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Mack
04-25-2018, 01:00 PM
As some of you may know we are hard at work on launching a line of EDC gear. This line is called Graith and will feature an array of non-holster EDC gear. In an effort to continually streamline our process and provide the best and most convenient shopping experience possible the Specialist will be sold as a Graith product.

It will be the same Specialist that is currently being sold under Mastermind, however there will be more color options. One of the cool things about Graith is that it will make it easier to have special editions and limited production runs so it will give us more flexibility to come up with more great variations of the Specialist. It will allow us to create limited edition runs of different colors, contrasting threads, brass, nickel, or even perhaps painted buckles.

The Graith Specialist is slated to become available for sale in the next coming days as we hope to have a very bare bones Graith site operational as soon as we can. The Graith line will be linked to on the Mastermind site so it will be easy to find and use and will allow for a more streamlined shopping experience for both holsters and our belts and other EDC gear.

Some of the colors to look forward to initially with the Graith Specialist are Ranger Green, Coyote, and MultiCam

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Mack
04-25-2018, 01:00 PM
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OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
04-25-2018, 05:43 PM
Good to hear, thx for the update on the new happenings & after seeing the black MC in that pic. I see why Hizzie & others bought it, hmmm ..............

anthonymax007
04-26-2018, 01:29 PM
Any idea when the ranger green will be available? Cancelled my order on the grey Specialist after I saw you were releasing additional colors.

Mack
04-26-2018, 01:38 PM
Any idea when the ranger green will be available? Cancelled my order on the grey Specialist after I saw you were releasing additional colors.

We are hopeful that at some-point this evening Graith Specialists will be available for purchase with all the new color options, we will keep everyone posted.

Mack
04-26-2018, 07:05 PM
We are very happy to say that Graith Specialist Belts are now live and available for purchase. The new Graith site can be accessed from the link below or is very easy to navigate to from www.mastermindtactics.com.

In addition to the added color options for the Graith Specialist we now offer a one week lead time on all Specialist belts!

The new Graith shop:

https://www.graithusa.com/shop/

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feudist
04-26-2018, 08:23 PM
Ordered a coyote.

anthonymax007
04-26-2018, 11:10 PM
Just ordered a Ranger Green. Thanks!

Mack
04-27-2018, 09:47 AM
Ordered a coyote.


Just ordered a Ranger Green. Thanks!

Thank you both and thanks to everyone who has placed a Graith Specialist order!

farscott
04-27-2018, 12:33 PM
How does one get a buckle with the Morgan silver dollar?

Mack
04-27-2018, 02:53 PM
How does one get a buckle with the Morgan silver dollar?

Ha, special edition perhaps :D Extra points for knowing it was a Morgan dollar.

OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
04-27-2018, 06:55 PM
As I've been wearing my long time owned Wilderness 5 stitch in the EDC rotation (normally matches only) I followed the wheel gun master (aka Hizzie) & ordered a MC black on Wed.

Mack
04-29-2018, 10:16 AM
As I've been wearing my long time owned Wilderness 5 stitch in the EDC rotation (normally matches only) I followed the wheel gun master (aka Hizzie) & ordered a MC black on Wed.

We have had a lot of customers switch from an instructor/rigger style belt to the Specialist and have been quite happy, you also can't go wrong with MultiCam Black. Thanks again for the support!

Mack
04-29-2018, 10:17 AM
As I've been wearing my long time owned Wilderness 5 stitch in the EDC rotation (normally matches only) I followed the wheel gun master (aka Hizzie) & ordered a MC black on Wed.

We have had a lot of customers switch from an instructor/rigger style belt to the Specialist and have been quite happy, you also can't go wrong with MultiCam Black. Thanks again for the support!

Mack
04-29-2018, 12:13 PM
Some of the very first Graith Specialist belts are getting finished up today. Orders placed on Thursday and Friday are scheduled to go out on Monday!

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OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
04-30-2018, 12:26 PM
Well a decent week just got even better as the email update Sun. from MT (w/ tr. #) has enabled me to see my black MC Specialist will be delivered on 3 May.

Thank ya Chris/Mack, MT is clearly on top of things & now waiting to see more info. on the soon to be released new wallet hmmmm ..........

Mack
04-30-2018, 02:04 PM
Well a decent week just got even better as the email update Sun. from MT (w/ tr. #) has enabled me to see my black MC Specialist will be delivered on 3 May.

Thank ya Chris/Mack, MT is clearly on top of things & now waiting to see more info. on the soon to be released new wallet hmmmm ..........

We will be updating the wallet thread frequently this week and more pictures and info will follow. We are pretty excited for the Strike Face Wallet and hope to have it available as soon as possible.

Hizzie
04-30-2018, 04:18 PM
Mine arrived safely. Love the Multicam Black. Stitching looks great. I wear 36 pants and ordered 38 belt. Without holster/mag pouch I am practically at the minimum the belt goes. With holster/mag pouch I still have plenty of room.

dontshakepandas
05-01-2018, 10:10 AM
Well, I tried to resist but I caved and ordered one this morning. I love my current Cobra buckle belt but feel like I could really use something lower profile since I have so much stuff on the front of my belt and don't like moving the buckle to the side/back.

Mack
05-01-2018, 10:32 AM
Mine arrived safely. Love the Multicam Black. Stitching looks great. I wear 36 pants and ordered 38 belt. Without holster/mag pouch I am practically at the minimum the belt goes. With holster/mag pouch I still have plenty of room.

I know we have said it before but the MultiCam Black has been a very popular color option for the Specialist, we are glad to see that people are liking the expanded color options and that you are liking your Specialist so far.


Well, I tried to resist but I caved and ordered one this morning. I love my current Cobra buckle belt but feel like I could really use something lower profile since I have so much stuff on the front of my belt and don't like moving the buckle to the side/back.

Thanks for the order! The Specialist should provide you the most usable re-estate up front and won't require to offset the buckle to get it out of the way.

TAZ
05-01-2018, 02:02 PM
Mac,

Whats the overlap in the sizes? Im kind of between sizes and thankfully getting smaller. Not quite able to make a 36 pants work. 38 fits as does 40 depending on cut. Would a 38 be able to bridge that gap?

Mack
05-01-2018, 02:22 PM
Mac,

What’s the overlap in the sizes? I’m kind of between sizes and thankfully getting smaller. Not quite able to make a 36 pants work. 38 fits as does 40 depending on cut. Would a 38 be able to bridge that gap?

Our general sizing recommendations are to select a belt size that is two inches (2”) larger than your average pants size (the size pants you would normally wear with all of your carry gear). For example if you wear size 38 pants with your carry gear choose a size 40 belt. If you can wear both 38 and 40 a size 40 belt should work for you. The actual adjustment range is approximately 2" in either direction from the marked size of the belt.

If you have any other questions about sizing please feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail and we can make sure to get you into the proper size.

Thanks!

RevolverRob
05-01-2018, 04:44 PM
I may well order a Graith in grey in the near future. But for anyone on the fence, I've been using a Mastermind version for months now. I like it very much and wear it daily. I find it works well, perhaps better, than a double-ring Wilderness, with less stretch.

Mack
05-01-2018, 06:04 PM
I may well order a Graith in grey in the near future. But for anyone on the fence, I've been using a Mastermind version for months now. I like it very much and wear it daily. I find it works well, perhaps better, than a double-ring Wilderness, with less stretch.

We are glad to hear that your Specialist is working out well for you. Thanks for taking the time to post in the thread and share your experience with the belt. Thanks again for the support!

SouthNarc
05-02-2018, 04:28 PM
Got my new one in and it's money! Special color way because I'm....special.

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blues
05-02-2018, 04:44 PM
Got my new one in and it's money! Special color way because I'm....special.

It's true...you do make more of a bella figura...

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/d7549497-6062-4338-a4d7-d5fa3dce3b61

JAD
05-02-2018, 05:08 PM
Ordered. Just as a thought, I wish your websites shared shopping carts -- I would have thrown in a mag carrier for the heck of it.

SouthNarc
05-02-2018, 05:28 PM
It's true...you do make more of a bella figura...

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/d7549497-6062-4338-a4d7-d5fa3dce3b61

That is my nature!

Mack
05-03-2018, 07:23 AM
Got my new one in and it's money! Special color way because I'm....special.

Looking good!


Ordered. Just as a thought, I wish your websites shared shopping carts -- I would have thrown in a mag carrier for the heck of it.

Thanks for the order! Unfortunately we do not have the ability to combine shopping carts between sites however if orders are placed on both we will ship them together and all orders ship free on both.

Shumba
05-03-2018, 07:31 AM
I wore my new black multi cam all day yesterday, with a G19 in a Perun holster and a single mag carrier.
Elegant buckle, plenty stiff for what I had on and very comfortable.
Draws were fine with minimal flex.
Sizing was generous but I carry OWB. My next one will be one size smaller.
Completely satisfied in all respects.
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Mack
05-03-2018, 12:13 PM
I wore my new black multi cam all day yesterday, with a G19 in a Perun holster and a single mag carrier.
Elegant buckle, plenty stiff for what I had on and very comfortable.
Draws were fine with minimal flex.
Sizing was generous but I carry OWB. My next one will be one size smaller.
Completely satisfied in all respects.
Shumba

We are happy to hear that your Specialist arrived safely and you are liking it! Thanks for taking time out of your day to post in the thread and for your support.

Crews
05-03-2018, 02:43 PM
Does this version offer any more horizontal stiffness than your original belt with the same type buckle? I bought one when they first came out, cant remember what it was called. Maybe Minimalist? Anywho, I wear it often and love the low profile and way it pushes the wing claw in. However, it is just flexible enough to let the grip side of the gun sag, which makes the holster dig in a little bit.


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Mack
05-04-2018, 09:53 AM
Does this version offer any more horizontal stiffness than your original belt with the same type buckle? I bought one when they first came out, cant remember what it was called. Maybe Minimalist? Anywho, I wear it often and love the low profile and way it pushes the wing claw in. However, it is just flexible enough to let the grip side of the gun sag, which makes the holster dig in a little bit.


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It is hard to say without knowing which belt you have as at one point we made similar looking belts with different stiffness levels. It is unlikely that there will be any significant difference in rigidity, the Graith Specialist will have a slight amount of increased rigidity as it is conctructed differently than previous belts and has mil-spec webbing on the entire exterior of the belt.

OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
05-04-2018, 10:09 AM
We are happy to hear that your Specialist arrived safely and you are liking it! Thanks for taking time out of your day to post in the thread and for your support.

Add me to the list now, received my black MC Specialist Thrs. & it seems to fit my EDC needs very nicely, well done indeed Chris.

Mack
05-04-2018, 01:50 PM
Add me to the list now, received my black MC Specialist Thrs. & it seems to fit my EDC needs very nicely, well done indeed Chris.

Thank you! We are happy to hear that it is working for you.

Clusterfrack
05-04-2018, 07:58 PM
Another satisfied belt wearer. 32 waist, 34 black Multicam belt fits perfectly. I like how the low profile buckle slips through belt loops so I can clear space for a clinch pick.

Stiffness on this one is just right for AIWB carry, similar to my other favorite, the Wilderness Frequent Flier.

Mack
05-06-2018, 10:41 AM
Another satisfied belt wearer. 32 waist, 34 black Multicam belt fits perfectly. I like how the low profile buckle slips through belt loops so I can clear space for a clinch pick.

Stiffness on this one is just right for AIWB carry, similar to my other favorite, the Wilderness Frequent Flier.

