. Once they start shooting fast, moving and under stress I wonder how many will notice a 1.9" vs a 2.9" gun :D

Beretta claims that in several tests they have a MRBS of about 1/19,000-22,500 for the M9 , depending on the date of the batch. So I guess 1/11,000 is a low number for the Glocks.

I've read the claims about improved accuracy. I've never seen anything published on MRBS or durabiity for the different generation glocks. The Gen 4/5 RSA with double springs will not make the gun more durable, at most it will extend the usable life of the RSA. The former RSA for the 9 mm glocks with the flat spring (a inherently better design than a round wire spring) was very simple and durable as well.

[JHC]

That’s probably comparing current Gen 3 models as the barrel fitment has greatly improved since they were originally released, he’ll its been improved the last 5 years IMO.


FWIW:


I've posted this a few times here and there. This is how I pick out a Glock that will be an outlier for precision.

Obviously we look for the best trigger when handling multiple copies of the same gun because they do vary gun to gun.

But then, with the trigger reset, I pinch the back of the slide at the rear slide serrations and gripping the gun hard I try to wiggle the slide side to side. If there ANY perceptible play, I don't buy that pistol.

I've pretty much traded off all my Glocks that had any play and only kept or newly acquired those with no play. And this is batting 1000 for me in getting very precise Glocks. Like demonstrated 2" guns vs 3-4" guns (spanning Gen 3 and 4).

I still own one Gen 3 that has some play with the OEM barrel. However when I drop the KKM G17 barrel in it, the play is eliminated.

I've turned a couple of young guys that work at my favorite LGS onto this trick. They are real shooters tracking to the Military. They have applied it when choosing their own Glocks and have validated the trick.

They and I have done this to probably a couple dozen Gen 5's now and we think we hardly ever find a Gen 5 that has any play. With Gen 3s and 4's it could be 50/50.

Just $0.02.




P.S. - Once I got a Gen 4 G35 I didn't get to pick out. It was a GSSF award (random draw ;) ). It had a fair bit of slide play. I didn't get it to group better than about 4" at 25 yds. I had a very tight G31 that shot lights out for precision. I swapped the G35 slide onto the 31's frame and it still had the same amount of play. Led me to conclude it was the difference in the slide/barrel. ???

[davisj]

These guns are shipping. Just received my shipping notice from Grab A Gun. Mine will be here Thursday but I won’t be able to pick it up until Friday.

[Doc_Glock]

If you discount the failures from frangible ammo, which is known to be way less reliable than duty or fmj practice ammo, the MRBS of the Glock Ms tested by the FBI was closer to 110,000 than 11,000.

Are these testing results available publicly?

[Doc_Glock]

I contacted the FBI Ballistic Research Facility a few months back to get their ammunition testing data. They also sent some other documentation including the results of the Glock M pistols from their testing a few years ago. They could not release the data of any other entrants due to contract requirements but they could release the Glock data because Glock won. I had to agree not to release any specific information I received outside of my agency so I’m not sure how many of the specifics of the Glock results I’m allowed to reveal.

I will say that the testing conducted on the pistols was very thorough and substantial and anyone issued one of these pistols or carrying a Gen 5 Glock should have every confidence in their gun.

Nevermind my prior post. Thanks for explanation.

[EVP]

FWIW:


I've posted this a few times here and there. This is how I pick out a Glock that will be an outlier for precision.

Obviously we look for the best trigger when handling multiple copies of the same gun because they do vary gun to gun.

But then, with the trigger reset, I pinch the back of the slide at the rear slide serrations and gripping the gun hard I try to wiggle the slide side to side. If there ANY perceptible play, I don't buy that pistol.

I've pretty much traded off all my Glocks that had any play and only kept or newly acquired those with no play. And this is batting 1000 for me in getting very precise Glocks. Like demonstrated 2" guns vs 3-4" guns (spanning Gen 3 and 4).

I still own one Gen 3 that has some play with the OEM barrel. However when I drop the KKM G17 barrel in it, the play is eliminated.

I've turned a couple of young guys that work at my favorite LGS onto this trick. They are real shooters tracking to the Military. They have applied it when choosing their own Glocks and have validated the trick.

They and I have done this to probably a couple dozen Gen 5's now and we think we hardly ever find a Gen 5 that has any play. With Gen 3s and 4's it could be 50/50.

Just $0.02.




