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navyman8903
01-24-2018, 01:45 AM
The Glock 34 is my favorite Glock. I like the 19 and 17, and plan to pick some up in the future to replace the ones I've sold. I'm really liking my Gen 4 G34. It extracts and ejects properly, which makes me so happy. It also is a tac driver.

That said, of all the new announcements so far, I have to admit..... I'm semi exited for a Gen 5 G34. Plus the new finish will look awesome I think. Until the barrel looks like my MARK23 after a few hundred rounds.


Anyone else excited?

secondstoryguy
01-24-2018, 05:46 AM
I too love the 34 and plan to own one as soon as Glock gets its head out of their ass and makes one sans MOS. My Gen 3 34 is long in tooth and I have a G4 in the safe with plans to replace it when I get off light duty here in a few months. Once this happens GTs is gonna get a visit.

navyman8903
01-24-2018, 06:53 AM
I too love the 34 and plan to own one as soon as Glock gets its head out of their ass and makes one sans MOS. My Gen 3 34 is long in tooth and I have a G4 in the safe with plans to replace it when I get off light duty here in a few months. Once this happens GTs is gonna get a visit.

I agree on the non-MOS. I thought the one I saw was non-MOS, but if they're all MOS I'm not interested.

DallasBronco
01-24-2018, 10:55 AM
What issues are y'all seeing with MOS? I have a Gen4 G34 MOS and haven't had any problems with it, but it doesn't have that many rounds through it either.

secondstoryguy
01-24-2018, 11:04 AM
If I’m gonna mount an RMR for duty use it will be machined in so the MOS is useless for me. Furthermore it moves the rear sight back to the back edge of the slide. I run Ameriglos so it’s not that big of a deal but the further the sight is back the more it damages my cover garments and generally just becomes a nusance.

DallasBronco
01-24-2018, 11:21 AM
If I’m gonna mount an RMR for duty use it will be machined in so the MOS is useless for me. Furthermore it moves the rear sight back to the back edge of the slide. I run Ameriglos so it’s not that big of a deal but the further the sight is back the more it damages my cover garments and generally just becomes a nusance.
Gotcha. Thanks for sharing that as I previously hadn't heard about anyone disliking the MOS guns.

bravo7
01-24-2018, 11:56 AM
What issues are y'all seeing with MOS? I have a Gen4 G34 MOS and haven't had any problems with it, but it doesn't have that many rounds through it either.

The MOS part is the weak link.

DallasBronco
01-24-2018, 12:09 PM
The MOS part is the weak link.
I don't know what you mean by that.

45dotACP
01-24-2018, 12:22 PM
I don't know what you mean by that.Basically the plate system allows for one more joined part that can fail and is weaker(and taller) than a direct milled option. Instead of using ameriglo suppressor sights, you have to use a much taller Dawson set. I've put a few thousand rounds down my MOS 17 without too much drama, but I used a lot of blue threadlocker.

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GJM
01-24-2018, 01:33 PM
Of course, since all available dots are compromises, MOS allows you to change as the technology does. With ample blue loctite, it is just fine for security.

navyman8903
01-24-2018, 02:33 PM
I don't run dots on my guns as they're a failure point where there doesn't need to be one. Fog, battery, damage, remedial action, and in increases the possibilities for stoppages. They also take longer for me to acquire to the point it doesn't make any sense for me to run one. I'm much faster and more comfortable with irons. I also don't want a cutout for something I'll never use, and it's just the possibility of losing that plate or something dumb happening.

navyman8903
01-25-2018, 02:43 PM
I guess they ditched the slide cut out also......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DPqltIBebM

Gio
01-25-2018, 02:49 PM
I don't run dots on my guns as they're a failure point where there doesn't need to be one. Fog, battery, damage, remedial action, and in increases the possibilities for stoppages. They also take longer for me to acquire to the point it doesn't make any sense for me to run one. I'm much faster and more comfortable with irons. I also don't want a cutout for something I'll never use, and it's just the possibility of losing that plate or something dumb happening.

I'm with you on that. Would prefer to have a non-MOS version.

rob_s
01-26-2018, 08:29 AM
I was planning on getting the MOS in the hopes of somewhat future-proofing the purchase (shoot it now with irons but as my eyes continue to deteriorate and the tech continues to improve there will be a nexus for me), but the rear sight overhang has given me pause.

I'll probably still buy one anyway.

Gio
01-26-2018, 09:00 AM
I was planning on getting the MOS in the hopes of somewhat future-proofing the purchase (shoot it now with irons but as my eyes continue to deteriorate and the tech continues to improve there will be a nexus for me), but the rear sight overhang has given me pause.

I'll probably still buy one anyway.

Dawson sells a "non-cowitness" rear sight for the MOS that is the standard height of their typical competition sights and doesn't overhang: https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-glock-mos-fixed-non-co-witness-black-rear-sights/

GJM
01-26-2018, 09:08 AM
I plan to pick up my G5/34 in a few hours.

Craw
01-26-2018, 09:13 AM
I plan to pick up my G5/34 in a few hours.

Will you please let us know if the provided screws will work with RMRs?

GJM
01-26-2018, 09:15 AM
Will you please let us know if the provided screws will work with RMRs?

DP Pro is first thing I do after taking it out of the box.

rob_s
01-26-2018, 09:23 AM
Dawson sells a "non-cowitness" rear sight for the MOS that is the standard height of their typical competition sights and doesn't overhang: https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-glock-mos-fixed-non-co-witness-black-rear-sights/

I was really hoping for adjustable, but that will probably do. thanks!

