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Unobtanium
01-27-2018, 09:20 PM
I have noted the spec difference regarding operating temperatures , and submersion capabilities...but what's the reality?

It makes no logistical sense for aimpoint to stock 2 kinds of electronic suites, 2 kinds of 0 rings, 2 kinds of whatever. Absolutely none.

So is the H2 just as capable as the t2, and the cost difference is due to testing? Similar to an HPT bolt costing more than one that isn't, even though they are made on the same line seconds apart of the same material treated the Same? Or is there a true physical difference between the two optics aside from the brightness adjustment and nvd coatings?

Artemas2
01-27-2018, 09:39 PM
https://bigtexoutdoors.com/blogs/news/88201863-differences-between-aimpoint-micro-sights


The H series sights are identical in every way to the T series with the following exceptions: The T Series is night vision compatible & has a higher water depth rating; (25 meters whereas the H has a rating of 5 meters.)

Oddly enough I got a T2 with a mount from Larue last year for less than stores that were selling the H2s at:confused:

Unobtanium
01-27-2018, 09:40 PM
https://bigtexoutdoors.com/blogs/news/88201863-differences-between-aimpoint-micro-sights

biggest difference is the T model has modes for NVGs

I'm trying to understand if the temp and submersion differences are valid.

OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
01-27-2018, 10:01 PM
Well DB or Wayne can surely set ya straight on this, perhaps they’ll stop in @ some point.

HCM
01-28-2018, 12:50 AM
I have noted the spec difference regarding operating temperatures , and submersion capabilities...but what's the reality?

It makes no logistical sense for aimpoint to stock 2 kinds of electronic suites, 2 kinds of 0 rings, 2 kinds of whatever. Absolutely none.

So is the H2 just as capable as the t2, and the cost difference is due to testing? Similar to an HPT bolt costing more than one that isn't, even though they are made on the same line seconds apart of the same material treated the Same? Or is there a true physical difference between the two optics aside from the brightness adjustment and nvd coatings?

Is there a true physical difference ? Yes.

Is the difference significant to most non military users ? No.

ICE issues H-1’s and the FBI issues H2’s on regular Agent carbines. Thousands in the field with no major issues.

blues
01-28-2018, 09:06 AM
Is there a true physical difference ? Yes.

Is the difference significant to most non military users ? No.

ICE issues H-1’s and the FBI issues H2’s on regular Agent carbines. Thousands in the field with no major issues.

I purchased an H2 for my rifle a couple years back as I figured I wasn't going to be swimming my rifle or engaging in underwater ops. So far my decision has been prudent. I guess if that changes, my next to last thought might be, "damn, I shoulda got that T2!"

LittleLebowski
01-28-2018, 09:29 AM
I only buy the H series, or at least I did until I found the Primary Arms micros.

M2CattleCo
02-03-2018, 11:59 PM
I've always used the Ts because I go overboard on everything. Haven't had one fail me yet!

Erick Gelhaus
02-05-2018, 12:11 AM
I only buy the H series, or at least I did until I found the Primary Arms micros.

Would you put a Primary Arms micro on a semi auto shotgun?

orionz06
02-05-2018, 12:36 AM
I would question if it were a "tested to" kinda thing. T's and H's tested to different depths and come off of different lines? I agree that the differing sku's with similar products could be a mess.

LittleLebowski
02-05-2018, 06:28 AM
Would you put a Primary Arms micro on a semi auto shotgun?

Already have :cool:

Wayne Dobbs
02-05-2018, 05:53 PM
The difference between the T-2 and H-2 is night vision compatibility. The T is and the H isn't. It's my understanding that the submersibility rating is different because the T-2 (being an NSN item) has been formally tested for that and the H-2 hasn't (at least formally in the mil-spec style protocol). Buy either one and be happy. They're excellent sights.

OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
02-05-2018, 06:03 PM
The difference between the T-2 and H-2 is night vision compatibility. The T is and the H isn't. It's my understanding that the submersibility rating is different because the T-2 (being an NSN item) has been formally tested for that and the H-2 hasn't (at least formally in the mil-spec style protocol). Buy either one and be happy. They're excellent sights.

w/ The Wayne Dobbs (title given by our friend Pat) having weighed in here, might as well close the thread now IMO.

Unobtanium
02-06-2018, 05:26 AM
The difference between the T-2 and H-2 is night vision compatibility. The T is and the H isn't. It's my understanding that the submersibility rating is different because the T-2 (being an NSN item) has been formally tested for that and the H-2 hasn't (at least formally in the mil-spec style protocol). Buy either one and be happy. They're excellent sights.

Excellent, and thank-you so much!

Unobtanium
02-06-2018, 07:57 AM
Has aimpoint ceased producing 4moa H2 optics? Multiple sites say they have...?

Wayne Dobbs
02-06-2018, 08:27 AM
Has aimpoint ceased producing 4moa H2 optics? Multiple sites say they have...?

All of the Micros (except the shotgun dedicated S-1) are now available in 2 MOA only. The S-1 is a 6 MOA. And I don't recall any of the -2 Micros being made in anything but 2 MOA. The -1 sights had that option for a long time though.

Unobtanium
02-06-2018, 09:31 AM
All of the Micros (except the shotgun dedicated S-1) are now available in 2 MOA only. The S-1 is a 6 MOA. And I don't recall any of the -2 Micros being made in anything but 2 MOA. The -1 sights had that option for a long time though.

Sales reasons, or product issues of any sort?

Wayne Dobbs
02-06-2018, 10:13 AM
Sales reasons, or product issues of any sort?

When the T-1 popped for the public (10 years ago?) it was only available in 4 MOA, with the 2 MOA being a SOCOM product. Folks started thinking the 4 MOA wasn't as desirable and wanted the 2 MOA sights, so the company made the 2 MOA available and kept the 4 MOA SKU in play. As time went on, the 4 MOA sort of selected itself out and the -2s were 2 MOA in total. I can't tell the difference between 2 and 4 MOA in actual use and doubt anybody else can do so either. You CAN tell when you magnify the sights. The -2 Micros have a new optics package and have shown to be much better with a magnifier in play and are my preferred Aimpoint product, magnifier or not.

There were no performance issues on any of the sights so far as I know.