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NETim
03-25-2018, 05:57 PM
https://medium.com/@bjcampbell/everybodys-lying-about-the-link-between-gun-ownership-and-homicide-1108ed400be5

GardoneVT
03-25-2018, 06:13 PM
https://medium.com/@bjcampbell/everybodys-lying-about-the-link-between-gun-ownership-and-homicide-1108ed400be5

Unfortunately,the article is inaccurate.

Problem #1; quantifying gun ownership is materially impossible. There are criminals with guns who for obvious reasons won’t be answering an ownership survey. Then there’s law abiding citizens who distrust questions about their gun collection and keep that information close to the vest. Even 4473s aren necessarily a good way to measure who owns what. So academic articles computing gun ownership based on sample data are not accurate.

Problem #2: unfortunately LE statistics aren’t accurate either. Since many police agencies are measured good or bad by crime stats,it incentivizes politicians and department managers to “juke the stats”. That part of “The Wire” isn’t fiction unfortunately, so with many urban PDs classifying armed robberies as “misdemeanor assaults” to look good before election season,the other side of the stat ledger is also probably wrong. As a general indicator of national trends LE stats are a decent metric for national and regional crime,however the data is suspect for any specific evaluation of correlation between variable a (gun ownership) and crime type(variable B). With those points in mind I’m not surprised the R-squared values are low. It’s comparing noise to noise.

Totem Polar
03-25-2018, 06:14 PM
Must read again to totally get, because, the racist maths.

But I like the first read. Thanks for posting that.

BCG
03-25-2018, 07:57 PM
Here's a comparison of gun-owner control laws (as graded by the Brady Center) vs violent crime rates :

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7hHmCLbC5yfUllXZklac3VVY0U/

YVK
03-25-2018, 10:15 PM
The dude is neglecting the fact that 100 hunting and sporting shotguns purchased after extensive application and vetting process that is in place in many countries count just the same towards gun ownership as 100 Glocks and Lorcins acquired through whatever channels. US annual firearm homicide rate is between 3 and 4 per 100K, no advanced country that I know of, West or Asia, has that exceed 0.5. I see zero benefit to present that in somehow more favorable way. It is what it is, we own it, we do what we can, firearms homicide is a very heterogeneous entity too, no thank you 2A ain't going anywhere.