shooting glasses & ear muffs

[jlw]

For those of you that wear muffs, what shooting glasses are you using?

I'm having an issue with the muffs pressing against the temple bar/ear piece to the point that by the end of the patch it is getting fairly painful.

I have been looking at the Rudy Project offerings but don't want to overlook anything.

[orionz06]

I am currently using Oakley Radars but if I had to start over today I would look into Rudy's.

[NickA]

These look promising but haven't tried them myself:
http://www.esseyepro.com/Suppressor_detail.html

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[MikeyC]

I've used the low profile 3M or MSA safety glasses from Home Depot. At 5 bucks a set they're practically disposable, and the ear pieces are some of the thinnest I've seen.

[JV_]

Also, MSA Sordins with the gel cups made a very big difference and are much more comfortable no matter what glasses I am wearing.I agree.

[jetfire]

Rudy Project Karboneye for eye pro; they have a flat bar made from carbon fiber or some nonsense that doesn't hurt when earpro press on it.

[EricM]

These look promising but haven't tried them myself:
http://www.esseyepro.com/Suppressor_detail.html

Those are what I wear, I tried out nearly a dozen different types including several Rudy Project models (didn't make the Karboneye at the time though) and for me the ESS Crossbow Suppressor had the best fit, coverage, and comfort. I've had them for about a year and am still very happy with them. I wear them with the Sordins with gel cups as others have mentioned, quite comfortable. One minor thing to be aware of is they don't stay on quite as well as standard glasses if you have your muffs off, might bother someone who sometimes shoots with only plugs (although I think they did include a behind-the-head elastic strap in the package if you need it). I bought mine in a kit that included a nice hard case, smoke and clear lenses, one low-profile Suppressor frame, and one standard frame. Eventually I bought a second kit so I had both lenses in the Suppressor frames and the rest as spares or for guests.

[VolGrad]

Howard Leight Impact Sport Electronic Earmuffs, the $50 green ones
Rudy Project Noyz with Photo ImpactX Red & Clear lenses

I used to have the same problem. I thought it was the ear muffs. I was ready to buy a $250 set of Sordins until I stumbled upon the Rudy Project glasses. This solved the issue completely.

Previously, I wore Wiley-X or Revision glasses. I will never go back.

[TGS]

I own:

Wiley-X Romers: Huge, do not fit my 7" grape well. The way the lens is taken out/put in sucks. Would work underneath muffs if you're dome is big enough for the arm to actually rest against your temple.

ESS I.C.E.: I've never met anyone who likes these. They are very insecure and constantly fall off, the temple piece is basically a plastic toothpick but is good if you wear muffs. Fog up very easily even when using product. They're also freaking huge lenses, and if you wore a white helmet/bump cap you'd probably look like an X-Wing pilot from Star Wars.

ESS CDI: Fit my 7" head very well. Decently comfortable underneath muffs as they're flat temples, though wide. Can also wear them as sunglasses out in town without looking like a dork. Fog easily like the I.C.E, though, and the vision to the sides is noticeably impaired.

Oakley M-Frame 2.0: Like them. Fit my small head very well, do not easily fog, great coverage and vision. Comfortable under muffs.

If you don't feel the need for 180* coverage, a nice pair of classic shooting glasses will be awesome. When I feel like getting my Jim Zubiena (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q2Il86-38A) on, I've got a nice yellow lens set I inherited from gramps, they use bendable rubber-coated wire frames that wrap around the ear too. Awesomely comfortable.

The absolute best improvement for comfort I made was buying a pair of Peltors simply so I could have gel ear cups. Before those, I was wearing Howard Leights which were uncomfortable even without glasses.

If you end up wanting Oakley's, see if you can get an account with US Standard Issue, the military marketing department of Oakley. I got my complete M-Frame package for $80, IIRC.

[Chris Rhines]

Lately I've been using Decot Revel 64 shooting glasses, which have wire earpieces. Very comfortable, very good coverage, and reasonably priced Rx lenses.