We are happy to hear that the Specialist belt is working for you! Thanks for taking time to post and for the support!

dontshakepandas
05-07-2018, 05:35 PM
I got my specialist belt in the mail today and my first impression is really good. I love the gray color and the stiffness seems to be just right. The buckle is small enough to keep in front and still have room for my appendix holster, appendix mag carrier, and a small fixed blade knife between them.

The only thing I'd change so far is that I'd really prefer a black buckle, but I like this one more than I thought I would and nobody sees it anyways.

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Paul D
05-07-2018, 10:20 PM
I got my belt today also. It looks great and build quality appears excellent. I have another belt that is of the same design concept but with another maker. The Specialist Belt is much better; plus I love the color options. Will buy again.

Mack
05-08-2018, 11:17 AM
I got my specialist belt in the mail today and my first impression is really good. I love the gray color and the stiffness seems to be just right. The buckle is small enough to keep in front and still have room for my appendix holster, appendix mag carrier, and a small fixed blade knife between them.

The only thing I'd change so far is that I'd really prefer a black buckle, but I like this one more than I thought I would and nobody sees it anyways.

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Thanks again for the support!

You may see more options in the way of buckle color at some point in the future.

We have explored the idea of a flat black Specialist buckle however it needs to be custom made and that is pretty expensive.

We decided that adding more color options to the belt (it is costly to offer new colorways) took precedence over changing the buckle color as the new washed gunmetal buckle has been very well received.

We will certainly keep everyone updated if/when additional buckle options are available.



I got my belt today also. It looks great and build quality appears excellent. I have another belt that is of the same design concept but with another maker. The Specialist Belt is much better; plus I love the color options. Will buy again.

Thanks for the compliment on the construction quality of the Specialist, we are happy to hear that you are liking it and thanks for taking time to post about your experience with it.

jwperry
05-08-2018, 03:43 PM
Umm, you guys quoted 2 weeks for my Specialist belt. I had it in 4 days. My wife wasn't on vacation yet! :)

Sizing is appropriate, I look forward to wearing it around to test it out.

Clusterfrack
05-08-2018, 03:51 PM
Id like buckle color options also. A raw brass finish (that would patina) would be nice.

Mack
05-08-2018, 04:56 PM
Umm, you guys quoted 2 weeks for my Specialist belt. I had it in 4 days. My wife wasn't on vacation yet! :)

Sizing is appropriate, I look forward to wearing it around to test it out.

We are happy to hear your Specialist made it to you without issue. We try our best to get orders out ahead of our stated lead time whenever possible. Thanks again!


Id like buckle color options also. A raw brass finish (that would patina) would be nice.

Brass is certainly doable because it does not require a custom production run to produce. We can make Specialists with both natural brass and antique brass buckles. Brass and Multicam pair together nicely and was something that we were thinking about for a limited production run. We have been wanting to do something with natural brass buckles but were unsure how well they would be received.

SouthNarc
05-08-2018, 08:07 PM
We are happy to hear your Specialist made it to you without issue. We try our best to get orders out ahead of our stated lead time whenever possible. Thanks again!



Brass is certainly doable because it does not require a custom production run to produce. We can make Specialists with both natural brass and antique brass buckles. Brass and Multicam pair together nicely and was something that we were thinking about for a limited production run. We have been wanting to do something with natural brass buckles but were unsure how well they would be received.



I bet natural brass and coyote would look good.

Mack
05-09-2018, 03:05 PM
If more people would like a brass buckle we can look into making our first limited edition Graith Specialist with a brass buckle, interested to hear what everyone thinks.

Mack
05-11-2018, 12:19 PM
MultiCam restock.

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OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
05-11-2018, 01:04 PM
Damn it Mack quit doing that, very tempting to add another Specialist in MC for match ‘n class time & it could accompany my un-shipped wallet, hmmmm ......

dontshakepandas
05-11-2018, 05:09 PM
I think a brass buckle would look really cool. It isn't really my style but I think you'd sell quite a few of them.

If you ever offer the flat black buckle I'll probably order a gray one and a multicam black one.

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leathermaneod
05-13-2018, 09:06 PM
Just ordered my second Specialist. My original one is black, but I wanted something more colorful for my second one, so I ordered coyote :-) looking forward to seeing it in person!

I really like the current buckle, not sure if other colors would interest me or not....Id have to see it.

I am curious though, what happened to the other belts?

ETA: Also, what happen to the option to order pull the dot loops as an accessory?


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JAD
05-13-2018, 09:49 PM
I received mine recently and had a chance to wear it last night and today. It supported a G17 and on a separate occasion a G43 very well and I am pleased with it. Its an AIWB belt for me so colors are not important the shirt always covers it but it has a really good stiffness to it, enough but not too much.

Duke
05-13-2018, 09:50 PM
I got mine this week.


Fit is except for the size expected and its the perfect mix of stiff/flexible.

Thank you

Mack
05-14-2018, 12:09 PM
Just ordered my second Specialist. My original one is black, but I wanted something more colorful for my second one, so I ordered coyote :-) looking forward to seeing it in person!

I really like the current buckle, not sure if other colors would interest me or not....Id have to see it.

I am curious though, what happened to the other belts?

Thanks for the support, we appreciate it! The Specialist in Coyote looks pretty cool, especially with the gun-metal buckle, it is a nice color combo.

The Specialist has become more popular than we imagined it would be and to keep up with production we are not able to keep some of the other models around.

OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
05-14-2018, 02:21 PM
Damn it Mack quit doing that, very tempting to add another Specialist in MC for match n class time & it could accompany my un-shipped wallet, hmmmm ......

Never liked turds that quoted themselves (insert me now) but a good week just got mo better as I received a tr. # for my wallet, so much for adding another Specialist to the wallet box.

farscott
05-14-2018, 04:11 PM
Ordered one black and one coyote Specialist belt, so I will have three. That should cover my needs.

Mack
05-15-2018, 12:22 PM
Never liked turds that quoted themselves (insert me now) but a good week just got mo better as I received a tr. # for my wallet, so much for adding another Specialist to the wallet box.

With site-wide free shipping on all Graith products you'll never have to worry about shipping costs :)


Ordered one black and one coyote Specialist belt, so I will have three. That should cover my needs.

Coyote is always a good call. Thanks again for your continued support!

blues
05-15-2018, 12:28 PM
Coyote is always a good call.

http://everythingoutdoorsca.weebly.com/uploads/2/6/5/7/26577464/680417.jpg?368

"I see what you did there!"

Guerrero
05-15-2018, 01:09 PM
http://everythingoutdoorsca.weebly.com/uploads/2/6/5/7/26577464/680417.jpg?368

"I see what you did there!"

That joke is a howl.

SouthNarc
05-15-2018, 03:52 PM
Guys if you're FB friends with me I just a live vid featuring The Specialist prominently.

blues
05-15-2018, 04:06 PM
Guys if you're FB friends with me I just a live vid featuring The Specialist prominently.

Craig, what about us non-facebookers? Any other place to see the vid?

SouthNarc
05-15-2018, 05:15 PM
Craig, what about us non-facebookers? Any other place to see the vid?


Uuuuuuhh...shit blues I'm not sure how to do that since it was an FB live vid. Lemme find a nerd and see if he knows how.

blues
05-15-2018, 07:05 PM
Uuuuuuhh...shit blues I'm not sure how to do that since it was an FB live vid. Lemme find a nerd and see if he knows how.

No worries, brother. Don't go to any trouble. I just wanted to catch my favorite bella figura in full sartorial splendor. ;)

orionz06
05-15-2018, 08:45 PM
No worries, brother. Don't go to any trouble. I just wanted to catch my favorite bella figura in full sartorial splendor. ;)

https://www.facebook.com/martin.riggs.33/videos/1817757491621065/?comment_id=1817813231615491&notif_id=1526428912300538&notif_t=like_tagged&ref=notif

blues
05-15-2018, 09:25 PM
https://www.facebook.com/martin.riggs.33/videos/1817757491621065/?comment_id=1817813231615491&notif_id=1526428912300538&notif_t=like_tagged&ref=notif

Thanks, Tom.

Nicely done, Craig. I can see a new career opportunity for you as a hand model. :cool:

Seriously though, that was an excellent demonstration of what works and what doesn't...and why. Well done.

overton
05-16-2018, 12:45 AM
Craig, thanks for the vid! Could you explain fitting pants for concealment a bit further? Never really thought of that

SouthNarc
05-16-2018, 08:29 AM
Craig, thanks for the vid! Could you explain fitting pants for concealment a bit further? Never really thought of that

Sure buddy!

Think of it in terms of a band of tension that runs the circumference of your body around the mid-line. Most people rely on the belt alone to keep things secure and in place, so we're talking about a band of tension that is at most 1.75" in width...usually 1.5". If we carry outside the waist-band then of course we can only rely on the belt itself for support. As you start adding more and more gear you need more and more width and lateral rigidity to maintain support. The most obvious example of this is a standard police duty belt which is usually 2.25" in width and historically made of thick leather. Also the heaviest items on the police duty belt are usually the handgun itself and the portable radio and most guys wear those on the opposing hips at 3 and 9 o'clock. 3 and 9 also is where one has the thickest, most supportive muscle around the waist line.

So when we push the gear forward of the thickest, most supportive muscle...into the centerline usually between 10 and 2...we lose structural support afforded by the body. When that gear goes inside the pants now at best we can usually run a 1.75" belt. So we're losing quite a bit of width afforded by a duty belt AND the gear is not supported by muscle.

The last part of this shit-show are the pants themselves and probably the most overlooked part of the puzzle. Most dudes wear pants that don't fit. Period. They are loose, saggy around the hips, ass, and waist and will fall down if they aren't wearing a belt. Guys usually think they need "freedom of movement' or a gusset or some shit like that to carry a handgun. Like they're climbing Everest. Or....they're given poor advice like "buy your pants 2" larger in the waist than you normally do to accommodate the gear". I'm sure everyone here has probably heard or given someone that advice.

So with loose saggy pants that offer no tension around the hips, thighs, ass and abdomen....a rigid narrow belt that won't contour around the holster, mag pouches and knife sheaths....and no structural support offered between 10-2....most people I see carrying gear forward of the hip points do so....poorly. I had a kid in class recently wearing trousers that were probably 36" in the waist line and he may have been a natural 32". He was wearing an Aegis and a wide ass Eidolon and I could literally shove my entire hand down the front of his pants in the gap that was between his abdomen and the holster. And after the thumb knuckle we know it's a fist....

And he's not the only one. This is common and that's why I felt compelled to do the video. Good appendix carry holsters are a relatively new development ( early 2000's). Appendix carry itself is not new. In the early days of body worn video ('96) the ONLY way to carry a gun, a .5 watt body wire, and a Sony 8mm clamshell recorder with power sources for all that shit plus mics and the actual board cameras them selves was in a belly band inside the pants. The belly band was/is wide.

So....by wearing pants that fit snugly around the hips, thighs, ass and waist AND having a belt that is flexible enough to contour around the gear and pull it into the abdomen which is less supportive than the hips, we create a wider band of tension that makes forward carriage much more workable.

The fit of your pants is just as important as the belt and the holster.


I know that's kind of long-winded but does that help some?

orionz06
05-16-2018, 08:36 AM
To add to that, the extra material from the +2 suggestion that's echoed bunches and always accumulates up front. The fabric moving around can find ways to detract from the function of a good holster.

blues
05-16-2018, 08:59 AM
I also find it much more comfortable and efficient to wear gear AIWB with pants that fit snugly, (not restrictively), with all the gear in place.

