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dolphin62
01-24-2018, 05:42 AM
I messed up. I loaded some .38sp shells with round nose flat tip bullets and put to much crimp on the case. Now they wont fit into the chamber. I am going to get a bullet puller the kind that looks like a hammer and remove the bullets , and powder. the question I have is this. Will I have to resize the cases? If not can I just flare the case mouth and load with powder and a bullet seat and crimp and be on my way. Or is this a scrap job? Any help would be great.

LittleLebowski
01-24-2018, 06:03 AM
I think you will have to flare the mouths again since you overcrimped. Grab yourself one of these (https://www.amazon.com/Frankford-Arsenal-Quick-n-EZ-Impact-Bullet/dp/B001B7ZB4Q/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1516791722&sr=8-3&keywords=bullet+puller) (it's what I use) and measure the case mouth afterwards, plus check the case mouth visually with a fresh bullet. Good luck and have fun cleaning up the mess :D

dolphin62
01-24-2018, 06:16 AM
I know I can hardly waite

mtnbkr
01-24-2018, 06:40 AM
It's odd that the crimp is preventing the cartridge from chambering in a 38special. Are you sure you didn't use 357mag brass or seat the bullet too long. Can you take a picture of the loaded cartridge?

Are you seating and crimping in the same stage or two separate stages? The only way I can see too much crimp causing chambering issues in a revolver is if you're doing the combined step and you're getting a bulge in the case. With the two steps on separate stages, I can't see this symptom occurring.

ETA: When I have to pull a bullet and reload the cartridge, I resize the case, but don't push the ram all the way as that would remove the primer as well. I just resize the affected portion (where the bullet contacted the case). It requires a bit more attention, but saves the primer (if that's a concern).

Chris

olstyn
01-24-2018, 06:52 AM
ETA: When I have to pull a bullet and reload the cartridge, I resize the case, but don't push the ram all the way as that would remove the primer as well. I just resize the affected portion (where the bullet contacted the case). It requires a bit more attention, but saves the primer (if that's a concern).

I just set the cases aside until I have a vaguely worthwhile number (YMMV on how many that is - I like for it to be at least 25) and then pull the decapping pin out of my resizing die. Then you can just run them through the process as normal, minus seating a new primer, of course.

mtnbkr
01-24-2018, 06:58 AM
I just set the cases aside until I have a vaguely worthwhile number (YMMV on how many that is - I like for it to be at least 25) and then pull the decapping pin out of my resizing die. Then you can just run them through the process as normal, minus seating a new primer, of course.

Yup, that works too. I normally only need to do something like this when I'm setting up dies for a new load, so it's not worth setting aside. I just pull the bullet, run the case through the sizer side with a quarter-to-half stroke, then continue on.

Though, if you're using a progressive, I can see where your method makes more sense. I'm using a turret press, so the workflow is a bit different.

Chris

BN
01-24-2018, 07:19 AM
How many do you have? Might be easier to just scrap the cases.

Yes, you should probably resize the cases.

olstyn
01-24-2018, 07:21 AM
Though, if you're using a progressive, I can see where your method makes more sense. I'm using a turret press, so the workflow is a bit different.

Yup, Hornady LNL. I think I'd do it the pull the decapping pin way even with a turret, though, simply because I'd rather not worry about only pulling the handle a certain distance. Obviously your method works for you, though, so rock on. :)

Peally
01-24-2018, 09:20 AM
I just toss them and start again. I know we reload to save money but fucking up a few cases really isn't a financial loss.

willie
01-24-2018, 11:47 AM
I'd set them aside and start over. I'm not certain that crimping is the issue. If you crimped into the crimp groove going around the bullet's circumference, then another variable is contributing. I think that you may not be using the crimp groove, or you are using a jacketed bullet without this groove and have crimped into the bearing surface itself with the result that the case has deformed at the mouth. Telling us the brand and specific bullet used would clarify the issue. A picture of this projectile would be great.

dolphin62
01-25-2018, 05:43 AM
Thanks for the replys. I was loading lead bullets. I think I may have set some up wrong on the seating part of the die or flared it out to much. I have loaded many hundreds of shells with no problems, I also followed the instrutions that came with the reloading dies. I guess I thought I had it all memory. Anyhow to make a long story short. I reloaded a few last night and followed everything to a T. They worked out beautiful. My professor in bacteriology when I was a very young intern use to always tell me.
"When all fails go back and follow the directions" God I hate to say he was right.

358156hp
01-27-2018, 08:48 PM
It does sound like you flared the case too much, which can cause a bulge in the case below the crimp. You may be able to remove that bulge with a taper crimp die, like the ones used for 45 ACP, but that approach can be hit or miss.