Safariland ALS, The "nub"

[03RN]

https://www.otdefense.com/nub-mod-for-als.html

I just received mine. I might need to order a few more for all of my ALS holsters. I don't see any downsides and it's much easier to disengage.

I've got a 3 gun comp on Sunday so I'll have some more testing then. It's supposed to be raining so it might be a good day to use it.

[peterb]

Interesting. When I’m carrying OWB I’m more worried about losing my pistol to bumps, falls, or branches than to hostile hands. Might be useful when wearing gloves. Will have to spend more time with my ALS and think about it.

[JustOneGun]

Just to make sure I understand how the nub works: one has to push forward to release the pistol? If so does the tension have to be maintained until the pistol is slightly drawn? If that's not right then ignore the rest of this post because I misread it.

Before I used the ALS I used the dreaded hood release. That pushing forward caused inconsistent grips from time to time. If the Nub has to be held forward while drawing I fear the same dynamic might occur?

I know people with smaller hands had problems from time to time with the ALS being inconsistent release. It would bind up because they couldn't get the right tension on it. But those were people with very tiny hands. As for most people the ALS is fantastic because once the web of the hand is high on the backstrap the hyper-extended thumb is sitting right on the release. So tightening the grip releases the pistol every time. Very intuitive and by far the best police holster I used in my career. Of course I've been a retired has-been for quite a few years so there might be much better by now. LOL.

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Just to make sure I understand how the nub works: one has to push forward to release the pistol? If so does the tension have to be maintained until the pistol is slightly drawn? If that's not right then ignore the rest of this post because I misread it.The Nub is just a bigger button to actuate the ALS mechanism with, there's no change otherwise, AFAIK.

[JustOneGun]

The Nub is just a bigger button to actuate the ALS mechanism with, there's no change otherwise, AFAIK.


I misunderstood completely then. I could have swore they said you can push against it and release the pistol sooner. Oh well. I'm getting old. Hehehe. My apologies.

[SamuelBLong]

The Nub is just a bigger button to actuate the ALS mechanism with, there's no change otherwise, AFAIK.

This is correct. No change to actuation, just a larger more positive surface.

I run these at work. My opinion is that they’re a worthwhile addition.


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[03RN]

I misunderstood completely then. I could have swore they said you can push against it and release the pistol sooner. Oh well. I'm getting old. Hehehe. My apologies.

It's bigger and wider but not overly so. It does allow extra leverage and it seems easier to disengage.

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[Wake27]

I’ve been happy with the one for my 1911. The extra material to cover the thumb safety made it hard for me to disengage so it’s been a solid addition there. Really haven’t felt the need for it in my Glock or M&P holsters though.


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[Erick Gelhaus]

I've used it with both Glock and M&P duty holsters. I'm pretty happy with it and will continue to use it - absent something radically changing my mind.

[HeavyDuty]

Interesting. I’ve been using 637x ALS holsters for years (not uniform carry, though) and have never had an issue with the size of the release button. This might be one of those things you have to try to fully appreciate. However, I suspect it would preclude use of my usual accessory for these holsters - the 6006 ALS guard.

[DC_P]

I misunderstood completely then. I could have swore they said you can push against it and release the pistol sooner. Oh well. I'm getting old. Hehehe. My apologies.

"Faster:

The reversed angle matches up with the pad of your thumb sooner than the factory button. "

I read this part and thought the same as you. Looks like an interesting mod, but $25 seems high for such a small piece of plastic...

[03RN]

"Faster:

The reversed angle matches up with the pad of your thumb sooner than the factory button. "

I read this part and thought the same as you. Looks like an interesting mod, but $25 seems high for such a small piece of plastic...

It's aluminum

[03RN]

Interesting. I’ve been using 637x ALS holsters for years (not uniform carry, though) and have never had an issue with the size of the release button. This might be one of those things you have to try to fully appreciate. However, I suspect it would preclude use of my usual accessory for these holsters - the 6006 ALS guard.