Will probably just pick up the set if I bite.
https://dawsonprecision.com/copy-of-dawson-precision-glock-42-fixed-carry-sight-set-black-rear-fiber-optic-front-2/

ranger
01-26-2018, 09:51 AM
I was going to buy a G17.5 but I decided to wait on feedback on the G34.5. I still have my G34.3 that was my competition pistol for years - interested in comparing. Wondering of G26.5 for CCW and G34.5 for range is "the" combo versus the G19.5 and G17.5.

LSP552
01-26-2018, 08:36 PM
I was going to buy a G17.5 but I decided to wait on feedback on the G34.5. I still have my G34.3 that was my competition pistol for years - interested in comparing. Wondering of G26.5 for CCW and G34.5 for range is "the" combo versus the G19.5 and G17.5.


IMO, the perfect 2 Glock battery would be 17 and 26. You can do everything with those two. Don’t get me wrong, I love the 34. No experience with any of the gen 5s, only 2,3 &4.

One of the major benefits of the Glock is their various sizes that all work the same. No other pistol platform has that much range in size.

JHC
01-26-2018, 09:33 PM
IMO, the perfect 2 Glock battery would be 17 and 26. You can do everything with those two. Don’t get me wrong, I love the 34. No experience with any of the gen 5s, only 2,3 &4.

One of the major benefits of the Glock is their various sizes that all work the same. No other pistol platform has that much range in size.

TLG felt the same

Mr. Goodtimes
01-27-2018, 08:21 AM
I always felt like the 19 and 34 were ideal but, I’m also built where I can hide a 19 like most hide a 26. With my frame, I haven’t found a 26 can do anything for me a 19 can’t. I’m currently about to give the 34 a try as the longer sight radius is appealing to me.


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BWT
01-27-2018, 09:21 AM
I just can’t get comfortable with the rear sight off the slide.

I really wanted to love this gun. I may change my mind at some point.

God Bless,

Brandon

HopetonBrown
01-27-2018, 12:08 PM
I just can’t get comfortable with the rear sight off the slide.


What sight were you going to use?

M2CattleCo
01-27-2018, 03:08 PM
10-8 and Dawson both make standard height sights specifically for MOS slide.

peterb
01-27-2018, 05:20 PM
10-8 and Dawson both make standard height sights specifically for MOS slide.

https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-glock-mos-fixed-non-co-witness-black-rear-sights/

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Photo from Dawson website

QuickStrike
01-28-2018, 11:24 AM
I guess they ditched the slide cut out also......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DPqltIBebM

Wow, that actually made the gun a possible buy for me.

Will have to rent a G34 and shoot it back to back with my G19 first.

BWT
01-28-2018, 12:09 PM
What sight were you going to use?

Usually Warren’s or Ameriglo’s of some kind.

God Bless,

Brandon

45dotACP
01-28-2018, 12:33 PM
Usually Warren’s or Ameriglo’s of some kind.

God Bless,

BrandonI'm a pretty huge fan of the Sevigny sights from Warren, but I tried a set of Dawson's on my G19 and they are about the same in my estimation.

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BWT
01-28-2018, 01:29 PM
I'm a pretty huge fan of the Sevigny sights from Warren, but I tried a set of Dawson's on my G19 and they are about the same in my estimation.

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I have Warren’s on my 19 and 17. Ameriglo’s on my 26. It appears the same design on the gen 5 34 extends beyond the rear of the slide. Am I making sense?

God Bless,

Brandon

MGW
01-30-2018, 07:21 AM
Why didn’t I know that Glock got rid of the slide cut out in the Gen 5 34? That is interesting.

MSparks909
01-30-2018, 01:38 PM
I think what’s most surprising (at least to me) in this thread is that GJM is still using the DPP as a CO sight. I figured you would have moved on to greener pastures by now. Your failure rate with those optics is quite frankly, astounding.

GJM
01-30-2018, 03:08 PM
I think what’s most surprising (at least to me) in this thread is that GJM is still using the DPP as a CO sight. I figured you would have moved on to greener pastures by now. Your failure rate with those optics is quite frankly, astounding.

Unfortunately there is no greener pasture.

navyman8903
01-31-2018, 11:33 PM
Why didn’t I know that Glock got rid of the slide cut out in the Gen 5 34? That is interesting.

I was in the same boat till LV did his video.

navyman8903
02-03-2018, 04:56 AM
So I got to play with the G5 G34 and I am impressed, the only thing keeping me from ever getting one is the MOS. IT pushes the rear sight all the way to the rear and there's actually an overhang with the rear sight now. I WILL get one if they make a non-MOS model. My Gen4 G34 has trijicon HD's on it, and that's a must for me on a Gen5. But I like the changes. They did get rid of the cut out, but removed material internally to keep the mass the same.

GJM
02-12-2018, 08:21 PM
I have shot a pair of Gen 5 34 MOS pistols enough to form an impression —I love them!

Running both with DP Pro Optics and stock trigger parts, excepting a 5.0 striker spring. Have a third G5/34 inbound, that I plan to try an RMS Shield optic on it. Really, really enjoying how they recoil and, of course, their big mag well. Repeatedly getting sub two inch five shot groups at 25 yards with American Eagle 115 ball. Yet to experience a stoppage with any ammo I have tried. PMC 115 shoots 1-2 inches right of the AE 115 at 25 yards.