Good points, Craig, Tom.

orionz06
05-16-2018, 09:03 AM
It's also worth noting that AIWB doesn't add the circumferential length that directly on the hip does. If we look at a cross section of the belt line as a rectangle adding a small bump near the middle of the long side has little influence on the perimeter. If we add the same bump on the short side the rule of thumb may apply. The catch there is that most people, as Craig indicated, are wearing pants that are too large to begin with. If you're a 32" waist wearing 34" poorly and you add the 2" you wind up being the dude in class that he mentioned.

mtnbkr
05-16-2018, 09:03 AM
Based on the comments here, Southnarc's video, and the fact that hot, humid VA summers are doing bad things to my leather carry belts when I use them in "active" environments, I've ordered a Graith in black multicam.

Chris

Mack
05-16-2018, 09:47 AM
Guys if you're FB friends with me I just a live vid featuring The Specialist prominently.
Excellent video with a lot of great info. Also thank you for taking time to summarize the point about properly fitting clothing in your last post, we find that garment selection is an oftentimes overlooked or disregarded part of concealed carry.


https://www.facebook.com/martin.riggs.33/videos/1817757491621065/?comment_id=1817813231615491if_id=152642891230053 8if_t=like_tagged&ref=notif
Thank you for taking time to post the link to Craig's video, we appreciate it.


Based on the comments here, Southnarc's video, and the fact that hot, humid VA summers are doing bad things to my leather carry belts when I use them in "active" environments, I've ordered a Graith in black multicam.

Chris


Thanks for the order!

Mack
05-17-2018, 06:44 PM
A quick workbench pic of a newly minted Graith Specialist in MultiCam

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Jackdog
05-17-2018, 06:51 PM
My Specialist arrived today. Just did 30 minutes of dry practice with it. Pretty pleased with how comfortable it is. Ill wear it tomorrow on a domestic flight with my Sig, 2 mags and CP to see how it works for a long day.

SeriousStudent
05-18-2018, 10:43 PM
My Specialist arrived today. Just did 30 minutes of dry practice with it. Pretty pleased with how comfortable it is. I’ll wear it tomorrow on a domestic flight with my Sig, 2 mags and CP to see how it works for a long day.

I ordered one as well, I'll be wearing it at your June classes.

Jeff S.
05-19-2018, 01:32 PM
This may be difficult to quantify over the internet, but how would you guys describe the stiffness?

blues
05-19-2018, 02:34 PM
This may be difficult to quantify over the internet, but how would you guys describe the stiffness?

Just right.


(Stiff enough vertically, flexible enough horizontally. I've worn mine virtually every day since I got it. I have essentially the same belt, per Mack, with an AustiAlpin frame buckle.)

farscott
05-19-2018, 07:49 PM
This may be difficult to quantify over the internet, but how would you guys describe the stiffness?

The Specialist is surprisingly stiff vertically while conforming to the body horizontally. My gray one does not sag at all with a G17.3 in a good holster and a spare magazine while being very comfortable. The Velcro closures allow for infinite adjustment with no concern about fasteners as on traditional belts and buckles. I like it enough to have ordered a black one and a brown one. The belts are really good values, where value is defined as what you get for what you pay.

Jeff S.
05-19-2018, 10:11 PM
Thanks guys. I don't want to be able to collapse the belt vertically (pinch the sides and have them bend towards each other). Sounds like it’s the stiffness I’m looking for.

Mack
05-21-2018, 09:24 AM
Thanks guys. I don't want to be able to collapse the belt vertically (pinch the sides and have them bend towards each other). Sounds like its the stiffness Im looking for.

The Specialist has quite a bit of vertical rigidity so you wont be able to collapse the belt on itself if you were to pinch the belt together vertically. The Specialist has a surprising amount of flexibility, this flexibility coupled with the vertical rigidity makes it great for AIWB but it can be used for most any concealed carry or EDC need.

23JAZ
05-21-2018, 02:52 PM
The Specialist has quite a bit of vertical rigidity so you wont be able to collapse the belt on itself if you were to pinch the belt together vertically. The Specialist has a surprising amount of flexibility, this flexibility coupled with the vertical rigidity makes it great for AIWB but it can be used for most any concealed carry or EDC need.

Out of Stock on the Black 36" Specialist. Any ide when it will be back in stock?

Mack
05-21-2018, 04:58 PM
Out of Stock on the Black 36" Specialist. Any ide when it will be back in stock?

We are expecting a large order of webbing to be shipped this week so a conservative time-frame will be approximately 14 days, hopefully less. We can post in the thread when black is available again. The Specialist is becoming more popular every day and and we also have wholesale orders (all black) that need to be fulfilled; we have been going through much more webbing than we could have ever anticipated.

blues
05-21-2018, 05:36 PM
We are expecting a large order of webbing to be shipped this week so a conservative time-frame will be approximately 14 days, hopefully less. We can post in the thread when black is available again. The Specialist is becoming more popular every day and and we also have wholesale orders (all black) that need to be fulfilled; we have been going through much more webbing than we could have ever anticipated.

Gives new meaning to searching the worldwide (for) web.

Congrats, Mack, on your success. Well deserved, imho.

Mack
05-21-2018, 07:13 PM
Gives new meaning to searching the worldwide (for) web.

Congrats, Mack, on your success. Well deserved, imho.

Thank you for the kind words. We are very thankful and appreciative of everyone's support in making the launch of Graith a success!

SeriousStudent
05-21-2018, 09:41 PM
My belt arrived today. Thanks for the very fast shipping.

Cecil Burch
05-22-2018, 05:24 PM
I absolutely refuse to buy any more stuff because of Craig. I already have spent thousands and thousands because of him. I own two of the original AIWB Mastermind belts and they are my go-to non business wear belts. They rock. But I am not going to but something that is even better just because it will make Craig happy. Especially if I buy a Shivworks special model (even if I am 1/6th of the collective). I just refuse.

:D

Nah, probably placing my order before the weekend. Damn you Douglas.

WobblyPossum
05-22-2018, 06:37 PM
I ordered one yesterday. My existing one will be relegated to range duty. I realized I needed separate belts when mine got muddy and gross during ECQC over the weekend.



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Mack
05-23-2018, 10:51 AM
My belt arrived today. Thanks for the very fast shipping.

It is good to hear it made it to you safely. We hope that it serves you well, thanks again.


I absolutely refuse to buy any more stuff because of Craig. I already have spent thousands and thousands because of him. I own two of the original AIWB Mastermind belts and they are my go-to non business wear belts. They rock. But I am not going to but something that is even better just because it will make Craig happy. Especially if I buy a Shivworks special model (even if I am 1/6th of the collective). I just refuse.

:D

Nah, probably placing my order before the weekend. Damn you Douglas.


I ordered one yesterday. My existing one will be relegated to range duty. I realized I needed separate belts when mine got muddy and gross during ECQC over the weekend.


Thank you both for the continued support, it is very much appreciated! When it comes to Specialists one is none and two is one :)

mtnbkr
05-23-2018, 11:24 AM
Thank you both for the continued support, it is very much appreciated! When it comes to Specialists one is none and two is one :)
But if two is one, doesn't that make it none as one is also none?

That means we need three as three is two. :D

But two is one, which as we now know, means none. :(

We need infinite belts! :D

Chris

blues
05-23-2018, 11:48 AM
But if two is one, doesn't that make it none as one is also none?

That means we need three as three is two. :D

But two is one, which as we now know, means none. :(

We need infinite belts! :D

Chris


I'm living proof of that theorem.

dontshakepandas
05-23-2018, 12:14 PM
I'm still holding my breath hoping for black buckle options. I've lost enough weight that I'm already on the small end of the adjustment range of my current one so I'm probably going to have to buy another one soon either way.

I may go have pizza for lunch just to push it out a bit further.

Mack
05-23-2018, 03:22 PM
But if two is one, doesn't that make it none as one is also none?

That means we need three as three is two. :D

But two is one, which as we now know, means none. :(

We need infinite belts! :D

Chris

The math seems to make sense :)

Mack
05-23-2018, 03:25 PM
We have received a shipping confirmation for a re-stock of black webbing and we are hopeful that we have black Specialists back on the website within a week if all goes as planned. We will be sure to keep everyone updated. If you would like to receive an email notification when they are back please use the link below to sign up for our Graith newsletter.

https://www.graithusa.com/contact/

mtnbkr
05-23-2018, 09:16 PM
I got my belt today, which was surprising because tracking as of this morning indicated delivery tomorrow.

The belt is very well made and comfortable.

However, I have a couple issues. Not so much with the belt, but with me.

First, going by the guidelines of sizing by adding 2" to your pant size, I ended up with 36 because my pants are 34". But...34" pants are loose on me because virtually nobody makes 33"-33.5" pants. Ergo, when I snug the belt down to fit, I have about 1" of adjustment left before I hit the velcro. That said, this is with pants without a tucked shirt. A tucked shirt would take up some of the slack. I guess I'm set if I gain weight. :) I could probably make the next size down work since the belts adjust up to 3" above the stated size, but that would have been close during the holidays or if I had a thick shirt tucked.

Second, I must wear belts backwards because if I wear this one the way I wear my other belts, it puts the thickest part of the belt (velcro and all) where my AIWB holsters are positioned. They're not happy with the extra bulk. But...looking at the model at the top of the thread, and going by the Graith label on the inside of the belt and the faint "multicam" label on the outside of the belt, I should have it oriented in the other direction. Doing that makes my holsters happy. So, I'll need to be sure to run this belt opposite of my normal habit. It'll feel weird getting dressed, but doesn't wear differently once I'm done, so it's all good.

Other than those two "gripes", it's a great product and is comfortable so far. The wife and kids like the black multicam option too!

Chris

Mack
05-24-2018, 12:34 PM
I got my belt today, which was surprising because tracking as of this morning indicated delivery tomorrow.

The belt is very well made and comfortable.

However, I have a couple issues. Not so much with the belt, but with me.

First, going by the guidelines of sizing by adding 2" to your pant size, I ended up with 36 because my pants are 34". But...34" pants are loose on me because virtually nobody makes 33"-33.5" pants. Ergo, when I snug the belt down to fit, I have about 1" of adjustment left before I hit the velcro. That said, this is with pants without a tucked shirt. A tucked shirt would take up some of the slack. I guess I'm set if I gain weight. :) I could probably make the next size down work since the belts adjust up to 3" above the stated size, but that would have been close during the holidays or if I had a thick shirt tucked.

Second, I must wear belts backwards because if I wear this one the way I wear my other belts, it puts the thickest part of the belt (velcro and all) where my AIWB holsters are positioned. They're not happy with the extra bulk. But...looking at the model at the top of the thread, and going by the Graith label on the inside of the belt and the faint "multicam" label on the outside of the belt, I should have it oriented in the other direction. Doing that makes my holsters happy. So, I'll need to be sure to run this belt opposite of my normal habit. It'll feel weird getting dressed, but doesn't wear differently once I'm done, so it's all good.

Other than those two "gripes", it's a great product and is comfortable so far. The wife and kids like the black multicam option too!

Chris


Thanks for taking time to post. From what you have described about the fitment it does seem to fit within spec, it is personal preference but most users seem to prefer for a longer secured tail section opposed to a shorter one. With webbing belts that have a tail that doubles back over itself (opposed to how a normal leather belt works) you can wear them either way. A lot of users prefer to secure the tail over their holster attachment, and many also wear it the other way with the tail secured in the opposite direction of the holster (which is how I wear it).

Mack
05-24-2018, 12:35 PM
Title says it, the Specialist in black is now back!

BobLoblaw
05-24-2018, 08:39 PM
Got mine in this morning and Ill echo what others have posted. This is my fourth belt from you guys. Love the aesthetics of the belt material and beefed up buckle. It has the best combination of vertical rigidity and flexibility horizontally compared to any gun belt Ive purchased (dozens). Not usually a fan of Velcro but Im a huge fan of this belt. Home run. Congrats, gents.

mtnbkr
05-25-2018, 05:44 AM
A lot of users prefer to secure the tail over their holster attachment

Never thought of doing it that way. That may resolve one of my issues.

