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03RN
03-15-2018, 06:11 PM
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I have not shot with it yet but will tomorrow. Just bringing the gun up to eye level there is no searching​ for the dot. It's as fast imo as any shoulder fired RDS weapon to pic up the dot and much faster than any handgun/rmr.

I'll post my thoughts on it's use tomorrow.

03RN
03-15-2018, 06:16 PM
I also found a lnib 618 I might try on this. If not it'll go on a stocked 590

03RN
03-16-2018, 06:45 PM
https://youtu.be/YX_AliZv0j4

I still need to work on recoil management but it's pretty sweet

03RN
03-16-2018, 07:10 PM
25 yards federal flight control
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25 feet suprema
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25 yards
2 rounds buck to the face
10 rounds slugs as fast as I could
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Unobtanium
03-16-2018, 08:28 PM
https://youtu.be/YX_AliZv0j4

I still need to work on recoil management but it's pretty sweet

Well damn. I don't think I've ever actually SEEN a SW being fired before. That actually looks absurdly handy! Think about it for hiking in bear country with Federal DP's or something! Or for pretty much anything, I guess.

LittleLebowski
03-16-2018, 08:53 PM
I love this thread.

GJM
03-16-2018, 09:26 PM
Well damn. I don't think I've ever actually SEEN a SW being fired before. That actually looks absurdly handy! Think about it for hiking in bear country with Federal DP's or something! Or for pretty much anything, I guess.

Recoil with Brenneke slugs would be interesting, not to mention the sight in session.

Sigfan26
03-16-2018, 09:30 PM
These guns aren’t difficult to shoot... if you port it, it gets even easier.


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Totem Polar
03-16-2018, 09:38 PM
I think I need a shockwave with a dot.

Hey 03RN, I'd feel better if you had some sort of positive stop/guard for your support hand on that slide... isn't there supposed to be a strap?

Spartan1980
03-16-2018, 09:39 PM
These guns aren’t difficult to shoot... if you port it, it gets even easier.


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A shotgun may just be the only gun I could stand being ported.

Sigfan26
03-16-2018, 10:03 PM
A shotgun may just be the only gun I could stand being ported.

About the only one that comes close to deserving it


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GJM
03-16-2018, 10:04 PM
If you plan to shoot this gun defensively, out in the field, and don’t hike with ear pro on, I can assure you by experience, that shooting a ported 14 inch shorty is painful, and significantly louder than a standard 14.

Sigfan26
03-16-2018, 10:40 PM
If you plan to shoot this gun defensively, out in the field, and don’t hike with ear pro on, I can assure you by experience, that shooting a ported 14 inch shorty is painful, and significantly louder than a standard 14.

It certainly beats the alternative to not discharging the weapon in the given situation, though.


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GJM
03-16-2018, 11:30 PM
It certainly beats the alternative to not discharging the weapon in the given situation, though.


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If the question is hurt your ears, or be mauled, of course I will take ringing in my ears. There is an alternative, and that is an unported barrel. In case anyone is interested, I have three or four surplus ported, Vang’d and NP3’d 14 inch 870 barrels, that I replaced with unported barrels. Porting really takes the fun out of a warning shot!

03RN
03-17-2018, 02:55 AM
Well damn. I don't think I've ever actually SEEN a SW being fired before. That actually looks absurdly handy! Think about it for hiking in bear country with Federal DP's or something! Or for pretty much anything, I guess.

I made a shockwave for just that reason. It's been on quite a few backpacking trips.
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So I was sitting against that stump, smoking my pipe, enjoying the day.
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I look off to my left and see Mr. Fuzzybritches walk by. Just chilling.
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Not concerning. He was 130 paces away and judging from his tracks was only a 200pounder. I slept out under the stars about 20 yards away. Of course I went back during hunting season and didn't see him.

03RN
03-17-2018, 03:10 AM
Recoil with Brenneke slugs would be interesting, not to mention the sight in session.

I sighted the rmr with federal deep penatrator true ball load. It's 1 oz at 1350fps. The Remington sluggers are going 1560fps and noticably less controllable with a ton of flash. I just received a case of the federals and will keep them for serious slug needs.

Here are 5 rounds. The there are the 4 dead center with one a couple inches above the 8 on the R. That was me. These guns are not "easy" to shoot and I must of either anticipated the shot or shot to fast.
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The buckshot holes were from the federal flight control 00 and the first round was a little R so I clicked L. Second round was too far L so I clicked back right and split the difference.
The neck shot was the flight control at 15 yards

03RN
03-17-2018, 03:15 AM
I think I need a shockwave with a dot.