P.S. - Once I got a Gen 4 G35 I didn't get to pick out. It was a GSSF award (random draw ;) ). It had a fair bit of slide play. I didn't get it to group better than about 4" at 25 yds. I had a very tight G31 that shot lights out for precision. I swapped the G35 slide onto the 31's frame and it still had the same amount of play. Led me to conclude it was the difference in the slide/barrel. ???


Just curious, wouldn’t this only show you slide to frame tolerance?

I would think the only way to validate barrel to slide fit would be to take measurements of areas of the barrel/slide that are responsible for lockup on Glocks.

[JHC]

Just curious, wouldn’t this only show you slide to frame tolerance?

I would think the only way to validate barrel to slide fit would be to take measurements of areas of the barrel/slide that are responsible for lockup on Glocks.

IDK. This is just my Glock life hack. Something I can do on the gunshop counter. I've never seen it fail to predict though.

[pew_pew]

This isn’t a 1911. Slide fit has very little to do with accuracy.

[LittleLebowski]

Send all inferior G5 G19s and G19Xs to LL, will provide loving home.

[El Cid]

FWIW, the M guns (which are essentially the same as Gen5) set a new record at the FBI in their pistol testing with a mean rounds between failure of 11,000.

I remember seeing something where they had 1 stoppage in 135,000+ rounds of duty and training ammo. No idea if that was one pistol or spread across several.

[TiroFijo]

I remember seeing something where they had 1 stoppage in 135,000+ rounds of duty and training ammo. No idea if that was one pistol or spread across several.

...I would guess out of a bunch of pistols tested :D

[Super77]

I see this desire all the time and still don't get it. A Glock is not THAT wide that it's difficult to conceal. With a good holster it will be invisible under a t-shirt. My G43 is too skinny to be comfortable but I tolerate that because it can fit in my front pocket as a BUG. If a shooter wants a G19 sized grip, get the TTI +3 extension for the G43. But a single column G19 or G17 seems like a giant step backwards.

Are those TTI extensions reliable? I might have to look into that.

For me a longer slide is more comfortable and better IWB. Plus benefit of longer sight radius and a little more muzzle velocity. A thin frame e.g. G43 width is more comfortable IWB. Glock 19 sized grip is easier to reload without pinching the hand. Factory 10rd magazine is max capacity in some states, factory reliability and factory priced mags. Just me, not saying it would be for everyone.

[JBP55]

I remember seeing something where they had 1 stoppage in 135,000+ rounds of duty and training ammo. No idea if that was one pistol or spread across several.

I put more than 52,000 rounds through a 9mm Gen 4 Glock with zero issues.

[DAVE_M]

Are those TTI extensions reliable? I might have to look into that.

For me a longer slide is more comfortable and better IWB. Plus benefit of longer sight radius and a little more muzzle velocity. A thin frame e.g. G43 width is more comfortable IWB. Glock 19 sized grip is easier to reload without pinching the hand. Factory 10rd magazine is max capacity in some states, factory reliability and factory priced mags. Just me, not saying it would be for everyone.

Prior to the G43, 42, & 19 size extensions, when the G17 extensions were the only thing available, and prior to the spring change, I'd say they were not reliable. I had a few early extensions cause feeding issues. However, everything I've received in the past 2 years for the 17 and my 42 are just dandy. I'd recommend them to anyone.

[secondstoryguy]

Prior to the G43, 42, & 19 size extensions, when the G17 extensions were the only thing available, and prior to the spring change, I'd say they were not reliable. I had a few early extensions cause feeding issues. However, everything I've received in the past 2 years for the 17 and my 42 are just dandy. I'd recommend them to anyone.

Slightly off topic...with the availability of the longer 24 round factory magazine is it worth using extensions?

[feudist]

IDK. This is just my Glock life hack. Something I can do on the gunshop counter. I've never seen it fail to predict though.

I think you should post this as a "challenge" for people to test. Quite a few people on here are both good enough shooters to tell the difference and have large Glock fleets to test.

Science all the things!

[DAVE_M]

Slightly off topic...with the availability of the longer 24 round factory magazine is it worth using extensions?

Yes. Magazine extensions add weight. That is preferable to some. It also makes them drop easier and gives a better purchase.

[El Cid]

Are those TTI extensions reliable? I might have to look into that.

For me a longer slide is more comfortable and better IWB. Plus benefit of longer sight radius and a little more muzzle velocity. A thin frame e.g. G43 width is more comfortable IWB. Glock 19 sized grip is easier to reload without pinching the hand. Factory 10rd magazine is max capacity in some states, factory reliability and factory priced mags. Just me, not saying it would be for everyone.