As for fitment, I agree it's in spec. It's *me* that's not in spec. :) I'm between standard sizes at the moment and have "issues" with pretty much anything these days.

Chris

Mack
05-25-2018, 01:36 PM
Got mine in this morning and Ill echo what others have posted. This is my fourth belt from you guys. Love the aesthetics of the belt material and beefed up buckle. It has the best combination of vertical rigidity and flexibility horizontally compared to any gun belt Ive purchased (dozens). Not usually a fan of Velcro but Im a huge fan of this belt. Home run. Congrats, gents.

Thanks for taking time to post, we are happy to hear that you like the new Specialist and hope that it serves you well.


Never thought of doing it that way. That may resolve one of my issues.

As for fitment, I agree it's in spec. It's *me* that's not in spec. :) I'm between standard sizes at the moment and have "issues" with pretty much anything these days.

Chris

We hope with some experimentation you can get it just right for your needs. Thank you again for the support!

leathermaneod
05-25-2018, 04:39 PM
Received my 2nd Specialist in Coyote a few days ago. It is awesome, as I knew it would be based on my first :-) Love the color! Shipping was super quick as always. Im also really liking the little draw string bag it came in! Thanks again Mack!


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blues
05-25-2018, 05:05 PM
Received my 2nd Specialist in Coyote a few days ago. It is awesome, as I knew it would be based on my first :-) Love the color! Shipping was super quick as always. I’m also really liking the little draw string bag it came in! Thanks again Mack!


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P-F is quickly becoming Pistol-Fashionistas!

leathermaneod
05-25-2018, 05:07 PM
P-F is quickly becoming Pistol-Fashionistas!

Lol I just really like the guys at Mastermind and Graith and was excited to see some reusable swag!


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blues
05-25-2018, 05:10 PM
Lol I just really like the guys at Mastermind and Graith and was excited to see some reusable swag!


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Uh-huh...keep telling yourself that.

Women have the little black dress. And we have the little black, (and coyote, and digicam, and...) belt.

Don't be too hard on yourself. It's a rite of passage. Yeah, that's the ticket! ;)

WobblyPossum
05-25-2018, 07:08 PM
Mine came today. I wasnt expecting it to be so much stiffer than my original minimalist belt. I definitely like the newer buckle better since its large enough to thread the belt in over itself. Im looking forward to trying it out.



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Shoresy
05-25-2018, 08:28 PM
Women have the little black dress. And we have the little black, (and coyote, and digicam, and...) belt

Zardoz 2: Mastermind Edition?

blues
05-25-2018, 08:37 PM
Zardoz 2: Mastermind Edition?

I'm out of my depth. I have no idea what that means. :p

Mack
05-28-2018, 10:52 AM
Received my 2nd Specialist in Coyote a few days ago. It is awesome, as I knew it would be based on my first :-) Love the color! Shipping was super quick as always. Im also really liking the little draw string bag it came in! Thanks again Mack!


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Thanks for the continued support! It is also good to hear that you took notice of the new packaging.

blues
05-28-2018, 11:57 AM
Tom, I love ya like a brother but I could've gone to my grave without that info...


;)

Tom Givens
05-28-2018, 10:48 PM
All the cool kids had a Graith belt, so I got one and have been wearing it about a week. Love it. Taught an Intensive Pistol Skills course in South Carolina this past weekend and the belt kept my G17 and 2 spare mags where I wanted them. I really like the smaller, low profile metal buckle arrangement. I just ordered a second one in black to go with the gray one.

Mack
05-29-2018, 12:50 PM
All the cool kids had a Graith belt, so I got one and have been wearing it about a week. Love it. Taught an Intensive Pistol Skills course in South Carolina this past weekend and the belt kept my G17 and 2 spare mags where I wanted them. I really like the smaller, low profile metal buckle arrangement. I just ordered a second one in black to go with the gray one.

Thanks for taking time to post. We are happy to hear that you are liking the belt and thank you for the continued support, it is much appreciated!

Doc_Glock
05-29-2018, 01:38 PM
Just put mine on this am and have four hours on it. Dang it is comfy. I have used a 1.75"Wilderness Frequent Flyer 5 stitch for many years. Unfortunately I think I will be swapping Holster hardware over to 1.5" now. I definitely do not miss the massive FF plastic ring buckle.

underhook
05-29-2018, 01:43 PM
Had mine for a week now. It is a nice balance of support and flexibility. I was wearing an Ares built. Biggest improvement - my backpack no long knocks the back of my pants down as I walk.

OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
05-29-2018, 02:33 PM
Just put mine on this am and have four hours on it. Dang it is comfy. I have used a 1.75"Wilderness Frequent Flyer 5 stitch for many years. Unfortunately I think I will be swapping Holster hardware over to 1.5" now. I definitely do not miss the massive FF plastic ring buckle.

Enel the Specialist will grow on ya brother, just give it a few more days and weeks.

Saying this as I’ve used a 5 stitch for years in matches & classes but no mas. Received my 2nd Specialist (MC this time) and while using it in dry fire this week, really looking forward to using it in Sat’s. USPSA match then @ DB’s later this month, see ya big ass buckle.

Mack
05-30-2018, 02:18 PM
Enel underhook OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor thanks again for the support and taking time to post about your experiences with the Specialist!

BN
05-30-2018, 08:30 PM
I got a black one just before you ran out of black. :)

I've been wearing it a week or so and I like it. I like the low profile buckle a lot. I've been wearing 5 stitch belts for years and this is it's equal and more. I wore it at a pistol match last weekend and it held up my gun and pants both. ;)

Mack
05-31-2018, 09:50 AM
I got a black one just before you ran out of black. :)

I've been wearing it a week or so and I like it. I like the low profile buckle a lot. I've been wearing 5 stitch belts for years and this is it's equal and more. I wore it at a pistol match last weekend and it held up my gun and pants both. ;)

Thanks for taking time to post! We are happy to hear that you are enjoying the Specialist and appreciate the continued support.

Also for anyone that missed the announcement black Specialists are now back in stock.

GOTURBACK
05-31-2018, 02:19 PM
I just ordered up a gray 40, I've been wearing 38's but shrinking hope she cinches down enough for a while.

Guerrero
05-31-2018, 03:03 PM
I decided that I would chime in. I got my belt last week and wore it pretty much constantly over the long weekend. For those of you wondering, the vertical stiffness is very good - I can start to get it to fold/crush if I squeeze for all I'm worth, but short of that... nope. Like SouthNarc alluded to upthread, it's the horizontal rigidity that really makes this - my previous belt (an OSOE Gear Low-Profile EDC belt) was so rigid horizontally that it always made the same shape oval on my pants, no matter if they were on my waist or on the floor. I thought this was a good thing, until I put on the Specialist. With the Specialist (again, as SouthNarc said), it contours more to your body, making it even more lo-pro than just the belt's appearance would indicate. I have recently lost some weight, and I just bought some 32" pants over the weekend, so I had ordered a 34. I'm still not 100% sure that I ordered the right size, but I can get it to work well most times. I will say that you may need to try wearing it in different ways depending on which pants/shorts you have on; the positioning of the belt-loops on your pant will necessitate this. The cool thing, though, is that with the buckle design and the hook-and-loop fastening, you have a very wide variety of options in how you wear it (compared to, say, discrete belt holes and fastening loops). You can wear it conventionally, with the "tail" going to your right side (in the conventional male fashion), with your holster looped around the belt and the tail. You can wear your holster on the belt, then use the tail on the velcro to lock the holster in place. Or, as Mack said, you can wear it "backwards" (which might actually be correct, as this would get the Graith label to be right-side up, at least on mine), with the tail going to the left (assuming a right-handed AIWB). I've mostly been wearing my conventionally, as I'm right-handed and I have a Clinch Pick at my 12:30, and I like the idea of "locking down" my holster, with the holster loops on either side of my belt loop, then pinched between the velcro of the belt. BTW, the grey is a shade darker than in the pictures.

Overall, I'd say it's a win.

Mack
05-31-2018, 06:43 PM
I just ordered up a gray 40, I've been wearing 38's but shrinking hope she cinches down enough for a while.

Thanks for the support! The Specialist can adjust approximately 2" smaller than the labelled size to 3" larger than the labelled size so it should work nicely for you unless you will be moving into a 36.


I decided that I would chime in. I got my belt last week and wore it pretty much constantly over the long weekend. For those of you wondering, the vertical stiffness is very good - I can start to get it to fold/crush if I squeeze for all I'm worth, but short of that... nope. Like SouthNarc alluded to upthread, it's the horizontal rigidity that really makes this - my previous belt (an OSOE Gear Low-Profile EDC belt) was so rigid horizontally that it always made the same shape oval on my pants, no matter if they were on my waist or on the floor. I thought this was a good thing, until I put on the Specialist. With the Specialist (again, as SouthNarc said), it contours more to your body, making it even more lo-pro than just the belt's appearance would indicate. I have recently lost some weight, and I just bought some 32" pants over the weekend, so I had ordered a 34. I'm still not 100% sure that I ordered the right size, but I can get it to work well most times. I will say that you may need to try wearing it in different ways depending on which pants/shorts you have on; the positioning of the belt-loops on your pant will necessitate this. The cool thing, though, is that with the buckle design and the hook-and-loop fastening, you have a very wide variety of options in how you wear it (compared to, say, discrete belt holes and fastening loops). You can wear it conventionally, with the "tail" going to your right side (in the conventional male fashion), with your holster looped around the belt and the tail. You can wear your holster on the belt, then use the tail on the velcro to lock the holster in place. Or, as Mack said, you can wear it "backwards" (which might actually be correct, as this would get the Graith label to be right-side up, at least on mine), with the tail going to the left (assuming a right-handed AIWB). I've mostly been wearing my conventionally, as I'm right-handed and I have a Clinch Pick at my 12:30, and I like the idea of "locking down" my holster, with the holster loops on either side of my belt loop, then pinched between the velcro of the belt. BTW, the grey is a shade darker than in the pictures.

Overall, I'd say it's a win.

Thanks for taking time out of your day to post about your experience with the Specialist. There is no wrong way to wear a Specialist however it was designed to be worn so the holster is attached opposite of the secured tail, but again it can be worn in any manner that works for your individual needs and a lot of it is dependent on how you set up your gear.

Guerrero
05-31-2018, 06:49 PM
Thanks for the support! The Specialist can adjust approximately 2" smaller than the labelled size to 3" larger than the labelled size so it should work nicely for you unless you will be moving into a 36.



Thanks for taking time out of your day to post about your experience with the Specialist. There is no wrong way to wear a Specialist however it was designed to be worn so the holster is attached opposite of the secured tail, but again it can be worn in any manner that works for your individual needs and a lot of it is dependent on how you set up your gear.

That's good to know. I may give wearing it the "correct" way another try.

TexasSiegfried
06-01-2018, 04:24 AM
+1 for wearing it "backwards". I love it hooking down over my JMCK loops at 1230, and that way the tail doesn't interfere with my left side spare mag carrier.

Great product and I see more colors being ordered in my near future!!!

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Mack
06-01-2018, 09:50 AM
+1 for wearing it "backwards". I love it hooking down over my JMCK loops at 1230, and that way the tail doesn't interfere with my left side spare mag carrier.

Great product and I see more colors being ordered in my near future!!!

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We are happy to hear that the Specialist is working for you!