Nobody tell Gabe about this post.

HeavyDuty
02-12-2018, 08:26 PM
Another voice in the wilderness - do a non-MOS version and I’m there.

SeriousStudent
02-12-2018, 09:48 PM
George, if you do not mind me asking, what size dot are you running on your DP Pro?

Thanks very much.

GJM
02-12-2018, 10:27 PM
George, if you do not mind me asking, what size dot are you running on your DP Pro?

Thanks very much.

There are two choices — the triangle and the dot (which is 2.5 or 3 as I recall). I run the dot, and it can be made larger by increasing the brightness. Good gaming optic not suitable for EDC.

Gio
02-12-2018, 10:39 PM
I picked up a gen5 34 today. Will shoot it later this week and get it zero'd in (with irons from Dawson). Really liking it so far though. It's not officially on the production list yet, but I will be shooting it at majors and nationals this season.

Super77
02-13-2018, 08:27 PM
I picked up a gen5 34 today. Will shoot it later this week and get it zero'd in (with irons from Dawson). Really liking it so far though. It's not officially on the production list yet, but I will be shooting it at majors and nationals this season.

Gio what connector came in yours? Same as 19/17 or do they have a factory - for the Gen 5s?

Gio
02-13-2018, 08:58 PM
Gio what connector came in yours? Same as 19/17 or do they have a factory - for the Gen 5s?

Dot connector, but it is a blue label gun which generally didn’t come with minus connectors.

Matt O
02-14-2018, 05:36 PM
I picked up a gen5 34 today. Will shoot it later this week and get it zero'd in (with irons from Dawson). Really liking it so far though. It's not officially on the production list yet, but I will be shooting it at majors and nationals this season.

Definitely looking forward to hearing what sight heights you end up going with and what distance/ammo used.

Gio
02-15-2018, 08:58 AM
I took the G34 out to the range yesterday to start getting it zero’d in. I was pretty happy with the elevation poi with the Glock factory night sight setup, although the front sight was of course twisted in the slide and causing left impact. I forgot my rest, so I was using a makeshift rest off the top of an empty barrel. The factory sights are .160” height rear and .163” height front, so I will likely go with a Dawson .225” rear and .230” front. My reloads are 145gr at 915 fps. Target was at 25 yds. EDIT: Not sure why the picture rotated sideways, but the hits are to the left of where I was holding POA.

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I felt like the recoil was noticeably softer than my gen4 34. One major difference is the gen4 has a 13# spring and the gen5 was using the stock spring, but if anything, that should have made the gen4 feel softer.

I shot a couple el pres drills in the 3.8X-4.2X range. The magwell makes it feel like reloading a limited gun to me bc I’m so used to a stock gen4.

I replaced the trigger spring with a 5# spring and the connector with a TTI connector. The break is right around 4# but still feels too long/rolling for me. I may go back to the dot connector that came with the gun.

I had no issues with the flat slide release (taken off one of my other gen5’s) with my reloads or factory Speer G2 ammo, but with +p+ 115gr practice ammo from work I was prematurely locking the slide open because of how high and forward on the gun my support hand sits combined with the sharper recoil. This problem is always exacerbated by the extended slide release for me, but worse on gen5’s because even the flat slide release is a little thicker than the earlier gens.

GJM
02-15-2018, 10:29 AM
Edit your photo in some way and orientation will be fine. Good 34 report — agree on recoil impulse.

Blackbag
02-16-2018, 08:05 AM
I have shot a pair of Gen 5 34 MOS pistols enough to form an impression —I love them!

Running both with DP Pro Optics and stock trigger parts, excepting a 5.0 striker spring. Have a third G5/34 inbound, that I plan to try an RMS Shield optic on it. Really, really enjoying how they recoil and, of course, their big mag well. Repeatedly getting sub two inch five shot groups at 25 yards with American Eagle 115 ball. Yet to experience a stoppage with any ammo I have tried. PMC 115 shoots 1-2 inches right of the AE 115 at 25 yards.

Nobody tell Gabe about this post.

I think I am going to break down and purchase a Gen 5. Probably going to do the same mods as you, GJM. Is the 5lb striker spring the same spring that the Gen 1-4 use? Or is the spring unique to the Gen 5's? Thanks

GJM
02-16-2018, 08:09 AM
I think I am going to break down and purchase a Gen 5. Probably going to do the same mods as you, GJM. Is the 5lb striker spring the same spring that the Gen 1-4 use? Or is the spring unique to the Gen 5's? Thanks

Yes, the same.

Blackbag
02-16-2018, 08:14 AM
Thank you, sir!

JBP55
02-16-2018, 04:53 PM
I think I am going to break down and purchase a Gen 5. Probably going to do the same mods as you, GJM. Is the 5lb striker spring the same spring that the Gen 1-4 use? Or is the spring unique to the Gen 5's? Thanks

The Glock OEM firing pin springs are 5.5#

Norville
02-16-2018, 07:22 PM
So the Gen 5 34 s not on the uspsa Production list yet? The 17 is, but I prefer the 34 since I am thinking of going back to Production this year and the larger mag opening is appealing.

GJM
02-16-2018, 09:32 PM
The Glock OEM firing pin springs are 5.5#

Yes, this is correct, but I think he was asking whether the same striker spring, regardless of weight, works in G1-4 and G5 pistols.

Blackbag
02-16-2018, 11:19 PM
Yes, this is correct, but I think he was asking whether the same striker spring, regardless of weight, works in G1-4 and G5 pistols.

