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Gio
01-29-2018, 10:39 PM
I was about to finally upgrade to a Dillon 1050, and saw this released at SHOT this year. It seems to be a direct competitor to the 1050 in rate, price, and function. Based on descriptions on videos and initial impressions, it looks like they tried to make a smoother/more reliable 1050. What are your thoughts on it? Worth taking a chance on it or stick to the proven 1050?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVs9Db6uzb4

Clusterfrack
01-29-2018, 11:19 PM
I'm thrilled to see some real competition for the 1050 and 650. I love my 1050, but it has not been trouble free. There are so many design flaws...

I can't say whether the Mark 7 is good to go, but I've heard great things about their products. If I was in the market for a new press, I'd seriously consider it.

Kyle Reese
01-30-2018, 08:47 AM
I'm intrigued. If this turns out to be a viable alternative to the 1050, I'm going to work some OT to pick one up...

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Matt O
01-30-2018, 09:07 AM
Definitely going to keep an eye on this for when I outgrow the 550. As long as the after-purchase service is there, this looks to solve some of the 1050's issues and, most importantly, is designed to integrate with the auto-drive upgrade should someone have the extra green to throw at it.

LittleLebowski
01-30-2018, 09:27 AM
Dibs on Gio 's 1050!

Isn't this still much more expensive than a Mark7'd 1050?

Mike C
01-30-2018, 09:44 AM
The extra stations are sweet! The upgrade options are freaking awesome as well! Primer collator? Awesomeness. It is really cool to see some innovation in this market for sure. It will be interesting to see how these work over the long haul. Maybe the resident loading expert GuanoLoco will get one and let us know how these shake out. They look fantastic, I am really curious about the case feed system using bearings. Price point is also good I think. Only downside I see with this model is it doesn't look like you have the ability to go auto-drive, or at least I didn't see it listed.

Gio
01-30-2018, 11:38 AM
They have the Evolution and the Evolution Pro (same thing but with autodrive), so I think you should be able to upgrade the Evolution to autodrive. I'm definitely intrigued...Dillon certainly has the pedigree and customer service reputation, but their machines are not without some flaws and annoyances (the primer systems being the biggest flaw in my opinion). That's a lot of money to drop on being one of the first buyers though, so I'm still apprehensive.

Hambo
01-30-2018, 11:54 AM
That's a lot of money to drop on being one of the first buyers though, so I'm still apprehensive.

But dude, you'll be the envy of everyone here. You could charge #poorfags (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorfags) a dollar a minute just to watch it run. I've got my $5 ready...

Matt O
01-30-2018, 12:03 PM
Dibs on Gio 's 1050!

Isn't this still much more expensive than a Mark7'd 1050?

The two presses themselves appear to be very close in price. Though it's not clear yet, it appears the autodrive upgrade for the Evolution might be around $2500 as opposed to $1800 for the cheaper 1050 autodrive option, though the latter is appears more limited and tops out at 1800 rounds per hour vs the Evolution's 2500. The mid-level 1050 auto drive option looks to be priced about the same as the Evolution upgrade. All in all it seems quite impressive.

Assuming this met someone's needs from a volume standpoint, I'd be most concerned about service-related issues and being a gen 1 beta tester. That said, it's great to see more options out there. Perhaps when I get above shooting 10k a year (and have a bigger basement) they'll have ironed any bugs out.

GuanoLoco
01-30-2018, 12:56 PM
I’m spending too much time on the job front, but I am watching this unit with interest.

It might be in my future, but not in my immediate future. Agree with not really wanting to be a Gen1 beta tester, especially with limited time.

It would also have to be automated. My 20K/year minimum goal means a manual press eats my elbows up too much.

Convenience and reliability at speed is my #1 concern.

Sal Picante
01-30-2018, 02:10 PM
I have a rotary converted 1050.

I know every part of that machine now... I can assemble and disassemble with my eyes closed.

I love it. It kicks out 1000/hr, steady, and that lets me top things off, sort brass, case gauge.

That said, I would've bought the evolution and Mark 7 over this, hands down.

There is a reason SOOOO many of the people are using Mark7'd 1050's and now really looking at this.

M7's customer service is AS GOOD OR BETTER than Dillon's.

LittleLebowski
01-30-2018, 07:57 PM
I have a rotary converted 1050.

I know every part of that machine now... I can assemble and disassemble with my eyes closed.

I love it. It kicks out 1000/hr, steady, and that lets me top things off, sort brass, case gauge.

That said, I would've bought the evolution and Mark 7 over this, hands down.

There is a reason SOOOO many of the people are using Mark7'd 1050's and now really looking at this.

M7's customer service is AS GOOD OR BETTER than Dillon's.

Rotary?

Sal Picante
01-31-2018, 06:39 AM
Rotary?

Yeah, you read that right:It is like a motorcycle and a 1050 had a love child. LOL.

It is a mechanical system by Forcht that use a chain drive (with a clutch, etc...) to automate the press. There seem to be simpler alternatives nowadays.
I'm somewhat mechanically inclined, so I got it running like a top (Error rate is ~.0002%: 1/5000. Case gauge no-go rate is about .002% 1/500) and won't go back...

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Norm37
09-03-2018, 12:31 PM
The extra stations are sweet!

Yes but I only see 8 stations is calling it a 10 station press just marketing hype?


The upgrade options are freaking awesome as well! Primer collator? Awesomeness.

Yes I am on the notify list for the Evolution and the Primer collator. That's it for upgrades, it will always be my manual press if I get one.

I am looking to upgrade my 5 station Lock n Load to a 7 station Press. Had been thing of the RCBS Pro Chucker 7 and came across the Evolution now it's ???