It's less of an issue with non 1911 holsters. It surprisingly awesome on the 1911 one.

[Magsz]

I ran my SLS nub mod through new hire firearms training at my agency a little more than two years ago.

It was an absolute, abject failure. The serrations on the SLS nub mod were just irritating and at one point, the skin on my thumb actually had three "cuts" that lined up with the serrations/ridges on the nub. I have pretty rough hands and dry skin so i dont think the nub cut me, i think the continued wear of drawing essentially caused my skin to crack.

I LIKED the idea behind the mod but the company needs to produce a slick nub for the SLS series of safariland holsters. There is really zero reason to have those ridges cut on the piece.

Just a little something for end users to consider before buying.

[Casey]

The ALS-only Nub Mod does not have the grooves found on the SLS/ALS Nub. I have one installed on a 7TS ALS-only, which works great, and I cannot imagine getting any benefit from having a grooved surface.

[03RN]

Agreed, as my pics on pg 1 show. No grooves.

[03RN]

It's almost like there is no release at all. There were a couple stages on Sunday with running. I noticed a lot of guys holding their guns in place. I was able to run without concern.

[GJM]

It's almost like there is no release at all. There were a couple stages on Sunday with running. I noticed a lot of guys holding their guns in place. I was able to run without concern.

Nothing about an open gun inspires confidence in running.

[Magsz]

The ALS-only Nub Mod does not have the grooves found on the SLS/ALS Nub. I have one installed on a 7TS ALS-only, which works great, and I cannot imagine getting any benefit from having a grooved surface.

Unfortunately, I do not believe the ALS nub will work with the SLS holster hood. There isn't enough clearance.

[Gio]

I've tried a couple of these at work on other people's holsters and I like them a lot. I'm also struggling with the $25 price...for one holster that's fine, but I'm going to have to drop about $100 to outfit all my ALS holsters if I go this route.

[DC_P]

I am considering trying this but have a question for people who have used it:

I have two ALS holsters, one for a USPc and one for a VP9. For some reason the VP9 is less consistent to release for me. If I make sure to activate the lever fully, no problems, but when I try to draw faster I sometimes (maybe 15% of the time) don't get a release of the retention. I NEVER have this problem with the USP. Not sure if this is down to the design of the gun/holster, but the VP9 seems to require further movement of the release lever.

The question is, does this mod change the travel required to release the retention?

[GJM]

My wife and I got these for our 7TS holsters in use with Glock and HK VP9 pistols. Work great, and more on the way!

[jlw]

Unfortunately, I do not believe the ALS nub will work with the SLS holster hood. There isn't enough clearance.

They offer a version that works with the SLS hood.

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I bought two of these: one for an ALS holster and one to work with the ALS/SLS combo. I like the ALS only version. I forgot that I had given my ALS/SLS holster to one of the deputies...

I'll probably just put it on one of my other ALS holsters.

[GJM]

My wife has another neat accessory that she often uses in conjunction with the Nub.

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[03RN]

Lol...

[Artemas2]

Just received/installed mine on a SLS/ALS 7Ts After working some dry reps, the times on my average draw to a sight picture are down from 1.3 to 1.0. More valuable to me is the reduction (so far elimination) in fumbled draws from either missing the ALS button or pressing it improperly.

My concern is that it feels like I have effectively disabled a level of retention on my holster.

[Flamingo]

Just received/installed mine on a SLS/ALS 7Ts After working some dry reps, the times on my average draw to a sight picture are down from 1.3 to 1.0. More valuable to me is the reduction (so far elimination) in fumbled draws from either missing the ALS button or pressing it improperly.

My concern is that it feels like I have effectively disabled a level of retention on my holster.

You should pressure test it and find out. I think I am going to try one of these out. I have two 7T holsters and I will set one up with it and one with out and get with one of the DT guys from my department and see if there is any difference.