Mine have been. For the G43 I have +1, 2, and 3. I don’t track rounds through mags but my 2 G43’s each have over 1,000 rounds - no issues.

[fly out]

I'm generally agnostic about Glocks but I have a 45 Bold on the way. Sorry for asking a basic question, but is the Gadget ready for primetime with the G45? Couldn't tell from the website (though admittedly, if I paid more attention to Glocks, I might be able to draw an inference from the information that is there).

[MistWolf]

If Glock really wants to make an impressive change make a 17 slide and 19 frame...

Yes! Just like the other popular long slide/short grip pistol that flies off the dealer's shelves, the umm- the umm...the...ummmm...uh...lessee, what was it called again...?

[LockedBreech]

I haven’t seen a G45 in person, but everything I’ve seen indicates that it’s a Gen5/M gun and I’m 99.9999999% certain that the Gen5 SCD works just fine with it.

Even more great news.

This is rapidly moving into "must-buy" for me - it checks every box I can think of that I've been waiting for.

[O4L]

For those that don't like to click on the links.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180926/4d6828486be02d1b4c8406f04418768b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180926/4381d9ea171ad10743bbe723b6b47570.jpg

[BigT]

Are those TTI extensions reliable? I might have to look into that.

For me a longer slide is more comfortable and better IWB. Plus benefit of longer sight radius and a little more muzzle velocity. A thin frame e.g. G43 width is more comfortable IWB. Glock 19 sized grip is easier to reload without pinching the hand. Factory 10rd magazine is max capacity in some states, factory reliability and factory priced mags. Just me, not saying it would be for everyone.


I've taken all the extensions off my G43 mags and only use factory mag variants on all my Glocks for carry. Had a TTI +3 that was thouroughly vetted and tested give me a malfunction with the carry ammo in it six months or so down the line. Had another +2 that gave issues from the start. They all work fine with ball, but I dont trust them for carry.

[CajunMP357]

On a tangent:

I never knew how infantile the commenters were on TFB until I checked out your link.
Really? I usually just read the articles and move on. I have never really paid attention to the comments section.

[Bucky]

I've taken all the extensions off my G43 mags and only use factory mag variants on all my Glocks for carry. Had a TTI +3 that was thouroughly vetted and tested give me a malfunction with the carry ammo in it six months or so down the line. Had another +2 that gave issues from the start. They all work fine with ball, but I dont trust them for carry.

The only extension I use on my 43 now is the Ghost +2, and only for the reload. I think this is unique and underrated, as it’s not a base pad, but a magazine extension (you actually still use the factory base plate). Closest thing you’ll get to a factory extended magazine. I just feel that 6 round magazine is going to be difficult to reload to under stress.

[JHC]

I think you should post this as a "challenge" for people to test. Quite a few people on here are both good enough shooters to tell the difference and have large Glock fleets to test.

Science all the things!

The experiment design problem comes in the shooting part. ;) Maybe it could be one of the reported observations during the DoW threads. :D

[HeavyDuty]

I haven’t seen a G45 in person, but everything I’ve seen indicates that it’s a Gen5/M gun and I’m 99.9999999% certain that the Gen5 SCD works just fine with it.

I should know in short order, so long as my BL dealer comes through in a timely manner.

[Grey]

I haven’t seen a G45 in person, but everything I’ve seen indicates that it’s a Gen5/M gun and I’m 99.9999999% certain that the Gen5 SCD works just fine with it.In the words if Grand Moff Tarkin, "this had better work..." ill probably cave and ill probably need more SCDs... a win for me and tom?

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[DAVE_M]

I haven’t seen a G45 in person, but everything I’ve seen indicates that it’s a Gen5/M gun and I’m 99.9999999% certain that the Gen5 SCD works just fine with it.

The 19X is also a Gen 5 gun, in a sense. The 19X upper is essentially a Gen 5 19 upper. The only difference is the frame.

[TiroFijo]

I think Glock should standarize on this new G45 bottom front grip profile, and of course in the standard mag baseplates. The halfmoon (aka pinkie pincher) cutout of the Gen 5 should be dropped as well as the stupid front bottom lip of the 19X and its special mag baseplate.

Also standarize on Gen 5 magwells for all models, except the subcompact ones.