I think for most how they set up and carry their gear determines which direction they end up wearing the belt. Traditionally (i.e. made up fashion rule) men's belts are worn with the tail on the wearer's left side (so with a normal leather belt you would thread it on counter-clockwise, to get the same tail position with a webbing belt that doubles back on itself you would thread it on clockwise).

One thing to note with wearing the belt with the tail secured over the holster is that your holster attachment can cause the loop to wear prematurely.

Mack
06-06-2018, 09:47 AM
A new batch of black Specialists nearing closer to completion.
26814

Gun Mutt
06-07-2018, 12:56 PM
Awright...belt ordered & eagerly anticipated, but still butt hurt that I can't get one of your holsters. Anyone have an extra one for a G19 takin' up space?

Mack
06-07-2018, 07:09 PM
Awright...belt ordered & eagerly anticipated, but still butt hurt that I can't get one of your holsters. Anyone have an extra one for a G19 takin' up space?

Thank you! We hope that your new Specialist will serve you well.

As many of you may know we are a two-man operation and currently we cannot keep up with both holster and Graith orders, we appreciate the understanding and the continued support!

Gun Mutt
06-08-2018, 08:21 AM
Well hell, my post was funnier in my head as I typed it on a batshit crazy Thurs. Like I said in my email, I'm very happy for you guys & your success...I'm just being a sore loser because one of my best friends got one of your last holsters & is rubbing it in my face. I've got 3 JM's now, maybe it's time to try a Dark Star.

Looking forward to the belt!

Guinnessman
06-08-2018, 08:38 AM
I received my “Specialist” last week and have been wearing it daily. After trying lots of belts, this belt is hands down the best AIWB belt I have used. It is truly a game changer for me. Keep up the good work!

Mack
06-08-2018, 10:59 AM
I received my “Specialist” last week and have been wearing it daily. After trying lots of belts, this belt is hands down the best AIWB belt I have used. It is truly a game changer for me. Keep up the good work!

We are very happy to hear that you are liking your Specialist and appreciate the compliment. Thank you again for the support!

GOTURBACK
06-08-2018, 11:32 AM
I received my specialist yesterday, I like the understated packaging, and the grey color is quite nice, I was concerned about whether I chose the correct size as I have been in sizing transition but it has alot of adjustment capabilit, looking forward to shooting tomorrow with it.

Mack
06-08-2018, 03:09 PM
I received my specialist yesterday, I like the understated packaging, and the grey color is quite nice, I was concerned about whether I chose the correct size as I have been in sizing transition but it has alot of adjustment capabilit, looking forward to shooting tomorrow with it.

Thanks for taking time to post; gray does look good especially with the gunmetal buckle. We hope the belt serves you well. Thanks again.

Guerrero
06-12-2018, 10:37 AM
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like there's an uptick in the number of belts in the FSoT threads.

Coincidence? I think not.

Guinnessman
06-12-2018, 11:01 AM
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like there's an uptick in the number of belts in the FSoT threads.

Coincidence? I think not.

I am strongly considering a full blown panic buy of Specialist Belts just in case they decide to raise the price. :p

Mack
06-12-2018, 02:38 PM
It has been very cool to see the response to the Graith Specialist; we are thankful for everyone's support, feedback, and kind words. We hope to be able to update this thread in the coming weeks with some more photos and maybe some workshop pics.

dontshakepandas
06-12-2018, 07:29 PM
It has been very cool to see the response to the Graith Specialist; we are thankful for everyone's support, feedback, and kind words. We hope to be able to update this thread in the coming weeks with some more photos and maybe some workshop pics.And some flat black buckles? *Crosses fingers*

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Mack
06-13-2018, 10:52 AM
And some flat black buckles? *Crosses fingers*

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Changing the color of the buckle is possible however making black buckles would require a custom order of 600 pieces so if you can find 599 other people who would be interested we could do a special edition :)

scjbash
06-13-2018, 05:15 PM
For the last six years I've worn an Ares Ranger belt. Great quality and still doesn't have a single loose stitch. After three days with the Specialist I'm blown away by how much more comfortable it is and how much better the gun tucks in. The Ares will now be living in the extra gear box.

You guys should start charging more. After I buy another one of course.

Gun Mutt
06-14-2018, 07:35 AM
Got mine a couple of days ago...between the Graith and the DSG w/mod wing I got from a P-F member it's wuv, twue wuv.

Between my BJJ and eating Keto, I'm gonna need to drop from a Graith 36 to a 34, guess I better order now before the price bump.

Mack
06-14-2018, 11:24 AM
For the last six years I've worn an Ares Ranger belt. Great quality and still doesn't have a single loose stitch. After three days with the Specialist I'm blown away by how much more comfortable it is and how much better the gun tucks in. The Ares will now be living in the extra gear box.

You guys should start charging more. After I buy another one of course.


Got mine a couple of days ago...between the Graith and the DSG w/mod wing I got from a P-F member it's wuv, twue wuv.

Between my BJJ and eating Keto, I'm gonna need to drop from a Graith 36 to a 34, guess I better order now before the price bump.

Thank you both for taking time to post and sharing your experiences with the Specialist. We are very happy to hear that they are working to your liking.

23JAZ
06-15-2018, 10:37 AM
Out of Stock on the Black 36" Specialist. Any ide when it will be back in stock?

Ordered! Hopefully the sizing will work out. I am in between a 33" - 34". My medium Volund Atlas barely fits when I'm carrying but fits perfect when I am not. Fingers crossed a 36" specialist wont be too big if I am not carrying.
Thanks Mack.

Gun Mutt
06-15-2018, 03:00 PM
Ordered! Hopefully the sizing will work out. I am in between a 33" - 34"...Fingers crossed a 36" specialist wont be too big if I am not carrying.
Thanks Mack.
I'm in the same place 33-34 waist heading to 32. I've got a 36 Specialist and it fits just fine without a pistola.

23JAZ
06-21-2018, 01:09 PM
I'm in the same place 33-34 waist heading to 32. I've got a 36 Specialist and it fits just fine without a pistola.

Received mine yesterday. 36" in black. I've had it on since it arrived. I can say for sure it is more comfortable than my Volund Gearworks Atlas belt. The size of the buckle is great for AIWB carry especially when you're carrying a reload and a clinch pick up front as well. It also conceals that kit very well with just a polo shirt. My other EDC belts will now be collecting dust in the closet. Thanks Graith!

Mack
06-21-2018, 02:16 PM
Received mine yesterday. 36" in black. I've had it on since it arrived. I can say for sure it is more comfortable than my Volund Gearworks Atlas belt. The size of the buckle is great for AIWB carry especially when you're carrying a reload and a clinch pick up front as well. It also conceals that kit very well with just a polo shirt. My other EDC belts will now be collecting dust in the closet. Thanks Graith!

Thanks for the support and for taking time out of your day to post about your experience with the belt. We are very happy to hear that it is working to your liking!

23JAZ
06-23-2018, 11:03 AM
@Guerreo here you go.
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Buckle is at 3 o’clock.

BK14
07-01-2018, 12:18 AM
I bought the specialist on a whim, trying to find something more convenient than my Atlas, and more comfortable and lower profile than my Wilderness or Cobra Belt.

I think the more rigid belts may conceal an AIWB with a claw slightly better, but the Specialist is way more comfortable. Ive carried appendix with a Mastermind holster, recently started carrying 4 o clock with a raven Morrigan, and also used it as my under-belt for work this week without issues.

I love this belt. I just bought one as a gift, and Im about to buy a second one for myself just trying to decide on the color. I typically exclusively use a 1.75 belt, but made an exception for this one. Im glad I did!

All in all, great belt. I dig it, its replaced all other EDC belts I use, and could easily be pressed into other rolls too if needed.

YVK
07-02-2018, 12:22 AM
So I have a question. I have an earlier Mastermind belt, I dunno, 18 months old maybe, not sure. If this is any indicator, mine is size 35 so it is something that's older than when the change to even sizes only was made. Seems like the design is the same. Is there any difference between older Mastermind belts and Graith in support, flexibility and degree of size adjustability?

WobblyPossum
07-02-2018, 07:29 AM
So I have a question. I have an earlier Mastermind belt, I dunno, 18 months old maybe, not sure. If this is any indicator, mine is size 35 so it is something that's older than when the change to even sizes only was made. Seems like the design is the same. Is there any difference between older Mastermind belts and Graith in support, flexibility and degree of size adjustability?

I also have one of the first gen belts. There are a couple of differences. First, the buckle on the original was too small to thread the tail through both holes so the only thing keeping the belt snug was Velcro. The newer buckle is just enough larger that the belt can thread through both holes so even if the Velcro failed, the belt would function. Someone posted a picture earlier showing this. Second, whereas the original belt was made of one layer of webbing except the reinforced part where an AIWB holster would ride, the Specialist is made of a couple of layers. Its slightly thicker, and thus stiffer, than the original. I find the Specialist a little more comfortable than the original and I like that its just a little sturdier feeling.


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blues
07-02-2018, 08:16 AM
So I have a question. I have an earlier Mastermind belt, I dunno, 18 months old maybe, not sure. If this is any indicator, mine is size 35 so it is something that's older than when the change to even sizes only was made. Seems like the design is the same. Is there any difference between older Mastermind belts and Graith in support, flexibility and degree of size adjustability?

Owning a bazillion of the belts, I find they all work pretty well. I've got a range from the lightest, (single layer, coyote color), to the fairly thick D-ring closure "Universal".

My recommendation is, if it's working for you, there's really no need to chase performance. That said, the range of belts I have from Mack make it easy to pair with particular clothing...such as light shorts or heavier canvas pants, AIWB or OWB.

As Dan said, the current "Specialist" splits the difference between the thinner and thicker offerings from Mastermind in the past in terms of overall vertical rigidity while remaining pretty flexible horizontally.

YVK
07-02-2018, 09:14 AM
Thanks. I completely effed up the size when I ordered that belt so it is not really long enough to use without carry gear, let alone with. Hence, I never got to learn how that belt worked. Going to review my belt situation and see if need one or not.

Mack
07-02-2018, 09:53 AM
So I have a question. I have an earlier Mastermind belt, I dunno, 18 months old maybe, not sure. If this is any indicator, mine is size 35 so it is something that's older than when the change to even sizes only was made. Seems like the design is the same. Is there any difference between older Mastermind belts and Graith in support, flexibility and degree of size adjustability?

The current Specialist has undergone numerous changes since its inception. While it may look similar to older models it has actually been entirely redesigned. Here is a list of the key differences from the older designs:


New Buckle which is easier to thread and more durable
Different webbings, also construction has changed where the belt features a scuba-webbing core with 1.5 mil-spec webbing (made out of Cordura yarn)
New thread and hook-and-loop material
The tail has been redesigned and now has a webbing core to provide more vertical rigidity while also working with the buckle to provide more retention when secured
Sizing has been altered, along with the overall tail length and adjustment range to better accommodate those who secure the tail of their belt over their holster


The current Graith Specialist doesn't share anything in common with your belt in regards to construction and design. Compared to your belt it will have a larger adjustment range, have more vertical rigidity (support), while still maintaining flexibility.

ubervic
07-02-2018, 04:35 PM
Just received mine today. Fits and wears great instantly. All the support of my old leather gun belt but with probably less than 20% of the weight/bulk, and obviously more (infinitely) adjustable. Best, there no buckle bulge.

This belt is freakin' awesome.

Mack
07-05-2018, 10:58 AM
Just received mine today. Fits and wears great instantly. All the support of my old leather gun belt but with probably less than 20% of the weight/bulk, and obviously more (infinitely) adjustable. Best, there no buckle bulge.

This belt is freakin' awesome.

Thanks for the support and taking time to share your experience with the Specialist! We are happy to hear that you are liking it.