You are correct, making sure it was the same type of spring even with different weights. Thanks.

JBP55
02-17-2018, 07:42 AM
Yes, this is correct, but I think he was asking whether the same striker spring, regardless of weight, works in G1-4 and G5 pistols.

10-4.

Bryan W
02-19-2018, 12:38 AM
So the Gen 5 34 s not on the uspsa Production list yet? The 17 is, but I prefer the 34 since I am thinking of going back to Production this year and the larger mag opening is appealing.

Give it a little time... the 34.5 hasn't been out terribly long. It will absolutely be on the list at some point.
BW

Bryan W
02-19-2018, 12:42 AM
https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-glock-mos-fixed-non-co-witness-black-rear-sights/

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Photo from Dawson website

I have these installed on my 34.5. Pretty much the same sight picture you get from the Chargers. Standard height for this rear sight is .225 tall. It's good to go.
BW

HopetonBrown
02-19-2018, 11:27 AM
Frank Proctor has redesigned his sight to be MOS compatible. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180219/90d3df79927657d76025fc6bda15d9cd.jpg

Rex G
02-21-2018, 03:01 PM
I guess they ditched the slide cut out also......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DPqltIBebM

OK, the Gen5 G34 is now on my long-term wish list! I would rather not have the hole in the top of the slide, as there is/are no corresponding holes to spit-out whatever falls into the upper holes in earlier-model slides.

HopetonBrown
02-24-2018, 03:51 PM
Henning Group has a new sight set that appears MOS compatible. Same height as stock sights, with a 115 fiber front and 125 rear notch (same dimensions as TTI). Black nitride finish, $60.

https://www.henningshop.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=1373249&CAT=9248

GJM
02-24-2018, 06:14 PM
Here is my G5 34 with Dawson sights.

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secondstoryguy
02-24-2018, 10:59 PM
I just picked up a Gen 5 34 today. Seems to have good fit/finish and a great trigger. I’m excited to see how it shoots.

Bryan W
02-25-2018, 05:37 PM
Here is my G5 34 with Dawson sights.

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Same set up on mine. Running a .235 tall front and it's a tack driver.

Sootnsmoke
02-25-2018, 10:30 PM
What kind of groups are you getting? At 15 yards with 124 gr hand loads and production ammo I am getting 2.5 inch to 3 inch groups off hand. Expected a bit better. Putting Dawson MOS sights soon as well

Bryan W
02-26-2018, 11:55 PM
What kind of groups are you getting? At 15 yards with 124 gr hand loads and production ammo I am getting 2.5 inch to 3 inch groups off hand. Expected a bit better. Putting Dawson MOS sights soon as well

Under 2" at 15 with federal 124 and some Freedom Ammunition loads that I had on hand. All of my Gen 5 guns (17.5, 19.5, 19X and 34.5) are solid. The Dawson MOS sights work well on the 34 so i dont have any complaints there and since I run Dawson Charger rears the sight picture is the same.

Sootnsmoke
02-27-2018, 06:42 AM
Under 2" at 15 with federal 124 and some Freedom Ammunition loads that I had on hand. All of my Gen 5 guns (17.5, 19.5, 19X and 34.5) are solid. The Dawson MOS sights work well on the 34 so i dont have any complaints there and since I run Dawson Charger rears the sight picture is the same.Did the Dawson's on the G34 hit POI/POA or did you have to exchange for another front site to get it right?

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GJM
02-27-2018, 09:32 AM
My G5/34 regulates with the Dawson MOS rear and .225 FO front.

Sootnsmoke
02-27-2018, 05:46 PM
My G5/34 regulates with the Dawson MOS rear and .225 FO front.Since the .205 front is the initial height sight Dawson ships, I take it your G34 shot high with factory Glock sights as well? Did you get the taller sight when you first ordered or did they ship you a free 2nd taller sight?

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GJM
02-27-2018, 07:04 PM
Since the .205 front is the initial height sight Dawson ships, I take it your G34 shot high with factory Glock sights as well? Did you get the taller sight when you first ordered or did they ship you a free 2nd taller sight?

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Neither. I bought just the MOS rear, and based on a combination of G5 threads, and my 34 experience, went with a .225 front, which I already had new in the package.

secondstoryguy
02-27-2018, 07:05 PM
Has anyone measured the factory installed magazine release on the Gen 5 34 against the standard length? Does the gen 5 34 have an extended mag release?

GJM
02-27-2018, 07:22 PM
Has anyone measured the factory installed magazine release on the Gen 5 34 against the standard length? Does the gen 5 34 have an extended mag release?

Negative, use the OEM extended one from the G4. The 19X does.

Sootnsmoke
02-27-2018, 09:21 PM
Neither. I bought just the MOS rear, and based on a combination of G5 threads, and my 34 experience, went with a .225 front, which I already had new in the package.I find that with the factory Glock adjustable rears bottomed out for elevation, my G34.5 still shoots 1.5 inches high at 15 yards with my 124 and 147 grain 130 PF loads. I am surprised they shipped them like that. I sure hope this gun will work for me with Dawson sights and a lightened trigger. I put some time behind a G34 4th gen with Dawson sights and a 4 lb Vanek Custom trigger and it grouped noticeably better for me. I will shoot a steel match or 2 with the Gen5 in stock form before upgrading trigger and sights. Not entirely certain the gen 5 was a good choice over the gen 4 for me. Especially, since I had no issue with the finger grooves.

