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willie
07-23-2018, 11:12 PM
Tonight on Stephen Cobert's show Eric Holder announced that he will seek the Democratic presidential nomination.

pangloss
07-23-2018, 11:25 PM
Seems like a very long shot. Given the choice, I might opt for a third Obama term rather than a Holder administration.

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Paul D
07-23-2018, 11:31 PM
Mr. Holder probably meant he is seeking a VP or top cabinet position from whoever beats him out in the primary.

underhook
07-23-2018, 11:51 PM
Please put Holder and Hilary on the same ticket. Please.

Greg
07-23-2018, 11:56 PM
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RoyGBiv
07-24-2018, 06:27 AM
One candidate I'm less likely to vote for than Pocahontas.

I think it'll be between Biden and Booker.

JohnO
07-24-2018, 08:05 AM
https://pics.me.me/weiner-holder-2020-just-in-democratic-challenger-ticket-for-2020-31475070.png

blues
07-24-2018, 08:54 AM
No...no...no...no...no...no


NO!

LittleLebowski
07-24-2018, 08:55 AM
This is great news. Seriously.

blues
07-24-2018, 09:00 AM
This is great news. Seriously.

I take your point...but shit happens and Murphy has a reputation to maintain.

LittleLebowski
07-24-2018, 09:31 AM
I take your point...but shit happens and Murphy has a reputation to maintain.

I'm OK with the Dems forgetting about "flyover country" again. Holder/Cuomo 2020! :D

hufnagel
07-24-2018, 09:31 AM
note to self: switch party affiliations around 2020 election primary time, to help the dems pick the worst of the worst to run against trump. then switch back for the general.

Rex G
07-24-2018, 12:11 PM
note to self: switch party affiliations around 2020 election primary time, to help the dems pick the worst of the worst to run against trump. then switch back for the general.

Another nice thing about Texas; open primary elections, and no need to declare party affiliation, ever. The one party-related limitation is that if one has voted in the primary, and a run-off becomes necessary, one can only vote in the same party’s run-off. I cannot vote in the Demonic-crap primary election, and then vote in the Repugnant-can primary run-off.

JTQ
07-24-2018, 02:56 PM
Another nice thing about Texas; open primary elections, and no need to declare party affiliation, ever.
I think that's a bad way to do business, but I accept Texas' right to do so.

I'm convinced places like New Hampshire (a critical early Primary state), with similar laws, brings in bunches of Democrats to vote in the Republican Primary to screw things up.


hufnagel wote,
...switch party affiliations around 2020 election primary time, to help the dems pick the worst of the worst to run against trump. then switch back for the general.

Trump won New Hampshire, and at the time the media loved him. Get the most unlikely and least Presidential candidate to win the Primary, and then cream him in the general election. However, as blues commented above, and Trump proved, Murphy is still around.

I spent my whole adult life as a registered Independent, from my initial Presidential vote for Gerald Ford, until a couple of years ago when I changed my party affiliation to Republican. I finally realized states need to enact voting laws like Florida where you can only vote in a primary if you are registered with the party. You can't have non-club members voting to put people in a club they don't belong to. That's just messed up.

blues
07-24-2018, 03:07 PM
I think that's a bad way to do business, but I accept Texas' right to do so.

I'm convinced places like New Hampshire (a critical early Primary state), with similar laws, brings in bunches of Democrats to vote in the Republican Primary to screw things up.


Trump won New Hampshire, and at the time the media loved him. Get the most unlikely and least Presidential candidate to win the Primary, and then cream him in the general election. However, as blues commented above, and Trump proved, Murphy is still around.

I spent my whole adult life as a registered Independent, from my initial Presidential vote for Gerald Ford, until a couple of years ago when I changed my party affiliation to Republican. I finally realized states need to enact voting laws like Florida where you can only vote in a primary if you are registered with the party. You can't have non-club members voting to put people in a club they don't belong to. That's just messed up.

You make a good point. I've been an independent my whole life as well, and I've considered what you've already done...but haven't done it (yet).
May have to at some point...assuming I can find a candidate worth supporting.

Mark D
07-24-2018, 03:11 PM
note to self: switch party affiliations around 2020 election primary time, to help the dems pick the worst of the worst to run against trump. then switch back for the general.

Somebody I know (cough) registered as a dem in 2016 to vote for Bernie in the primary. My friend (cough) figured that if Bernie won the dem primary, he'd be easier than Hillary to defeat in the general election.

In hindsight, probably a wasted effort. And perhaps misguided, considering the dangers of Bernie's socialist platform.

JTQ
07-24-2018, 03:31 PM
You make a good point. I've been an independent my whole life as well, and I've considered what you've already done...but haven't done it (yet).
May have to at some point...assuming I can find a candidate worth supporting.
Over all those years, I didn't always vote for the Republican candidate for President (Ross Perot - my bad, but I'm sure Bill Clinton thanks me, so I've got that going for me), but I never voted for the Democratic candidate. I wasn't really pleased with McCain or Romney as the nominees, so I finally decided I needed to become part of the solution. Of course Trump was probably my 17th choice out of the Republican candidates and didn't vote for him in the primary, but I did vote for him in the general election.

Joe in PNG
07-24-2018, 05:55 PM
Prediction- Holder will fold before Iowa.

Drang
07-27-2018, 06:53 PM
This is great news. Seriously.

I still pray that the DNC will have a sudden rush of blood to the head and put up James Webb.

Kyle Reese
07-27-2018, 06:54 PM
I still pray that the DNC will have a sudden rush of blood to the head and put up James Webb.

I’d like to see them run Mondale or Dukakis again.


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Drang
07-27-2018, 06:57 PM
I’d like to see them run Mondale or Dukakis again.

In a race between Trump and Webb I would have made my first vote for a Democrat Presidential candidate.

FNFAN
07-27-2018, 07:27 PM
I’d like to see them run Mondale or Dukakis again.


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No way! Waters & Warren as the Democratic Nominees!

JTQ
07-27-2018, 07:27 PM
I still pray that the DNC will have a sudden rush of blood to the head and put up James Webb.
I need to get a recording of the first Democratic debate of the 2016 election cycle, which I think was the only one Webb participated in and save it for posterity. The look on Webb's face, standing there watching the other three (Clinton, O'Malley, and Sanders) try to out socialist each other was sad/painful/telling. I think that debate convinced Webb the Democratic party had lost its' way, and he couldn't represent the party, and they wouldn't select him, the way it is heading. Webb is what the pre-1970ish Democrats were, which is pretty similar to today's Republicans.

I'm convinced Jack Kennedy couldn't get out of a Republican primary today as the media would label him as an out of touch, nut-job, ultra conservative. I mean, who would say something like "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

The media constantly portrays the Republicans as rapidly shifting far to the right. The truth is the Democratic party has moved so far to the left it just makes the Republicans, who have begrudgingly slide a bit left themselves seem so conservative.

idahojess
07-27-2018, 09:49 PM
http://youtu.be/g9Po7iXYdJw

From February 2009 -- during fast and furious. (I'm sure everyone remembers, but nice to have video).