-C

[Slavex]

Oakley Radar, vented lenses. Rudy's are nice, but I prefer the coverage the Radars give. Much larger lens.

[JWinTN]

I had the same problem back when I was wearing the cheap glasses from Wal-mart. I went with the ESS Suppressors, and then I tried some Rudy Projects and was sold on the superior lenses. I was worried about the thick-ish temple arms on the Rudy's, but it hasn't been a problem. However, I think it is mostly due to the way I fit my muffs now (Howard Leight Impacts). I found that much of the discomfort came from allowing the cups to ride too low, which pushed the temple arms down, not in, on my ears. I discovered this when I was still experiencing discomfort with the ESS glasses. So I now make sure to keep my ear cups riding as high as possible while retaining an adequate seal, and I make sure to keep them adjusted throughout the time I wear them. I no longer have a problem, even with the relatively thick arms of the Rudy Project glasses.


Oakley Radar, vented lenses. Rudy's are nice, but I prefer the coverage the Radars give. Much larger lens.

I have the Rudy Genetyks, and they seem to have similar coverage to the Radars.

[bdcheung]

My muffs: Howard Leight Impact Sport ($50) (http://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-R-01526-Electronic-Earmuff/dp/B001T7QJ9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328631782&sr=8-1)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81G-OpPY8DL._AA1500_.jpg

My eyepro: Radians Clay Pro Shooting Glasses ($15) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F7T4OQ/ref=oh_o03_s00_i00_details)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31M8FD3FMTL._SS360_.jpg

I like the Radians because the arms are super thin. They seal extremely well under my earpro and cause no pain on my temples.

[peterb]

David Clark sells temple pads to help fill the gap in the muff seal. I've made my own from weatherstripping foam.
http://www.davidclark.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=62

[mnealtx]

A few months back, I picked up a set of the Revision Vipertail sunglasses. Review (with tardy range report follow-up) is here (http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?1411-Revision-Eyewear-Vipertail-review-(non-shooting)).

[BLACK]

For those of you that wear muffs, what shooting glasses are you using?

I'm having an issue with the muffs pressing against the temple bar/ear piece to the point that by the end of the patch it is getting fairly painful.

I have been looking at the Rudy Project offerings but don't want to overlook anything.

I was using the Wiley X SG-1 for a long while until the padding around the eye piece started falling off...I like the SG-1 kit in particular becuase of the pliable yet rigid frame on top of the different attachments. You can make them into goggles or sunglasses. Kits run fairly cheap if you shop around... the MSRP on them is around that of the OAkleys but you can get them off ebay for 40.00 NIB.
I am now using the Oakley SI M frame which work pretty well with earpro and a helmet.
There is also the Revision Sawfly and ESS ICE which are pretty easy on the wallet over the Oakleys.

What I like most about my Oakleys is they do not fog while running around with earpro and a full kit., day or night.

[BLACK]

Oakley Radar, vented lenses. Rudy's are nice, but I prefer the coverage the Radars give. Much larger lens.

Going to find me a pair of these.

[Joe Mamma]

I've been dealing with the same issue as the original poster. I've tried the Radians Clay Pro Shooting glasses (and others) and was not happy with them. After wearing the Radians with muffs for a long time, they hurt.

I've recently used Howard Leight Vapor II or (Vapor 2) and love them. The ear piece is very thin and flat. They retail for about $10.

Joe Mamma

[NEPAKevin]

Rudy Zyons with ProEars.

[Cool Breeze]

howard leight impact sport and ess crossbow suppressor

[Dave J]

Peltors with gel earcups, and Oakley SI-M 2.0's work for me.

The gel cups really make a difference if you're wearing them for extended periods of time.

[Up1911Fan]

I use the Howard Leight Impact Sport earpro with Rudy Project Rydons. They don't bother me the way some people report.

[Nik the Greek]

Howard Leight Impact Sports and Smith Optics Arc compacts. The thicker arms don't interfere with the ear pro, and they're comfy.