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Bryan W
02-27-2018, 10:48 PM
Did the Dawson's on the G34 hit POI/POA or did you have to exchange for another front site to get it right?

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The MOS rear is .225 tall, so I set my 34.5 up with a .235 front and it seems right. Stay away from the .205 tall front it will be too short. I think i read another reply where a .225 tall front was used also with this set up as well. Good luck! BW

Bryan W
02-27-2018, 10:51 PM
Neither. I bought just the MOS rear, and based on a combination of G5 threads, and my 34 experience, went with a .225 front, which I already had new in the package.

Exactly this... It took some trial and error for me to nail down the Gen 5 sight combos.

Bryan W
02-27-2018, 11:05 PM
I find that with the factory Glock adjustable rears bottomed out for elevation, my G34.5 still shoots 1.5 inches high at 15 yards with my 124 and 147 grain 130 PF loads. I am surprised they shipped them like that. I sure hope this gun will work for me with Dawson sights and a lightened trigger. I put some time behind a G34 4th gen with Dawson sights and a 4 lb Vanek Custom trigger and it grouped noticeably better for me. I will shoot a steel match or 2 with the Gen5 in stock form before upgrading trigger and sights. Not entirely certain the gen 5 was a good choice over the gen 4 for me. Especially, since I had no issue with the finger grooves.

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Give it some time to get in the groove with it, like any new gun. The Dawson MOS rear / Fiber front combo will make a big different over the factory junk sights. My Gen 4 guns shoot great too, but I'm not a finger groove fan. Looks like USPSA production is about to allow removal of those with a new rule change though. I've been shooting Glocks since the late 80s when they hit and the Gen 5's are the best of the breed, IMO. The 19X is maybe my favorite model of these. Mixed reviews on that one I know, but I love it. Good luck getting your 34.5 set up. I predict it will work out well for you. BW

GJM
02-28-2018, 12:41 AM
I find that with the factory Glock adjustable rears bottomed out for elevation, my G34.5 still shoots 1.5 inches high at 15 yards with my 124 and 147 grain 130 PF loads. I am surprised they shipped them like that. I sure hope this gun will work for me with Dawson sights and a lightened trigger. I put some time behind a G34 4th gen with Dawson sights and a 4 lb Vanek Custom trigger and it grouped noticeably better for me. I will shoot a steel match or 2 with the Gen5 in stock form before upgrading trigger and sights. Not entirely certain the gen 5 was a good choice over the gen 4 for me. Especially, since I had no issue with the finger grooves.

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I find the G5/34 more accurate, better magwell, better recoil impulse, and the trigger is growing on me. My G4/34 MOS pistols are now spares.

Sootnsmoke
02-28-2018, 07:25 AM
Give it some time to get in the groove with it, like any new gun. The Dawson MOS rear / Fiber front combo will make a big different over the factory junk sights. My Gen 4 guns shoot great too, but I'm not a finger groove fan. Looks like USPSA production is about to allow removal of those with a new rule change though. I've been shooting Glocks since the late 80s when they hit and the Gen 5's are the best of the breed, IMO. The 19X is maybe my favorite model of these. Mixed reviews on that one I know, but I love it. Good luck getting your 34.5 set up. I predict it will work out well for you. BWThanks for the feedback. It is much appreciated. I will spend some more time with it. With the .235 front sight, did that get your POI at or about the top of the front sight, assuming that is your POA/sight picture? If so, at what distance? Are you running the stock trigger? Am I correct that the gen 5 G34 runs a dot connector and a minus is not an option due to the redesign?

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LSP552
02-28-2018, 07:32 AM
Neither. I bought just the MOS rear, and based on a combination of G5 threads, and my 34 experience, went with a .225 front, which I already had new in the package.

Every 34 and 35 I’ve owned or seen shot high with standard height sights, including 60+ LSP guns.

Sootnsmoke
02-28-2018, 08:50 PM
Neither. I bought just the MOS rear, and based on a combination of G5 threads, and my 34 experience, went with a .225 front, which I already had new in the package.I need to decide to order either a .225 or a 235 as is run by Bryan. Can you tell me where your .225 puts your POI/POA and at what yard distance?

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GJM
02-28-2018, 08:54 PM
.225 is tip of front sight for me at 25 with 115 grain AE, and I would bet .235 might be better with 147 grain.

Sootnsmoke
02-28-2018, 09:15 PM
.225 is tip of front sight for me at 25 with 115 grain AE, and I would bet .235 might be better with 147 grain.Thank you. Probably will standardize on 124 plated round nose, 130 PF loads. Sounds like the .235 might give me front site tip at 20 yards possibly

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Bryan W
02-28-2018, 09:29 PM
.225 is tip of front sight for me at 25 with 115 grain AE, and I would bet .235 might be better with 147 grain.

This is it.... I normally shoot 147 so ordered a .235. Mine is shooting POA/POI at 25. I could run a .225 just as easy without problems probably. I'd always rather have the gun print a little high than low.