Mack
07-05-2018, 05:44 PM
Building some Specialists.
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Mack
07-15-2018, 02:02 PM
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BobLoblaw
07-15-2018, 06:34 PM
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Mack
07-31-2018, 01:53 PM
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Jackdog
07-31-2018, 02:02 PM
Wore my Graith/Shivworks Specialist thru security at Heathrow today. No issues. Didnt ping the magnetometer. Pretty pleased with not having to take it off while going thru security. If it doesnt set off the alarms in LHR then youre pretty good to go everywhere else.


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Clusterfrack
07-31-2018, 02:41 PM
I've been wearing my black Multicam Graith Specialist belt full time for 3 months. I'm really happy with it. It works well carrying a full-size pistol AIWB, and as a regular belt. Recently I did some long backcountry hikes carrying AIWB, and the Specialist made that a lot more comfortable than I expected. It's the perfect balance of stiffness vs. flexibility for AIWB.

I also use it during martial arts (Systema uses street clothes), and so far it's held up to me getting thrown hard by the belt. During grappling I appreciate the low profile buckle.

I bought the 34" for my 32" waist, and was initially concerned that it was too long. I now like the length. Having the velcro farther from the buckle is more secure, and the space allows for carry of various things at 11:00.

The only thing I would change is the finish on the buckle. I'd prefer matte black or unfinished brass. If those options surface, I'll get another one for sure.

Mack
08-14-2018, 06:33 PM
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Shoresy
08-14-2018, 07:35 PM
FMW=Fuck My Wallet...

Super J
08-16-2018, 05:31 PM
I have one of the mastermind minimalist belts from July of 2017. I really like it and have no complaints, but this Specialist belt sounds quite appealing. Is the sizing the same? As long as I am happy with the size of the minimalist belt, I can order the same sized specialist?

Mack
08-16-2018, 06:18 PM
I have one of the mastermind minimalist belts from July of 2017. I really like it and have no complaints, but this Specialist belt sounds quite appealing. Is the sizing the same? As long as I am happy with the size of the minimalist belt, I can order the same sized specialist?

Yes you can order the same size Specialist. Thanks!

Mack
08-16-2018, 06:32 PM
We wanted to take a moment to share some updated sizing instructions/info with everyone as we have encountered some questions about pants size and what that actually means.

Pants Size is not necessarily the number on the size label that is sewn into your pants. Pants size is an actual measurement in inches and with the proliferation of vanity sized garments oftentimes ones actual pants size and the labeled size in their garments are not the same.

When following our general sizing instructions (to select a belt size that is two inches (2) larger than your average pants size ) if you do not know your actual pants size it is best to use the labeled size of a pair of trousers or dress pants to determine your Pants Size for the purposes of selecting the proper size belt. Trousers or dress pants tend to run truer to size and yield better results. Blue jeans and similar type work-wear are not recommended for determining ones actual pants size as oftentimes the labeled size and the actual waist/pants size are not the same.

We also find a tendency for people to 'average' their pants size, meaning that if one wears a number of different sized pants, for example size 30 jeans from a major manufacturer available at your local department store, size 32 canvas work pants, and a size 34 dress pants the largest numbered size is likely the closest to your actual pants size. When determining your pants size, don't average the different sizes you may wear, go with the largest size you can wear.

Additionally pants that are sized in S/M/L which have adjustment ranges are not suitable for obtaining a pants size for the purposes of our sizing instructions, nor are pants that have elastic waistband or drawstring closures.

Super J
08-17-2018, 02:12 PM
Yes you can order the same size Specialist. Thanks!

Okay, thanks

CalmlyDeMented
08-17-2018, 03:31 PM
Love mine, super comfortable. However, threading it through the split loop on a JMCK holster can be a chore. Either the first inch or so of the belt needs to be stiffer, or I need to switch to soft loops with pull the dot snaps. Yeah, I'll do that.

leathermaneod
08-17-2018, 05:23 PM
Love mine, super comfortable. However, threading it through the split loop on a JMCK holster can be a chore. Either the first inch or so of the belt needs to be stiffer, or I need to switch to soft loops with pull the dot snaps. Yeah, I'll do that.

I dont find it hard to get it through a split loop unless Im trying to bridge a belt loop with the split loop, then it is impossible. I am actually very disappointed atm, because the 1.75 split loop Im waiting on to hopefully solve this issue should have arrived today and it hasnt. I like pull the dot loops very well, except for the difficulty getting any cant adjustment. Thats actually the whole reason for my trying the split loop. I think I need a backwards cant.


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Mack
10-23-2018, 10:48 AM
We have a Limited Edition Specialist up that will be our lowest production Specialist to date with only 25 copies available.

It features contrasting Coyote stitching, Coyote scuba webbing, and a natural finished brass buckle.

https://www.graithusa.com/shop/ttspecialist

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Mack
10-25-2018, 12:13 PM
Only a couple of these Limited Editions left; we expect them to go out of stock sometime this evening.

deftnleft
10-26-2018, 01:13 AM
Let me take y'all through a little timeline of my night...


Heard about the Graith Specialist on another forum in a thread discussing a similar belt.
Google'd the belt which led me to this thread.
Went through all 17 pages and liked what I heard and saw.
Placed an order for the LE Specialist.
Registered on this forum to tell y'all lol.



I have more gun belts than I'd like to admit, but I like trying new gear and the price was right. Looking forward to trying this belt out!

Mack
10-26-2018, 10:29 AM
Let me take y'all through a little timeline of my night...


Heard about the Graith Specialist on another forum in a thread discussing a similar belt.
Google'd the belt which led me to this thread.
Went through all 17 pages and liked what I heard and saw.
Placed an order for the LE Specialist.
Registered on this forum to tell y'all lol.



I have more gun belts than I'd like to admit, but I like trying new gear and the price was right. Looking forward to trying this belt out!

Thanks for the order and taking time to post!

deftnleft
11-05-2018, 11:18 PM
Here are some of my initial impressions of the Specialist after wearing it for a few days.

I am admittedly a leather gun belt kind of a guy unless I'm at the range. I just think it's a more elegant material than nylon. I rotate between two Magpul Tejas El Original belts on a daily basis and an El Empresario for dressier occasions. While I love them, my two gripes with them would be thickness and lack of micro adjustment. As someone who is currently working off the weight I gained during my undergrad years, I've found myself between sizes as of late which makes one notch of the belt too loose with my gun (G19.5 and 17 reload in an LLOD Associate) and the next too tight. IMO, if you carry a gun and potentially more gear IWB (fixed blade knife, medical stuff, etc.), a belt with micro adjustments makes life a lot better. I love that I can throw on my holster and snug the belt down to the perfect tightness. The setup doesn't move. I also don't feel like the RCS Overhook on my holster actually "hooks" underneath the leather belts but more so hooks in between the two layers of leather due to the thickness. Is it secure enough? Yeah probably, but I get a more satisfying "snap" when I throw it on the Specialist. I will confess now that I do own an Ares Gear Aegis Enhanced belt that does everything the Specialist does, but it's more than twice the price and does not do a better job than the Specialist. If we're talking about OWB use, that'd be a different story and you'd have to be putting a lot of kit on for it to become noticeable, but the Specialist has shown me you do not need the stiffest belt known to man for AIWB. Although, the Specialist is not far behind the Aegis in terms of stiffness.

The Mene Gene Leather Reinforced Victory Aegis belt is my current grail belt, but at $125, I'm not investing in that belt until I hit my fitness goal. I won't hesitate to buy another Specialist should my current one become too big for me. I'm already eyeing the LE Shivworks Specialist.

TL;DR: It doesn't get much better than the Specialist for AIWB/IWB. This isn't one of those "great belt for the price" scenarios. It's one of the best belts for this role period. The price just makes it that much better.

As a final note, the brass buckle and contrast stitching of my LE Specialist make it one nice looking belt even against my leather belts. I encourage the guys at Graith to make a natural brass colored buckle (and perhaps contrast stitching) a standard option.

einherjarvalk
11-07-2018, 09:28 PM
Greg Ellifritz just dropped his review of the Specialist, calling it "the best gun belt Ive ever worn."

http://www.activeresponsetraining.net/a-new-gun-belt

AsianJedi
11-15-2018, 08:45 AM
Just picked mine up. Will report back with my thoughts.

OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
11-15-2018, 09:00 AM
Just picked mine up. Will report back with my thoughts.

Ill be stunned if you dont like it Scott & sorry I missed ya in Cresson last month, hope to catch ya back @ Lone Star in the Spring.

Mack
11-26-2018, 03:08 PM
Just picked mine up. Will report back with my thoughts.

Thanks for the order!

Bucky
11-27-2018, 05:10 AM
Our general sizing recommendations are to select a belt size that is two inches (2) larger than your average pants size (the size pants you would normally wear with all of your carry gear). For example if you wear size 38 pants with your carry gear choose a size 40 belt. If you can wear both 38 and 40 a size 40 belt should work for you. The actual adjustment range is approximately 2" in either direction from the marked size of the belt.

If you have any other questions about sizing please feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail and we can make sure to get you into the proper size.

Thanks!

Wish I had seen this before I ordered. Im between sizes, but I ordered +2 from the larger size. It still works ok, but a little more excess than Id have liked.

Hopefully I never grow into it. ;)

Boxy
11-27-2018, 08:12 AM
I just received one of these belts for more casual dress that does not scream tacticool. It was very comfortable while carrying G19 in an JM Custom Kydex inside waistband holster.

This may be a bit flexible for OWB, but I carry IWB all the time.

Two thumbs up for this belt. My wife even like the styling!!!

Mack
11-27-2018, 01:05 PM
Wish I had seen this before I ordered. Im between sizes, but I ordered +2 from the larger size. It still works ok, but a little more excess than Id have liked.

Hopefully I never grow into it. ;)

I am not sure when you placed your order but if you have not used it we will happily exchange it for you.



I just received one of these belts for more casual dress that does not scream tacticool. It was very comfortable while carrying G19 in an JM Custom Kydex inside waistband holster.

This may be a bit flexible for OWB, but I carry IWB all the time.

Two thumbs up for this belt. My wife even like the styling!!!

Thanks for the order and taking time to post!

Bucky
11-27-2018, 01:07 PM
I am not sure when you placed your order but if you have not used it we will happily exchange it for you.


I've been using it a couple months now. It's fine. The real goal is to be able to order an even smaller one a few months down the road. :)

Mack
11-27-2018, 01:10 PM
The majority of the questions we receive about the Specialist are related to size, I wanted to take a minute to post links to our Men's and Women's sizing instructions so they can be easily found by PF members.

https://www.graithusa.com/mens-belt-sizing

https://www.graithusa.com/womens-belt-sizing

Jackdog
11-27-2018, 06:04 PM
I dont have a problem. I can quit at anytime![emoji41]

New gray specialist and Shivworks special arrived this weekend.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181128/0516ee59a3af03ada197856d2441f28c.jpg


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SeriousStudent
11-27-2018, 06:36 PM
No, you can't quit, but you don't really have a problem.

OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
11-28-2018, 07:59 AM
Jackdog good to see I'm not the only one here w/ 3 Specialist's, carry on brother.

einherjarvalk
11-28-2018, 10:49 PM
The Mene Gene Leather Reinforced Victory Aegis belt is my current grail belt, but at $125, I'm not investing in that belt until I hit my fitness goal. I won't hesitate to buy another Specialist should my current one become too big for me.

This is just my personal take, but I've got a standard Aegis and wore it for well over a year and don't particularly miss it. It has since been benched indefinitely in favor of the Specialist - while the Aegis is much easier to don/doff, the lower profile buckle of the Specialist prints far less and is less likely to interfere with belt loops or AIWB holsters. Additionally, the Specialist doesn't eat holes in all my t-shirts like my Aegis did.

