M&P 15-22 OOB lost extractor

[Crow Hunter]

Had a OOB on my M&P 15-22 this afternoon. Of course, right after I sighted in my new Primary Arms RDS on it...

So my extractor and pin disappeared into the nether somewhere. I found the spring.

Anyone know where I can get a replacement assembly?

PSA:

Stay away from Remington Golden, I knew better, but I still have a bunch (normally I only use it in revolvers) but I ran out of Automatch right after sighting in and I wanted to fire a few more rounds...

[willie]

From Brownell's.

[Lomshek]

Stay away from Remington Golden,

Can't be stated enough if you have an autoloader. They're horrible.

Try CCI standard velocity or Mini-Mags if you want a cleaner and more accurate round than Automatch. I like the Mini-Mags for the copper washed bullet. I haven't personally used any but my fellow Appleseed instructors on that forum speak highly of CCI's AR Tactical ammo as being even cleaner than Mini-Mags.

[Westtexasrancher]

I left a scathing message with s&w yesterday about this same issue! Its not just us. My parts are lying in the desert somewhere.

[psalms144.1]

I had a similar event with mine. Called S&W - they sent a shipping label to have the rifle returned. In about two weeks it was back, all repaired, and two extra mags in the box for good measure.

[Crow Hunter]

I had a similar event with mine. Called S&W - they sent a shipping label to have the rifle returned. In about two weeks it was back, all repaired, and two extra mags in the box for good measure.

Whole rifle?

If whole rifle, did you strip it of optics and such or just throw it in the box?

I guess there is no chance they would just ship me the parts?

[psalms144.1]

Whole rifle?

If whole rifle, did you strip it of optics and such or just throw it in the box?

I guess there is no chance they would just ship me the parts?I just took the H1 off it - I knew where it was mounted and it gave me an excuse to shoot some more when it came back. Other than the RDS, it was pretty much stock, so nothing else to worry about. S&W said they wanted the whole rifle to make sure there was no other damage to it - so I guess they gave the whole rifle the once over.

This was more than 5 years back, not sure how they're handling this now.

[Hizzie]

A very well known issue with the 15-22. The manuals used to specifically warn against the Remington Golden Bullet. Contact S&W CS.

[Crow Hunter]

Can't be stated enough if you have an autoloader. They're horrible.

Try CCI standard velocity or Mini-Mags if you want a cleaner and more accurate round than Automatch. I like the Mini-Mags for the copper washed bullet. I haven't personally used any but my fellow Appleseed instructors on that forum speak highly of CCI's AR Tactical ammo as being even cleaner than Mini-Mags.

I have both of the others and I have tried the AR Tactical. I liked it but it is easier for me to find the Automatch locally. I have to go to Academy to find the AR Tactical rounds. No LGS or Wally World carries it.

I have fairly significant stash of Remington Golden that I accumulated when that was pretty much the only recommended round for the AA conversion. I won't be buying any more and won't be using it in any autos anymore.

[Crow Hunter]

A very well known issue with the 15-22. The manuals used to specifically warn against the Remington Golden Bullet. Contact S&W CS.

I'll definitely give them a buzz tomorrow. They were very helpful with my Model 63 a couple of months ago that needed a chamfer on the forcing cone, at it works great now.

[Westtexasrancher]

They want me to send the whole rifle in, also. We will see how it goes.

[jandbj]

They want me to send the whole rifle in, also. We will see how it goes.

This sort of thing is my one fear with my SBR’d 15/22. Knock on wood, 17k with no issues thus far.

[LittleLebowski]

Find a magnet and cast over the ground where you think you lost the part.

[Crow Hunter]

They want me to send the whole rifle in, also. We will see how it goes.

They are just sending me the parts surprisingly.

I called and said that I had a OOB this weekend and I was looking for parts but couldn't find anywhere to get them and he asked for my name and address and said: "Okay, that should take care of you."

I asked him did he want my serial number and he said: "Nope, you are good."

So hopefully I will have it up and running again shortly.

I will update after I get in the parts.

[Crow Hunter]

Find a magnet and cast over the ground where you think you lost the part.

We looked for a while but it is in a backyard and we didn't see hide nor hair of it. Didn't think about trying a magnet but being in an open field it would probably have required more luck than anything. I wish someone had been looking in my direction when I was shooting they might have seen it fly out.

Still might try this weekend when I go back to my brother's.

[StraitR]

I realize shooting bulk box 22lr is kind of the point, but I stay away from it in my 15-22. Seems the rounds at the top of the box are fine, but the weight of those will often loosen the projectiles/bullets of the rounds on the bottom of the box. The further I've gotten into a 555 box for instance, the more failures (FTF) I've experienced, and in the 15-22, it can cause OOB detonations. The good news is that the parts are easily replaced and Smith's CS has been excellent IME.

I'll run all the cheap bulk stuff through my 10/22, Henry H001, and a 22/45, but I stick to Mini-Mags in the 15-22. Never had a problem, and I'm somewhere north of 5k through my 15-22.

Remington Golden Bullets are junk, and I'll shoot them through the Henry lever, but that's about it. As pointed out earlier, S&W at one time specifically named the Golden Bullets as a no-go in the 15-22 manual. Not sure if they still do that or not, but they caused enough OOB incidents to earn a spot in the manual.

[littlejerry]

What about the 15-22 makes it more prone to OOB than a 10/22? I've been looking at getting one or the other for a steel challenge rifle.

[Crow Hunter]

Just to update.

The plunger and spring are on back order but they did send me the extractor. I called to ask about only getting the extractor and not the other parts and apparently set me up to get an extra set of parts too. :cool:

Kudos to S&W!

Hopefully I will be getting parts before long. We finally have some warm weather and no rain.

[Jeff22]

I bought a 15-22 late in 2009.

The early guns had some kind of extractor problem resulting in the gun firing out of battery.

It happened to me and I sent it back to S&W and they replaced the extractor and threw in a couple of new magazines.

No problems since then. I shoot that gun pretty frequently. It runs best with CCI mini-mags (so does every other auto loading .22 I think) but even runs with standard velocity .22s with a lead bullet (as long as the gun starts out clean and lubed)

30 years ago Remington Golden Bullets were much more consistent in their quality control. I fired THOUSANDS of them through different guns with only the occasional malfunction. It's disappointing to see how their QC has declined

[Crow Hunter]

Update again.

I received my parts about a week ago but didn't have a chance to install them and test until this weekend. It was really simple to do. Pretty much put in the spring, put the plunger into the end of the spring with the tab facing away from the bolt then use the extractor to compress it all until it snaps into place and click you are done. Very simple once you figure it out. Technically it would be something you could fix while at the range with no tools if you had extra parts or could find the parts that left the gun.

Works fine now.

I did a thorough cleaning while I had it apart and it didn't really need it, so it wasn't a problem with crud causing the OOB.

Hopefully staying away from Remington Golden will keep all the bits and pieces in the bolt. :) I only have 2 boxes of that Golden junk left and I will be using it exclusively in my Marlin 881 or 39a (assuming someone doesn't buy it from me first).