If price difference is small, they could offer their entire service sized lineup with MOS cut slides as a standard feature as well. Nobody gets hurt with that, but most people won't use MOS and won't be willing to pay extra for that feature.

Pick any size and color you want, and everything else is compatible.

[HeavyDuty]

I think Glock should standarize on this new G45 bottom front grip profile, and of course in the standard mag baseplates. The halfmoon (aka pinkie pincher) cutout of the Gen 5 should be dropped as well as the stupid front bottom lip of the 19X and its special mag baseplate.

Also standarize on Gen 5 magwells for all models, except the subcompact ones.

If price difference is small, they could offer their entire service sized lineup with MOS cut slides as a standard feature as well. Nobody gets hurt with that, but most people won't use MOS and won't be willing to pay extra for that feature.

Pick any size and color you want, and everything else is compatible.

I provisionally agree with your first point. The 19X is its own animal and can be left alone.

I would really prefer not seeing magwell flares on the subcompacts. Not needed, not a desirable feature for a sub.

Definitely no on the universal MOS. All it offers is convenience, and while I know some people whose opinions I trust think it also unnecessarily weakens the slide my big gripe with it is how they moved the rear sight dovetail closer to the back of the slide - thereby limiting what rear sights will fit without overhang. Feh.

[LockedBreech]

Maybe this is a stupid idea, but I wonder if there is enough variation in Glocks at this point (with what seems like minimal differences in tooling costs given that it's all built and very similar) to have Glock create a "make your own Glock" utility on their website. Choose from Gen 3, 4, 5, and various X/M parts and it'll tell you if your combo is compatible or not.

I'm sure that's a stupid idea for several reasons.

[NickDrak]

Im just over here all excited about the Gen5 G19 MOS ;)

[Texaspoff]

I provisionally agree with your first point. The 19X is its own animal and can be left alone.

I would really prefer not seeing magwell flares on the subcompacts. Not needed, not a desirable feature for a sub.

Definitely no on the universal MOS. All it offers is convenience, and while I know some people whose opinions I trust think it also unnecessarily weakens the slide my big gripe with it is how they moved the rear sight dovetail closer to the back of the slide - thereby limiting what rear sights will fit without overhang. Feh.

I agree as well. Glock needs to work on a standard before things get away from them and they have one of everything.

I like the G45, but have no use for front serrations on a pistol without an optic. I would have really liked to see a G45 without serrations and RDS cuts and an MOS version with serrations.

I know there are a lot of folks that like serrations, myself included on most guns, but the slab sides of the Glock don't lend themselves well to serrations and some duty holsters. The serrations on my 19FS would cause drag on my Safariland ALS internal locking systems. I'm wondering if the G45 will exhibit the same. After all this is a duty specific pistol, and shouldn't have any issues with duty holsters.

I am hoping Safariland will have addressed this issue with the later model ALS holster for the 5th Gens. If not, I would expect that to be a complaint amongst LE anyway. It was the only reason my summer special guns went to new owners.

Since I solved the Black 19X issues early on with my own builds, I really have need for the G45. Two of my four 19X's are black, have no front serrations, and will accept all generations of magazines. I'm glad it is finally out, and it will be a hot seller for sure.



TXPO

[HeavyDuty]

Yup it happened for me too... ordering agent sights from brownells now.

I’m having a hard time finding my usual Ameriglo Hacks in stock, so I may give these a try - I never realized the rear dots didn’t have white rings, so they may have the same goodness for me that the Hacks do.

[GJM]

An interesting thing is the 19X seems much less slippery than a G5 slide. I understand they bead blast before coating, making the slide easier to work, even without forward serrations.

[Grey]

An interesting thing is the 19X seems much less slippery than a G5 slide. I understand they bead blast before coating, making the slide easier to work, even without forward serrations.Yup i can pinch the front of the slide easily to do a press check or rack the slide.

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[WobblyPossum]

While it would be nice to see Glock standardize on one generation, they can’t stop making the Gen 3 guns because those are the last Glocks available for non LE new purchase in California. California is a very large market and not worth sacrificing. They can’t drop the Gen 4 line because there are a lot of people shooting Glocks in calibers other than 9mm. The Gen 5 line doesn’t have anything to replace the .40, .45, 10mm and .357 guns.

[HopetonBrown]

While it would be nice to see Glock standardize on one generation, they can’t stop making the Gen 3 guns because those are the last Glocks available for non LE new purchase in California. California is a very large market and not worth sacrificing.