Hey 03RN, I'd feel better if you had some sort of positive stop/guard for your support hand on that slide... isn't there supposed to be a strap?

I don't like it. I trust my grip more than some flimsy nylon. My thought was also that if I ever grabbed this gun in the dark, in a rush my hand could be over the strap and it could reduce my grip.
Also, the way I shoot it, I don't think my arm is long enough to go in front of the muzzle.

03RN
03-17-2018, 03:18 AM
If the question is hurt your ears, or be mauled, of course I will take ringing in my ears. There is an alternative, and that is an unported barrel. In case anyone is interested, I have three or four surplus ported, Vang’d and NP3’d 14 inch 870 barrels, that I replaced with unported barrels. Porting really takes the fun out of a warning shot!

Thank you for your input. I'll be leaving it unported although I would be interested in shooting a ported one just to compare.

The federal low recoil flight control is pretty manageable. The video I posted is full power buckshot fwiw.

Wondering Beard
03-17-2018, 09:48 AM
I think I need a shockwave with a dot.

Hey 03RN, I'd feel better if you had some sort of positive stop/guard for your support hand on that slide... isn't there supposed to be a strap?


I don't like it. I trust my grip more than some flimsy nylon. My thought was also that if I ever grabbed this gun in the dark, in a rush my hand could be over the strap and it could reduce my grip.
Also, the way I shoot it, I don't think my arm is long enough to go in front of the muzzle.

A Surefire shotgun forend weapon light (https://www.surefire.com/illumination/weaponlights/shotgun-forend.html) might provide a positive stop and still give a solid grip.

03RN
03-17-2018, 12:16 PM
A Surefire shotgun forend weapon light (https://www.surefire.com/illumination/weaponlights/shotgun-forend.html) might provide a positive stop and still give a solid grip.

I'm expecting a 618 this week. It may be to heavy. If it is it'll go on another 590 but I do want to try it

HCM
03-17-2018, 01:08 PM
I'm expecting a 618 this week. It may be to heavy. If it is it'll go on another 590 but I do want to try it

Magpul foreend with an MLOK hand stop is another option.

03RN
03-17-2018, 02:50 PM
30 RDS at 25 yards, that one by the 7 was a was
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Every time I shoot I do much better. I'm definitely looking forward to bear season.

03RN
03-17-2018, 02:53 PM
Magpul foreend with an MLOK hand stop is another option.

Possibly.

hufnagel
03-17-2018, 05:26 PM
I like this thread. :D

(and I keep TELLING everyone, these things are useful! just need a little imagination!)

TAZ
03-17-2018, 06:44 PM
I’ll admit, when I first saw the release, I was like WTF?! But I’m learning that this could be useful.


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willie
03-17-2018, 09:46 PM
A while back I made a wisecrack to one poster when I used the term silly looking in conjunction with a RMR on his Shockwave. I compared it to my S&W Governor. I have been proven wrong. Only my Governor looks silly now.:(

03RN
03-18-2018, 06:11 AM
I just realized that the older surefires were not a universal fit on the action tube. I know the new dsf ones fits both. It will be in tomorrow. I may end up picking up the surefire dsf as well.

03RN
03-18-2018, 06:17 AM
I like this thread. :D

(and I keep TELLING everyone, these things are useful! just need a little imagination!)

If there was ever a weapon that can be useful and effective but really needs the shooter to physically control it. This is it.

It's not something I can hand to my wife and expect good results.

The potential is there.

hufnagel
03-18-2018, 10:25 AM
Try the 20ga. I need to get one as well, and from what I've been told it's WAY more controllable.

willie
03-18-2018, 11:24 AM
I traded my 12 for the 20 ga version. Yes, it's more controllable and much handier due to being lighter. When loaded, the difference between the two is even more pronounced. Some guys above have arms bigger than my legs and may not perceive what I'm saying. But even they will notice the difference once they begin "marching" with the 20.

03RN
03-18-2018, 04:33 PM
I'm not necessarily against 20 gauges. I've spent alot of time hunting small game with one. They just don't have the versatility of a 12 gauge. Good defensive ammo is not common, not that there isn't any, but it's just not as available.

As for hunting large game or for bear defense, I'd prefer the 12. Same with human self defense. I prefer the 12.