I may buy a leather Aegis as a "formal occasion" gunbelt down the line, but for everything else? Specialist.

dasbill
11-29-2018, 11:25 AM
Any chance of offering the pistol forum exclusive belt with the orange stitching again soon?

Jackdog
11-29-2018, 11:36 AM
Jackdog good to see I'm not the only one here w/ 3 Specialist's, carry on brother.

Actually, There are 4 belts there. A black, gray and the 2 shivworks limited editions.


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Mack
12-04-2018, 11:58 AM
Any chance of offering the pistol forum exclusive belt with the orange stitching again soon?

The PF Limited Release belt was a one time offering and will not be made again.

Gun Mutt
12-12-2018, 03:38 PM
I need to order another Specialist and since I was doing a bunch of measuring, I thought it worth snapping pics and posting, keeps the conversation rolling, at least.

This is my 36" Specialist, I wasn't sure where Mack measures from and to, so my tape starts at the tip of the belt, not including the buckle.

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I've set my BJJ aside...again...in favor of spending my minimal training time doing StrongLifts, so my waistline has increased (with bulky core muscles) enough so that I want to move up in belt size. I don't know the metric that Graith uses, so this is just about my metric. I don't want to ever use the belt with anything less than the full amount of male velcro secured to the female velcro. The tape shows where the velcro ends right at 34" and that's exactly where it ends up when I put it on sans pistol and holster.

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When I don a 442 in a DSG, with the belt adjusted comfortably, the edges of the velcro are past the fully synced point at 34.75"

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And with a G19 in a Mastermind Tactics w/claw I scored from another P-F'er, it hits 35.25"

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Assuming that Graith uses the same amount of velcro on all their belts, then on a 38" belt, that same edge of the final bit of full velcro contact would be at 36" and leave me an extra .75" of holiday gorging before I need to order again. And now I'm realizing I neglected to measure how far around my waist the tail would go if I just bumped up all the way to a 40" belt, it'd bug me if I'd need to thread it through the second belt loop at my left hip. Crap. Alright, one more measurement tonight and then by Zeus, I'll be ready to order my next one tomorrow. I'm thinking the MultiCam Black for this one...

Mack
12-13-2018, 06:38 PM
I need to order another Specialist and since I was doing a bunch of measuring, I thought it worth snapping pics and posting, keeps the conversation rolling, at least.

This is my 36" Specialist, I wasn't sure where Mack measures from and to, so my tape starts at the tip of the belt, not including the buckle.

Assuming that Graith uses the same amount of velcro on all their belts, then on a 38" belt, that same edge of the final bit of full velcro contact would be at 36" and leave me an extra .75" of holiday gorging before I need to order again. And now I'm realizing I neglected to measure how far around my waist the tail would go if I just bumped up all the way to a 40" belt, it'd bug me if I'd need to thread it through the second belt loop at my left hip. Crap. Alright, one more measurement tonight and then by Zeus, I'll be ready to order my next one tomorrow. I'm thinking the MultiCam Black for this one...

Something to keep in mind is that for every 1" adjustment in the overall belt length, the position of the tail will move 2". I took a couple pictures below to illustrate this. The first picture represents a belt at the end of the adjustment range (the hook closure is mated to the end of the loop closure). The loop closure ends at the 30" mark. You can also see that the overall length of the belt is at 34".

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In the second picture, the belt is adjusted so it is now at an overall length of 32" (the end of the loop closure is still at 30", the same as the last picture). Notice that the end of the tail is now at the 22" mark, when it was at the 26" mark in the above picture, when the length of the belt is 34".

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This 2" adjustment is also representative of the difference between consecutive sizes, so if you wear a size 36 and your hook closure mates the end of the loop closure like the first picture, if you switch to a size 38 it will look like the second picture.

Gun Mutt
12-14-2018, 08:20 AM
Wow, thanks for such a detailed response! When you see an order for a 38" MultiCam Black later today, it's your friendly neighborhood Mutt following through.

Mack
12-16-2018, 01:26 PM
Wow, thanks for such a detailed response! When you see an order for a 38" MultiCam Black later today, it's your friendly neighborhood Mutt following through.

No problem. Thank you for the order, it will be going out tomorrow.

Gun Mutt
12-17-2018, 10:11 AM
And it's already shipped...you're the goods, Mack! Have a great holiday!

Gun Mutt
12-23-2018, 02:59 PM
Got here a couple days ago...many thanks and Merry Christmas!

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HCountyGuy
12-28-2018, 08:22 AM
Wife got me one for Christmas. Ive previously used a Wilderness Frequent Flyer 5-stitch. This is more flexible and the lower profile buckle is less obtrusive when worn. Definitely my new go-to belt!

Great work on this!

Guerrero
01-03-2019, 02:47 PM
FYI, tried to wear my Specialist through airport security.

No dice; had to take it off after walking through the scanner.

Mack
01-03-2019, 02:50 PM
Got here a couple days ago...many thanks and Merry Christmas!

I am glad that it arrived safely and hope you had a Merry Christmas. Thanks again!


Wife got me one for Christmas. Ive previously used a Wilderness Frequent Flyer 5-stitch. This is more flexible and the lower profile buckle is less obtrusive when worn. Definitely my new go-to belt!

Great work on this!

Thanks for posting, and happy to hear you are liking your Specialist!



FYI, tried to wear my Specialist through airport security.

No dice; had to take it off after walking through the scanner.

Thanks for the feedback. The Specialist is not designed to go through a metal detector. We have had many users report that they have not had issue with airport security and the Specialist however as you experienced that may not always be the case.

Jackdog
01-03-2019, 04:29 PM
FYI, tried to wear my Specialist through airport security.

No dice; had to take it off after walking through the scanner.

Interesting. Ive been through Heathrow and Madrid several times wearing mine without a ping. Its been my experience if you get through LHR youre good everywhere else.

What airport did you go through?


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JAD
01-03-2019, 04:42 PM
FYI, tried to wear my Specialist through airport security.

No dice; had to take it off after walking through the scanner.

Do you mean scanner or magnetometer? The body scanner is the whooshy thing with the surrender position. The magnetometer is the door frame. A belt of any sort is not permitted in the body scanner.

Guerrero
01-03-2019, 05:30 PM
What airport did you go through?


Do you mean scanner or magnetometer? The body scanner is the whooshy thing with the surrender position. The magnetometer is the door frame. A belt of any sort is not permitted in the body scanner.

Scanner. Milwaukee

JAD
01-03-2019, 05:38 PM
Very good. No belt of any sort is permitted.

Jackdog
01-03-2019, 07:43 PM
Scanner. Milwaukee

Thank you. My Specialist has made thru the magnetometers in LHR and MAD. No scanners.


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Mack
01-22-2019, 02:29 PM
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farscott
04-11-2019, 06:06 AM
Thank you. My Specialist has made thru the magnetometers in LHR and MAD. No scanners.


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I now wear a Specialist whenever I travel by air. I even keep a spare in my carry-on bag. I usually go though the TSA Pre-Check line, so no need to remove my belt. No pings at HSV, MSO, DTW, or BNA. If I do need to remove the belt for a non Pre-Check line, it is very simple to do so as the belt is self-contained with the velcro. Once through, it is a snap to get the belt back on and get on my way to the departure gate.

Mack
04-22-2019, 01:24 PM
Coyote Specialists are now back in stock!

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einherjarvalk
04-25-2019, 11:18 PM
Any potential for a Specialist that has loop velcro all the way around in the future? I'd really love to have a Specialist that I can wear as an inner belt in conjunction with an outer belt for competition days, then drop the outer belt and wear it like a normal belt without having to swap to a dedicated EDC belt that's stiff enough to prop up my gun.

Mack
04-28-2019, 12:20 PM
Any potential for a Specialist that has loop velcro all the way around in the future? I'd really love to have a Specialist that I can wear as an inner belt in conjunction with an outer belt for competition days, then drop the outer belt and wear it like a normal belt without having to swap to a dedicated EDC belt that's stiff enough to prop up my gun.

We have been getting a lot of requests for a Specialist made in this configuration. It is something that we are looking into...

Jay585
04-28-2019, 01:04 PM
Mack,

I bought a belt off a fella here on P-F who couldn't remember what size it was. I'd like to order another belt in black, not sure which size to pick on the order form.

Total overall length (including buckle) is 47"

Which size do I pick?

Thanks!

Thy.Will.Be.Done
04-28-2019, 01:12 PM
Any plans of making this belt in widths over 1.5", 1.75" would be good if so... along with a natural brass buckle in coyote.

Mack
04-29-2019, 09:09 AM
Mack,

I bought a belt off a fella here on P-F who couldn't remember what size it was. I'd like to order another belt in black, not sure which size to pick on the order form.

Total overall length (including buckle) is 47"

Which size do I pick?

Thanks!

If you are measuring from both extremes of the belt from the edge of the buckle to the end of the tail the size would be 36. I have also included a link to our detailed sizing instructions as well in the event that anyone wishes to reference them:

https://www.graithusa.com/mens-belt-sizing


Any plans of making this belt in widths over 1.5", 1.75" would be good if so... along with a natural brass buckle in coyote.

We have no plans to release anything in 1.75". The reason is two-fold, the materials that we make the Specialist from are not available in 1.75" as standard production items.

We can have it custom milled (minimums on custom milled material are many thousands of yards per color) which would be fine if there was enough demand for 1.75" Specialists but we only get a handful of requests a year for 1.75.

We do not have any plans to release a natural brass buckle; we did do a limited release Specialist that did feature a natural brass buckle but it has been sold out for quite some time.

Clusterfrack
04-29-2019, 11:53 AM
We do not have any plans to release a natural brass buckle; we did do a limited release Specialist that did feature a natural brass buckle but it has been sold out for quite some time.

I'm very happy with my belt. I wear it every day, and even roll with it in the dojo. But, a natural brass or matte black buckle would make me buy a second one.

Thy.Will.Be.Done
05-02-2019, 06:00 PM
Do you have a thickness measurement of the belt? That might be worth including on your website, btw.

Will_H
05-02-2019, 08:48 PM
Do you have a thickness measurement of the belt? That might be worth including on your website, btw.

Measuring at home, it's 3/16" wide.


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Thy.Will.Be.Done
05-03-2019, 07:16 AM
Measuring at home, it's 3/16" wide.


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Perfect, thank you!

Mack
05-03-2019, 01:46 PM
Do you have a thickness measurement of the belt?

The approximate thickness of the Specialist is .180-.200" when factoring in the differences in the milling of the materials from lot to lot as well as colorway.

Thy.Will.Be.Done
05-03-2019, 07:33 PM
The approximate thickness of the Specialist is .180-.200" when factoring in the differences in the milling of the materials from lot to lot as well as colorway.

Thank you, sir. I am left wondering how well this belt will work in a traditional OWB strong side role with a larger/heavier frame pistol? Can it cross over WELLor is it strictly for AIWB?

Shoresy
05-03-2019, 07:41 PM
Thank you, sir. I am left wondering how well this belt will work in a traditional OWB strong side role with a larger/heavier frame pistol? Can it cross over WELLor is it strictly for AIWB?

Just my experience - not terrible, but not optimal.

I found myself reaching for something more substantial when doing heavy OWB at/around 3:00 (specifically Wilderness Instructor). Specialist will work in a pinch, but it's not the best tool for the job.

farscott
05-03-2019, 07:42 PM
Thank you, sir. I am left wondering how well this belt will work in a traditional OWB strong side role with a larger/heavier frame pistol? Can it cross over WELLor is it strictly for AIWB?