Ruger and S&W both bounced from CA with their plastic offerings, don't see why Glock would really care all that much if they didn't.

Perhaps Glock still has large contracts with Gen 3 guns that keeps them being made.

[El Cid]

Ruger and S&W both bounced from CA with their plastic offerings, don't see why Glock would really care all that much if they didn't.

Perhaps Glock still has large contracts with Gen 3 guns that keeps them being made.

Take this for what it’s worth - it’s a business trying to sell guns. But they claim Lipseys told them Gen 3 Glocks are being discontinued. The way it reads I can’t tell if they mean just RTF2 guns or all Gen 3’s. Anyone on PF have a contact at Lipseys or Glock?

http://elliscountyfirearms.com/product/glock-17-gen3-rtf-frame-gray-9mm-2mags-pt1750203gf-new/
The highlighted portion.

[Nephrology]

Take this for what it’s worth - it’s a business trying to sell guns. But they claim Lipseys told them Gen 3 Glocks are being discontinued. The way it reads I can’t tell if they mean just RTF2 guns or all Gen 3’s. Anyone on PF have a contact at Lipseys or Glock?

http://elliscountyfirearms.com/product/glock-17-gen3-rtf-frame-gray-9mm-2mags-pt1750203gf-new/
The highlighted portion.

Oh, how badly I wish they had spelled "phased" correctly...

[JAH 3rd]

https://www.edsgunshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11251

[HeavyDuty]

https://www.edsgunshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11251

I hope seeing these pop up all over means my GSSF BL will come through soon, but I’m afraid to get my hopes up. I’m consoling myself by ordering the accessories I need - a Gadget, Ameriglo Agents (as a change of pace from my usual Hacks) and an extended slide stop due to my bum thumb.

[Wondering Beard]

Yup i can pinch the front of the slide easily to do a press check or rack the slide.

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Just wait 'til you have arthritis :-)

It used to be as easy for me as it is for you, but when it flares up, something on the slide with more purchase helps.

[davisj]

I picked mine up today, ordered from GrabAGun and shipped to a local shop.

When I picked it up the local shop was pissed. They were told they couldn’t sell the 7 they have until 10/5/18.

I wasn’t able to take it to the range but I did switch out a few things such as the mag release and sights. My G5 gadget should be delivered Friday and I’m awaiting a JMCK AIWB 2.5 and a Graith Specialist.

I switched back to Glock from a 2.0 Compact. Carrying this around the house in a VG2 I see no issues with concealabity, but then I’m 6’3” and 195#.

[YVK]

I picked mine up today, ordered from GrabAGun and shipped to a local shop.

When I picked it up the local shop was pissed. They were told they couldn’t sell the 7 they have until 10/5/18.




Email from Glockmeister with a G45 ad said the same today, "have them, can't ship them till 5th".

[cjb1911]

Email from Glockmeister with a G45 ad said the same today, "have them, can't ship them till 5th".

Grabagun gives zero effs...

[pew_pew]

Grabagun gives zero effs...

My dealer was posting on Facebook that they had 6 for sale today.

[CajunMP357]

My dealer was posting on Facebook that they had 6 for sale today.

What's the asking price?

[pew_pew]

What's the asking price?

Not sure. Haven’t gone over there yet. I want to get one but not in a rush either.

[davisj]

My SCD was delivered today, a day early...during dry fire the Gen5 SCD works on the G45 as designed. I hope to put some rounds through it in the next few days.

[arcticlightfighter]

Ill try one.

For a duty weapon, I have always liked a full size frame and short slide.

The Beretta Centurion is an excellent example , well balanced and fast out of the holster with the short slide.

Full size grip is also nice for controlling recoil and a full size mag acknowledging the 19 can utilize th 17 mag.

Not too concerned with "sight radius" on a handgun that statistically is going to be utilized under 50' and we consistently train on steel out to 75 yards with handgun

Not a fan of the front serrations but whatever

Im pretty happy with my Gen4 GLOCKs but this interests me

[Lyonsgrid]

Picked mine up today. Blue label price $398.20. If your blue label dealer is charging more, you need to ask them why. Shop has 10 Ameriglo sighted models inbound tomorrow. I've had great luck with several Gen 5 17's and a 19X. The 45 kind of checks all of the boxes for me. The trigger is very nice just like my 19X. Best stock trigger I've ever felt on a new Glock. Hoping to get an RMR installed soon and gets a few thousand rounds down range.