BillSWPA
03-18-2018, 07:14 PM
I'm not necessarily against 20 gauges. I've spent alot of time hunting small game with one. They just don't have the versatility of a 12 gauge. Good defensive ammo is not common, not that there isn't any, but it's just not as available.

As for hunting large game or for bear defense, I'd prefer the 12. Same with human self defense. I prefer the 12.

I would not wish to be on the receiving end of #2 or #3 buck out of a 20.



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feudist
03-18-2018, 07:29 PM
What kind of clamp is that on your Mossberg's muzzle?

03RN
03-18-2018, 08:30 PM
I would not wish to be on the receiving end of #2 or #3 buck out of a 20.



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Neither would I. I wouldn't want to get shot with a .380 either. The availability of good 20 gauge defense loads is lacking. If it wasn't for 12 gauge flight control 00 buck I'd keep it loaded with slugs. I'm not a fan of fighting with standard buck. Very large patterns are not ideal in my experience.

I'm sure federal will, or maybe already dose, make a flight control 20 gauge buck loading. Which would be the go to human load. Still wouldn't be my choice for hunting or bear defense.

03RN
03-18-2018, 08:31 PM
What kind of clamp is that on your Mossberg's muzzle?

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03RN
03-18-2018, 09:40 PM
I believe he’s referring to this photo:

Gotcha. That is the Raptor lug. It allows you to cut off the standard Mossberg lug and shorten the barrel. It needs to be used with the raptor grip and a pgo shotgun/other that has never had a buttstock intalled.

GJM
03-18-2018, 10:27 PM
The Brenneke Classic Magnum 20 gauge slug has better sectional density than the same in 12 gauge. My wife’s Benelli M2 with Brenneke slugs feels about like an AR 10 in .308, where my 12 gauge M2 14 inch feels more like a .338 or .375 H&H.

03RN
03-19-2018, 08:37 AM
The Brenneke Classic Magnum 20 gauge slug has better sectional density than the same in 12 gauge. My wife’s Benelli M2 with Brenneke slugs feels about like an AR 10 in .308, where my 12 gauge M2 14 inch feels more like a .338 or .375 H&H.

In the light shockwave I bet those will thump harder than the deep penatrator federal.

feudist
03-19-2018, 10:35 AM
Gotcha. That is the Raptor lug. It allows you to cut off the standard Mossberg lug and shorten the barrel. It needs to be used with the raptor grip and a pgo shotgun/other that has never had a buttstock intalled.

That looks way badasser than the stock Shockwave.

Just sayin'.

hufnagel
03-19-2018, 02:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM_sqSTg2v8

PNWTO
03-20-2018, 08:36 PM
I really want the 20ga Shockwave for my wife... but I have a feeling I would just steal it and go into the woods to terrorize rodents.

03RN
03-21-2018, 08:38 AM
I really want the 20ga Shockwave for my wife... but I have a feeling I would just steal it and go into the woods to terrorize rodents.

Oh, I'll be hunting with this all season. From squirrels to bear.

03RN
03-24-2018, 06:44 PM
50 rounds, 25 yards

I'm getting better but still get a few fliers. 50 rounds is a workout.
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jwperry
03-28-2018, 09:58 AM
That Scalarworks mount makes me want to swap my 1301 for a 930...

03RN
05-11-2018, 09:49 PM
https://youtu.be/hmKKrZohavc
https://youtu.be/UevW_PJ3iHs
https://youtu.be/fVCOz1HhKZw


I got my ass handed to me but I did only have a 5rd mag

Maple Syrup Actual
05-11-2018, 11:05 PM
I kind of understand why a lot of people panned these things when they came out - it's pretty Mossberg chainsaw gun-ish - but my personal reaction was "that looks like an ideal gun to use from inside a vehicle". Part of the value for me, though, is that it would be legal to have in my vehicle without being locked up or anything.

With a reflex sight I think one of these would be all kinds of handy.

03RN
05-15-2018, 06:50 PM
I kind of understand why a lot of people panned these things when they came out - it's pretty Mossberg chainsaw gun-ish - but my personal reaction was "that looks like an ideal gun to use from inside a vehicle". Part of the value for me, though, is that it would be legal to have in my vehicle without being locked up or anything.

With a reflex sight I think one of these would be all kinds of handy.

Nice for woods bumming too
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I might do some training from my car once I finish moving

John Hearne
05-16-2018, 01:08 PM
Nice for woods bumming too
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I might do some training from my car once I finish moving

How I see this working out:
https://youtu.be/WokoWHHAxp4?t=35