I use my Specialist for traditional IWB and OWB carry, The Specialist had no issue supporting a full-size steel 1911-pattern pistol in a Sparks Axiom or VM-2.

Mack
05-06-2019, 10:46 AM
Thank you, sir. I am left wondering how well this belt will work in a traditional OWB strong side role with a larger/heavier frame pistol? Can it cross over WELLor is it strictly for AIWB?

Although the Specialist isn't specifically designed as an OWB belt we have many customers that use it for OWB carry. We also have customers use their Specialists for USPSA/IDPA as well. The Specialist's scuba webbing core makes the belt have quite a bit of vertical rigidity which makes it more sturdy than most 'instructor style' belts.

mdw1016
05-06-2019, 09:39 PM
We have been getting a lot of requests for a Specialist made in this configuration. It is something that we are looking into...

Another request for the same thing -- loop velcro that extends all the way around the belt so I can use it as an inner belt. I wear a Ronin TF outer belt as my gun belt for work and have been using the VDevGru belt as my inner belt because it has velcro that extends about half way around the belt. When I asked about the VDevGru belt getting more velcro I was told that there wasn't enough interest for him to make that an option. If you guys can make it an option that would be awesome for a lot of people like me who walk around in normal clothes with a concealed handgun and have a gun belt and PC nearby or in the truck that may have to go on over what I'm already wearing.

Mack
05-07-2019, 10:50 AM
Another request for the same thing -- loop velcro that extends all the way around the belt so I can use it as an inner belt. I wear a Ronin TF outer belt as my gun belt for work and have been using the VDevGru belt as my inner belt because it has velcro that extends about half way around the belt. When I asked about the VDevGru belt getting more velcro I was told that there wasn't enough interest for him to make that an option. If you guys can make it an option that would be awesome for a lot of people like me who walk around in normal clothes with a concealed handgun and have a gun belt and PC nearby or in the truck that may have to go on over what I'm already wearing.

All I can say is that if you are interested in a Specialist in this configuration you should sign up for our newsletter if you haven't already done so, that's where all our new product announcements are made...

Whiskey_Bravo
05-09-2019, 11:43 AM
Another request for the same thing -- loop velcro that extends all the way around the belt so I can use it as an inner belt. I wear a Ronin TF outer belt as my gun belt for work and have been using the VDevGru belt as my inner belt because it has velcro that extends about half way around the belt. When I asked about the VDevGru belt getting more velcro I was told that there wasn't enough interest for him to make that an option. If you guys can make it an option that would be awesome for a lot of people like me who walk around in normal clothes with a concealed handgun and have a gun belt and PC nearby or in the truck that may have to go on over what I'm already wearing.

I sent an email with the same request. Got the same reply as well about no plan right now due to lack of demand but hopefully we can change that!

Mack
05-09-2019, 01:17 PM
I sent an email with the same request. Got the same reply as well about no plan right now due to lack of demand but hopefully we can change that!

We were going to wait until closer to the official release to make it known but we have designed a belt in this configuration and it is currently undergoing testing :) If you have not done so already please sign up for our newsletter to be notified via e-mail when it is available.

OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
05-09-2019, 01:43 PM
We were going to wait until closer to the official release to make it known but we have designed a belt in this configuration and it is currently undergoing testing :) If you have not done so already please sign up for our newsletter to be notified via e-mail when it is available.

So now looking @ a potential 4th belt from Graith, those & a solid EDC leather wallet, perhaps its time to remove ya from my Christmas card list.

eb07
05-09-2019, 01:45 PM
Been a Wilderness guy my whole life. Just ordered one to replace my old one. Can't wait to try it out.

Whiskey_Bravo
05-09-2019, 09:16 PM
We were going to wait until closer to the official release to make it known but we have designed a belt in this configuration and it is currently undergoing testing :) If you have not done so already please sign up for our newsletter to be notified via e-mail when it is available.

Thank you so much! Very excited to hear this.

karmapolice

Kram
05-10-2019, 08:43 AM
Been a Wilderness guy my whole life. Just ordered one to replace my old one. Can't wait to try it out.

Same here. Order placed. Looking forward to trying this belt out.

karmapolice
05-10-2019, 09:14 AM
Thank you so much! Very excited to hear this.

karmapolice

Yes! very excited. I'm the odd dude probably though who needs one lined on the outside with hook!

Ski85
05-10-2019, 06:12 PM
Been wearing mine for about a week now. I love it. The buckle design is exactly what I've been looking for in a belt for aiwb. The belt has enough rigidity to hold everything in place and allow a good draw, but it's pliable enough to be really comfortable.

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JSGlock34
05-11-2019, 08:09 AM
We were going to wait until closer to the official release to make it known but we have designed a belt in this configuration and it is currently undergoing testing :) If you have not done so already please sign up for our newsletter to be notified via e-mail when it is available.

Outstanding - I'll be ordering one of these.

eb07
05-15-2019, 06:43 PM
Been a Wilderness guy my whole life. Just ordered one to replace my old one. Can't wait to try it out.


Got it today immediately took off my old belt put this on and strapped on my 1911 commander appendix and I must say you outdid yourself this is a great well built belt with a very low profile buckle. Simple and functional. . I look forward to many years of service.

Crash41984
05-16-2019, 09:56 AM
I started another thread a few weeks ago asking which belt I should look at to replace the Wilderness 5-Stitch belts I've been wearing for years. I was directed to this thread and ordered a Specialist after reviewing the posts. I've had this guy on for a couple of days and I'm completely sold on this design. It solved many printing and comfort issues that I had just grown to accept. Frankly, I'm kind of pissed that I did not discover this belt sooner. For those like me that carry AIWB exclusively for edc, this belt is a real winner.

Side note: I use JMCK AIWB holsters with a split loop, and straddle a belt loop at 1:00. Even though the Specialist tail isn't rigid like my 5-Stitch belts, I can thread it quick and easy using a small pair of tweezers.

Mack
05-20-2019, 10:44 AM
An all new Specialist line is coming soon. If you want a classic Specialist make sure you pick one up this week.

38330

CR78
05-21-2019, 08:27 AM
Hard to imagine an improvement over the current Specialist, but I'm excited to see what you've come up with. Will we get a preview of the new offering before the current style of Specialists are unavailable?

Thy.Will.Be.Done
05-21-2019, 10:02 AM
Hard to imagine an improvement over the current Specialist, but I'm excited to see what you've come up with. Will we get a preview of the new offering before the current style of Specialists are unavailable?

I could imagine it being better if it got the same performance, but was constructed of leather. Not counting on that one coming true though, but I am excited to see... I help off on getting one of these for a bit so hopefully I like the new ones.

Mack
05-23-2019, 09:36 AM
Hard to imagine an improvement over the current Specialist, but I'm excited to see what you've come up with. Will we get a preview of the new offering before the current style of Specialists are unavailable?

Here are some of the features of the new design:

-Nylon buckle that is lower profile, stronger, and provides active retention of the tail (it is also non-reflective / low IR signature and non metallic)
-Specialized loop that will have the longest cycle life of any hook and loop product
-New stitching pattern on the tail / hook to increase the hook strength
-Seam sealant applied to hook to increase durability
-End of tail is chemically stiffened to make it easier to thread through fixed loop attachments

38384

dontshakepandas
05-23-2019, 09:39 AM
Mack,
When will the new version be available? I'd like to pick one up before an upcoming trip.

Thy.Will.Be.Done
05-23-2019, 09:50 AM
Will the price remain the same for the new version?

Larry T
05-23-2019, 09:55 AM
Talk about timing. I just got my belt a couple of weeks ago. Am I going to wish I waited?

HCountyGuy
05-23-2019, 09:56 AM
Here are some of the features of the new design:

-Nylon buckle that is lower profile, stronger, and provides active retention of the tail (it is also non-reflective / low IR signature and non metallic)
-Specialized loop that will have the longest cycle life of any hook and loop product
-New stitching pattern on the tail / hook to increase the hook strength
-Seam sealant applied to hook to increase durability
-End of tail is chemically stiffened to make it easier to thread through fixed loop attachments

38384

That sounds and looks awesome.

Thank you for always looking to improve on your product! I see you took notice of the comments elsewhere regarding feeding the tail through loops.

Im really looking forward to this and hope to order it soon to see if itll replace my current specialist.

Clusterfrack
05-23-2019, 10:27 AM
Looks good. Will be buying one.

BTW, for martial arts that use street clothes, the Graith Specialist belt is the best option I have found.

blues
05-23-2019, 12:23 PM
The approximate thickness of the Specialist is .180-.200" when factoring in the differences in the milling of the materials from lot to lot as well as colorway.

I just measured the "Partition" which was essentially the same belt with the AustriAlpin Cobra Frame buckle and it's exactly .190"

Good stuff!

Totem Polar
05-23-2019, 12:31 PM
When does the new iteration come with P-F orange" lining?

;)

SAWBONES
05-23-2019, 01:57 PM
HOW SOON CAN I GET ONE?!

Mack
05-23-2019, 07:24 PM
The updated Specialist will be available on our website on May 27.

As far as pricing it will still be under $50. There is a good bit of extra labor that goes into the new changes but I think most everyone will find the added functionality well worth the small price difference.

Also as a heads up tomorrow we will be posting a preview of the second of the three new belts that will be coming out.

makul
05-23-2019, 08:54 PM
Just my luck. Just got one 2 weeks ago.

Cecil Burch
05-24-2019, 11:31 AM
Here are some of the features of the new design:

-Nylon buckle that is lower profile, stronger, and provides active retention of the tail (it is also non-reflective / low IR signature and non metallic)
-Specialized loop that will have the longest cycle life of any hook and loop product
-New stitching pattern on the tail / hook to increase the hook strength
-Seam sealant applied to hook to increase durability
-End of tail is chemically stiffened to make it easier to thread through fixed loop attachments

38384


Take my money now!

Cookie Monster
05-24-2019, 04:02 PM
Any chance for a PF Orange run on these?

A man can dream.

drummer
05-24-2019, 09:13 PM
Interesting. I've got one of the original Pre-Graith belts with the trip-glide buckle that's been my primary off-duty belt for a long time. I recently picked up another Graith belt and prefer the metal loop buckle. It doesn't have as much grip on the nylon belt but I don't feel that it hurts anything. The new Specialist has become my go-to belt. And the metal buckle doesn't look "tactical" for those rare occasions that I wear it tucked in.

I am excited about the Specialist underbelt. I've been wanting an underbelt with buckle for a llllooooonnnngggg time. I think it will go great with my Ronin duty belt.

Mack
05-27-2019, 11:18 AM
The Specialist.2 is now up on our site!

https://www.graithusa.com/shop

We also have a new IG account which can be found below:

https://www.instagram.com/graith_gear/

Also if you have not done so already and would like notifications on new product releases, limited/special editions please sign up for our newsletter.

dontshakepandas
05-27-2019, 02:36 PM
The Specialist.2 is now up on our site!

https://www.graithusa.com/shop

We also have a new IG account which can be found below:

https://www.instagram.com/graith_gear/

Also if you have not done so already and would like notifications on new product releases, limited/special editions please sign up for our newsletter.Hey Mack,
Any plans to release this in the gray color that was available on the old style?

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BK14
05-27-2019, 03:33 PM
The Specialist.2 is now up on our site!



Just to clarify before I order..... Sizing on the duty belt is the same as the old specialist? And it is loop, as in the soft side of the Velcro on the belt right?

Thanks!

Clusterfrack
05-27-2019, 04:41 PM
Hey Mack,
Any plans to release this in the gray color that was available on the old style?

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And multicam and black multicam?

SAWBONES
05-27-2019, 04:59 PM
Order placed