Sootnsmoke
02-28-2018, 11:01 PM
This is it.... I normally shoot 147 so ordered a .235. Mine is shooting POA/POI at 25. I could run a .225 just as easy without problems probably. I'd always rather have the gun print a little high than low.Thanks guys. Sounds like either height would likely be close enough, especially with 124s. Just need to decide between the two. I am going to run the stock trigger in a couple matches to see how I do with it. What are your thoughts on running the stock Gen5 trigger in USPSA production? I do have Ghost trigger parts in my G23 and like their stuff. I am considering the Ghost Evo 3.3 trigger possibly for the 34. Thoughts? The stock Gen5 34 trigger is the best factory trigger to date I believe

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Bryan W
02-28-2018, 11:09 PM
Thanks guys. Sounds like either height would likely be close enough, especially with 124s. Just need to decide between the two. I am going to run the stock trigger in a couple matches to see how I do with it. What are your thoughts on running the stock Gen5 trigger in USPSA production? I do have Ghost trigger parts in my G23 and like their stuff. I am considering the Ghost Evo 3.3 trigger possibly for the 34. Thoughts? The stock Gen5 34 trigger is the best factory trigger to date I believe

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You can always split the difference and order a .230 front too. But in all honesty, for anything USPSA related you wont miss a beat with either one of those fronts. You wont see more than about 1.5" difference in POI worse case, IMO. Both will work just fine.

Triggers - I haven't done anything to mine yet, but when I do it will probably the Taran Tactical spring/connector kit, plus a new guiderod to run a lighter recoil spring. That's it pretty much.

Sootnsmoke
02-28-2018, 11:15 PM
You can always split the difference and order a .230 front too. But in all honesty, for anything USPSA related you wont miss a beat with either one of those fronts. You wont see more than about 1.5" difference in POI worse case, IMO. Both will work just fine.

Triggers - I haven't done anything to mine yet, but when I do it will probably the Taran Tactical spring/connector kit, plus a new guiderod to run a lighter recoil spring. That's it pretty much.I may call Dawson and do just that, order a .230. Thanks for the reminder on TT. I will check out that trigger kit

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Bryan W
02-28-2018, 11:19 PM
I may call Dawson and do just that, order a .230. Thanks for the reminder on TT. I will check out that trigger kit

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TTI Glock items also here and Tim ships fast.

http://benstoegerproshop.com/gun-parts/glock/springs/

GJM
02-28-2018, 11:52 PM
I put a Vanek Gen 5 trigger in the first G5/34 I got, and then took it out. I am running everything stock, except for a 5.0 Wolf striker spring. The trigger has grown on me.

I had a lighter recoil spring in my Gen 4/34, and ended up with light strikes when the combination of the lighter spring, 140mm mags and some thumb pressure on the slide, kept the slide slightly out of battery. I actually dig the recoil impulse of the G5/34 and plan to leave the stock RSA in. Shooting things like Garcia dot drills, the G5/34 seems to cycle better.

Bryan W
03-01-2018, 12:59 AM
I put a Vanek Gen 5 trigger in the first G5/34 I got, and then took it out. I am running everything stock, except for a 5.0 Wolf striker spring. The trigger has grown on me.

I had a lighter recoil spring in my Gen 4/34, and ended up with light strikes when the combination of the lighter spring, 140mm mags and some thumb pressure on the slide, kept the slide slightly out of battery. I actually dig the recoil impulse of the G5/34 and plan to leave the stock RSA in. Shooting things like Garcia dot drills, the G5/34 seems to cycle better.

Good points for consideration. On some level, thats why i haven't messed with the trigger parts yet. I want to run it "as is" for a bit to test it out. I've really enjoyed shooting my other Gen 5's in stock form, the 19X especially.

secondstoryguy
03-01-2018, 08:55 AM
The trigger in my new blue-box Gen 5 34 with the factory 4.5lb minus connector is wonderful. Smooth with an extremely clean break. I have sights on order and will post after I shoot it.

Sootnsmoke
03-01-2018, 08:05 PM
You can always split the difference and order a .230 front too. But in all honesty, for anything USPSA related you wont miss a beat with either one of those fronts. You wont see more than about 1.5" difference in POI worse case, IMO. Both will work just fine.

Triggers - I haven't done anything to mine yet, but when I do it will probably the Taran Tactical spring/connector kit, plus a new guiderod to run a lighter recoil spring. That's it pretty much.Bryan and GJM -
I called Dawson today and they are honoring the perfect impact policy when sights for the Gen5 G34 are ordered with the .235 front site. Just like the Gen5 G17, they are high shooters. So, that is the height front I'm going with. However, I did not know the MOS rear sight was offered in either a .125 or .135 rear notch. Now I'm debating between a .135 rear/.115 front or a .125 rear/.105 front. Which combo of rear notch site width and front sight width did you go with?

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GJM
03-01-2018, 08:22 PM
Bryan and GJM -
I called Dawson today and they are honoring the perfect impact policy when sights for the Gen5 G34 are ordered with the .235 front site. Just like the Gen5 G17, they are high shooters. So, that is the height front I'm going with. However, I did not know the MOS rear sight was offered in either a .125 or .135 rear notch. Now I'm debating between a .135 rear/.115 front or a .125 rear/.105 front. Which combo of rear notch site width and front sight width did you go with?

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.125, .105

Matt O
03-01-2018, 08:47 PM
Bryan and GJM -
I called Dawson today and they are honoring the perfect impact policy when sights for the Gen5 G34 are ordered with the .235 front site. Just like the Gen5 G17, they are high shooters. So, that is the height front I'm going with. However, I did not know the MOS rear sight was offered in either a .125 or .135 rear notch. Now I'm debating between a .135 rear/.115 front or a .125 rear/.105 front. Which combo of rear notch site width and front sight width did you go with?

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Went with .135, .115. The .235 front is top of blade at 25 yards with 147 gr and about 1-1.5" low with 124.