30771

[Savage Hands]

Picked mine up today. Blue label price $398.20. If your blue label dealer is charging more, you need to ask them why. Shop has 10 Ameriglo sighted models inbound tomorrow. I've had great luck with several Gen 5 17's and a 19X. The 45 kind of checks all of the boxes for me. The trigger is very nice just like my 19X. Best stock trigger I've ever felt on a new Glock. Hoping to get an RMR installed soon and gets a few thousand rounds down range.

30771


Blue Label Distributors can afford to charge less than a standard Blue Label Dealer just an FYI...

[HeavyDuty]

Blue Label Distributors can afford to charge less than a standard Blue Label Dealer just an FYI...


I’ve heard that before and believe it is correct.

[Nephrology]

Picked mine up today. Blue label price $398.20. If your blue label dealer is charging more, you need to ask them why. Shop has 10 Ameriglo sighted models inbound tomorrow. I've had great luck with several Gen 5 17's and a 19X. The 45 kind of checks all of the boxes for me. The trigger is very nice just like my 19X. Best stock trigger I've ever felt on a new Glock. Hoping to get an RMR installed soon and gets a few thousand rounds down range.

30771

Definitely going to look into getting one of these and the 19 MOS. I love that they got rid of the cutout on the front strap and really like the forward serrations too. Not likely to happen right away due to other fiscal priorities, but it's definitely on the horizon now.

[ragnar_d]

What's the asking price?

FWIW, I saw them on Big Tex for $619 (no mention of what sights), Buds for $546 (standard sights) and $633 (Ameriglo sights), and Kygunco quoted $607.20 with Ameriglos.


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[scw2]

Blue Label Distributors can afford to charge less than a standard Blue Label Dealer just an FYI...

How does one sort between distributors and dealers when looking to buy on blue label/Gssf?

[Savage Hands]

How does one sort between distributors and dealers when looking to buy on blue label/Gssf?

When you’re already saving $100 or so, does the $20 difference matter?

[JBP55]

How does one sort between distributors and dealers when looking to buy on blue label/Gssf?

A Blue Label Distributor buys directly from Glock and normally sells a small frame Glock for $398.
A Blue Label Dealer buys from a Glock Distributor and normally sells a small frame Glock for $425.
Prices may vary especially at the Dealers.

[scw2]

When you’re already saving $100 or so, does the $20 difference matter?

Fair enough, figured if it was obvious and just as far a drive id go to the distributor, but doesn’t sound like it’s the case

[Savage Hands]

Fair enough, figured if it was obvious and just as far a drive id go to the distributor, but doesn’t sound like it’s the case

For example, the closest distributor is 3 hours away and there’s 3 bl dealers in 20 minutes from me.

[arcticlightfighter]

For those who have an issue with theGen5 slide stops, Vickers has released their slide stop which is low profile

[davisj]

For those who have an issue with theGen5 slide stops, Vickers has released their slide stop which is low profile

Historically the Vickers part has not been low profile and I don’t see that “feature” mentioned on the TangoDown site. I’ve used the Vickers part in the past but so far I’m happy with OEM. Just curious, is your comment concerning low profile from first hand knowledge or did you read it somewhere? If first hand, do you like it better than OEM? Why?

Thanks!

[davisj]

I’m curious which sights have been verified as POA/POI (more or less given bullet weight selected) for the 19X/G45. I recall reading that due to lock up and other variables the Gen5s don’t play well with sights configured for Gen4s.

Traditionally I’ve used Trijicon HD XRs as I prefer a narrow front sight. Now I’m debating whether I even want night sights. Currently I have Dawson adjustables installed (FO front, .105 width and black rear). Thinking I may opt for Dawson Chargers as the adjustables, particularly the taller (.305) front sight interferes with some holsters.

Thoughts and suggestions?

[KeeFus]

Picked mine up today. Blue label price $398.20. If your blue label dealer is charging more, you need to ask them why. Shop has 10 Ameriglo sighted models inbound tomorrow. I've had great luck with several Gen 5 17's and a 19X. The 45 kind of checks all of the boxes for me. The trigger is very nice just like my 19X. Best stock trigger I've ever felt on a new Glock. Hoping to get an RMR installed soon and gets a few thousand rounds down range.

30771

I called Lawmen's in Raleigh today. $425 for standard sights (plastic); $492 for Glock Night Sights; $510 for the Ameriglo bold.

