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Glenn E. Meyer
03-26-2018, 03:25 PM
A discussion of different semi types and why some are better, worse or more dangerous.

FYI, folks.

https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2018/03/as-students-march-for-our-lives-what-are-the-feasible-aims-for-gun-control/556460/
VT1032
03-26-2018, 03:32 PM
Wow, what utter garbage...
Glenn E. Meyer
03-26-2018, 03:46 PM
That's the kind of opinions that are out there. I saw a Meet the Press that had pro and antigun plain old folks discuss the issues. The discussion was a battle of ignoramuses on both side. Of course, progun folks are people I would support but they weren't fonts of articulate knowledge. The antis were babbling about how ARs shoot faster bullets and are no good against B-2 bombers.
Totem Polar
03-26-2018, 03:49 PM
Always good to see how the other side thinks. Sort of.
LOKNLOD
03-26-2018, 03:54 PM
Always good to see how the other side thinks. Sort of.

Good, in a “stare into the abyss” kind of way.
MistWolf
03-26-2018, 04:06 PM
I think I lost 30 IQ points and three quarters of my firearms and technical knowledge while trying to read that "article". Glenn, you need to put a warning on that link.
Joe in PNG
03-26-2018, 04:08 PM
The purpose of stories like that is not to inform, but propagandize.
Glenn E. Meyer
03-26-2018, 04:11 PM
By Jove, you've got it! I've noticed that the 'progun' folks (like those on MTP, for a fair and balanced view) really don't know that much with these sort of presentations. Wonder why?

You get some chatter and then the progun person sees the antigun light!
GyroF-16
03-26-2018, 04:15 PM
Wow. Just wow.

After I got through the “it takes 15 sec to change a mag on a Mini-14 or an AK” (which evidently have lower-capacity magazines...),

Then I got to the assertion that the .223 round has MUCH more kinetic energy than the 30-06 of the M1 Garand.

That’s where I had to stop.

All this “knowledge” in the “ban guns” camp frankly scares me. It would be impossible to have a reasoned discussion with these people until we can free them from the burden of their “alternative facts.”
Totem Polar
03-26-2018, 05:52 PM
All this “knowledge” in the “ban guns” camp frankly scares me. It would be impossible to have a reasoned discussion with these people until we can free them from the burden of their “alternative facts.”


https://www.dottysdoodles.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Andthereinliestherub-768x512.jpg


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We are dealing with the tech equivalent of this:

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TDA
03-31-2018, 08:58 PM
If I see someone making a 15 second Ak/Mini mag change, I reserve the right to sing “The cow kicked Nelly” at the top of my lungs throughout the process while looking at my watch and capering.

Well, I guess I wouldn’t really, but in a competition setting those times just mean you’ve never practiced at all.