Gio
03-01-2018, 10:16 PM
Bryan and GJM -
I called Dawson today and they are honoring the perfect impact policy when sights for the Gen5 G34 are ordered with the .235 front site. Just like the Gen5 G17, they are high shooters. So, that is the height front I'm going with. However, I did not know the MOS rear sight was offered in either a .125 or .135 rear notch. Now I'm debating between a .135 rear/.115 front or a .125 rear/.105 front. Which combo of rear notch site width and front sight width did you go with?

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I go .125/.115 on all my competition guns. While a lot of it is personal preference (i.e. how young your eyes are and how well you can pick up the front through a narrow notch), if you don't have vision problems, I don't see a downside to the .125" rear, but I've seen a lot of downside to going wider (.140-.150) on plates and mini poppers out to 25-40 yds. I also find with a narrow notch I can target focus out to about 25-30 yds and still shoot 92-95% of the points in most matches.

Bryan W
03-01-2018, 10:41 PM
Bryan and GJM -
I called Dawson today and they are honoring the perfect impact policy when sights for the Gen5 G34 are ordered with the .235 front site. Just like the Gen5 G17, they are high shooters. So, that is the height front I'm going with. However, I did not know the MOS rear sight was offered in either a .125 or .135 rear notch. Now I'm debating between a .135 rear/.115 front or a .125 rear/.105 front. Which combo of rear notch site width and front sight width did you go with?

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I actually went a .135 rear / .105 front. I run .115 wide fronts with rear notches at .150 wide.

Sootnsmoke
03-02-2018, 07:32 AM
I actually went a .135 rear / .105 front. I run .115 wide fronts with rear notches at .150 wide.I run the same Dawson .135 rear and .105 front on my G23. I like the set up on that gun. However, with the long slide G34, I am concerned there will be too much light bar gap and accuracy may suffer as a result. Not sure there. With a .115 front, the light bars should match close to my G23. Recently I spoke to someone at Dawson and he mentioned a calculator that determines how much of the rear notch width is filled by the front sight based on sight radius. I need to find that tool

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MGW
03-15-2018, 07:31 AM
GJM and others. I know this topic has come up in the past but I want to quickly revisit it. Are you seeing any appreciable differences in performance between the Gen 5 34 and Gen 5 17? Longer range accuracy, recoil, sight tracking, and transitions are all interesting data points to me. I had a Gen 4 34 that I put a lot of rounds through but honestly didn't measure enough difference between it and my Gen 5 17's.

GJM
03-15-2018, 08:40 AM
GJM and others. I know this topic has come up in the past but I want to quickly revisit it. Are you seeing any appreciable differences in performance between the Gen 5 34 and Gen 5 17? Longer range accuracy, recoil, sight tracking, and transitions are all interesting data points to me. I had a Gen 4 34 that I put a lot of rounds through but honestly didn't measure enough difference between it and my Gen 5 17's.

I have not tried to benchmark the G5/17 to 34. Have done G4/34 to G5/34 and prefer G5.

secondstoryguy
03-15-2018, 09:21 AM
Not GJM but I’ve run both a 17 and 34 for years. For the most part I’m about even when using both the 17 and 34. I just like the way the 34s longer sight radius points and indexes especially when running a WML. I feel more consistent with it.

As a side note I bought a second G5 34 as a backup to my first. It shoots just as well as my primary. I’m really liking these Gen 5s!

MGW
03-15-2018, 10:54 AM
I have not tried to benchmark the G5/17 to 34. Have done G4/34 to G5/34 and prefer G5.

If you get a chance my enquiring mind wants to know. I'm trying to rationalize a 34.5 for games 19x for carry setup. But the actual rational side of my brain tells me that multiple 17.5's is good enough.

Whiskey_Bravo
03-15-2018, 08:39 PM
Rationality has no home here.

34.5 and a 19X be the sexier combo. 19X for carry and a 34.5 as a dedicated WML/game gun.

Blackbag
04-20-2018, 08:03 PM
I have not tried to benchmark the G5/17 to 34. Have done G4/34 to G5/34 and prefer G5.

GJM (or others that own both), did you ever compare the performance of the G5/17 and the G5/34? After experimenting with several AIWB holsters, I prefer the Glock 34 sized holster for carry. With that being said, I need to choose between the Gen 5 17 and the Gen 5 34. Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks

John

GJM
04-20-2018, 10:10 PM
GJM (or others that own both), did you ever compare the performance of the G5/17 and the G5/34? After experimenting with several AIWB holsters, I prefer the Glock 34 sized holster for carry. With that being said, I need to choose between the Gen 5 17 and the Gen 5 34. Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks

John

Sorry, I did not do that comparison.

Blackbag
04-20-2018, 11:20 PM
No problem, thanks for the reply.

deuce9166
05-23-2018, 06:32 PM
I just bought a 34.5 today. Won’t be able to pick it up until next week. I was really impressed with the trigger. Is it a regular - connector or are the ones in gen 5’s different?

JBP55
05-23-2018, 06:52 PM
I just bought a 34.5 today. Won’t be able to pick it up until next week. I was really impressed with the trigger. Is it a regular - connector or are the ones in gen 5’s different?

The Gen 4 and Gen 5 Glocks use the same connectors.

pew_pew
05-25-2018, 06:32 AM
I’d like to get a gen 5 34 but I’ve been waiting for a non-MOS. May have to just get a 17.

navyman8903
05-25-2018, 07:57 AM
I’d like to get a gen 5 34 but I’ve been waiting for a non-MOS. May have to just get a 17.