[JHC]

Best stock trigger I've ever felt on a new Glock.

Yeah tell me about it. I just picked through 5 of them and selected one to purchase. They were mirror images of each other in trigger weight and smoothness as well as vault slide to frame fit per my weird Glock life hack I mentioned a couple pages back. Nice trigger. I'll have to get a scale on it soon.



Edit: just over 5 lbs on my RCBS scale measured from a point a third of the way up from the bottom tip of the trigger. Firm and smooth. I may have to eat my words about not recognizing rolling breaks. This might be it.

[arcticlightfighter]

Historically the Vickers part has not been low profile and I don’t see that “feature” mentioned on the TangoDown site. I’ve used the Vickers part in the past but so far I’m happy with OEM. Just curious, is your comment concerning low profile from first hand knowledge or did you read it somewhere? If first hand, do you like it better than OEM? Why?

Thanks!

I haven’t tried it as I sold my Gen 5 17 after numerous malfunctions caused by my support hand palm causing the left side slide stop to engage the slide under recoil causing the slide to lock back on a partial mag. This is no beuno for a serious duty weapon. Sold the Gen 5 and stuck with my Gen 4’s

Link to Vickers partstop/http://https://tangodown.com/shop/vickers-tactical-vtss-003-gen5-slide-stop/ (http://tangodown.com/shop/vickers-tactical-vtss-003-gen5-slide-stop/)

[HeavyDuty]

I stopped by my BL pusher’s today at lunch. My 45 isn’t here yet, but they did have a non-BL that just arrived. It felt great, I find the balance to be significantly different than either a 17 or a 19.

[Mjolnir]

Ruger and S&W both bounced from CA with their plastic offerings, don't see why Glock would really care all that much if they didn't.

Perhaps Glock still has large contracts with Gen 3 guns that keeps them being made.

Except it’s “free” money as they have a largely captive market.


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[davisj]

I shot 132 rounds this evening, 100 Magtech 124 gr and 32 various hollow points. I adjusted the Dawson rear all the way down to hit POA/POI at 17 yards (length of indoor range). I believe I’ll contact Dawson and inquire as to the proper height set for this gun.

As expected, zero issues with the Gen5 SCD.

Very happy with this purchase, now just waiting on my JMCK AIWB 2.5. It will be interesting to see how the Dawson Adjustables ride in the holster until I can settle on a fixed set.

Still curious what sights others are using on Gen5s and the 19X.

[Texaspoff]

I shot 132 rounds this evening, 100 Magtech 124 gr and 32 various hollow points. I adjusted the Dawson rear all the way down to hit POA/POI at 17 yards (length of indoor range). I believe I’ll contact Dawson and inquire as to the proper height set for this gun.

As expected, zero issues with the Gen5 SCD.

Very happy with this purchase, now just waiting on my JMCK AIWB 2.5. It will be interesting to see how the Dawson Adjustables ride in the holster until I can settle on a fixed set.

Still curious what sights others are using on Gen5s and the 19X.


Regular ol' Ameriglo Bolds with yellow/green fronts in .180. I do have one 19X with an FBI U cut rear, but all my 19X's and 5th Gen wear .180 fronts. The .200 that come stock with the 5th Gen guns were regulated to low for me.
https://i.imgur.com/LaNQiDs.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aqt6FWS.jpg?1

These

https://i.imgur.com/Nmr86og.jpg



TXPO

[RJ]

Regular ol' Ameriglo Bolds with yellow/green fronts in .180. I do have one 19X with an FBI U cut rear, but all my 19X's and 5th Gen wear .180 fronts.



My G26.5 and G19.5 both shoot POI=POA (1” square at 7 yd) with 0.180” front sights and stock height rears.

[arcticlightfighter]

So....is the G45 available without the front serrations?

[Mjolnir]

So....is the G45 available without the front serrations?

In a word, no.


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[call_me_ski]

Ruger and S&W both bounced from CA with their plastic offerings, don't see why Glock would really care all that much if they didn't.

Perhaps Glock still has large contracts with Gen 3 guns that keeps them being made.

I don't think you realize how big the CA market is. Due to the roster, the only striker fired 9mm poly guns on the market are the Glock and the original XD. Despite the color of the state Californians buy a lot of guns. Glock has a captive market of 40 million people with the worlds 5th largest GDP when compared to other COUNTRIES. They would be stupid to walk away.