[michaeljj]

I also think that Oakley Radars is known for its better quality. Rudy's is also one of among the top priority choices. Thanks for sharing your views.
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[littlejerry]

Howard leight electronic ear pro and ESS crossbow suppressor glasses.

It is a good low-budget option. I'm satisfied although I still double up on ear-pro at indoor ranges if someone has a rifle.

[dickmadison]

Howard leight electronic ear pro and ESS crossbow suppressor glasses.

It is a good low-budget option. I'm satisfied although I still double up on ear-pro at indoor ranges if someone has a rifle.

I use the exact same thing. Additionally, I generally always double up no matter what the circumstances.

[shootist26]

Howard Leights and ESS glasses! No more shitty generic eye protection for me...better glasses are worth it.

[Slavex]

Since I replied to this post I've made a large change in my PPE. I used to run a set of Sordins with Oakley Radars, the Sordins worked great and the gel cups rule for good ear coverage with all types of glasses, however once getting a pair of custom molded ear pros made the Sordins have been collecting dust. I still believe them to be the best electronic hearing protection made, but for some reason I started to become sensitive to the pressure they put on my head, not just where the glasses sit either. Going to custom ears made all the difference and I no longer worry about knocking the Sordins off during a stage that requires a strange position or has obstacles in it.
If you find that your choice of glasses doesn't work with your hearing protection, consider getting custom ones made instead of shopping for new glasses.

[dickmadison]

Since I replied to this post I've made a large change in my PPE. I used to run a set of Sordins with Oakley Radars, the Sordins worked great and the gel cups rule for good ear coverage with all types of glasses, however once getting a pair of custom molded ear pros made the Sordins have been collecting dust. I still believe them to be the best electronic hearing protection made, but for some reason I started to become sensitive to the pressure they put on my head, not just where the glasses sit either. Going to custom ears made all the difference and I no longer worry about knocking the Sordins off during a stage that requires a strange position or has obstacles in it.
If you find that your choice of glasses doesn't work with your hearing protection, consider getting custom ones made instead of shopping for new glasses.

Do you mind me asking what brand of custom molded hearing protection you use?

[Noleshooter]

I have a fairly fat head that causes issues with most glasses. I bought Rudy Magsters to try out and they were not wide enough for me to wear comfortably. The Rydon Flexes were OK, but still not right. Finally I picked up a pair of Oakley Radars and they fit me melon perfectly and give me wide coverage for shooting steel and quality lenses to protect my eyes (PRK surgery, sensitive to UV light).

I don't have any issues with them wearing Howard Leight green muffs.

[JSGlock34]

For those who have access to the Oakley SI program, I highly recommend the new SI Ballistic M Frame 3.0. I've found them exceptionally comfortable under ear pro. I found the older M Frames far too big, but the 3.0 is much improved.

https://www.oakleysi.com/Product_Images/3569D4D8-5056-8C33-2209AB550FC7D2CF.jpg

[TGS]

For those who have access to the Oakley SI program, I highly recommend the new SI Ballistic M Frame 3.0. I've found them exceptionally comfortable under ear pro. I found the older M Frames far too big, but the 3.0 is much improved.

Cool! I like my 2.0's, but I can still see this being a nice improvement. Gotta order!

[Slavex]

I got my custom made ear plugs locally here in BC, HearSmart Solutions, the owner came right out to the range to take the impressions from a bunch of us. I've got 4 sets of them, vented, solid, speakers (for mp3 player) another solid set for work and a custom Jawbone earpiece as well. I'll never go back to over the ears again unless I need to double plug, for instance, rifle fire indoors or something. Cost for the solid plugs was $100 CDN and I claimed it on my work medical plan. Single best investment for PPE ever.

[LHS]

I use some older Oakley folding M-frames, but I hated the thick rubber sheaths on the ear pieces. Once I removed those rubber pieces, I found they work great, no matter what earpro I'm using.