Same same. I'm pretty upset about it, because I really like the G5 34 I got to handle. I love my G4 34 a lot, but a Non-MOS variant of the G5 would be something I'd buy in a heartbeat.

navyman8903
05-25-2018, 07:59 AM
bad internet double tap.

HeavyDuty
05-25-2018, 08:00 AM
Same same. I'm pretty upset about it, because I really like the G5 34 I got to handle. I love my G4 34 a lot, but a Non-MOS variant of the G5 would be something I'd buy in a heartbeat.

Here, too - in my case, I don’t think I’d replace my 34.4, but a 35.5 non-MOS would be more than enough to get me to open my wallet.

JodyH
05-25-2018, 08:20 AM
Rationality has no home here.

34.5 and a 19X be the sexier combo. 19X for carry and a 34.5 as a dedicated WML/game gun.
I went a different direction.
19X and a 26.5 (or 43) is the Glock hotness.
I find the 19X to recoil flatter and transition faster than the 17 or especially the 34.
The 34 has always felt like a pump shotgun to me, too much slide *clunk*clunk*.

Larry Sellers
05-25-2018, 09:09 AM
I’ve got a 34.5 and I agree with the clunk sentiment. It’s a blast to shoot especially with the 13# recoil spring and jager guide rod.

#gamerlife


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Dismas316
11-25-2018, 05:30 PM
Been reading this with interest. Has anyone either changed their mind or want to add to this? I’m seriously considering the 34.5 MOS for competition. Been running the 19x and really like it, but I thinking about stepping up to the 34. Also may consider the 17 but leaning more towards the 34. Found a range that has a rental that I hope to shot it this week. Feel free to add comments or suggestions.

rayrevolver
07-23-2019, 08:54 AM
Thread bump!

I am late to the Gen 5 game but have a used G34 G5 MOS incoming. I didn't want the MOS but its whats available right now. I had put pistol shooting on the back burner but plan to spool up, to include IDPA/USPSA again.

With respect to Glock sights I found the Warren Tacticals were my favorite on my carry G26, followed by the Trijicon HDs which I had on a gaming G34.

What is the next best thing for a U-Notch rear, MOS sized, and a single lamp? Does this exist?

The pistol incoming has Haley 13 sights installed. I will shoot them but I have a feeling the blade/notch being the same width will vex me. I will give it the college try but assume they will be removed/sold.

Warren Tactical - No MOS rear sights

Trijicon - has MOS specific rear and also a thinner front post HD XR model

Ameriglo - They have MOS specific sights. They also have MOS Agent/Bold not on the websight. I called and asked about the Agent with a U Notch and its "not available commercially" for some reason. These were noted on GlockTalk as 855, 865, 875, 885. They do have the GL-875R for sale, which I think is the Bold square notch.

10-8 - MOS rear, all black

Dawson - MOS rears

Anything else I should look into? I have some spare fronts laying around, a Wilson 245, Warren FO 215, and a 10-8 rear/Warren I can mess around with. I am looking forward to getting some rounds down range shortly.

wtturn
07-23-2019, 10:32 AM
Ray:

I use the Dawson Gen 5 MOS sights, plain black rear, F/O front.

There's not much better for gaming purposes.

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Steve m
07-23-2019, 02:09 PM
what sights are y'all running on your gen5 34. I just picked one up, I have a set of Dawson Non-Cowitness MOS sights that i planned on putting on. .205t x .105w. I shoot generic 115grn range ammo.

rayrevolver
08-02-2019, 09:19 AM
Ray:

I use the Dawson Gen 5 MOS sights, plain black rear, F/O front.

There's not much better for gaming purposes.

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I think I am stuck on the idea I need a lamp for the rear, even if my primary purpose is for games.


what sights are y'all running on your gen5 34. I just picked one up, I have a set of Dawson Non-Cowitness MOS sights that i planned on putting on. .205t x .105w. I shoot generic 115grn range ammo.

G34 is in hand. As I suspected the Haley 13 sights just don't blow my skirt up doing dry fire practice. I am going to shoot this weekend and see if I change my mind.

I did order an Ameriglo Agent Glock MOS Rear. They are not online with the sight yet so you need to call and ask. GL-865R is the U-Notch (0.165) and 2 dot NS. $60+10 shipped. I will try it with the Haley front (.125) and adjust from there.

rayrevolver
08-04-2019, 03:29 PM
Quick range session today with the new-to-me G34 G5 (seller said it was 300-400 rounds). I realize these Gen 5s are old news now, but I am slowly catching up.

Decided my first 5 rounds would be carry ammo, Win Ranger RA9T (147gr). I chose 15 yards since I think my talent runs out past that range. I rested the bottom of the trigger guard on a block of wood just for these first 5 rounds.

It was high but seemed like a decent group. POA was the bull. The numbers say: Max 1.579" 9.55 moa, ATC 0.767" 4.400moa, Width 1.579", Height 1.489", target distance 50ft.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48456755966_3c54ff0f3d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gPXxkL)

I shot another 7 rounds for a total of 12. These 7 were offhand at 15 yards.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48456989532_86a91064ec_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gPYJLL)

These were 10yards, using a Remington UMC 115gr. I was aiming at that bottom point. So again these are high.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48456988897_4534e10494_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gPYJzP)

I am going to pair the Ameriglo rear with my only taller front, a Wilson .245 and see how it shoots.