Smith and Ruger had no where near the market share and at least SW was forced off the roster rather SW choosing to walk away. DOJ ruled small in line changes as being a new design, subject to being resubmitted to the roster which newer laws made impossible.

Walther can only sell a couple rimfire SKUs there and is still one of their biggest markets.

[call_me_ski]

So....is the G45 available without the front serrations?

only in brown, and without the magwell, and called the 19x.

[HopetonBrown]

I don't think you realize how big the CA market is.

I do realize. I've lived here 42 years and have been buying guns for 15.

[EVP]

I really like what Glock has done recently with the new Gen 5 guns:

-Most reliable Glock to date
-No major teeting issues such as gen 4 roll out experienced
-Seems to be listening to customers and what they like or want to see.
-Offering Ameriglos installed from factory.


What would make things even better

-a MOS redesign
-more factory sight installed options.


You literally can order a Gen 5 with Bold sights add Gadget and you are good to go. Nice to see Glock getting back to what built their reputation.

[TheNewbie]

I really like what Glock has done recently with the new Gen 5 guns:

-Most reliable Glock to date
-No major teeting issues such as gen 4 roll out experienced
-Seems to be listening to customers and what they like or want to see.
-Offering Ameriglos installed from factory.


What would make things even better

-a MOS redesign
-more factory sight installed options.


You literally can order a Gen 5 with Bold sights add Gadget and you are good to go. Nice to see Glock getting back to what built their reputation.

I wish they would make a NY1 trigger that is compatible with the Gen 5s. NY1/stock connector and paired with a gadget is my favorite Glock setup.

[BigT]

I wish they would make a NY1 trigger that is compatible with the Gen 5s. NY1/stock connector and paired with a gadget is my favorite Glock setup.
They do. Its not called an NY trigger but Glock make a NY style trigger for Gen5. As to US commercial availability ,that I can't tell you about.

[BigT]

I’m curious which sights have been verified as POA/POI (more or less given bullet weight selected) for the 19X/G45. I recall reading that due to lock up and other variables the Gen5s don’t play well with sights configured for Gen4s.

Traditionally I’ve used Trijicon HD XRs as I prefer a narrow front sight. Now I’m debating whether I even want night sights. Currently I have Dawson adjustables installed (FO front, .105 width and black rear). Thinking I may opt for Dawson Chargers as the adjustables, particularly the taller (.305) front sight interferes with some holsters.

Thoughts and suggestions?


Check the sights your particular pistol came with. Assuming factory sights. If it has a 6.5 rear sight which we do see on some Gen5's and shoot where you want it then its the same sight situation as previous 9mm's. If it has a 6.1mm rear sight which is more common on Gen5's (though we've seen batches of Gen4's with more 6.1 rear sights thsn usual) then run the so called Gen5 sights.

My personal G19 Gen5 is from the first batch we got here. Came with 6.5mm rear and shoots exactly POA at 25m with aftermarket "Gen4" sights

[TheNewbie]

They do. Its not called an NY trigger but Glock make a NY style trigger for Gen5. As to US commercial availability ,that I can't tell you about.

Interesting! Can you share any more info?

[Jeff22]

Taking a G17 and cutting the frame to G19 dimensions is a popular modification with some people --

Mist Wolf commented: "Yes! Just like the other popular long slide/short grip pistol that flies off the dealer's shelves, the umm- the umm...the...ummmm...uh...lessee, what was it called again...?"

I've known a couple people that have done that. They have smaller hands than I do and the G19 frame size suited them.

People want what they want, not always for quantifiable reasons and often because they just want to be different. People like what they like, and they don't always know why.

[BigT]

Taking a G17 and cutting the frame to G19 dimensions is a popular modification with some people --

Mist Wolf commented: "Yes! Just like the other popular long slide/short grip pistol that flies off the dealer's shelves, the umm- the umm...the...ummmm...uh...lessee, what was it called again...?"

I've known a couple people that have done that. They have smaller hands than I do and the G19 frame size suited them.

People want what they want, not always for quantifiable reasons and often because they just want to be different. People like what they like, and they don't always know why.


Yup and companies that wish to remain profitable need to make decisions that make money.

A company that is perputally backordered is better served by launching things that will sell in numbers that maximise the bottom line. Long slide short grip guns arent a great investment for large scale manufacturers. The tiny percentage centage of people who want them can make one by cutting a bigger gun. The far greater percentage of consumers who want "Commander" profile guns can't make those.